川普儿媳劳拉专访参议院多数党领袖约翰图恩 | 2025.5.
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| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
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| 0:04 | Welcome back to MyView. | 欢迎回到我的维尤 |
| 0:06 | In Washington, where gridlock often stalls progress, Senate Majority | 在华盛顿,僵局往往阻碍进步,参议院多数议员 |
| 0:10 | Leader John Thune is setting a new pace. | 约翰领导人 Thune正在设定一个新的速度。 |
| 0:13 | Known as the fastest man in Congress, Thune is not | 作为国会最快的人 Thune不是 |
| 0:16 | only expediting confirmations of President Trump's nominees, but also forging a united | 只加速确认特朗普总统的提名人选, 同时也形成一个团结 |
| 0:21 | front with the House to overcome Democrat opposition. | 对抗民主党的反对 |
| 0:24 | From border security to unleashing | 从边境安全到释放 |
| 0:26 | American energy dominance, Leader Thune tells me it's all about keeping the legislature | 美国能源主导, Thune 领袖告诉我,一切是为了保持立法机构 |
| 0:31 | in lockstep with the president's vision. | 与总统的远见一致 |
| 0:35 | Leader Thune, thank you for sitting down with us. | 组长 Thune 谢谢你和我们坐在一起 |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
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| 1 | Welcome back to MyView. | 欢迎回到我的维尤 |
| 2 | In Washington, where gridlock often stalls progress, Senate Majority | 在华盛顿,僵局往往阻碍进步,参议院多数议员 |
| 3 | Leader John Thune is setting a new pace. | 约翰领导人 Thune正在设定一个新的速度。 |
| 4 | Known as the fastest man in Congress, Thune is not | 作为国会最快的人 Thune不是 |
| 5 | only expediting confirmations of President Trump's nominees, but also forging a united | 只加速确认特朗普总统的提名人选, 同时也形成一个团结 |
| 6 | front with the House to overcome Democrat opposition. | 对抗民主党的反对 |
| 7 | From border security to unleashing | 从边境安全到释放 |
| 8 | American energy dominance, Leader Thune tells me it's all about keeping the legislature | 美国能源主导, Thune 领袖告诉我,一切是为了保持立法机构 |
| 9 | in lockstep with the president's vision. | 与总统的远见一致 |
| 10 | Leader Thune, thank you for sitting down with us. | 组长 Thune 谢谢你和我们坐在一起 |
| 11 | Talk about some of the accomplishments that you're proudest of as Senate Majority Leader | 谈谈你作为参议院多数党领袖最自豪的成就 |
| 12 | in the first 100 now plus days of the Trump administration. | 在前100年 加上特朗普政府的日子。 |
| 13 | Well, I tell people, Laura, | 我告诉大家 劳拉 |
| 14 | that for better or worse, the Senate spends about two thirds of its time on personnel. | 无论好坏,参议院将三分之二的时间用于人事。 |
| 15 | So a lot of it is getting the president's team through the process. | 所以很多事情是让总统的团队通过这个过程. |
| 16 | The nominations | 提名 |
| 17 | If you can believe this, there are 1,100 executive branch positions that come through the Senate | 如果你能相信,有1,100个行政部门的职位通过参议院 |
| 18 | for confirmation, and then you have all the judges on top of that. | 然后所有的评委都在上面 |
| 19 | We worked really hard | 我们很努力 |
| 20 | at getting the cabinet through the process at the fastest rate in 20 years. | 以20年来最快的速度让内阁通过这一进程。 |
| 21 | We've cast way | 我们让路了 |
| 22 | more votes in the Senate than any Senate at this point going back to the Reagan administration. | 参议院的选票比任何参议院都多 现在回到里根政府 |
| 23 | We were in session for 10 consecutive weeks, which hasn't happened since 2009. | 我们连续开会10周,这自2009年以来从未发生过。 |
| 24 | So the paces | 所以步调 |
| 25 | is, you know, we're moving at a rapid pace. | 你知道,我们正在快速前进。 |
| 26 | And next up is, of course, reconciliation. | 接下来当然是和解。 |
| 27 | Tell me about unifying the Senate Republicans in order to get through all of those Senate | 告诉我关于团结参议院的共和党 以便通过所有的参议院 |
| 28 | confirmations. | 证实。 |
| 29 | We want to be good partners to President Trump and make sure that he has | 我们要成为川普总统的好伙伴 确保他有 |
| 30 | the people he wants. | 他想要的人们。 |
| 31 | We push really hard. | 我们用力推 |
