密歇根州州长辩论：本森 vs 詹姆斯 | 2026.10.7
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| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:02 | Michigan is at a crossroads. | 密歇根州正处在十字路口 |
| 0:04 | After months on the campaign trail and millions spent, | 经过几个月的竞选 和数百万的花费, |
| 0:08 | two candidates go head-to-head. | 两个候选人头对头。 |
| 0:10 | Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson. | 国务卿乔斯琳·本森. |
| 0:13 | We need an old, uncompromising leader at the top from the governor's office. | 我们需要一位老的,毫不妥协的领袖 从州长办公室的高层。 |
| 0:16 | Congressman John James. | 约翰·詹姆斯议员. |
| 0:18 | We need a change. | 我们需要改变。 |
| 0:19 | We need to get back to what works. | 我们需要回到什么是可行的。 |
| 0:21 | Tonight, these candidates square off, face-to-face, showing exactly where they stand | 今晚,这些候选人 平淡无奇,面对面, 显示他们的确切地位 |
| 0:27 | on the issues that will shape Michigan's future. | 将决定密歇根的未来 |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Michigan is at a crossroads. | 密歇根州正处在十字路口 |
| 2 | After months on the campaign trail and millions spent, | 经过几个月的竞选 和数百万的花费, |
| 3 | two candidates go head-to-head. | 两个候选人头对头。 |
| 4 | Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson. | 国务卿乔斯琳·本森. |
| 5 | We need an old, uncompromising leader at the top from the governor's office. | 我们需要一位老的,毫不妥协的领袖 从州长办公室的高层。 |
| 6 | Congressman John James. | 约翰·詹姆斯议员. |
| 7 | We need a change. | 我们需要改变。 |
| 8 | We need to get back to what works. | 我们需要回到什么是可行的。 |
| 9 | Tonight, these candidates square off, face-to-face, showing exactly where they stand | 今晚,这些候选人 平淡无奇,面对面, 显示他们的确切地位 |
| 10 | on the issues that will shape Michigan's future. | 将决定密歇根的未来 |
| 11 | I wish people would quit focusing so much on data centers. | 我希望人们不再把注意力集中在数据中心上。 |
| 12 | More places to live instead of building more buildings that we don't need. | 更多的地方可以居住,而不是建造我们不需要的更多建筑. |
| 13 | How are they going to help everybody to lift up out of this fungus going around in the state? | 他们将如何帮助每个人 走出这种真菌 在州里转转? |
| 14 | The cost of everything that I have to buy and how much we're all making. | 我买的每样东西都要花多少钱 还有我们赚多少钱 |
| 15 | The challenges are clear. | 挑战显而易见。 |
| 16 | The differences are real. | 差别实相. |
| 17 | And the choice belongs to you. | 选择权属于你 |
| 18 | Live from the Wood TV studios in Grand Rapids and your local election headquarters, | 现场直播大拉皮兹的伍德电视台 和你的地方选举总部 |
| 19 | this is night one of Debate Week in Michigan, the race for governor. | 这是密歇根州辩论周的晚上 州长竞选 |
| 20 | Good evening. | 边 |
| 21 | I'm Rick Albin, your moderator for tonight's debate. | 我是瑞克·阿尔宾 今晚辩论的主持人 |
| 22 | Candidates, welcome and welcome to our viewers across the state watching here on Wood TV | 候选人们,欢迎和欢迎我们全州观众 在伍德电视台观看 |
| 23 | and our sister station, WLNS in Lansing, and partners in Detroit, Marquette, Alpina, Traverse City, and Flint. | 和我们的姐妹站,在兰辛的WLNS, 以及底特律,马奎特,阿尔皮纳,特拉弗斯城,和弗林特的伙伴。 |
| 24 | Here's a quick review of the rules. | 以下是对规则的快速回顾. |
| 25 | Each question gets a 60-second answer in an order determined by a drawing. | 每个问题得到60秒的答案,顺序由绘图决定. |
| 26 | We may give a 30-second follow-up or rebuttal. | 我们可以给出30秒钟的后续或反驳。 |
| 27 | Each candidate has a 60-second opening statement and 30-second closing statement. | 每个候选人有60秒的开幕词和30秒的闭幕词。 |
| 28 | Candidates, welcome. | 欢迎候选人 |
| 29 | It has been a long road. | 这是一个漫长的道路。 |
| 30 | You've been out there a long time. | 你在外面已经很久了 |
| 31 | And we're now less than 30 days till election day. | 现在离选举日还不到30天 |
| 32 | People are already voting. | 人们已经在投票了。 |
| 33 | And I want you to know that many of these questions you hear tonight have been inspired by our viewers | 我想让你知道,你今晚听到的很多问题 都来自我们的观众 |
| 34 | and voters across the state that sent in their suggestions. | 和整个州的选民 寄来他们的建议。 |
| 35 | We thank them for that. | 我们感谢他们这样做。 |
| 36 | We want to get started with the first things first. | 我们想先从头开始 |
| 37 | And those are the opening statements. | 这些是开幕词。 |
| 38 | Congressman James, you won that drawing. | 詹姆斯议员,你赢了画。 |
| 39 | You will go first for 60 seconds. | 你们先走60秒 |
| 40 | Well, thank you, Rick. | 谢谢你 瑞克 |
| 41 | I hate politics, but I love Michigan. | 我讨厌政治 但我爱密歇根州 |
| 42 | And it breaks my heart that so many people are hurting in Michigan or leaving to find opportunity. | 密歇根州这么多人受伤 或离开寻找机会 让我心碎 |
| 43 | Many Democrats want to blame Trump, but Michigan is 42nd in infrastructure, | 许多民主党人想要指责特朗普,但密歇根州在基础设施方面排名第42位, |
| 44 | 43rd in economy, 45th in education, 46th overall. | 经济第43位,教育第45位,总排名第46位. |
| 45 | That means 90% of this country is doing better than us, and we all have the same president. | 这意味着这个国家90%的人比我们做得更好,我们都有同样的总统. |
| 46 | Lansing is failing us, and it's going to not be fixed by somebody | 兰星让我们失望了,它不会被别人修好 |
| 47 | who's been a part of leadership in Lansing for the past eight years. | 过去八年中,他在兰辛担任领导职务. |
| 48 | Now, she's going to use debunked lies to try to manipulate you into believing, not believing your own eyes. | 现在,她会利用被揭穿的谎言 试图操纵你相信,而不是相信你自己的眼睛。 |
| 49 | But right now, your own eyes are telling you that our costs are up, our wages are down, and Lansing is corrupt. | 但是现在,你自己的眼睛告诉你,我们的代价是高的,我们的工资是低的,兰辛腐败了. |
| 50 | We need a real, tested leader who's going to be focused on you, | 我们需要一个真正的,经过考验的领袖 他将专注于你, |
| 51 | who has the skills to bring costs down, to bring your wages up, and to make sure that we end corruption in Lansing. | 他们有能力降低成本,提高工资,确保我们在兰辛结束腐败。 |
| 52 | I'm a combat vet and business leader who knows what it takes to put politics behind us and people first. | 我是一个战斗兽医 和企业领袖 谁知道需要什么 将政治摆在我们和人们的首位。 |
| 53 | Secretary Benson, you have 60 seconds. | 本森部长,你还有60秒 |
| 54 | I'm Jocelyn Benson, and the three pillars of our campaign are driving down costs, increasing our wages, and ending corruption. | 我是Jocelyn Benson 我们竞选的三大支柱 正在降低成本 增加工资 结束腐败 |
| 55 | Because as governor, I will fight for you. | 因为作为州长 我会为你而战 |
| 56 | I will fight for the veteran who deserves access to the health care benefits they've earned, | 我会为那些应该得到 医疗福利的老兵而战 |
| 57 | for the teachers who deserve better pay and more respect, for our kids whose future depends on what we do today. | 对于教师,他们应该得到更好的报酬和更多的尊重, 对于我们的孩子,他们的未来取决于我们今天做什么。 |
| 58 | I know how important that is as a mom, as the wife of a combat veteran, | 我知道作为一名母亲 作为一名老战士的妻子 |
| 59 | and as the daughter of special education teachers who taught me that the power of the people must always be greater than the people in power. | 并且作为特殊教育教师的女儿,教我,人民的力量必须永远大于当权者. |
| 60 | My opponent is only in this for himself. | 我的对手只是为了他自己 |
| 61 | In just four years in Congress, he's become a multimillionaire trading stocks in companies he's supposed to regulate, | 在国会短短四年的时间里, 他变成了一个百万富翁 交易股票 在他应该监管的公司, |
| 62 | while raising our health care premiums, supporting a reckless war in Iran that's driven up gas prices and backing Trump's tariffs, | 在提高医疗保费的同时 支持伊朗的鲁莽战争 推动天然气价格上涨 支持特朗普的关税 |
| 63 | that's raised costs on Michiganders more than any other state. | 这给密歇根州带来的成本比其他州都高 |
| 64 | He's not serving the people of Michigan. | 他不为密歇根州人民服务. |
| 65 | He's profiting off of you. | 他从你身上获利 |
| 66 | But I want you to know that even if it means sheltering in my home, protecting my son, | 但我想让你知道 即使这意味着躲在我家 保护我儿子 |
| 67 | while people with guns protest on my front lawn because of lies my opponent has spread, I will always fight for you. | 虽然有人持枪抗议我的前草坪 因为谎言 我的对手已经蔓延, 我会永远为你而战。 |
| 68 | I've done that as Secretary of State, and I'm ready to do it as governor. | 历任枢密使, ready骑大将军, ready骑大将军. |
| 69 | Thank you both. | 谢谢你们 |
| 70 | Let's get to our first question now. | 今先问. |
| 71 | And this topic tonight is about the trade battle between Canada and the United States | 今晚的话题是加拿大和美国的贸易战 |
| 72 | and the impact specifically on Michigan's economy. | 以及对密歇根州经济的影响 |
| 73 | Secretary Benson, you have called the current tariffs a John James tax on Michigan | 本森部长,你把目前的关税 称为约翰・詹姆斯对密歇根的税 |
| 74 | and said that as governor you'll try to reduce the impact. | 并说,作为州长 你会尝试减少影响。 |
| 75 | But those tariffs are done federally in Washington, not by Lansing. | 但是,这些关税是在华盛顿的联邦范围,而不是由兰辛完成的. |
| 76 | So name one specific thing you could do as governor that could reduce federal tariffs, and you have 60 seconds. | 说说能降低联邦关税的州长 具体的事情,你还有60秒 |
| 77 | Well, yes, let me be very clear. | 嗯,是的,让我说清楚。 |
| 78 | These reckless tariffs have been supported by my opponent, | 这些鲁莽的关税得到了我的对手的支持, |
| 79 | and that's why we call them the John James tax, because they are costing Michigan $5,600 each household state in the nation. | 这就是为什么我们称他们为约翰・詹姆斯税, 因为他们花费密歇根5600美元 每个家庭州在全国。 |
| 80 | And anyone who's supposed to go to Washington to fight for us should be fighting to drive down those tariffs, | 任何应该去华盛顿为我们而战的人 都应该为降低关税而战 |
| 81 | push back on those tariffs, but he has not. | 推回那些关税,但他没有。 |
| 82 | But I have a plan. | 但我有个计划 |
| 83 | On day one in office, I will call Canada and negotiate a contract between Michigan and Canada | 上任的第一天,我会打电话给加拿大 商谈密歇根和加拿大之间的合同 |
| 84 | to eliminate the tariffs and the costs in Michigan. | 取消密歇根州的关税和成本。 |
| 85 | This is called a subnational agreement. | 这被称为国家以下一级的协议。 |
| 86 | It will enable us to ensure goods going between Michigan and Canada and back and forth | 这将使我们能够确保货物在密歇根和加拿大之间以及前后 |
| 87 | are protected from these tariffs from the John James tax that has driven up costs and cost Michiganders jobs. | 免受约翰·詹姆斯税的这些关税的制约,这些税提高了密歇根人的工作成本和成本。 |
| 88 | Can I tell you, I was in Detroit the other day talking to a business owner, and he pointed to a swath of land | 我可以告诉你,我前几天在底特律 和一个商人谈话, 他指着一块土地 |
| 89 | and said, if but for these tariffs, I would have money to expand jobs, expand my company, | 并说,如果没有这些关税, 我会有钱扩大工作, 扩大我的公司, |
| 90 | but because I have to pay these tariffs, I cannot. | 但因为我必须付这些关税,我不能。 |
| 91 | That's why these tariffs are costing us jobs, costing us money, | 这就是为什么这些关税 花费我们的工作, 花费我们的钱, |
| 92 | and I have a plan to ensure we eliminate them here in Michigan. | 我有一个计划在密歇根州消灭他们 |
| 93 | Congressman James, about these tariffs, President Trump says that on January 1st he'll impose more. | 詹姆斯议员,关于这些关税,特朗普总统说,1月1日,他将施加更多的关税. |
| 94 | Do you support the president's 50 percent tariff on Canadian automobiles and parts that would go in place the first of the year? | 你支持总统对加拿大汽车和零件征收50%的关税吗? |
| 95 | Give me a yes or no if you could and then explain. | 如果你可以,给我一个是或否,然后解释。 |
| 96 | Yes, slogans aren't going to save us, but solutions are. | 是的,口号不会拯救我们,但解决办法是。 |
| 97 | I'm an automotive industry experienced, and I understand what it takes to create jobs, | 我是一个汽车工业 经验丰富, 我知道需要什么 创造就业, |
| 98 | but under Jocelyn Benson's leadership in Lansing, Michigan has lost 90,000 jobs in manufacturing and also business services. | 但是在Jocelyn Benson在兰辛的领导下,密歇根在制造业和商务服务方面损失了9万个工作机会. |
| 99 | Right now, I've actually never voted to increase tariffs on Canada, despite what she says, | 现在,我从来没有投票 提高加拿大的关税, 尽管她说, |
| 100 | and I've actually called out the administration specifically talking with the trade ambassador | 其实我叫了政府 专门和贸易大使谈话 |
| 101 | and saying that we must get back to the table, stop acting like children, | 并说我们必须回到桌子上,停止像孩子一样的行为, |
| 102 | and negotiate a reciprocal, fair, and mutually beneficial arrangement | 谈判一项互惠、公平和互利的安排; |
| 103 | to make sure that we can bring our jobs back and protect our industry. | 以确保我们能带回我们的工作 并保护我们的产业。 |
