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| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
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| 0:02 | How does one even make a decision to like run for president? | 怎样才能决定竞选总统? |
| 0:06 | I have no experience in this process. | 我在这个过程中没有经验。 |
| 0:08 | So I'm | ┮и琌 |
| 0:09 | I'm going through it. | 我将经历它。 |
| 0:10 | I | 一、导 言 |
| 0:14 | wasn't even gonna bring up French laundry, but like | 连法国的洗衣店都没有 但是... |
| 0:17 | You you know, I just bone-headed decision just stupid decision. | 你知道,我只是 骨头决定 只是愚蠢的决定。 |
| 0:21 | I got to be careful saying this but well | 我得小心地说这个,但很好 |
| 0:24 | My party kind of humorless sometimes she left a voice message saying my last day on earth is next Thursday | 我的派对有点不幽默 有时她留了个语音留言 说我在地球上的最后一天是下周四 |
| 0:30 | If you want to come by and see me and I'll never forget what an asshole I felt like because she did that | 如果你想来见我 我永远也不会忘记一个混蛋的感受 因为她这么做了 |
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| 1 | How does one even make a decision to like run for president? | 怎样才能决定竞选总统? |
| 2 | I have no experience in this process. | 我在这个过程中没有经验。 |
| 3 | So I'm | ┮и琌 |
| 4 | I'm going through it. | 我将经历它。 |
| 5 | I | 一、导 言 |
| 6 | wasn't even gonna bring up French laundry, but like | 连法国的洗衣店都没有 但是... |
| 7 | You you know, I just bone-headed decision just stupid decision. | 你知道,我只是 骨头决定 只是愚蠢的决定。 |
| 8 | I got to be careful saying this but well | 我得小心地说这个,但很好 |
| 9 | My party kind of humorless sometimes she left a voice message saying my last day on earth is next Thursday | 我的派对有点不幽默 有时她留了个语音留言 说我在地球上的最后一天是下周四 |
| 10 | If you want to come by and see me and I'll never forget what an asshole I felt like because she did that | 如果你想来见我 我永远也不会忘记一个混蛋的感受 因为她这么做了 |
| 11 | It's just complete bullshit weaponization | 简直是一团糟 |
| 12 | Culture and grievance. | 文化和冤情。 |
| 13 | It's as all this time. | 今时如是. |
| 14 | You still talk to her ambassador Guilfoyle | 你还跟她的吉福尔大使说话 |
| 15 | I don't know that I can call her that you have to by law | 我不知道,我可以叫她 你必须通过法律 |
| 16 | Hmm. | 是吗? |
| 17 | Nice. | 不错 |
| 18 | Let's cut some more. | 让我们再切一些。 |
| 19 | Yeah, haha. | 对,哈哈。 |
| 20 | See how addictive he is | 看他有多上瘾 |
| 21 | nice | 不错 |
| 22 | For a while now. | 暂时了 |
| 23 | I have wanted to interview people in | 我想采访大家 |
| 24 | Longer-form interviews about more than just the news of day | 更长时间的采访 不只是一天的消息 |
| 25 | But also who they are and how they became who they became their childhoods their careers | 但是他们是谁,他们是如何成为 他们的童年,他们的事业 |
| 26 | And we are kicking this off with Democratic governor of California Gavin Newsom who might be running for president in 2028 | 我们正和加州民主党州长Gavin Newsom一起踢球 他可能在2028年竞选总统 |
| 27 | We have also extended invitations to Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Vice President JD Vance | 我们还向马科·鲁比奥国务卿和万斯副总统发出邀请。 |
| 28 | We hope they take us up on the offer. | 我们希望他们接受我们的提议。 |
| 29 | I visited this place | 我去过这个地方 |
| 30 | Jake probably | 杰克也许 |
| 31 | 19 years ago Jen invited me to meet her parents and | 19年前Jen邀请我来见她父母 |
| 32 | nervously came out here | 紧张地跑出来 |
| 33 | onto the ranch and and | 到了牧场和 |
| 34 | Picked up the fly rod and then | 捡起飞棒然后 |
| 35 | 20 years later | 20年过去了 |
| 36 | She's still wondering where I am and we come back here every summer the first lady of California | 她还在想我在哪里 我们每年夏天都会回来 加州第一夫人 |