| 32 | And a lot of our members, obviously, some of these | 我们的很多成员,很明显,其中一些 |
| 33 | things, they take time. | 事情,它们需要时间。 |
| 34 | And of course, we're getting no cooperation from the Democrats. | 当然,我们没有得到民主党的合作。 |
| 35 | They're | 他们是 |
| 36 | doing everything they can to obstruct and block and delay. | 尽一切可能阻挠 阻挠 拖延 |
| 37 | And sometimes it takes multiple votes | 有时得多票 |
| 38 | on the floor. | 在地板上。 |
| 39 | We've worked overnight a couple of times. | 我们连夜工作过几次 |
| 40 | We've worked on weekends a couple of | 我们周末工作过几次 |
| 41 | times. | 时间。 |
| 42 | There is great unity. | 存在着极大的团结。 |
| 43 | President Trump and his team, Speaker Johnson in the House, | 川普总统和他的团队 议长约翰逊在众议院, |
| 44 | Senate Republicans realize that if we're going to use those two years for our majorities, hopefully | 参议院的共和党人意识到 如果我们要用那两年来做我们的多数, 希望 |
| 45 | for, to the ultimate advantage, we've got to be able to work together in a way that enables us | 因为,最终优势是,我们必须能够 合作的方式让我们 |
| 46 | to get a lot of that agenda across the finish line. | 将很多议程 跨越终点线。 |
| 47 | You know, we've always got to be able to | 你知道,我们总是要能够 |
| 48 | And then if we get to 50, we can have J.D. | 然后如果我们达到50, 我们可以有J. D. |
| 49 | Vance, the Vice President, break the tie in the Senate. | 副总统万斯打破参议院的平局. |
| 50 | We've gotten several bills across the finish line. | 我们得到了几个账单跨越终点线。 |
| 51 | We're undoing a lot of the heavy regulatory | 我们取消了很多重规 |
| 52 | burden of the Biden administration. | 拜登政府的负担。 |
| 53 | It's a work in progress. | 作品在进行中. |
| 54 | It's never easy. | 从来不易. |
| 55 | Legislative bodies, | 立法机构; |
| 56 | by definition, are, it's just, it's hard, arduous work. | 顾名思义,这是,它只是, 它的艰苦,艰苦的工作。 |
| 57 | But we have, we know where we want to get. | 但我们知道我们想得到什么 |
| 58 | And what the American people voted for is an agenda that we are all on the same page with. | 而美国人民所投的票 是一个我们都站在同一页上的议程。 |
| 59 | The president also plays a role in everything that happens here in Washington, D.C. | 总统也在华盛顿特区发生的每件事中扮演了角色. |
| 60 | Talk a little bit about where he's most impactful. | 谈谈他影响最大的地方 |
| 61 | He's enormously influential in both the House and | 他在众议院和众议院都有很大的影响力 |
| 62 | the Senate. | 参议院。 |
| 63 | And when it comes time for tough votes, and, you know, sometimes there's a certain | 当时机成熟的时候, 强硬的投票, 你知道,有时有某种 |
| 64 | art form to getting everybody pulling the same direction, but he has a gift for that. | 艺术形式,让每个人 采取相同的方向, 但他有天赋。 |
| 65 | And, | 还有, |
| 66 | deploys him. | 部署他 |
| 67 | We deploy him in talking to individual senators and House members. | 我们派他和参议员和众议院议员交谈 |
| 68 | And so when it comes to getting his agenda across the finish line, I think he understands and | 所以,当他把议程 超越终点线,我想他明白 |
| 69 | realizes, as does his team at the White House, that he is the most influential figure in seeing | 他意识到,正如他在白宫的团队一样, 他是最有影响力的人物 |
| 70 | that that happens. | 发生这种情况。 |
| 71 | Our big, beautiful bill. | 我们的大,美丽的比尔。 |
| 72 | Fortunately, we have the House, we have the Senate, | 幸运的是,我们有众议院,我们有参议院, |
| 73 | and we may or may not have a couple of grandstanders. | 我们也许有或没有 几个外公。 |
| 74 | I don't know. | 师曰. |
| 75 | But if we do, | 但是,如果我们这样做, |
| 76 | it would be good if you could work on anybody. | 如果你能为任何人工作 那会很好 |
| 77 | I mean, if I were a Democrat, I'd be voting for it | 我的意思是,如果我是民主党人, 我会投票支持它。 |
| 78 | 100 percent, because I think it's very dangerous politically not to vote for it. | 百分之百,因为我认为不投票在政治上是非常危险的. |
| 79 | What's your take on the behavior, by and large, of the Democrat Party? | 你对民主党的行为有什么看法? |
| 80 | I just think they're really floundering. | 我只是觉得他们真的有问题 |
| 81 | You know, as a party, they're looking for an identity, | 你知道,作为一个党, 他们正在寻找一个身份, |