| 104 | I've also said this in public, and her lies were actually called out on national television a number of weeks ago. | 我也在公共场合说过, 她的谎言其实是几周前在国家电视台上被喊出来的。 |
| 105 | Today, we dropped a bill called the Trade Act to make sure that we protect our jobs and lower costs | 今天,我们放弃了一个法案,叫《贸易法》,以确保我们保护我们的工作,降低成本。 |
| 106 | because I'm dedicated to bringing solutions and doing things and not just pointing the fingers and complaining. | 因为我致力于带来解决方案和做事情, 不只是指点和抱怨。 |
| 107 | Michigan has lost too many jobs. | 密歇根州失去了太多的工作。 |
| 108 | We need a fair arrangement with our friends and allies in Canada, and this cannot be borne on the backs of Michiganders. | 我们需要与我们在加拿大的朋友和盟友达成公平的安排,这不能靠密歇根人的背心来承受. |
| 109 | May I rebut against that? | 我可以反驳吗? |
| 110 | I can give you 30 seconds. | 我可以给你30秒。 |
| 111 | Thank you so much. | 非常感谢 |
| 112 | So in February of 2023, my opponent voted to give Trump the power to impose these taxes, these tariffs on Michigan, | 因此,2023年2月,我的对手投票 给予特朗普权力 强制征收这些税, 这些关税对密歇根州, |
| 113 | and you can go to JohnJamesTax.com to see exactly how he supported these tariffs | 你可以去John JamesTax.com 看看他是怎么支持这些关税的 |
| 114 | and what we're going to do to protect Michiganders through an agreement with Canada between our state and our friends in the north | 以及我们打算做什么 保护密歇根人 通过与加拿大的协议 我们的州和我们的朋友 在北部 |
| 115 | that will eliminate the burden these taxes, these tariffs have placed on our state | 这些税费给国家带来的负担 |
| 116 | and ensure we have an exception here in Michigan to protect our jobs, protect our wages, and protect our costs. | 确保我们有一个例外 在密歇根州保护我们的工作, 保护我们的工资, 并保护我们的费用。 |
| 117 | I want to follow up with you for 30 seconds, and then we'll put an end to this question and move on. | 我想跟你们继续30秒,然后我们结束这个问题,继续前进. |
| 118 | This is the reason why you don't elect somebody who doesn't understand the automotive industry | 这就是为什么你不选一个不懂汽车行业的人 |
| 119 | or the fact that the state doesn't have anything to do with international agreements. | 或者国家与国际协定无关 |
| 120 | Gretchen Whitmer signed one of these subnational agreements three years ago, hasn't created a single job. | 格莱琴 惠特默在三年前签署了其中一项国家以下一级的协议, 还没有创造出一份工作。 |
| 121 | The fact of the matter is there are six states that have higher export percentages than Michigan. | 事实上,有六个州的出口百分比高于密歇根州。 |
| 122 | Five of them are run by Republican governors, two of them are in the top five overall, and all of them are doing better. | 其中5个由共和党州长管理,2个在总体上排在前5位,所有的人都表现得更好. |
| 123 | Each of the states we're looking to for guidance on where we can be and what we can do economically are run by Republican governors | 我们所期待的每个州 都由共和党州长管理 |
| 124 | and we'll absolutely pass the Trade Act and give Michigan the resilience we need to accept. | 我们绝对会通过《贸易法》 并给予密歇根州所需的韧性 |
| 125 | We're going to move on to the next question, though. | 下个问题我们再谈 |
| 126 | I'm sure we're going to come back to this at some point. | 我敢肯定,我们会回到这个点。 |
| 127 | We're now going to turn to state taxes where your plans are dramatically different. | 我们现在要转向州税 你的计划截然不同 |
| 128 | Congressman James, your economic plan makes this promise. | 詹姆斯议员,你的经济计划 使这个承诺。 |
| 129 | Quote, we are eliminating the state income tax, not someday, not maybe. | 引用,我们正在取消国家所得税,不是某天,也不是也许。 |
| 130 | Your campaign says that you have identified more than $3 billion in government waste, and that can help pay for that reduction. | 你的竞选活动说,你已经查明了超过30亿美元的政府浪费,这可以帮助支付削减费用. |
| 131 | How much would you cut the state income tax in your first budget, and how many years would it take to eliminate it entirely? | 在你的第一个预算中,你会削减多少国家所得税,要用多少年才能完全取消呢? |
| 132 | You have 60 seconds. | 你有60秒时间。 |
| 133 | Well, we have to go at this in a fair and balanced manner. | 我们必须以公平和平衡的方式进行这项工作。 |
| 134 | Working with the House Oversight Committee and also Auditor General Reports, we were able to figure out where to cut the pork. | 与众议院监督委员会以及审计长报告一起工作,我们得以找出从哪里切猪肉。 |
| 135 | P, these are politicians' pet projects in Lansing, $1.5 billion. | P,这些都是政客在兰辛的宠物项目,15亿美元. |
| 136 | I, you have improper payment and fraud, that's $0.85 billion. | 我,你有不正当的付款和欺诈, 这是8.5亿美元。 |
| 137 | G, general funds that are unspent, $0.65 billion. | G,未用普通基金,6.5亿美元。 |
| 138 | It's up to $3 billion that we can use to put more money back in your pockets and spur and grow the economy, | 最多30亿美元,我们可以用来 将更多的钱 回到你的口袋,刺激和增长经济, |
| 139 | particularly helping with tax credits that will help employers upskill their existing workers and target specific key blue collar work for targeted tax credits. | 特别是帮助提供税收抵免,帮助雇主提高现有工人的技能,并针对具体的蓝领工作提供有针对性的税收抵免。 |
| 140 | These are things that would put money back into people's pockets, and that's just the start. | 这些东西会把钱放回人们的口袋里, 这只是开始。 |
| 141 | If a state like Minnesota can find $9 billion in fraud in a state that has 50% of our budget and 60% of our population, | 如果明尼苏达州能发现 90亿美元的欺诈行为 发生在我们预算的50%和人口60%的州里 |
| 142 | how much more do you think we can find in a state that's spending $20 billion more today than they spent when Gretchen Whitmer took over? | 你觉得今天比格蕾琴·惠特默接管时多花费200亿美元吗 |
| 143 | There's plenty more to go, and we will cut taxes without cutting vital services. | 还有很多事情要做,我们会在不削减重要服务的情况下减税。 |
| 144 | Before I get the initial question to the Secretary, I want to get a clarity here. | 在我向秘书提出初步问题之前,我想在这里澄清一下。 |
| 145 | If eliminating waste does not replace all of the lost revenue, | 如果消除废物不能取代所有损失的收入, |
| 146 | is the particular area in state government that you would spend to help make up the difference for taxpayers you have 30 seconds? | 州政府中您会花多少时间来弥补纳税人的差额? |
| 147 | Well, see, this is the assumption. | 这就是假设 |
| 148 | People are already paying way too many taxes, and the government is wasting your money. | 人们已经交了太多税了 政府正在浪费你的钱 |
| 149 | We need to go in there and bring value to what people are spending. | 我们需要进去,给人们花的钱带来价值。 |
| 150 | And so this is what you do to run a business. | 这就是你经营企业的目的 |
| 151 | You can't just cut your way to success. | 你不能只是切 道路你的成功。 |
| 152 | You have to be able to grow, and you have to have a government that runs efficiently. | 你必须能够成长, 你必须有一个高效运行的政府。 |
| 153 | Being a businessman myself, I understand what it takes to run organizations efficiently. | 作为一名商人,我了解如何有效地管理组织。 |
| 154 | Thank you very much. | 谢谢 |
| 155 | Now, Secretary Bitson, still standing on taxes. | 现在,比特森部长, 仍然站在税收。 |
| 156 | In one of your campaign ads, you said you would cut taxes for working and middle-class families, not big corporations. | 在你的竞选广告中, 你说你会削减税 对于劳动和中产阶级家庭, 不是大公司。 |
| 157 | Can you say which specific state tax you would cut and how much that would save a Michigan family? | 你能说说,你会削减哪些州税 以及这能节省多少密歇根家庭? |
| 158 | You have 60 seconds. | 你有60秒时间。 |
| 159 | First, $5,600 per household. | 一,每户5600元. |
| 160 | That's how much the John James tax is costing the people of Michigan. | 约翰·詹姆斯的税费就是这个代价 |
| 161 | And that's why on day one, I will call Canada and negotiate a contract between Michigan and Canada to eliminate that tax on our households and save us money. | 这就是为什么在第一天,我会打电话给加拿大 并谈判密歇根和加拿大之间的合同 取消对我们家庭的税收 并节省我们的钱。 |
| 162 | Number two, middle-class tax cuts are an important part of my agenda and will be an important part of my first budget. | 第二,中产阶级减税是我的议程的重要组成部分,将成为我第一个预算的重要组成部分. |
| 163 | That included in those tax credits will be a $5,000 tax credit for long-term care, long-term caregivers who are paying a lot and suffering a lot under these current health care premium increases. | 税收抵免额中包括5 000美元的税收抵免额,用于长期护理、长期护理人员,他们在目前保健费增加的情况下付出了很大代价,并承受了很大痛苦。 |
| 164 | This will give them some relief. | 这将给他们一些解脱。 |
| 165 | I'll also pass tax cuts for parents who are covering child care. | 我也会给那些照顾孩子的父母减税 |
| 166 | I believe child care costs need to go down if we're going to improve education and give our kids a good start and support the hardworking parents who are supporting their kids. | 我认为,如果我们要改善教育,让我们的孩子有一个良好的开端,支持那些支持孩子的辛勤工作的父母,就必须降低儿童保育费用。 |
| 167 | Those are the types of middle-class tax cuts that you'll see in my first budget. | 这些是中产阶级减税的种类,你会在我的第一份预算中看到. |
| 168 | But I'll start on day one by eliminating the John James tax, which is costing Michigan households, according to Axios, more than any other state in the nation. | 但我会从第一天开始 取消约翰·詹姆斯的税 根据Axios的说法 密歇根州家庭的费用 比全国任何其他州都要高 |
| 169 | I want to do a quick follow with you on this because people at home are hearing middle-class tax cut and they want to know if that's them. | 我想跟你们说一下 因为家里有人听到中产阶级减税 他们想知道是不是他们 |
| 170 | Where would a family no longer qualify as middle-class under your plan? | 根据你的计划,一个家庭在哪里不再有资格成为中产阶级? |
| 171 | Well, I'll put it this way. | 好吧,我这样说吧。 |
| 172 | Any family who is providing long-term care for an aging loved one will qualify for a $5,000 tax credit to ease the challenges of providing that long-term care. | 任何为年老的亲人提供长期护理的家庭都将有资格获得5 000美元的税收减免,以减轻提供长期护理的挑战。 |
| 173 | Any family who's covering a rising cost of child care will provide and find some tax relief in my first budget. | 任何家庭,谁支付 不断上涨的育儿费用 提供和找到一些税收减免 在我的第一个预算。 |
| 174 | That's what it means to have a budget that stands with working families and invest in their success. | 这就是拥有与工作家庭并肩作战,为成功投资的预算的含义. |
| 175 | I want to move on to a subject that impacts everybody. | 我想继续讨论一个影响每个人的问题。 |
| 176 | I can only imagine how it's impacted the two of you as you go all over the state. | 我只能想象你们走遍全州时 你们俩受到多大影响 |
| 177 | It's $5 a gallon gas. | 每加仑汽油5元. |
| 178 | $0.52 of every gallon that you buy is of a state gas tax. | 你每买一加仑的0.52美元 是国家天然气税 |
| 179 | Secretary Benson, I'm going to begin with you, and I know you've talked about this, but if elected, would you suspend the gas tax? | 本森部长,我要从你开始,我知道你已经谈过了,但是如果当选,你会暂停煤气税吗? |
| 180 | 60 seconds. | 60秒钟。 |
| 181 | Yes, I'm open to suspending the state gas tax, but I also think we need to be clear how we got here. | 是的,我愿意暂停州天然气税, 但我也认为我们需要 清楚我们是如何来到这里的。 |
| 182 | It's because of a reckless war in Iran that my opponent has voted six times to support and that is directly to blame for the rising cost of gas and oil in this nation right now. | 正是由于伊朗的一场鲁莽战争,我的对手已经投票六次支持,这直接归罪于这个民族现在天然气和石油的成本不断上涨. |
| 183 | That's why the federal government also has a responsibility to play. | 因此联邦政府也有责任发挥. |
| 184 | My opponent could go, as I've asked him and others to do, to Washington tomorrow and eliminate or put a holiday on the federal gas tax, which would also provide necessary relief for Michigan families and families all across this nation. | 我的对手可以照我要求他和其他人做的,明天去华盛顿,取消或者把节日放上联邦天然气税,这也会为密歇根州的家庭和全国的家庭提供必要的减免. |
| 185 | I know the costs have gone up more than any other state on gas in Michigan, and that's why we need people at the federal level to take responsibility for the mess they created and do something to reduce those costs. | 我知道密歇根州天然气的成本比其他任何州都高 所以我们需要联邦层面的人 来为他们所制造的混乱负责 并做点什么来降低这些成本 |
| 186 | And then, yes, I'm always open to finding any way to reduce costs as well here in Michigan, and I'm looking forward to having those conversations with folks on both sides of the aisle in Lansing. | 然后,是的,我总是愿意寻找任何方法 来降低密歇根州的成本, 我期待着在兰辛与过道两侧的人进行这些对话。 |
| 187 | Congressman James, same question for you. | 詹姆斯议员,同样的问题。 |
| 188 | If you're elected, would you support a temporary pause in the gas tax here in the state? | 如果你当选,你会支持暂时暂停 天然气税在州? |
| 189 | You have 60 seconds. | 你有60秒时间。 |
| 190 | Yes, I have 52 cents off of a gallon would actually take us down into the threes. | 是的,我有一加仑的52美分钱 会带我们进入三加仑。 |