| 37 | Gavin Newsom的妻子Jennifer Siebel Newsom 不是Newsom的第一任妻子 | |
| 38 | That was Kim Guilfoyle who would go on to become a close ally of President Trump | 那是金·吉爾福爾 他將成為川普總統的親密盟友 |
| 39 | Even engaged to Donald Trump jr. At one point Newsom and Guilfoyle took a photograph for a 2004 profile in | 甚至和唐纳德·特朗普Jr订婚. Newsom和Guilfoyle在2004年拍摄了一张照片。 |
| 40 | Harper's Bazaar a photograph that the internet cannot seem to forget | 哈珀的集市 这张照片似乎 互联网无法忘记 |
| 41 | Were you mayor when you met Kim Guilfoyle? | 你见到金·吉福尔时是市长吗 |
| 42 | No, we were we campaigned. | 不,我们是在竞选。 |
| 43 | I was supervisor | 我是主管 |
| 44 | Yeah, I was a district supervisor district two and she was a district attorney and | 是啊,我是一个地区监督 区2,她是一名地区检察官和 |
| 45 | Was down in LA when we first met you still talk to her | 我们第一次见面的时候在洛杉矶 你还跟她说话 |
| 46 | Kimberly not in a long time, but you know over the years periodically, it's been totally amicable, which has been great | 在很长的一段时间里 金伯利,但你知道 这些年来,它一直 完全友好,这是伟大的 |
| 47 | I think she's ambassador to Greece now, right? | 我想她现在是驻希腊大使了 对吧? |
| 48 | He is ambassador. | 他是大使。 |
| 49 | We ambassador Guilfoyle me | 我们吉福尔大使 |
| 50 | I don't know that I can call her that you have to by law. | 我不知道我可以叫她 你必须要通过法律。 |
| 51 | You know what? | 你知道吗? |
| 52 | I thought was funny in your book was | 我本以为你的书里很有趣 |
| 53 | you explained | 你解释 |
| 54 | that | 那个 |
| 55 | Stupid photo. | 愚蠢的照片。 。 。 |
| 56 | Oh my god, man. | 哦,我的上帝,伙计。 |
| 57 | I'm glad you explained it. | 我很高兴你能解释 |
| 58 | Oh god | 天呐 |
| 59 | What an idiot that was not supposed to happen. | 真是个不该发生的白痴 |
| 60 | It happened | 发生了 |
| 61 | at a lazy moment and then | 在一个懒惰的时刻 然后 |
| 62 | The mock the mocking began and it was hundred percent legit | 嘲讽开始 100%合法 |
| 63 | Cringeworthy that photo is hardly the only regret Newsom has from that era in 2005 | 这张照片不是唯一遗憾。 |
| 64 | He had a relationship with a married City Hall staffer. | 他与已婚的市政厅工作人员有关系. |
| 65 | He was single at the time. | 当时他单身. |
| 66 | I am | 对 |
| 67 | deeply sorry and | 深为遗憾 |
| 68 | Am accountable for what has occurred in its memoir. | 我对其回忆录中发生的事情负责。 |
| 69 | He describes it as the stupidest and briefest of affairs | 他形容这是最蠢最简短的事情 |
| 70 | She has since offered a different account in Vanity Fair saying the relationship continued on and off for months | 她后来在"名利场"上提供了另一个说法 说两人的关系持续了好几个月 |
| 71 | She wrote something for Vanity Fair. | 她为"名利场"写了点东西 |
| 72 | Oh, yeah. | 对 |
| 73 | Yeah, I didn't I didn't see that you didn't read it | 是啊,我没有看到 你没有读它 |
| 74 | So no, I know I was actually at it. | 所以,不,我知道我其实在它。 |
| 75 | I was literally with the kids | 我跟孩子们在一起 |
| 76 | Vacation last week, so I did not see it her her story is like | 上周休假,所以我没有看到 她的故事就像 |
| 77 | She was taking a lot of drugs and drinking a lot. | 她嗑了很多药,喝了很多 |
| 78 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 79 | No look | 没有看 |
| 80 | I mean I got nothing more to stay on it | 我的意思是,我没有什么可留在它 |
| 81 | I wrote about in the book briefly and the whole thing was brief and you know, and | 我在书中简短地写了一下 整件事很简短 |
| 82 | it | 这个 |
| 83 | it certainly defined a | 它肯定定义了一个 |
| 84 | lot of | 许多 |
| 85 | Those years as mayor because I you know, I had to confront the voters up with on that, you know | 那些年作为市长,因为你知道, 我不得不面对 选民对此,你知道 |
| 86 | I got an election right after all that came out and but that wasn't important. | 这一切之后,我得到了一个选举权利 出来,但这不重要。 |