| 82 | and they've gotten so far out of the political mainstream. | 他们已经远离政治主流 |
| 83 | And so now their only thing really | 所以现在他们唯一真正 |
| 84 | is, I call it, you know, everybody calls it Trump Derangement Syndrome. | 是,我称之为,你知道, 每个人都称之为特朗普 离散综合征。 |
| 85 | And so a lot of the antics | 所以很多的肛门 |
| 86 | that they pull on the floor are designed to be performative and juices their political | 他们拉在地板上 被设计为 表演和果汁 他们的政治 |
| 87 | contributions and giving. | 捐款和捐赠。 |
| 88 | But at the end of the day, it doesn't get anything done for the | 但最后,它没有得到什么为 |
| 89 | American people. | 美国人民。 |
| 90 | What should the American people be paying attention to that the U.S. Senate, | 美国人民应该怎么关注 美国参议院, |
| 91 | led by you, is focusing on coming up next? | 由你领导, 专注于下一个? |
| 92 | The most immediate thing is this budget | 最直接的事就是这个预算 |
| 93 | reconciliation bill, which will incorporate the issue of, we talked about energy dominance, | 和解法案,将包含的问题, 我们谈论能源主导, |
| 94 | energy independence. | 能源独立。 |
| 95 | I would say energy dominance more so than just independence. | 我认为,能源主导权不仅仅是独立。 |
| 96 | Tax relief. | 减税. |
| 97 | There are some priorities. | 有一些优先事项。 |
| 98 | The present one's included in addition to extending | 除了扩大范围外,本表还包括: |
| 99 | the 2017 tax policy. | 2017年税收政策。 |
| 100 | We've got to get serious about spending reduction. | 我们必须认真对待削减开支的问题. |
| 101 | And so we're having | 所以我们有 |
| 102 | a very, very vigorous conversation about how to accomplish that within the construct of the | 一个非常,非常热烈的谈话 关于如何在构建 |
| 103 | reconciliation bill. | 和解法案。 |
| 104 | It'll have a generational investment in border security, and it will have | 在边境安全方面会有代代相传的投资 |
| 105 | a significant investment in military readiness, which is long overdue. | 早就应该对军事准备进行大量投资。 |
| 106 | Senate Majority Leader, | 参议院多数党领袖, |
| 107 | that's a big role. | 这是一个大角色。 |
| 108 | That's a big title. | 这是一个大标题。 |
| 109 | Is it what you thought it would be? | 是你想的那样吗? |
| 110 | My whole | 我的整个 |
| 111 | idea in public life is you just want to serve causes that are greater than yourself. | 公众生活中的想法是 你只想为那些比自己更伟大的事业服务 |
| 112 | You want | 稱 |
| 113 | to live a life of purpose. | 过着有目的的生活 |
| 114 | And I feel like that what we're doing right now is very purposeful. | 我觉得我们现在做的事很有目的性。 |
| 115 | And so there is satisfaction in that. | 因此,人们对此感到满意。 |
| 116 | It's hard. | 难曰. |
| 117 | And you feel the weight of it, obviously, | 你感觉到它的重量,很明显, |
| 118 | just the management of the floor on a daily basis, and particularly with all the shenanigans the | 只是日常的地板管理, 特别是所有外号 |
| 119 | Democrats are trying to pull and how they're trying to slow and stop what we're trying to | 民主党试图拉 和他们如何试图 慢和停止我们试图 |
| 120 | That's what we're committed to. | 这就是我们的承诺。 |
| 121 | And all that hard work has to happen somewhere. | 所有的辛勤工作都得在某个地方进行 |
| 122 | ┮ Leader | |
| 123 | gave us a tour of his historic office. | 我们参观了他的历史性办公室。 |
| 124 | So here we are. | 我们到了 |
| 125 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 126 | Thank you very much. | 谢谢 |
| 127 | Wow. | 珃 |
| 128 | This is | 这是 |
| 129 | quite an office. | 不错的办公室。 |
| 130 | This has a war of 1812 story behind it. | 这背后是一场1812年战争的故事. |
| 131 | The fireplace was cracked at that time. | 当时的壁炉破裂. |
| 132 | And that crack exists today. | 而这种裂缝今天就存在。 |
| 133 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 134 | Wow. | 珃 |
| 135 | That's amazing. | 这是惊人的。 |
| 136 | This looks like a guy who may have been | 这看起来像一个家伙 谁可能是 |
| 137 | South Dakota at one time. | 一次南达科他州. |
| 138 | We did an online contest to name him. | 我们做了一个在线比赛来命名他。 |
| 139 | And but the winning one was Myrtle, | 胜者是弥陀, |
| 140 | which is my hometown. | 那是我的家乡。 |