| 191 | And this is just another example where my opponent used a whole bunch of words and didn't say anything. | 这仅仅是另一个例子,我的对手用了很多话,没有说什么。 |
| 192 | We know that I can't go back and call Congress into session. | 我们知道我不能回去召集国会开会 |
| 193 | That's just foolish. | 这是愚蠢的。 |
| 194 | But what I can do is I can call for a gas tax holiday. | 但我能做的就是叫一个煤气税假日 |
| 195 | What we can do is use the MEDC money to really put it back toward the people. | 我们能做的是用MEDC的钱 把它真正地放回人民手中。 |
| 196 | Half a billion dollars we used to fund it, and if we actually had a rainy day fund that was sufficient, it was blown in the past eight years, then we would have a better ability to do that. | 我们过去资助了5亿美元, 如果我们真的有一个足够多的雨天基金, 它在过去8年里就被吹了, 那么我们就会有更好的能力做到这一点。 |
| 197 | You hear a lot about these little slogans here, but what she's not going to tell you is median household income in the state of Michigan is $9,000 less than the median household income around the nation. | 你在这里听到很多关于这些小口号, 但她不会告诉你的是密歇根州的家庭收入中位数 比全国家庭收入中位数少9000美元。 |
| 198 | And African Americans in the state of Michigan are $25,000 less than that. | 而密歇根州的非裔美国人比这少25,000美元. |
| 199 | You want to talk about how failures in leadership are coming directly out of your pocket. | 你想谈谈领导层的失败是如何直接从你的口袋里产生的。 |
| 200 | You can look at the failed energy policies, the failed household home building policies, and the failed policies that are increasing the rates of gas and groceries. | 你可以看看失败的能源政策,失败的家庭建设政策,以及正在提高天然气和杂货价格的失败政策. |
| 201 | Yes, we will support repealing, temporarily suspending the gas tax. | 是的,我们将支持废除, 暂停天然气税。 |
| 202 | Thank you very much. | 谢谢 |
| 203 | I want to turn to education. | 我想转向教育。 |
| 204 | You may have 30 seconds. | 你可能还有30秒 |
| 205 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 206 | I mean, I just think we have to take responsibility for who's really in charge and the reason why we're here. | 我的意思是,我只是认为我们必须承担责任 谁才是真正的领导 和我们在这里的原因。 |
| 207 | You voted six times in support of a war in Iran that has directly led to the increase in these gas prices. | 你投了六票支持伊朗的战争 直接导致了天然气价格上涨 |
| 208 | And you can, as a member of Congress, demand that your leadership reconvene in Washington, D.C., and take responsibility for this mess by eliminating the federal gas tax that is also costing families right now. | 作为国会议员,你可以要求你的领导层 在华盛顿特区重新开会, 并且通过取消联邦的天然气税 来为这场混乱负责, 联邦的天然气税 同时也在为家庭造成损失。 |
| 209 | That's what real leadership would look like in this moment, and that's what I've called on you to do. | 这才是真正领导这一刻的模样,这也是我号召你们做的. |
| 210 | Yes. | 对 |
| 211 | 30 seconds. | 30秒钟。 |
| 212 | I have called on both the suspension of the federal and the state gas tax, and she knows this. | 我要求暂停联邦和州天然气税 她知道这一点 |
| 213 | Also, I struggle with that vote. | 还有,我对那票很不满 |
| 214 | I'm a combat veteran. | 我是个老战士 |
| 215 | I have been to war. | 我去过战场 |
| 216 | She has not. | 她没有。 |
| 217 | I understand what war means, and so I voted to protect the troops and to fund them while they were in harm's way. | 我理解战争意味着什么,于是我投票保护了部队,并在部队处于危险中时为他们提供资助. |
| 218 | But Iran must not have a nuke. | 但伊朗决不能有核武器。 |
| 219 | And this is a regime that has funded the Tehran, has funded Beirut in killing hundreds of Marines and have killed thousands of our countrymen. | 这个政权资助了德黑兰,资助了贝鲁特杀害了数百名海军陆战队员,并杀害了数千名我们的同胞. |
| 220 | They cannot have a nuke and they cannot allow extremists to continue to fund terror. | 他们不能拥有核武器,也不能允许极端分子继续资助恐怖行动。 |
| 221 | I want to move to education. | 我想去上学 |
| 222 | We know that this is another issue that the next governor is going to have to look at seriously in a study from the 2025 Kids Count Data Book. | 我们知道,这是另一个问题, 下一任州长将不得不在2025年 儿童计算数据书的研究中 认真研究。 |
| 223 | Michigan was ranked 44th for K through 12 outcomes. | 密歇根州在K到12场比赛中排名第44位. |
| 224 | Michigan's fourth grade reading performance remains near the bottom nationally. | 密歇根州四年级的阅读表现仍然在全国接近底部. |
| 225 | Mississippi, by contrast, has posted major fourth grade reading gains and now surpasses Michigan. | 相比之下,密西西比州取得了四年级的主要阅读成绩,现在超过了密歇根州。 |
| 226 | Congressman James, and I know you've talked about this too, would you adopt parts of that Mississippi literacy program in Michigan? | 詹姆斯议员 我知道你也谈过了 你会接受密歇根州密西西比扫盲计划吗? |
| 227 | Absolutely. | 当然 |
| 228 | You have 60 seconds. | 你有60秒时间。 |
| 229 | Yes, I was just with Governor Reeves yesterday and today. | 是的 我昨天和今天刚和里夫斯州长在一起 |
| 230 | And the policies that he's put in place, he said that are exactly the ones that I have. | 而他制定的政策, 他说,这正是我的政策。 |
| 231 | We need to focus on phonics. | 须专注持诵. |
| 232 | We need to focus on the science of everyone in the system to make sure that they have the resources that they need to be successful. | 我们需要注重系统每个人的科学,以确保他们拥有成功所需的资源。 |
| 233 | And then we need to get the overhead out of the system. | 然后,我们需要把 间接费用的系统。 |
| 234 | Fifty percent of all the dollars that we are spending are not actually making to the classrooms. | 我们花费的全部钱的50% 并没有真正用于教室。 |
| 235 | It's screwing over the teachers, it's screwing over the kids, and we need to make sure we're holding people accountable for those things. | 它在欺负老师,在欺负孩子们, 我们需要确保我们追究人们的责任。 |
| 236 | If we do that, then we're going to be able to move not just into literacy, but also into numeracy, insurgency. | 如果我们这样做,那么我们将不仅能够进入识字阶段,而且能够进入算术,叛乱阶段. |
| 237 | Count day is tomorrow. | 计数日是明天。 |
| 238 | We need to make sure that we have everybody in their seats because I want public schools to be successful. | 我们需要确保每个人都在他们的座位上 因为我希望公立学校取得成功 |
| 239 | I want private home and charter schools to be successful because a quality education is a basic civil right. | 我希望私立学校和特许学校取得成功,因为优质教育是一项基本的公民权利。 |
| 240 | And I will look out for it as governor. | 我会以州长的身份注意的 |
| 241 | Secretary Benson, same question. | 秘书本森,同样的问题。 |
| 242 | Would you adopt parts of that literacy plan for Mississippi? | 你会接受密西西比的识字计划吗? |
| 243 | You have 60 seconds. | 你有60秒时间。 |
| 244 | Well, yes, and more. | 嗯,是的,还有更多。 |
| 245 | First of all, I'm a mom and a military spouse. | 首先,我是一个母亲和一个军人配偶。 |
| 246 | And by the way, military spouses serve also, Congressman. | 顺便说一句, 军人配偶也服务,议员。 |
| 247 | I'm also the daughter of special education teachers. | 我也是特殊教育教师的女儿. |
| 248 | And I think we have to be honest with how we got here. | 我认为我们必须诚实地对待我们是如何来到这里的。 |
| 249 | Three decades of defunding our public schools here in Michigan higher than any other state in the nation. | 密歇根州公立学校的停学30年 比全国任何其他州都多 |
| 250 | And who better to turn this around with the sense of urgency that we need? | 谁来更好地扭转这种局面? |
| 251 | But a former teacher, as I am, I'm ready to go further than what they've done in Mississippi by implementing a five pillar plan. | 但一位前老师,作为我, 我准备更进一步 比他们在密西西比州所做的, 通过执行一个五个支柱计划。 |
| 252 | 你可以在Jocelyn Benson点点com读到所有细节。 | |
| 253 | It includes a Michigan education guarantee that will ensure our kids are college or career ready no matter what public school they graduate from. | 其中包括密歇根州教育保障,保证我们的孩子无论从哪所公立学校毕业,都能够上大学或事业。 |
| 254 | It'll include better pay and more respect and wraparound services for our educators so that they get the professional development support that they need to thrive. | 这将包括更好的报酬, 更多的尊重和包罗服务 我们的教育工作者,让他们得到 他们需要的专业发展支持 他们蓬勃发展。 |
| 255 | It'll redo our funding formula so that we're providing that specific needs for every school district and invest in early childhood education because what happens to our kids in age zero to six can set them up for success in kindergarten beyond. | 它会重做我们的资助公式 这样我们就能提供每个校区的具体需求 并投资于幼儿教育 因为发生在我们0到6岁的孩子身上的事情 可以让他们在幼儿园里取得成功 |
| 256 | I'm ready as a former teacher, as the daughter of teachers and as a mom to bring the urgency that is needed to this issue and reform our public schools so that in the future we're talking about the Michigan miracle, not the Mississippi one. | 作为前老师,作为教师的女儿,作为母亲,我准备给这个问题带来必要的紧迫感,并改革我们的公立学校,以便今后我们谈论的是密歇根奇迹,而不是密西西比奇迹. |
| 257 | I want to follow up with both of you. | 我想跟你们俩继续 |
| 258 | I'm going to start with you, Congressman James, with a 30 second response. | 我从你开始,詹姆斯议员 30秒后回复 |
| 259 | Would you support requiring a third grader who can't demonstrate basic reading proficiency to repeat that grade? | 你会支持要求一个不能表现出基本阅读熟练程度的三年级学生 重复那个年级吗? |
| 260 | You have 30 seconds. | 你有30秒钟。 |
| 261 | Our retention is absolutely on the table and we have to make sure that we're doing it in a manner that doesn't hurt or crush the spirit of the child. | 我们的留守绝对摆在桌面上,我们必须保证我们这样做的方式不会伤害或粉碎孩子的精神. |
| 262 | What they do in Mississippi is they have the testing, the gating early that spring. | 他们在密西西比州做的是测试, 那时春天很早。 |
| 263 | They allow testing again early in the summer and then they allow testing again later in the summer. | 它们允许夏季初再次测试,然后允许夏季后期再次测试. |
| 264 | They also have different tutors that will be able to help with helping that child to make sure that we're not getting to that position to begin with. | 他们也有不同的辅导员, 可以帮助那个孩子 确保我们没有到那个位置开始。 |
| 265 | And as governor, I will opt into the Education Freedom Tax Credit that will allow parents additional resources to get tutoring for the children as well. | 作为州长,我将选择 教育自由税抵免 这将使父母有更多的资源 为孩子们提供辅导。 |
| 266 | Is that a yes or a no? | 是还是不是? |
| 267 | Secretary Benson, would you support requiring a third grader who cannot demonstrate basic reading proficiency to repeat that grade? | 本森秘书,你是否支持要求一个不能表现出基本阅读熟练程度的三年级学生 重复那个年级? |
| 268 | You know, I grew up in the back of my parents' classroom watching how hard they fought for their kids. | 我从小就在我父母的教室里长大 看着他们为孩子而战 |
| 269 | And that's why I believe that teachers should be the ones making those calls, making those decisions far more than a politician or a governor should be. | 这就是为什么我认为,教师应该 做那些呼吁, 做出这些决定 远远超出政治家或州长应该。 |
| 270 | But at the same time, we need to be providing the support for every school, for every parent, for every district, for every kid, for every teacher to ensure it never gets to that point. | 但与此同时,我们需要为每一个学校,每个家长,每个地区,每个孩子,每个教师提供支持,以确保它永远不能到达那个地步. |
| 271 | And if it does, that we do come in with the wraparound support that our teachers, our students, and our school districts need so that we ensure we're addressing that issue and we're minimizing its ability to ever happen again. | 如果确实如此,我们确实得到了 我们的教师、学生和校区需要的支持, 这样我们才能确保我们解决这个问题, 并尽可能降低它再次发生的能力。 |
| 272 | But I believe we need to respect teachers, we need to respect the folks on the ground, respect the parents, and give them the support they need to take care of our kids. | 但我相信,我们需要尊重教师,我们需要尊重当地的人,尊重父母,并给予他们照顾我们的孩子所需的支持. |
| 273 | Thank you both very much. | 非常感谢你们 |
| 274 | Let's move on now to another issue where I think your approaches are pretty different, and that is energy. | 现在再谈另一个问题 我认为你们的方法很不一样, 那就是能量。 |
| 275 | Secretary Benson, you said you are, quote, very proud of Michigan's requirement that utilities move toward 100 percent renewables by 2040. | 本森部长 你说你非常自豪密歇根要求 公用事业到2040年实现100%的可再生能源 |
| 276 | If Michigan continues on that program toward 2040 and for that requirement, but electric rates continue to increase, would you change or delay that in any way? | 如果密歇根州持续到2040年 并且为了这个要求, 但是电费在继续上升, 你会改变还是推迟呢? |
| 277 | You have 60 seconds. | 你有60秒时间。 |
| 278 | Well, you know, I live in Detroit. | 我住在底特律 |
| 279 | Every month I see my electricity bills go up and my outages increase as well. | 我每个月都会看到电费上涨, |