| 87 | It was confronting | 它正在面对 |
| 88 | Myself and and that was what and what was that what was the thing about yourself get your shit together, you know, you're divorced | 我个人,这就是什么,这是什么 东西关于你自己 得到你的东西在一起,你知道,你离婚了 |
| 89 | Your mom dies your mayor. | 你妈妈死了 你的市长。 |
| 90 | You're relatively young. | 你比较年轻。 |
| 91 | I was growing up in public, you know | 我在公共场合长大,你知道的 |
| 92 | and that's the thing you start so young in this racket and | 这就是你开始这么年轻 在这场吵闹, |
| 93 | Mistakes that you make may make in private. | 你可能私下犯的错误 |
| 94 | You're not you don't have that luxury | 你没有那么奢侈 |
| 95 | I didn't appreciate that I was mayor and you have to act like the mayor and you know, you can't just be out late | 我并不欣赏我当市长 你得表现得像市长 你知道 你不能迟到 |
| 96 | You know if you're dating someone, you know, you're gonna be judged on that I didn't I was growing up | 你知道,如果你约会的人, 你知道,你会被 判断,我不是在长大 |
| 97 | I just didn't understand all that. | 我只是不明白这些 |
| 98 | I don't think there's anything that grows you up more than having a kid. | 我觉得没有什么比生孩子更能让你成长的了 |
| 99 | Amen | 阿门 |
| 100 | I mean that the great thing is, you know, we I met Jen | 我的意思是,伟大的事情是, 你知道,我们遇到了仁 |
| 101 | Years after all that stuff happened or a good year after all that stuff. | 这么多年之后 事情发生了 或一个好年 这么多。 |
| 102 | So when we you know got engaged | 所以,当我们知道 订婚 |
| 103 | This was gonna be it. | 本来是的 |
| 104 | This was the right decision and I made sure and so when we had the kid | 这是正确的决定,我确保了 所以当我们有孩子 |
| 105 | Reinforced what you just said? | 强化你刚才说的话? |
| 106 | I mean it was like magic. | 我的意思是,这就像魔法。 |
| 107 | Come on. | 来吧。 |
| 108 | This is nice and muddy. | 这是很好的和泥。 |
| 109 | It's fantastic. | 这太棒了。 |
| 110 | Wait, it's not heated | 等等,没有加热 |
| 111 | Newsom ran for governor for many reasons, but the biggest challenge he faced was the kovat epidemic | Newsom竞选州长有很多原因 但他面临的最大挑战就是科瓦特疫情 |
| 112 | There needs to be like a 9-eleven commission on covers. | 需要像一个9 -even佣金的封面。 |
| 113 | Yeah, you know what we did right what we did wrong | 是啊,你知道我们做了什么 我们做了错 |
| 114 | Yeah, and look everyone's a genius in hindsight. | 是啊,看看每个人都是一个天才 在后视。 |
| 115 | So, you know coulda woulda well, what would you do differently? | 那么,你知道会好, 你会怎么做不同? |
| 116 | I had a whole chapter just about Purell. | 我有一整章关于普雷尔。 |
| 117 | We were running around | 我们到处跑 |
| 118 | Doing price gouging legislation against Purell and everyone was thinking it was a Purell based crisis | 对普雷尔进行价格高涨的立法 每个人都认为这是普雷尔危机 |
| 119 | I mean, you know, we were scrubbing their groceries. | 我的意思是,你知道, 我们擦他们的杂货。 |
| 120 | Yeah, I mean DeSantis was closing down his beaches before we closed ours | 是啊,我的意思是德桑蒂斯关闭他的海滩 在我们关闭我们的海滩之前 |
| 121 | I mean ideally we closed beaches was insane in hindsight | 我的意思是,理想的是我们关闭的海滩 在事后看是疯了 |
| 122 | Obviously the schools taking too long a lot of districts were open, but the big ones weren't | 显然,学校花了太长时间 很多地区是开放的, 但大的不是 |
| 123 | LA refused and I regret that | 洛杉矶拒绝了 我很遗憾 |
| 124 | Obviously, I remember just like pushing | 很明显,我记得 就像推 |
| 125 | People experts like when can we open the schools? | 我们什么时候能开学? |
| 126 | Why are restaurants open but schools aren't? | 为什么餐厅开着,但学校不开? |
| 127 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 128 | Yeah, and | 对,还有 |
| 129 | That and this is in a much smaller version what you were no doubt going through which is | 你所经历的无疑是 |