| 280 | And this was really brought home to me just the other day when my neighbor Gwen said, you know, I have cancer right now and every month I have to look at my bills and choose whether to pay for my chemotherapy or for my electricity bill. | 那天我邻居格温说,我现在得了癌症 每个月我都要看账单 选择支付化疗费或电费 |
| 281 | So I know the next governor of Michigan must ensure we are ending profit driven rate hikes that have gotten us here where our electricity bills are going up in some cases more than many other states. | 所以,我知道密歇根州下一任州长 必须确保我们结束 利润驱动的利率上涨 使我们在这里 我们的电费上升 在某些情况下 比其他许多州。 |
| 282 | And also invest in clean energy infrastructure, because frankly, that is the only thing that will reduce our energy costs in the long term. | 并且投资清洁能源基础设施, 因为坦率地说,这是唯一能长期降低能源成本的东西。 |
| 283 | So as governor, I will be proud to ensure we're modernizing our electricity grid and investing in clean energy infrastructure to drive down the cost of energy overall, create more energy independence and bring Michigan into the future so that our bills go | 因此,作为州长,我将自豪地确保我们的电网现代化,并投资于清洁能源基础设施,以全面推动降低能源成本,创造更多的能源独立,并将密歇根州带入未来,这样我们的账单就会倒闭而不是上升. |
| 284 | Thank you very much, Congressman. | 非常感谢,议员 |
| 285 | Your energy plan calls for replacing Michigan's current clean energy requirements with an all of the above solution that would include natural gas, nuclear, renewable storage. | 您的能源计划要求用上述包括天然气,核能,可再生能源储存在内的所有解决方案来取代密歇根州目前对清洁能源的需求. |
| 286 | If you repeal the current clean energy mandate, would you also put a moratorium on renewable projects? | 如果取消目前的清洁能源授权,你是否还会暂停可再生能源项目? |
| 287 | You have 60 seconds. | 你有60秒时间。 |
| 288 | They need to pencil. | 他们需要铅笔。 |
| 289 | These things need to work out so that DTE and consumers aren't going back to the utility regulators and asking for increases that you are paying for each and every single year. | 这些事情需要解决,这样DTE和消费者就不会回到公用事业监管部门去,要求增加你每年支付的费用。 |
| 290 | The fact of the matter is Public Act 235 is forcing a mandate that we are not ready for. | 事实上,第235号《公共法》正在迫使我们承担我们尚未准备好的任务。 |
| 291 | We need to make sure we have an all of the above approach where, yes, renewables, yes, natural gas, yes, nuclear, all of the above so that we can keep our prices low so we can remain resilient. | 我们需要确保我们有一个以上所有的方法, 对,可再生能源,对,天然气,对,核, 所有以上,以便我们能够保持低价,这样我们才能保持弹性。 |
| 292 | But this needs to this needs to be economical as well as environmental as well. | 但这既需要经济,也需要环境。 |
| 293 | I voted for the rate payer protection act to make sure that we keep our prices low all over the country and especially in Michigan because Michigan has some of the highest utility bills in the entire Midwest, double what they have in Ohio and 50% higher t | 我投票支持 利率支付者保护法案 确保我们保持 我们的价格低 全国各地,特别是在密歇根州 因为密歇根州有一些 最高的公用事业账单 在全中西部, |
| 294 | We can and we must repeal harmful regulations while also taking care of our environment to make sure that Gwynn can pay for all of the utilities and make it affordable as well. | 我们可以而且必须废除有害的条例,同时也要照顾我们的环境,以确保格温能够支付所有公用事业的费用,并使它也负担得起。 |
| 295 | Okay, this next subject and I apologize to the guy in the open who said he wished we wouldn't talk about data centers. | 好吧,接下来这个话题 我向公开场合的人道歉 他说他不希望我们谈论数据中心 |
| 296 | We're going to talk about data centers. | 我们要谈谈数据中心 |
| 297 | It is an issue that is not in my backyard real life event at commission meetings and town halls across the state. | 这是一个不在我的后院 现实生活中的问题 在委员会会议和全州的市政厅。 |
| 298 | We've seen strong opposition to data centers and in this campaign, both of you have been called out in commercials about something about data centers. | 我们看到了对数据中心的强烈反对 在这场运动中, 你们两个在广告中被叫来 关于数据中心的东西。 |
| 299 | You with your husband and the saline data center being benefiting financially and you from buying stock and data centers or companies connected with data centers. | 你丈夫和盐碱数据中心在经济上受益 你从购买股票和数据中心或与数据中心有联系的公司中获益 |
| 300 | I think when people see commercials during campaign season, they say, is that true? | 我想当人们在竞选季节看到广告时, 他们说,这是真的吗? |
| 301 | So, Congressman James, I want to know if the ad the ads about you are true and your position on data centers. | 詹姆斯议员 我想知道广告上关于你的广告是否属实 以及你在数据中心的立场 |
| 302 | My position data centers has been clear for for months and months and months. | 我的位置数据中心已经清晰了好几个月 |
| 303 | We must have local control. | 我们必须有地方控制。 |
| 304 | Our electricity bills can't go up. | 我们的电费不能涨 |
| 305 | We need to protect our water, prevent pollution that includes air, land, water and noise pollution. | 我们需要保护我们的水,防止包括空气、土地、水和噪音污染在内的污染。 |
| 306 | And we need to prioritize our blighted brownfields over productive green farmland. | 我们需要将我们破碎的棕色田地 放在绿色农田之上 |
| 307 | I was over at Saline just last week with people who are beside themselves that they were bulldozed by the powerful and and frankly bulldozed by people who knew better. | 我上周在萨林 和身边的人在一起 他们被强者推平了 被更清楚的人推平了 |
| 308 | Yes, I have always advocated for for energy and opportunity, but it has to be led by the locals and not led by Lansing. | 是的,我一直主张要有精力和机会,但是它必须由当地人领导,而不是由兰辛领导. |
| 309 | These are types of things that are very important. | 这些都是非常重要的事情。 |
| 310 | And frankly, we need a governor who will respect the will of the people. | 坦率地说,我们需要一位尊重人民意愿的总督。 |
| 311 | Secretary Benson has been tied in with these with these data centers and has not been forthcoming with the people. | Benson秘书一直与这些数据中心联系在一起,没有与人民接触。 |
| 312 | I'm sure she's going to give her excuses now. | 我敢肯定,她会给 她现在的借口。 |
| 313 | But do you have stock in data centers and data center related companies? | 但你有数据中心和数据中心相关公司的股票吗? |
| 314 | So when you consider having mutual funds and everything that's disclosed, then then sure. | 所以,当你考虑有共同基金 和所有披露,然后确定。 |
| 315 | But to insinuate that somebody is is is on the take from anything is reckless. | 但暗示有人在抢夺一切是鲁莽的 |
| 316 | And frankly, it's it's it's wrong, especially when you consider the fact that her family is not disclosed all this information. | 坦率地说,这是错的,特别是当你考虑到她的家人没有披露所有这些信息的时候. |
| 317 | We have been extremely transparent. | 我们非常透明。 |
| 318 | We are in compliance with ethics and we've been forthcoming and abiding with law. | 我们是遵守道德的 我们一直遵守法律 |
| 319 | Thank you, sir. | 谢谢你,先生。 |
| 320 | Secretary Benson, are the ads true? | 本森部长,广告是真的吗? |
| 321 | And tell me about where you are on these. | 告诉我你在这上面 |
| 322 | Well, thank you for the opportunity to set the record straight here. | 谢谢你给我这个机会 澄清事实 |
| 323 | We have disclosed all our personal finances with the state, and that has reinforced the fact that my family has not profited from data centers. | 我们已经向国家披露了我们所有的个人财务情况,这加强了一个事实,即我的家人并没有从数据中心获益。 |
| 324 | It's a lie. | 谓虚妄. |
| 325 | And my opponent knows it. | 我的对手知道这一点。 |
| 326 | I've called for a moratorium on any new data center developments until we have real guardrails in place to protect local control, protect our water, | 我要求暂停任何新的数据中心的发展 直到我们有真正的护栏 来保护本地的控制 保护我们的水源 |
| 327 | require data centers to shoulder the burden of any energy usage and invest in community benefits agreements that will protect our communities in sharp contrast. | 要求数据中心承担任何能源使用的负担,投资于社区利益协议,以鲜明的对比保护我们的社区。 |
| 328 | My opponent has become a multimillionaire buying stocks and data center companies that he regulates. | 我的对手已经成为百万富翁 购买股票和数据中心公司 他监管。 |
| 329 | And he not his spouse. | 他没有他的配偶。 |
| 330 | He has voted to to cut taxes on those very same companies. | 他投票决定削减这些公司的税收。 |
| 331 | And he not his spouse. | 他没有他的配偶。 |
| 332 | He has also voted four times to block the ability of local communities to have a voice or a say in whether data centers can come to those communities. | 他还投票四次,以阻止地方社区在数据中心能否进入这些社区的问题上拥有发言权或发言权。 |
| 333 | That record is clear and also, frankly, says everything we need to know about what side my opponent is really on. | 这个记录是清楚的,而且坦率地说,我们需要知道的一切关于我的对手真正站在哪一边。 |
| 334 | Secretary Benson, another follow up in this. | 本森部长,还有另一条线索 |
| 335 | Oh, I'm sorry. | 对不起 |
| 336 | I missed that. | 我错过了 |
| 337 | Congressman James, please go ahead. | 詹姆斯议员 请继续 |
| 338 | That's a massive mischaracterization of the fact that those things didn't pass. | 这是对事实的大规模错误描述 那些东西没有通过。 |
| 339 | I did not support it. | 我并不支持这一点。 |
| 340 | And I have been open and honest with everyone about the position. | 我对大家的立场都坦诚和诚实。 |
| 341 | Secretary Benson has been absolutely wrong on this. | 本森部长对此绝对是错误的 |
| 342 | And she was for them before she was against them. | 在反对他们之前,她是为他们服务的。 |
| 343 | She's playing us, manipulating us and smiling to the camera right now, | 她耍我们,操纵我们 和微笑的镜头现在, |
| 344 | because she knows that she's dirty as sin on this and she's throwing mud to make everybody else look worse. | 因为她知道自己是肮脏的罪过 她扔泥巴让其他人看起来更糟 |
| 345 | The fact of the matter is that people know the truth and they know that we will always support local control. | 事实是,人们知道真相,他们知道,我们将永远支持地方控制。 |
| 346 | Congressman, have you or have you not become a multimillionaire by buying stocks in the data center companies that you're charged with regulating? | 议员,你有没有成为百万富翁 在数据中心购买股票 你负责监管? |
| 347 | No. | 没有 |
| 348 | Have you or have you not voted to cut taxes on those same data center companies? | 你有没有投票 削减这些数据中心公司的税收? |
| 349 | And can't you admit that you voted four times to block the ability of local residents to have a say in whether data centers can come to their town? | 你不能承认你投票四次 阻止当地居民对数据中心 能否到他们的城镇有发言权吗? |
| 350 | Your record speaks for itself. | 你的记录很说明问题 |
| 351 | It's public for everyone to see. | 大众皆见. |
| 352 | 是的,你可以去John JamesTax.com看更多。 | |
| 353 | Yeah, you can twist any facts and data, but the fact of the matter is your running mate actually passed Public Act 233 that ramrods these data centers down people's throats. | 是的,你可以扭曲 任何事实和数据, 但事实是,你的运行伴侣 实际上通过了公共法案233 将这些数据中心 冲向人们的喉咙。 |
| 354 | And to answer your question, no, it was actually debunked in Bridge that said that the bulk of the money that has been made is because of successful business. | 为了回答你的问题, 不,事实上是在Bridge被拆掉的, 说大部分的钱都是因为生意的成功。 |
| 355 | And frankly, having a governor who understands how to run successful business is an experience that you do not have as you would run this state economically into the ground. | 坦率地说,拥有一个能理解如何经营成功企业的州长, 是一个你没有的经验, 因为你会从经济上管理这个国家。 |
| 356 | As the CEO of one of our state's largest agencies, I'm actually very proud that we've been able to transform the Department of Motor Vehicles to become one of the most efficient and customer service friendly agencies in the nation. | 作为我们这个州最大的机构之一的首席执行官,我实际上非常自豪,我们已经能够改造机动车辆部,成为全国效率最高,最方便顾客服务的机构之一. |
| 357 | I'm also proud that we were able to transform that antiquated system in our office to eliminate wait times, provide better services for citizens. | 我也感到自豪的是,我们得以改造了我们办公室中过时的制度,以消除等待时间,为公民提供更好的服务. |
| 358 | And that shows exactly how I, as someone who's run not just one of our state's largest agencies, but an educational institution that I also turned around from being ranked fourth in the nation to number to in the top 50 nationwide. | 这恰恰说明了我作为一个不仅管理着我们州最大机构之一的人, 而且也是一个教育机构, 我从全国排名第四, 数字位居全国前50位。 |
| 359 | I know how to run big institutions and fix broken systems. | 我知道如何管理大机构 和修复破碎的系统。 |
| 360 | Senator Vinson, back to you, you'll be happy to know that this question is about data centers too, or at least partially. | Vinson参议员 回到你身边 你会很高兴知道 这个问题也是关于数据中心的 或者至少是部分的 |
| 361 | Data center builders have long used non-disclosure agreements when they're discussing locating a facility in Michigan. | 数据中心的建设者在讨论密歇根州某设施的位置时 长期使用不披露协议 |
| 362 | The Lowell, Michigan proposal is an example. | 洛威尔,密歇根州的提案就是一个例子. |
| 363 | Is there ever a legitimate reason for a public official to keep the details of a proposed data center confidential from the people who live nearby? | 公职人员是否有正当理由对附近居民对拟议数据中心的细节保密? |
| 364 | You have 30 seconds. | 你有30秒钟。 |
| 365 | I believe transparency is our friend. | 我认为透明度是我们的朋友。 |
| 366 | It's why I, as governor, will voluntarily comply with FOIA on day one. | 这就是为什么我作为州长 会在第一天自愿遵守FOIA。 |
| 367 | Why I support the elimination of non-disclosure agreements when it comes to data centers coming to communities, | 为什么我支持取消不披露协议 当数据中心来到社区, |
| 368 | because we have to ensure our citizens are informed and engaged that their voices can be heard in every election at the local level on data centers and everywhere in between. | 因为我们必须确保我们的公民了解并参与,他们的声音能够在地方一级的每次选举中,在数据中心和中间的任何地方都能听到。 |
| 369 | It's why I've committed my life to protecting democracy, protecting our elections, protecting people's voices, and transparency and requirements for transparency and accountability are critical to that. | 这就是为什么我毕生致力于保护民主,保护我们的选举,保护人民的声音,透明度以及对透明度和问责制的要求,对于这一点至关重要. |
| 370 | Same question to you, Congressman. | 同样的问题,议员。 |
| 371 | Should a public official ever, is it ever legitimate, I guess is the question, for them to sign an NDA and keep the proposed data center confidential from people who would live nearby? | 我想,如果一个公职人员永远合法的话, 问题是,让他们签署一个NDA, 并且向住在附近的人保密, |
| 372 | You have 30 seconds. | 你有30秒钟。 |
| 373 | Protecting democracy, this is the woman who was slapped down by a judge for literally trying to manipulate a presidential ballot. | 为了保护民主,这位妇女被法官打倒,因为她实际上试图操纵总统选举。 |
| 374 | There's absolutely no excuse to retain information and keep it away from the people. | 绝对没有借口保留信息,瞒着人民. |
| 375 | Her own running mate signed an NDA for what's going on in Saline, and there's countless other things and omissions that we don't know about. | 她自己的竞选伙伴为萨琳的事签了NDA,还有我们不知道的无数其他事和遗漏. |
| 376 | I led this campaign with an ethics and transparency agenda because I understand how important it is to be ethical and transparent. | 我以道德和透明度议程领导这次运动,因为我理解道德和透明度的重要性。 |
| 377 | Yes or no on the NDA? | 是还是不是在NDA上? |
| 378 | 说,没有NDA。 | |
| 379 | Okay, and what about a moratorium? | 好吧,那暂停呢? |
| 380 | I didn't hear, are you in favor of a moratorium? | 我没听说,你赞成暂停死刑吗? |
| 381 | My moratorium is local-led, not Lansing-led, so yes, a moratorium on data centers. | 我的暂停是本地主导的,不是兰辛主导的,所以是的,暂停数据中心。 |
| 382 | No new data centers until we have a plan to protect our communities. | 没有新的数据中心,直到我们有一个保护我们社区的计划。 |
| 383 | Well, I wish I had more data center questions, but we got to take a break. | 我希望我有更多的数据中心问题 但我们得休息一下 |
| 384 | It's a short break, and when we return, we're going to be talking about public safety and immigration. | 短暂的休息时间,回来后要谈公共安全和移民问题. |
| 385 | But first, here's a reminder. | 但首先,这里有一个提醒。 |
| 386 | Candidates enter the spin room once our debate concludes. | 辩论结束后,候选人进入旋转室。 |
| 387 | This QR code will take you to our live post-debate coverage, and we'll be back in 70 seconds. | 这个QR代码会带你们去我们现场的 辩论后报道 我们70秒后回来 |
| 388 | It's debate week in Michigan. | 这是辩论周 在密歇根。 |
| 389 | I'm Rick Albin, your moderator for tonight's debate, or sometimes just the guy that sits and listens. | 我是今晚辩论的主持人Rick Albin 或者有时只是那个坐着听的人 |
| 390 | I want to move on to the rest of our questions because there's a lot packed in here. | 我想谈谈我们剩下的问题 因为这里有很多东西 |
| 391 | Secretary Benson, at an education forum, you said that you would use every tool in your toolbox | 本森部长,在一个教育论坛上 你说你会用工具箱里的所有工具 |
| 392 | to prevent federal immigration authorities from entering Michigan schools. | 防止联邦移民局进入密歇根州学校 |
| 393 | Give me a scenario. | 给我个场景 |
| 394 | Say a federal agents have a warrant for a felon, a violent felon, that's in a school. | 说联邦探员对重罪犯有搜查令 暴力重罪犯 在学校里 |
| 395 | Would you stop those agents from going into that school, yes or no, and explain why? | 你能阻止那些特工进入那所学校吗,是还是不是, 并解释为什么? |
| 396 | Well, yeah, certainly protecting the safety of our kids as a mom is critical to me, | 嗯,是的,当然保护我们孩子的安全 作为一个母亲对我至关重要, |
| 397 | and of our teachers, and of everyone in school. | 我们的老师和学校里的每一个人。 |
| 398 | So certainly there's going to be times where there's evidence of a clear and present danger in a school, | 所以肯定有时学校里 有明显的危险 |
| 399 | and we have to allow that to happen. | 我们必须允许这种情况发生。 |
| 400 | But that's actually not what I was talking about in that moment, | 但事实上我当时不是在说这个 |
| 401 | but what we see often happening in schools today. | 但是我们今天经常在学校看到的情况。 |
| 402 | What we're seeing from this president is a use and abuse of federal authority to terrorize communities, | 我们从总统那里看到 利用和滥用联邦权力来恐吓社区 |
| 403 | oftentimes with no evidence of wrongdoing. | 经常没有不当行为的证据。 |
| 404 | And I know, particularly as a mom of a 10-year-old little boy, | 我知道,尤其是作为一个十岁小男孩的妈妈, |
| 405 | spends a lot of time with thinking about the future of our state. | 花很多时间思考我们国家的未来. |
| 406 | The way that that can traumatize a kid and really harm the fabric of a school, | 那种会伤害孩子 真正伤害学校结构的方式 |
| 407 | which are supposed to be safe places for all of our kids, is something that you can't take away. | 这应该是我们所有孩子的安全的地方, 这是你不能带走的。 |
| 408 | And so as governor, I'll be always unafraid to stand up to anyone, anytime, anywhere, | 作为州长,我总是不怕 随时随地与任何人站在一起 |
| 409 | who would harm the safety of our communities, harm the safety of our kids. | 他们会伤害我们社区的安全 伤害我们孩子的安全 |
| 410 | And I will always demand that we protect our kids, | 我会永远要求我们保护我们的孩子, |
| 411 | protect our schools from the abuse or use or overuse of federal authority. | 保护我们的学校不被滥用或使用或过度使用联邦权力。 |
| 412 | Thirty-second follow-up before I move to you, Congressman James. | 詹姆斯议员,在我找你之前 进行32次后续调查 |
| 413 | This is for you, Secretary. | 这是给你的,部长 |
| 414 | ICE has been controversial across the country. | ICE在全国引起争议. |
| 415 | If you're elected governor, what is your approach for working with that federal agency? | 如果你当选州长 你和联邦机构合作的方法是什么? |
| 416 | You have 30 seconds. | 你有30秒钟。 |
| 417 | It all gets down to what does the law say, what does the Constitution require, | 都归根结底 法律怎么说 宪法要求什么 |
| 418 | and ensuring that we don't have masked federal agents coming to our communities, | 并且确保我们没有掩盖 联邦特工来到我们的社区, |
| 419 | murdering innocent civilians, which has actually happened in other states, | 谋杀无辜平民, 发生在其他国家, |
| 420 | and that as governor, you have to be prepared to take on. | 作为州长,你必须做好接班的准备 |
| 421 | And that's why I, as Secretary of State, have been proud to stand up to the President of the United States | 因此我作为国务卿 自豪地向美国总统挺身而出 |
| 422 | when he has used and abused and overused federal authority, broken the law, ignored the Constitution. | 他利用、滥用和过度利用联邦权力,触犯法律,无视宪法。 |
| 423 | And the job of a governor in this moment is to have the moral courage to do just that, | 此时此刻州长的工作 就是有道德勇气去做 |
| 424 | enforce the law, protect our Constitution, protect our kids, | 执法 保护我们的宪法 保护我们的孩子 |
| 425 | and be unafraid to stand up to even the President of the United States if he would violate those principles. | 如果美国总统违反这些原则,就不敢站出来对抗他。 |
| 426 | Congressman, with public safety and immigration being the topic right now, | 议员,公共安全和移民是 现在的主题, |
| 427 | one of your campaign ads says, Michigan will have safe streets on my watch. | 你的竞选广告说 密歇根州会有安全的街道 |
| 428 | I don't care who I have to lock up to make that happen. | 我不在乎我必须锁住谁才能做到这一点。 |
| 429 | And then you go on to promise to get rid of politicians and liberal judges who put violent criminals back on the streets. | 然后,你继续承诺 摆脱政客和自由主义法官 谁把暴力罪犯 回到街头。 |
| 430 | What exactly do you mean when you say you'll get rid of liberal judges? | 你说要摆脱自由派法官是什么意思? |
| 431 | We're going to use checks and balances to make sure that people who are making communities less safe are held accountable by the people. | 我们要运用制衡手段,确保那些使社区更加不安全的人被人民问责. |
| 432 | The judges, activists on the bench, prosecutors, DAs that are continuing to allow people back on the streets to terrorize our families | 法官、法官、检察官、地方检察官 继续允许人们回到街头 恐吓我们的家人 |
| 433 | should be held accountable by the people, and everyone will know the exact people who are holding them and making them less safe. | 人民应该承担责任,每个人都会知道到底是谁在保管他们,使他们更加不安全。 |
| 434 | We also need to make sure that we have community policing. | 我们还需要确保社区维持治安。 |
| 435 | We also need to make sure that we reduce recidivism by having increased economic opportunities | 我们还需要确保通过增加经济机会减少累犯。 |
| 436 | for people who are returning citizens who have paid their debt to society and want to rejoin and be great members of society. | 对那些已经向社会偿还债务、希望重新加入社会并成为社会伟大成员的公民来说。 |
| 437 | At my business, some of our best employees are returning citizens, and we need to make sure we're doing everything we possibly can | 在我的生意上,我们一些最好的员工 正在返回公民, 我们需要确保我们正在尽一切可能 |
| 438 | to have people who are paying their debt to society be able to reintegrate, and so they do not reoffend. | 使那些向社会偿还债务的人能够重返社会,因此不会再次犯罪。 |
| 439 | We need to make sure we're holding activists, judges, DAs, and prosecutors accountable, making our communities less safe, and we absolutely need to support our police. | 我们需要确保我们追究积极分子、法官、地方检察官以及检察官的责任,使我们的社区更加不安全,我们绝对需要支持我们的警察。 |
| 440 | I have a follow-up for you, the same one for the Secretary, and that is ICE has obviously generated a lot of controversy in this country. | 我有一个后续你, 同样的一个为秘书, 这是ICE显然 引起了很多争议 在这个国家。 |
| 441 | If you were elected, what would your approach be to working with that federal agency 30 seconds? | 如果你当选了 你和联邦机构共事30秒的方法是什么? |
| 442 | We're going to be cooperating with federal law enforcement as well as our communities. | 我们将与联邦执法部门以及我们的社区合作。 |
| 443 | We're going to make sure that we're prioritizing violent offenders, and we're going to make sure that we enforce the law. | 要抓好暴力犯罪分子优先抓好执法. |
| 444 | Frankly, I don't believe we're going to need ICE presence in the state of Michigan because we are going to be enforcing the law. | 老实说,我不认为我们需要 ICE的存在 在密歇根州,因为我们要去 执法。 |
| 445 | So again, prioritizing violent offenders, working and abiding by federal law, and coordinating closely with our communities. | 因此,再次将暴力罪犯列为优先事项,遵守和遵守联邦法律,并与我们的社区密切协调。 |
| 446 | I think the question needs to be, what if you disagree with the President and he wants to send in federal agents to harm our communities | 我想问题是 如果你不同意总统的意见 而他想派联邦探员来伤害我们社区 |
| 447 | when you as congressmen have never once stood up to the President and said, not on our watch? | 你们作为国会议员 从未对总统表示过不听话? |
| 448 | I as governor will be proud to protect our communities and work with anyone to get that done, | 作为州长,我将自豪地保护我们的社区 并与任何人合作完成这项工作, |
| 449 | but what we need in the next governor is someone who has the backbone and the moral courage to stand up to the President of the United States, | 但是我们下一任州长需要的 是一个有勇气和道德勇气 能够对抗美国总统的人 |
| 450 | and you have been in Congress for four years and have never done that once. | 而你在国会已经四年了 从来没有这样做过 |
| 451 | How can we trust you as governor to do that if ICE were to come and terrorize our communities? | 如果ICE来恐吓我们的社区 我们怎么能相信你是州长呢? |
| 452 | Congressman James? | 詹姆斯议员? |
| 453 | Well, I've stood up to the President many times. | 好吧,我已经站起来 总统多次。 |
| 454 | I've said that I can agree with the President without worshipping him, I can disagree without attacking him, | 我说,我可以同意总统 不崇拜他,我可以不同意 不攻击他, |