| 130 | Teachers were like going online and accusing me of wanting to kill them. | 老师喜欢上线 指责我想要杀死他们。 |
| 131 | Everybody was fearful | 每个人都害怕 |
| 132 | I remember it was you're about to reopen them and then there's a new wave, right? | 我记得你正要重新打开它们 然后是新浪 对吧? |
| 133 | All of a sudden there's a new variant that comes out you infamously attended that dinner all while you were telling Californians | 突然间,有一个新的变体 出来你臭名昭著地参加了晚餐 当你告诉加州人 |
| 134 | That they should be staying at home. | 他们应该呆在家里 |
| 135 | What on earth were you thinking? | 你到底在想什麽? |
| 136 | I already gave you shit for French Laundry. | 我已经给了你狗屎法国洗衣店。 |
| 137 | That was a long time ago myself shit. | 那是很久以前了,我自己的狗屎。 |
| 138 | I wasn't even gonna bring up French Laundry, but like | 我甚至没有打算 提出法国洗衣,但喜欢 |
| 139 | You you know, I just boneheaded decision just stupid decision. | 你知道,我只是头痛的决定 只是愚蠢的决定。 |
| 140 | I just dialing it in we were exhausted | 我只是把它拨到我们累坏了 |
| 141 | Friends birthday. | 朋友们的生日。 |
| 142 | It was a restaurant that was open the night before as a restaurant was open the night after | 那是家前天晚上开的餐厅 后天晚上开的 |
| 143 | and it was just against the spirit of the rules that I was promoting and | 它只是违背精神 规则,我宣传 |
| 144 | And you know, I went there I had a mask on when I walked in walked out | 你知道,我去那里,我有一个面具 当我走进来走出去 |
| 145 | But not when I was eating and you know, I was sitting there which in and of itself is curious promoting masks on between bites | 但我不是在吃东西的时候,我坐在那 它本身就很好奇地在咬人之间推广口罩 |
| 146 | Come on, but I there was a bunch of people at the table and more than what I was promoting and so it was | 得了,但我桌上有一群人 比我宣传的还要多,所以... |
| 147 | completely legit | 完全合法 |
| 148 | Condemnation you're facing a recall effort in part because of your handling of the pandemic. | 谴责你面临召回努力 部分原因是你处理这个流行病 |
| 149 | I got recalled | 我被唤醒了 |
| 150 | I'm almost lost. | 我差点迷路了 |
| 151 | Yeah, talk about humility. | 是啊,谈谦卑。 |
| 152 | Come on | 来吧 |
| 153 | What was the vote? | 投票结果如何? |
| 154 | We won by a good margin, but you know the time I didn't know what was gonna happen | 我们赢了一个不错的比分,但你知道当时我不知道会发生什么 |
| 155 | It was there were some public polls that had it within a margin of error | 有一些民意调查显示它有误 |
| 156 | My politics changed after that back to this sort of incumbency and surgery | 之后我的政治变了 回到了这种在职和手术 |
| 157 | Insurrectionist mindset you're just not the same after that. | 叛乱分子的心态 之后你就不一样了 |
| 158 | You're still standing | 你还站着呢 |
| 159 | I'm still standing all the all the shit they keep throwing and still standing and you know now I got | 我仍然站在所有狗屎 他们不断扔 仍然站着,你知道我现在有 |
| 160 | Trump on the criminal stuff and you know, they can't take you out the other way | 特朗普关于犯罪的东西,你知道, 他们不能带你出去的另一条路 |
| 161 | They'll try to take you out that way in recent days federal agents have knocked on the doors of family friends and former employees | 联邦探员最近几天 敲了家人朋友和前员工的门 |
| 162 | Not because they found a crime because they're simply trying to find one | 不是因为他们发现犯罪 因为他们只是想找到一个 |
| 163 | Donald Trump is simply the most corrupt | 唐纳德·特朗普就是最腐败的 |
| 164 | President in American history this summer the Justice Department launched an investigation into Newsom and his wife that Newsom says is a political witch-hunt | 美国历史上的总统 今年夏天 司法部对Newsom 和他的妻子展开调查 Newsom说这是政治女巫猎杀 |
| 165 | Well, that's what Trump thinks about him | 这就是特朗普对他的看法 |
| 166 | Well, exactly Trump thinks that that's what they've been doing him for years. | 特朗普认为那是他们多年来一直对他做的事 |