| 455 | and I always put Michigan first. | 我总是把密歇根第一。 |
| 456 | I said that as early as 2017, but she doesn't want you to know that. | 我早在2017年就说过了 但她不想让你知道 |
| 457 | I've also stood up to the President when he said things that were salacious and untrue, | 我也挺身而出 总统说的那些话 既温柔又不真实 |
| 458 | and I've stood up to him recently in his administration with regard to tariffs, and I said this war in Iran needs to end quickly, as in yesterday. | 我最近一直站在他的政府 关于关税, 我说,伊朗这场战争需要迅速结束, 像昨天一样。 |
| 459 | The fact of the matter is she is holding me to a double standard when she has never not once stood up to Gretchen Whitmer before she needed a campaign issue. | 事实是,她一直坚持着双重标准,而她从未在格蕾琴·惠特默需要竞选议题之前,就一直站在她面前。 |
| 460 | 让我们谈谈COVID。 | |
| 461 | Let's talk about the fact that she let Gretchen Whitmer off the hook after that and some of the campaign issues. | 让我们谈谈她让格蕾琴·惠特默在那之后脱钩的事实,以及一些竞选议题. |
| 462 | I'd love to talk about 2020, and I don't know where you were when you needed. | 我很想谈谈2020, 我不知道你在哪里 当你需要。 |
| 463 | Let's do that. | 让我们做到这一点。 |
| 464 | We need to move on. | 我们需要继续前进。 |
| 465 | Let's do that. | 让我们做到这一点。 |
| 466 | Moving on, Michigan's next governor could face a multi-billion dollar Medicaid funding shortfall because of changes in federal law. | 接下去,密歇根的下一任州长可能因为联邦法律的变化而面临数十亿美元的医疗补助资金缺口. |
| 467 | Congressman James, you said rising Medicaid costs are partly attributable to fraud, but that's not going to be enough to make up the shortfall. | 詹姆斯议员,你说医疗补助费用上涨 部分是由于欺诈, 但这不足以弥补短缺。 |
| 468 | So what would you do to keep that solvent? | 那么,你会怎么做 保持溶剂? |
| 469 | Would you choose an option, raise new state revenue or cut spending somewhere else in the budget? | 你会选择一种选择,增加新的国家收入,还是削减预算中其他地方的开支? |
| 470 | You have 60 seconds. | 你有60秒时间。 |
| 471 | Well, the first thing is I made sure that Medicaid spending is increasing every year over the next five years. | 首先,我保证医疗补助计划的开支 在未来五年里每年增加 |
| 472 | I also made sure that pregnant women up to 12 months after people who are frail or sick are elderly people before 19 and people after 64. | 我还确保19岁以下的孕妇和64岁以上的孕妇在身体虚弱或生病后12个月内都是老年人。 |
| 473 | This does not apply. | 这不适用。 |
| 474 | I also made sure that if people in areas that are hardship, that there will be exemptions as governor. | 我还确保,如果在困难地区的人, 将免除作为省长。 |
| 475 | If there's an area that has a hardship and I would apply for that exemption. | 如果有一个地区有困难 我会申请豁免 |
| 476 | But ultimately, Medicaid is extremely important to the state of Michigan. | 但归根结底,Medicaid对密歇根州极为重要. |
| 477 | We must make sure that we protect it for the people it was designed for and prevent people who would steal from the system from benefiting from that. | 我们必须确保我们保护它为人们设计的它,并防止从系统偷盗的人从中获益。 |
| 478 | We would also need to make sure that we're continuing to grow our economy and make sure that we're continuing to leverage all of our resources from the 75 billion dollar budget that we have to make sure that we're taking care of the people who absolutely | 我们还需要确保我们的经济继续增长,确保我们继续从750亿美元的预算中获得我们所有的资源,我们必须确保我们照顾那些绝对是医疗补助的人。 |
| 479 | Secretary Benson, if the federal funding is not there for Medicaid, again, I'll give you the same choices. | 国务卿本森,如果联邦资金不用于医疗援助, 我会给你同样的选择。 |
| 480 | Do you raise revenues or do you cut spending somewhere else? | 你是增加收入还是削减开支? |
| 481 | You have 60 seconds. | 你有60秒时间。 |
| 482 | Well, I think health care, Rick, is the defining issue in this campaign. | 我认为医疗是这场运动的决定性问题 |
| 483 | Just a few months ago, I was in Traverse City and a mom shared with me that she doesn't have enough money to afford the rising premiums for her whole family of six. | 几个月前,我在特拉弗斯城 一个妈妈和我说 她没有足够的钱来支付 她全家六口的保险费 |
| 484 | So she has to choose to only cover her kids for health care and go without health care coverage herself. | 因此,她必须选择只为她的孩子提供保健,而自己不提供保健。 |
| 485 | She is faced with that impossible choice because of my opponent, because he went to Washington and voted three times to increase health care premiums and vote for legislation that kicked hundreds of thousands of Michiganders off of their health care. | 她面临这种不可能的选择,是因为我的对手,因为他去了华盛顿,三次投票提高医疗保险费,并投票支持把数十万密歇根州人赶出医疗的立法. |
| 486 | As governor, I have a plan to fix this. | 作为州长,我有一个计划来解决这个问题。 |
| 487 | I will work to ensure our Department of Health and Human Services is streamlined to make it as easy as possible for people to stay on the benefits they're entitled to under the law. | 我将努力确保我们的卫生和公众服务部精简,使人们尽可能容易地继续享受他们依法应享的福利. |
| 488 | Establish a prescription drug affordability board to lower medicine costs and work to appeal unfair insurance denials so that people can get the coverage they need and not see medical debt rise. | 建立处方药支付能力委员会,降低医药费用,努力对不公平的保险拒付行为提起上诉,使人们能够获得所需的保险,不要看到医疗债务上升。 |
| 489 | But we have to be clear. | 但我们必须清楚。 |
| 490 | We are in this position because of failures at the federal level from my opponent to support efforts to fund health care and instead voting multiple times to raise health care premiums on the people. | 我们之所以处于这一地位,是因为我的对手未能在联邦一级支持为保健供资的努力,而是多次投票提高人民的保健保险费。 |
| 491 | She's lying. | 她在撒谎。 |
| 492 | These things haven't even gone into effect yet. | 这些东西还没有生效 |
| 493 | And she knows it. | 她知道这一点。 |
| 494 | And I just said that where there are exceptions that are required, I will apply for the exception. | 我只是说,如果有例外需要,我将申请例外。 |
| 495 | She's she's using numbers and not telling you where she got them from because she's she's peddling on fear. | 她用的是数字,没有告诉你 她从哪里得到的,因为她是 热衷于恐惧。 |
| 496 | The fact of the matter is Medicaid will not be taken away from people who are working at least 80 hours. | 事实是,医疗补助不会从至少工作80小时的人手中夺走。 |
| 497 | Medicaid is not going to be taken away from caregivers and people who need it. | 医疗补助不会从照顾者和需要的人手中夺走。 |
| 498 | Medicaid is vital. | 医疗补助至关重要。 |
| 499 | Medicaid will be protected. | 医疗补助会受到保护。 |
| 500 | My my very first bill in Congress is actually protecting Medicare and Social Security. | 我在国会的第一个法案 是保护医疗和社会保障。 |
| 501 | I understand how important this is and I'll continue to support that as governor. | 我知道这有多重要 我将继续作为州长支持你 |
| 502 | Congressman, the big, beautiful bill that you voted in support of is designed to make it harder for people to stay on Medicaid and get the health care coverage that they're entitled to. | 议员,你投票支持的大而美丽的法案 旨在让人们更难 留在医疗补助 并获得他们有权获得的医疗保险。 |
| 503 | The job of the next governor is going to be to ensure that despite those bills that you voted for, despite the fact that you voted not once, not twice, but three times to raise health care costs on the people of Michigan. | 下一任州长的工作就是确保 尽管你投了那些法案 尽管你没有投过一次票 不是两次 而是三次投票 提高密歇根州的医疗费用 |
| 504 | The next governor, as I will do, will ensure that the Health and Human Services is on the side of the people, making it as seamless as possible for people to stay covered despite all the changes that you have supported at the federal level. | 下一任州长,正如我将做的那样,将确保卫生与公众服务站在人民一边,使人们能够尽可能无缝地保持覆盖,尽管你在联邦一级支持了各种变化。 |
| 505 | That's going to make it harder for them to get the coverage they need. | 这会使他们更难得到他们需要的覆盖. |
| 506 | Again, it is I would love to say on this and we can stay another hour if you want to. | 再说一遍,我很想说 如果你想的话 我们可以再呆一个小时 |
| 507 | But we've got other things we need to move to. | 但我们还有别的事要处理 |
| 508 | Let's talk a little bit about a controversy that kind of came out of nowhere, at least for me, and it's flock cameras, these cameras that are being put up all over the place. | 让我们来谈谈一个争议, 那种来源于无端, 至少对我来说, 它是羊群摄像头, 这些摄像头 被放置在各地。 |
| 509 | And in community after community, conversations are being held to determine how, why, and if these devices should be used. | 在社区之后,我们举行对话,以确定这些设备应如何使用、为何使用以及是否使用。 |
| 510 | So my question, Secretary Benson, is should the state put guardrails on these things or is that a local issue? | 所以,本森国务卿,我的问题是,国家应该对这些事情设置警戒,还是地方性的问题? |
| 511 | It's 60 seconds for you. | 给你60秒 |
| 512 | Yes, the state should put guardrails on the use and abuse of any technology that would harm the privacy of our residents, especially in a situation like this where so many local communities have raised concerns. | 国家应该设置护栏, 禁止使用和滥用任何会损害我们居民隐私的技术, |
| 513 | And we've even begun to see the potential abuse of this data by local communities. | 我们甚至开始看到 这些数据可能被当地社区滥用。 |
| 514 | But that's also why it's important to preserve local control in making those decisions as well. | 但这也是为什么在做出这些决定时必须保持当地控制. |
| 515 | As governor, I will be a partner to local communities to ensure we're protecting the privacy of our residents, that we're eliminating the potential for abuse of any type of technology. | 作为州长,我将成为当地社区的合作伙伴,以确保我们保护我们居民的隐私,确保我们消除滥用任何类型技术的可能性. |
| 516 | As Secretary of State, I've had to do this when it comes to technology and AI in our elections. | 作为国务大臣,我不得不在我们的选举中在技术和AI问题上这样做. |
| 517 | Under my leadership, we became one of the first states in the nation to enact guardrails over the use of AI in our elections. | 在我的领导下,我们成为全国最早在选举中使用AI的州之一。 |
| 518 | That's the same type of leadership I'll bring to the governor's office. | 那是我带给州长办公室的同样的领导 |
| 519 | And again, it's in sharp contrast to my opponent, who has voted four times to block local communities from having any say in technology like this. | 同样,这与我的对手形成鲜明对比, 我的对手已经投票四次, 阻止当地社区对这样的技术有任何发言权。 |
| 520 | In issues like flock cameras, this only underscores the importance of protecting those local controls and the critical role that states have to play in providing those guardrails as well. | 在诸如羊群摄像头等问题上,这只能强调保护这些地方控制的重要性,以及国家在提供这些护栏方面必须发挥的关键作用。 |
| 521 | Congressman, should the state provide some guardrails or is it a local issue? | 议员,国家应该提供一些护卫 还是地方问题? |
| 522 | 60 seconds. | 60秒钟。 |
| 523 | Maybe I should just start throwing out random numbers, Rick. | 也许我应该开始扔出随机数字,瑞克。 |
| 524 | Okay, here's a random number that's extremely important. | 好吧,这是一个随机数字 这是非常重要的。 |
| 525 | A non-random number is extremely important. | 非随机数字极为重要。 |
| 526 | Our Fourth Amendment is non-negotiable. | 我们的第四修正案是不容谈判的。 |
| 527 | The right to privacy is a constitutional right, and I will protect that as governor. | 隐私权是一项宪法权利,我将作为州长保护这项权利。 |
| 528 | Yes, we need to make sure that our communities are safe, we will protect local control, but we absolutely must protect our constitutional rights. | 是的,我们需要确保我们社区的安全,我们将保护地方控制,但我们绝对必须保护我们的宪法权利。 |
| 529 | I swear an oath to the Constitution, and I'm duty-bound to make sure that I do that as the next governor. | 我向宪法宣誓 我有义务确保我做下一任州长 |
| 530 | All right, we're going to move on to another subject that is, well, it's somewhat tied to earlier when we were talking about the gas tax. | 好吧,我们接下来再谈另一个话题, 也就是,嗯,这和早些时候我们讨论天然气税时有些关系。 |
| 531 | And if that gas tax should be paused, it's obviously going to have an impact on road funds. | 如果天然气税被暂停, 它显然会影响公路资金。 |
| 532 | And that's been a mantra for this previous or the current administration for eight years, fixing the roads. | 这已经是过去或现在政府八年的口号了, 修整了道路。 |
| 533 | But it has also been suggested that the tax on marijuana that was designed to help pay for part of that road work should also be eliminated. | 但也有人建议,还应取消旨在帮助支付部分公路工程费用的大麻税。 |
| 534 | So my question is, starting with you, Congressman James, is cutting the marijuana tax a good idea? | 所以,我的问题是,从你开始,议员詹姆斯, 削减大麻税是一个好主意吗? |
| 535 | And if it is, how do we keep paying to fix local roads? | 如果是这样,我们如何继续花钱修路? |
| 536 | You have 60 seconds. | 你有60秒时间。 |