| 167 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 168 | Yeah, and it's true in many respects | 是的,在许多方面都是这样 |
| 169 | Well, you think the some of those attorney general case or the New York Manhattan case? | 你觉得那些总检察官的案子 还是纽约曼哈顿的案子? |
| 170 | I thought some of it, you know, I wasn't watching MS every night | 我想了一些,你知道, 我并不是每晚看MS |
| 171 | Cheering that stuff on I was like this seems to me like this is getting a little too much | 欢呼那些东西,我就像这样 在我看来,这有点太过分了 |
| 172 | I went to the court one of the days that Stormy Daniels testified | 我上法庭 一天,斯托米丹尼尔斯作证 |
| 173 | I was in Manhattan and I went to the I went there and | 我当时在曼哈顿 我去了那里 |
| 174 | I mean, I know I'm not saying that he didn't yeah commit crimes mean obviously it was a | 我的意思是,我知道我不是说 他没有做错事 意味着很明显这是一个 |
| 175 | Novel way to prosecute by saying he committed a misdemeanor in service of another misdemeanor and that makes it a felony | 新颖的起诉方式是说他在为另一个轻罪服务时犯有轻罪,因此是重罪 |
| 176 | I'm not saying he's innocent, but I know right it felt very small. | 我不是说他是无辜的 但我知道这感觉很渺小 |
| 177 | Look, I understand from his perspective | 你看,我从他的角度理解 |
| 178 | how he views all this and | 他如何看待这一切和 |
| 179 | Giving everybody a taste of their own medicine and I say this again and you're saying in one respect | 让大家尝尝自己的药 我再说一遍 而你却说一个方面 |
| 180 | I'm saying is one of his fiercest opponents | 我是说他是最激烈的对手之一 |
| 181 | I mean, I'm you know take no quarter with Trump and in terms of my opposition and calling him out | 我意思是,你知道不花时间 与特朗普和我的反对 和叫他出去 |
| 182 | But you know, no, you got to own those excesses | 但你知道,不,你必须拥有这些过度 |
| 183 | but it's been the whole my whole book was about owning mistakes in the past and owning up to them and | 但我的整本书都是关于 拥有过去的错误 拥有这些错误 |
| 184 | You know just constantly trying to be better and do better and be more | 你知道,只是不断尝试 更好,做更好,做更多 |
| 185 | Empathetic be more human be more gracious. | 爱心更人更仁爱. |
| 186 | I mean, that's why I did a podcast Charlie Kirk | 我的意思是,这就是为什么我做了播客 查理·柯克 |
| 187 | I mean, I got my ass kicked | 我的意思是,我得到了我的屁股踢 |
| 188 | My fellow Democrats for doing I was surprised that you did it just because I mean may he rest in peace, but he was a | 我感到惊讶的是,你这样做 只是因为我希望他安息, 但他是一个 |
| 189 | Not uncontroversial. | 非无争议. |
| 190 | Would you say no men in female sports? | 你会说没有男人 在女性运动? |
| 191 | Well, it's I think it's an issue of fairness | 我觉得这是公平的问题 |
| 192 | I completely agree with you on that the way that people talk down to vulnerable communities is an issue that I have a hard time | 我完全同意你的观点,人们对弱势社区说话的方式 是一个我很难解决的问题 |
| 193 | With as well. | 与么则也. |
| 194 | So both things I can hold in my hand | 这样我就能掌握在手中 |
| 195 | I don't hate people I disagree with and I'm fascinated by them and I admire success | 我不恨我不同意的人,我迷上他们,我崇拜成功 |
| 196 | I mean they have been successful you have to acknowledge the success of the organizing capacity of Charlie Kirk and the Democratic Party wasn't doing shit | 我的意思是,他们已经成功 你必须承认成功 组织能力 查理柯克和民主党 没有做狗屎 |
| 197 | And still hasn't on that basis and we're acting nice if we're holier than now | 现在还没有这样,我们表现的还不错,如果我们比现在更神圣 |
| 198 | I just think success leaves clues and you should learn from your opposition and | 我只是觉得成功会留下线索 你应该从你的反对中吸取教训 |
| 199 | So that's that was kind of the mindset it's been my mindset continues to be | 所以这就是一种心态 它一直是我的心态继续 |
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