| 537 | Well, of course, we shouldn't be targeting businesses. | 当然,我们不应该以企业为目标。 |
| 538 | Frankly, I don't like targeting any business, and we need to look at the ways that we can cut taxes across the board. | 坦率地说,我不喜欢把任何生意作为目标,我们需要研究一下我们如何能全面削减税收. |
| 539 | We also need to take a look at the way roads are funded, looking at the reforms for Public Act 51 that was put in place in 1951. | 我们还需要审视道路的供资方式,审视1951年出台的《第51号公共法》的改革。 |
| 540 | We need to make sure that we're funding our roads and coming up with how we fix them more adequately. | 我们需要确保我们资助我们的道路 并找到我们如何更充分地修复它们。 |
| 541 | We also need to make sure that EVs are paying their fair share, because they're not even paying the gas tax at all. | 我们还需要确保EVs支付公平份额,因为他们甚至根本不支付天然气税. |
| 542 | We need to make sure that some of these heavier cars are shouldering some of the burden. | 我们需要确保这些较重的汽车中有一些承担着一些负担. |
| 543 | Yes, I'm a proponent of cutting taxes without cutting vital services, and we have funds left over, 500 million, I believe, MEDC, for temporary suspension of the gas tax. | 是的,我主张在不削减重要服务的情况下削减税收, 而且我们还有5亿, 我相信,MEDC, 用于暂停天然气税。 |
| 544 | They give people relief as they go into the holiday season. | 他们进入节日季节时给人以宽慰. |
| 545 | But yes, when we have time to look back under the hood, we will take a look at the $75 billion budget, effectively over $80 billion. | 但是,是的,当我们有时间回顾一下罩下的情况时,我们将看看750亿美元的预算,实际上超过800亿美元。 |
| 546 | And we will find more money to bring value to the people of the state of Michigan because we're already paying too many taxes. | 我们会找到更多的钱给密歇根州人民带来价值,因为我们已经交了太多税。 |
| 547 | Senator Benson, is cutting the marijuana tax a good idea? | 参议员本森, 削减大麻税是一个好主意吗? |
| 548 | 60 seconds. | 60秒钟。 |
| 549 | Well, look, our tax code in Michigan is filled with loopholes for the wealthy and well-connected. | 我们密歇根州的税则 充满了富人和有良好联系者的漏洞 |
| 550 | For example, we all pay this gas tax we've talked about, but you know, if you own a private plane, you don't have to pay a tax on that fuel. | 比如说,我们都付了我们讨论过的煤气税, 但是,你知道,如果你拥有私人飞机, 你不必支付燃料税。 |
| 551 | So the next governor needs to, as I will do, do a wholesale review of how we're generating revenue into the state | 因此,下任州长需要,我将做, 做一个批量审查 我们如何创造收入 进入州 |
| 552 | to ensure we're modernizing our tax code and eliminating a lot of these loopholes. | 确保税法现代化 并消除很多漏洞 |
| 553 | And it really underscores why you need a governor who's going to be data-driven, as I am, solution-oriented, as I am, | 这确实凸显了为什么你需要一位州长 以数据为导向,像我一样,以解决方案为导向,像我一样, |
| 554 | but also not committed to doing the bidding of corporations or any one entity. | 但不承诺向公司或任何实体投标。 |
| 555 | My opponent has taken hundreds of thousands of dollars in corporate PAC money from pharmaceutical companies, for example, | 我的对手从制药公司拿了数十万美金 |
| 556 | and then turned around and cut their taxes 40 percent, giving them a $50 billion tax break. | 然后转过身来削减40%的税收 给他们500亿美元的税收减免 |
| 557 | That type of leadership shows that that's not the right leadership we need here in Michigan | 这种类型的领导表明,这不是我们在密歇根州所需要的正确领导 |
| 558 | that we'll be required to, as I will do as governor, look at our entire tax code through the lens of what is best for the people, | 正如我作为州长所做的那样 从对人民最有利的角度审视整个税法 |
| 559 | what is best for the middle class. | 这对中产阶级最好 |
| 560 | Yes, we need to do more with less and cut our budget, as I've done as Secretary of State in my own agency. | 是的,我们需要做更多 用更少,削减我们的预算, 正如我做国务卿在我的机构。 |
| 561 | But by cutting wasteful spending, we'll also review how we raise revenue in the state to ensure we are doing everything we can to save taxpayer dollars. | 但是,通过削减浪费性开支,我们也会审查我们如何在州内增加收入,以确保我们尽力节省纳税人的美元. |
| 562 | Your husband made as much of that in his personal income last year. | 你丈夫去年用个人收入赚了那么多钱 |
| 563 | You left that omitted in 2025. | 你在2025年忘了这个 |
| 564 | You've also made millions of dollars going out to California, dragging that money back here to throw lies up on air about me and my record | 你还赚了上百万美元去加州 把钱拖回这里 来播报我和我的唱片 |
| 565 | because you don't have one of your own. | 因为你没有自己的 |
| 566 | Frankly, if you want to talk about somebody who's been bought | 老实说 如果你想谈谈有人被收买 |
| 567 | is somebody right now who's spending tens of millions of dollars right now to cover over her terrible record | 这个人现在花费了几千万美元 来掩盖她的糟糕记录 |
| 568 | and the fact that her family bulldozed Celine. | 还有她家人用推土机推倒Celine的事实 |
| 569 | Go and take a look at it. | 上前观之. |
| 570 | Take a look at her record. | 看一下她的记录。 |
| 571 | The fact of the matter is she has been bought and sold by the California elite. | 事实是她已经被加州精英们买卖. |
| 572 | She is not from here. | 她不是这里的人 |
| 573 | She does not care about here. | 她不在乎这里。 |
| 574 | And you see it in everything that she has failed to do over the past eight years. | 你从她过去八年未能做到的一切中看到这一点。 |
| 575 | There were a lot of things packed up in both of those statements. | 这些发言中有许多内容。 |
| 576 | I'm going to give you 15 seconds. | 我给你15秒 |
| 577 | And then we're going to move on. | 后依前进. |
| 578 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 579 | All my personal finances have been disclosed. | 我所有的个人财务都被披露了 |
| 580 | My family's personal finances have been disclosed. | 我家个人财务被披露. |
| 581 | And you can go to the personal financial disclosure portal at Michigan dot gov slash SOS to see exactly that. | 你可以去密歇根州Dot gov的 个人财务披露门户 查看一下 |
| 582 | But yes, it is. | 但没错 |
| 583 | It's always been working, actually. | 实际上它一直有效 |
| 584 | But in addition to that, my opponent has actually been fined for not disclosing things. | 但除此之外,我的对手实际上因为没有披露事情而被罚款. |
| 585 | And you still haven't asked answered, Congressman, why you took three hundred thousand dollars in corporate packed money from pharmaceutical companies | 议员先生,你还没回答 为什么从制药公司拿了30万美金 |
| 586 | and turned around and cut their taxes. | 并转身削减他们的税收。 |
| 587 | I haven't taken personal money from these pharmaceutical companies. | 我没有从这些制药公司拿私人钱 |
| 588 | That's ridiculous. | 这太荒谬了 |
| 589 | Frankly, I believe very strongly my patients deserve price tags that will increase transparency and lower costs for everyone | 老实说,我坚信,我的病人应该得到价格标签,增加透明度,降低每个人的成本。 |
| 590 | so that we don't keep shoveling Michigan taxpayer dollars at rich hospitals and insurance companies at the people's expense. | 这样我们就不会在有钱的医院和保险公司 以人民为代价 继续铲密歇根州纳税人的钱 |
| 591 | Let's move on to another subject that is really important to a lot of people, and that's affordable housing. | 我们继续探讨另一个对很多人都很重要的课题, 那就是经济适用住房。 |
| 592 | We know affordable housing is hard to find. | 我们知道难以找到负担得起的住房。 |
| 593 | There are a lot of reasons for that. | 原因很多。 |
| 594 | But one of them could be that the state regulations add sometimes as much as 25 percent to the cost of a new home. | 但其中之一可能是,国家条例有时会增加25%的新住房成本。 |
| 595 | So Secretary Benson, as governor, would you be willing to get rid of or reduce the regulations that make those houses cost more? | 所以作为州长的本森国务卿 你愿意废除或减少 使这些房子更昂贵的规定吗? |
| 596 | You have 60 seconds. | 你有60秒时间。 |
| 597 | Yes. | 对 |
| 598 | I mean, it's not lost on me that it can cost over one hundred thousand dollars to build a home in Michigan before you even put a brick in the ground. | 我的意思是,它不会失去我 它可以花费超过10万美元 在密歇根州建造一个房子 你甚至把一块砖块在地上。 |
| 599 | And so we absolutely need to streamline how housing is built. | 所以我们绝对需要简化住房的建造方式。 |
| 600 | That's why my plan for affordable housing has three pieces to it. | 这就是为什么我的经济适用住房计划 有三个方面。 |
| 601 | Streamlining how homes are built, eliminating a lot of those construction obstructions that stand in the way. | 简化房屋的建造方式,消除许多妨碍施工的障碍。 |
| 602 | Also providing support for first and second time homeowners and nurses and teachers and farmers and others who are moving to these communities and need an affordable place to live. | 还支助第一次和第二次住家、护士、教师、农民和其他迁移到这些社区并需要负担得起的住所的人。 |
| 603 | But we'll also hold accountable the bad actors that are buying up properties and jacking up rents and other prices that makes oftentimes housing unaffordable. | 但我们也会追究那些买房和抢租的坏角色的责任 以及经常造成住房负担不起的其他价格。 |
| 604 | And and we have to recognize I was in Muskegon just the other day talking to someone I'm trying to get to bring jobs to Muskegon. | 我们必须承认我那天在穆斯凯贡 和我想给穆斯凯贡带来工作的人谈话 |
| 605 | And I said, what's it going to take to bring your company to Muskegon? | 我说,要怎么才能把你的公司带到穆斯凯贡? |
| 606 | And he said, all I need is affordable housing. | 他说,我只需要买得起的住房。 |
| 607 | So I met with an affordable housing developer in Muskegon and I said, what's it going to take for you to build more homes? | 所以我在Muskegon遇到一个负担得起的住房开发商 我说,你需要什么来建造更多的住房? |
| 608 | And he said, these tariffs with Canada are driving up the cost of every supply, lumber, copper, everything else and created uncertainty. | 他说,这些与加拿大的关税 正在提高每个供应的成本, 木材,铜,其他一切, 并造成了不确定性。 |
| 609 | We have to do away with these tariffs to build more affordable housing in Michigan. | 我们必须取消这些关税,以便在密歇根州建造更廉价的住房。 |
| 610 | My opponent supports these tariffs. | 我的对手支持这些关税。 |
| 611 | I will do away with them. | 我会除掉他们 |
| 612 | Congressman, same question. | 议员,同样的问题。 |
| 613 | As governor, would you look at these regulations that cost extra money to homebuilders and consequently to those of us who buy those homes and try to make housing more affordable? | 作为州长,你能否看看这些条例,这些条例花费额外的资金给房屋建造者,从而给那些购买这些房屋并试图使住房更廉价的人? |
| 614 | You have 60 seconds. | 你有60秒时间。 |
| 615 | I literally have a bill that's going to protect our supply chain, protect our job and lower costs. | 我确实有个法案要保护我们的供应链 保护我们的工作 降低成本 |
| 616 | And all she's doing is talking. | 她只会说话 |
| 617 | She hasn't had the opportunity to develop the skill set to understand what it takes to develop this state. | 她还没有机会发展技能 来理解发展这种状态需要什么 |
| 618 | Frankly, she says that Whitmer is a great policymaker when literally the fact that we have more expensive housing and rent in the state of Michigan is because of the terrible prices that make it more expensive to build a house here. | 老实说,她说惠特默是一个伟大的决策者, 而实际上,我们在密歇根州有比较昂贵的住房和租金, 是因为可怕的价格, 使得在这里建造房子更加昂贵。 |
| 619 | And then before I put the shovel in the ground over one hundred thousand dollars, I have actually worked on a path to affordable housing. | 然后,在我把铲子放入地里 超过10万美元之前, 我确实在寻找经济适用住房的道路上工作。 |
| 620 | That is what we are doing. | 这就是我们正在做的。 |
| 621 | Moving that through the house and also rolling back harmful regulations that make it more difficult. | 穿过这房子, 并滚动回有害的规章 使它更困难。 |
| 622 | We also need to increase our workforce development. | 我们还需要增加劳动力发展。 |
| 623 | We need to make sure that we're getting more labor to the front. | 我们需要确保我们得到更多的劳动力到前线。 |
| 624 | We need to reform our laws that make it more difficult to grow opportunity and jobs and have everybody to assess them. | 我们需要改革我们的法律,使增加机会和就业机会更加困难,并使所有人都能评估。 |
| 625 | These are the types of things that leadership bring and a governor will bring to make sure that everybody can experience prosperity as well as better housing prices. | 这些是领导带来和省长带来的东西,以确保每个人都能经历繁荣和更好的住房价格。 |
| 626 | All right, Congress and James, this goes first to you for 60 seconds from tornadoes to ice storms to dams failing to flooding and a polar vortex. | 好吧,国会和詹姆斯,这首先给你60秒 从龙卷风到冰暴 到水坝失败到洪水和极地漩涡。 |
| 627 | Michigan has seen what feels like an abundance of natural disasters in the last few years. | 密歇根州在过去几年里 看到了许多自然灾害 |
| 628 | As governor, what would you do to help prepare the state for the aftermath of such events? | 作为州长,你会做什么来帮助国家 为此类事件的后果做好准备? |
| 629 | You have 60 seconds. | 你有60秒时间。 |
| 630 | We absolutely need to make sure that we are getting away from Public Act 235, which is siphoning money away from the people. | 我们绝对需要确保我们摆脱第235号公共法案,该法案正在向人民吞噬资金。 |
| 631 | And you have these massive utility companies that are spending billions of dollars at the expense of the people. | 你们这些庞大的公用事业公司 花费了数十亿美元 牺牲人民的利益。 |
| 632 | And they should be putting that into distribution. | 他们应该把这个放进去。 |
| 633 | Fifty percent of every dollar is spent on distribution, and we need to make sure that we're making that more resilient. | 每美元有50%花在分配上, 我们需要确保我们 使这个更具有弹性。 |
| 634 | We also need to cooperate with our friends in Canada. | 我们还需要与在加拿大的朋友合作。 |
| 635 | When you look at these ice storms, it caused a lot of dry tinder up in the northern areas, and that's just ripe for forest fires. | 当你看到这些冰暴时, 它在北部地区引起大量干燥的锡条, 这才刚刚成熟的森林火灾。 |
| 636 | We also need to make sure that we're investing in our underground infrastructure. | 我们还需要确保我们正在投资我们的地下基础设施。 |
| 637 | Being in southeast Michigan, I've gotten millions of dollars for underground infrastructure already delivering for the people of the state of Michigan. | 在密歇根州东南部, 我得到了数百万美元 用于地下基础设施 已经交付给密歇根州人民。 |
| 638 | So that when we have these floods, you don't have highways flooded out and people's basements flooded out. | 所以,当我们有这些洪水, 你没有高速公路淹没 和人们的地下室淹没。 |
| 639 | These are the types of things that we can make sure that we're increasing the resilience of the state of Michigan and things that I've already delivered on and I will continue to deliver on as governor. | 这些是我们能确保我们提高密歇根州复原力的事物类型, 以及我已经交付的,我将继续作为州长交付的事物。 |
| 640 | Secretary Benson, same question. | 秘书本森,同样的问题。 |
| 641 | We've had all these natural disasters and it feels like we need to do something or I'll put it another way. | 我们遭遇了这些自然灾害 觉得我们需要做点什么 不然我换种方式 |
| 642 | Should we be doing more to be prepared? | 我们应该做更多的准备吗? |
| 643 | You have 60 seconds. | 你有60秒时间。 |
| 644 | Yeah, I think it's very clear that the natural disasters you mentioned are a direct result of climate change and Michigan has an opportunity to lead on that area. | 是的,我认为很显然,你提到的自然灾害 是气候变化的直接结果 密歇根州有机会领导这个领域。 |
| 645 | As governor, I want to grow the area of our economy that's investing in clean energy jobs and climate technology. | 作为州长,我想扩大我们的经济领域 投资清洁能源工作和气候技术。 |
| 646 | That will not only create more well-paying jobs here in Michigan and invest in a growing economy. | 这不仅会在密歇根州创造薪酬更高的工作机会,并投资于不断增长的经济。 |
| 647 | It also put Michigan in a leadership position to be solving these problems for the globe. | 这也使密歇根州处于领导地位,能够为全球解决这些问题. |
| 648 | And isn't that who we are in Michigan? | 这不是我们在密歇根州的人吗? |
| 649 | We solve these problems and we lead the nation. | 我们解决这些问题,领导国家。 |
| 650 | We lead the globe. | 我们领导全球。 |
| 651 | This is our opportunity in Michigan and I will invest in these opportunities as governor to grow our clean energy and climate tech economy so that we're creating jobs and we're partnering with our research universities as well to be preventative as well a | 这是我们在密歇根州的机会,我将投资这些机会 作为州长来发展我们的清洁能源和气候技术经济, 这样我们就能创造就业, 并且我们和我们的研究型大学合作, 在应对气候变化方面是预防性的和面向解决方案的。 |
| 652 | And what happens from it? | 怎么样? |
| 653 | I've also released a plan for improving our environment and taking on polluters and others that are driving up costs. | 我还发布了一个改善我们环境的计划, 并承担污染者和其他导致成本上升的人。 |
| 654 | Folks can go to Jocelyn Benson dot com to see my entire plan for improving our environment, addressing climate change and taking on these disasters before they occur. | 人们可以去Jocelyn Benson dot com看看我的整个计划,改善我们的环境,应对气候变化,并在这些灾害发生之前承担这些灾害。 |
| 655 | Candidates, I have to ask you to stay with the times on this next question. | 候选人们,我必须请你们在下一个问题上 和时间在一起 |
| 656 | We are at the end of the debate and we want to get to the closing statements. | 我们即将结束辩论,我们想做最后发言。 |
| 657 | So here we go. | 我们开始吧 |
| 658 | Secretary Benson, after winning the Democratic nomination, you said, quote, Michigan deserves a governor who answers to the people, not corporations. | 国务卿本森,在赢得民主党提名后,你说,引文指出,密歇根州应该有一个向人民负责的州长,而不是公司。 |
| 659 | We're talking about who do you work for? | 我们在谈论你为谁工作? |
| 660 | Name one significant policy or decision by Governor Whitmer where you believe she didn't listen to the people. | 说说惠特默州长的重要政策或决定 在那里你相信她不听人民的话 |
| 661 | You have 60 seconds. | 你有60秒时间。 |
| 662 | Well, you know, Governor Whitmer is a policy maker. | 惠特默州长是个决策者 |
| 663 | I'm an administrator and where I think we need to listen to the people and is a way to improve our Department of Health and Human Services, much like I've done at the Department of State, to streamline access to health care and make it as easy as possible | 我是一个行政管理者,在那里我认为我们需要倾听人民的意见,是改进我们卫生与公众服务部的一种方法,就像我在国务院做过的那样,精简获得医疗保健的机会,使人们尽可能容易地获得医疗保健,这样,人人都能负担得起和获得. |
| 664 | We also need to invest in mental health care, both through that agency. | 我们还需要通过该机构投资于精神保健。 |
| 665 | I know every community I go to, I hear about the need to ensure mental health care is provided. | 我知道每个我去过的社区,我听说需要确保提供精神保健。 |
| 666 | And one thing I will do at our Department of Health and Human Services is ensure as an administrator providing that support while also taking on the pharmaceutical companies that are driving up our costs, establishing a prescription drug affordability boa | 在卫生与公众服务部,我将做的一件事是确保作为一个管理员 提供这种支持 同时接管那些 驱动我们成本的制药公司, 建立一个处方药支付能力委员会 来降低医药成本, 并授权卫生与公众服务部 接管保险公司 错误地拒绝索赔 这样我们就可以与密歇根州人民站在一起 这样他们就不会承担医疗债务。 |
| 667 | Thank you very much, Congressman James. | 非常感谢,詹姆斯议员 |
| 668 | When you launched your campaign for governor, you said this, President Trump and I have been in each other's corner through thick and thin for eight years. | 当你为州长发起竞选时 你这么说的 川普总统和我八年来 一直在对方的角落里 |
| 669 | There will inevitably be times when the interest of Michigan and the priorities of the White House don't align. | 密歇根州的利益和白宫的重中之重将不可避免地会出现不协调的时期. |
| 670 | Name one significant policy President Trump supports that you oppose and that you think is wrong for Michigan. | 说一个重要的政策 川普总统支持你反对 你觉得对密歇根是错的 |
| 671 | 60 seconds, please. | 60秒,请。 |
| 672 | I said that the war in Iran needs to be over yesterday. | 我说,伊朗的战争需要昨天结束。 |
| 673 | Yes, I applaud the administration for using every economic and every diplomatic resource at their disposal. | 是的,我赞扬行政部门利用了它们所拥有的一切经济和外交资源。 |
| 674 | Iran cannot have a nuke, but we need to wrap this thing up like yesterday. | 伊朗不能有核武器,但我们需要像昨天那样把这件事情结束。 |
| 675 | As somebody who's been to war and actually been shot at, I understand the toll and the price of war. | 作为曾经参战并被枪决的人,我理解战争的代价和代价. |
| 676 | We need to make sure that we're ending war. | 我们要确保战争结束 |
| 677 | I hate war, and I would work with the president, of course, to do what we can to make sure that we end that not waiting until I'm governor, but making sure we're continuing to learn more and use whatever checks and balance power that we have to bring this | 我恨战争,我愿意与总统合作, 当然,我愿意尽力确保我们结束那种状态, 不等到我成为州长, 而是确保我们继续学习更多的东西, 并利用一切我们必需的制衡力量来迅速结束这场战争。 |
| 678 | Okay, first of all, thank you for standing here for an hour and answering some really tough questions. | 首先,谢谢你在这里站了一个小时 回答一些非常棘手的问题 |
| 679 | Some of these might be tough, too, but they're 30 seconds. | 其中一些可能也很困难,但只有30秒。 |
| 680 | Congressman James, what is your favorite vacation spot in Michigan? | 詹姆斯议员 你在密歇根州最喜欢的度假地点是什么? |
| 681 | Oh, wow. | 哦,哇呜。 |
| 682 | I'm not going to tell you that because everybody will go. | 我不会告诉你,因为每个人都会去。 |
| 683 | Well, actually, my favorite spot is actually at home. | 其实我最喜欢的地方是家里 |
| 684 | I don't get to see my kids enough, and so wherever they are. | 我无法见到我的孩子,所以无论他们在哪里。 |
| 685 | But Glen Arbor is pretty cool, too. | 但格伦·阿伯也很酷 |
| 686 | I'm a youper. | 我是一个年轻。 |
| 687 | I love Marquette. | 我爱马奎特 |
| 688 | It's my favorite place to run. | 我最喜欢跑步的地方 |
| 689 | I have family there. | 我有一个家庭在那里。 |
| 690 | My husband's mom was raised there. | 我丈夫的妈妈在那里长大。 |
| 691 | I think Marquette and everywhere in the Upper Peninsula is one of the best-kept secrets of our state, and I'm a Lake Superior girl, got engaged on Isle Royale. | 我觉得马奎特和上半岛的任何地方 是我们州最保守的秘密之一 而我是索里尔湖的女孩 在皇家岛订婚了 |
| 692 | So I love that part of the state, but obviously every part of our state is beautiful. | 所以我喜欢这个州 但显然我们州的每一部分都很美 |
| 693 | Good. | 不错 |
| 694 | You got a chance to decompress there a little bit. | 你有机会去解压 |
| 695 | Thank you both. | 谢谢你们 |
| 696 | We've come to the end of this program, and I thank you for being here. | 我们结束了这个计划,我感谢你来到这里。 |
| 697 | Each one of you will have 30 seconds to wrap up our debate, beginning with you, Congressman James, 30 seconds. | 你们每个人都有30秒的时间结束我们的辩论, 从你们开始,詹姆斯议员,30秒。 |
| 698 | Oh, thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 699 | Well, I appreciate your time in participating because this is not a spectator sport. | 我很感激你抽时间参加 因为这不是观众运动 |
| 700 | It's up to you. | 由你决定. |
| 701 | Michigan needs change. | 密歇根州需要改变。 |
| 702 | I'm a combat veteran who understands what it takes to bring people together to accomplish tough and dangerous missions. | 我是一个战斗老兵,他明白 需要什么 团结人们 完成艰难和危险的任务。 |
| 703 | I don't care what political party you're from. | 我不管你来自哪个政党 |
| 704 | I will always serve you. | 我会永远为你服务。 |
| 705 | I'm a business leader who understands what it takes to actually create jobs and actually grow our economy, and I recognize that economic development is not about brick and mortar. | 我是一个商业领袖,他明白要真正创造就业机会和真正发展我们的经济需要什么,我承认经济发展不是砖块和迫击炮。 |
| 706 | It's about flesh and blood. | 关乎骨肉. |
| 707 | It's about you. | 这是关于你的。 |
| 708 | I'm a congressman who's worked with everybody across the aisle to deliver, and I'll continue to deliver as your governor. | 我是一个议员,他和大家一起在过道上工作 以交付,我将继续交付 作为你的州长。 |
| 709 | Secretary Benson, 30 seconds, please. | 本森部长,30秒。 |
| 710 | Well, the choice in this race is simple. | 这场比赛的选择很简单 |
| 711 | Who do you want the next governor to work for? | 你想让下一任州长为谁工作? |
| 712 | I will work for you, and my opponent has already showed us that he won't, because as governor, he'll do exactly what he did in Congress. | 我会为你工作,我的对手已经向我们表明他不会,因为作为州长,他会做他在国会所做的一切. |
| 713 | Raise your prices, get rich, and do everything Donald Trump asks him to do. | 提高价格,发财,做唐纳德·特朗普要求他做的事. |
| 714 | So if you like gas pushing $5 a gallon or mortgage rates over 7% or tariffs taxing just about everything we pay for, then John James is your guy. | 所以,如果你喜欢天然气推 5美元一加仑或抵押利率 超过7%或关税征税 仅仅关于我们支付的一切, 那么约翰詹姆斯是你的家伙。 |
| 715 | But if you're like me and believe we can drive down costs in the state of Michigan, grow our economy, raise wages, and end corruption, then I ask for your vote and your support so we can make Michigan the best place in the nation to call home. | 但是如果你像我一样,相信 我们可以降低密歇根州的成本, 发展我们的经济,提高工资, 结束腐败, 那么,我要求你的投票 和你的支持, |
| 716 | Candidates, thank you very much for being here, and thanks to everybody who's watching, to our broadcast partners. | 候选人们,非常感谢你们来到这里, 感谢大家的观看,感谢我们的广播合作伙伴。 |
| 717 | And don't forget, both candidates will be going into the spin room with post-debate reaction. | 别忘了,两位候选人都会带着辩论后的反应进入旋转室. |
| 718 | You can view that by scanning the QR code on your screen. | 您可以通过扫描屏幕上的 QR 代码来查看 。 |
| 719 | Again, thank you for being here, and thank you very much for a very entertaining hour. | 再次感谢你们来到这里,并非常感谢你们有一个非常愉快的时刻。 |
| 720 | Good night from Grand Rapids. | 晚安,从大拉皮兹。 |
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