| 141 | It's a little town in the middle of South Dakota. | 南达科他州中部的一个小城镇. |
| 142 | So this is Myrtle. | 故此弥陀. |
| 143 | And | 还有 |
| 144 | but yeah, he's a they are a very majestic animal. | 但是,他是一个非常雄伟的动物。 |
| 145 | And if you ever visit South Dakota, | 如果你去过南达科他州 |
| 146 | particularly the Black Hills, there's a place called Custer State Park, where the buffalo still | 特别是黑山 有个叫卡斯特州立公园的地方 水牛还在那里 |
| 147 | roam freely during certain seasons of the year. | 在一年中的某些季节自由漫游. |
| 148 | A lot of people will be descending on South Dakota, | 很多人会来到南达科他州 |
| 149 | maybe one particular area come July 4 of next year. | 也许明年7月4日会有一个地区 |
| 150 | Yes, that's right. | 没错 |
| 151 | There might be something | 也许有什么东西 |
| 152 | going on there. | 就是这样 |
| 153 | It will be a big deal. | 这将是一个大问题。 |
| 154 | There will be a big event there coming up for the 250th | 250号会有个盛会 |
| 155 | birthday of America. | 美国的生日。 |
| 156 | And Mount Rushmore is really cool. | 拉什莫尔山真的很酷 |
| 157 | President Trump was there 70 years ago and | 川普总统70年前在场 |
| 158 | had a wonderful event. | 有个美好的事件 |
| 159 | But yeah, I think it'd be good to do a redo with that. | 但是,是的,我觉得做一个重做是好的。 |
| 160 | This is the office of | 这是办公室 |
| 161 | the Republican leader. | 共和党领袖 |
| 162 | And that used to be in the old days, they switched them when the majority | 以前是以前, 他们换了,当大多数人 |
| 163 | switched. | 切换。 |
| 164 | But what's happened in more recent years is the Democrats Schumer has kept his office | 但近年来发生的是 民主党人舒默保留了他的职位 |
| 165 | on the other side of the Capitol. | 在首都的另一边 |
| 166 | And this has kind of maintained the Republican office. | 这维持了共和国的办公室 |
| 167 | Are you going to keep you guys separated? | 你们要分开吗? |
| 168 | Yeah, I think so. | 是的,我想是这样。 |
| 169 | Go to your respective corners and | 到你们各自的角落去 |
| 170 | cow off and then come out and duke it out. | 奶牛关闭,然后出来 并推出来。 |
| 171 | This is the my grandfather and great uncle. | 这是我爷爷和叔叔 |
| 172 | Oh, wow. | 哦,哇呜。 |
| 173 | 1906 in South Dakota, they worked on the railroad when they came to this country, they started a | 1906年在南达科他州 他们来到这个国家时 在铁路上工作 他们开始 |
| 174 | merchandising company together, which later became a hardware store. | 交易公司一起,后来成为五金店. |
| 175 | So Thune Hardware and Mitchell, | 因此,Thune硬件和米切尔, |
| 176 | and then my grandfather came back to the little town I grew up in and took over the hardware store | 然后我祖父回到了我长大的小城镇 接管了五金店 |
| 177 | there. | 这里 |
| 178 | So anyway, that's kind of how they all got here. | 所以,不管怎样,他们都是这么来的。 |
| 179 | Right. | 对 |
| 180 | And this is, I mean, this is all | 这是,我的意思,这是所有 |
| 181 | history here. | 这里的历史。 |
| 182 | Yeah, it is. | 是的,这是。 |
| 183 | And then you have the view out here on the National Mall. | 然后在国家商场上有风景 |
| 184 | If you're a | 如果你是一个 |
| 185 | runner, if you go, if you start here at the Capitol and go down around the Washington Monument and back | 跑步,如果你走了,如果你从这里开始 在国会大厦走下去 绕过华盛顿纪念碑,然后回来 |
| 186 | along the mall, it's about three miles. | 沿着商场,大约三英里。 |
| 187 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 188 | And if you go beyond, you can see the Lincoln Memorial | 如果你超越,你可以看到林肯纪念馆 |
| 189 | beyond that. | 除此之外。 |
| 190 | And if you go down and circle the Lincoln Memorial and come back starting here, | 如果你从这里开始环绕林肯纪念堂 |
| 191 | it's about 4.7. | 大约是4.7 |
| 192 | All of our runs mapped out. | 我们所有的工作都完成了 |
| 193 | Next time, I think we're going to have to do a run | 下次,我想我们得跑一趟 |
| 194 | together. | 一起来 |
| 195 | And he should know, in 2012, Runners World Magazine named Leader Thune the fastest man | 他应该知道,2012年,《奔跑者世界杂志》 将蒂恩领袖命名为最快的人 |
| 196 | in Congress. | 在国会。 |
| 197 | So Leader Thune, do you still feel like you hold that title? | 队长 Thune,你还觉得自己有这个头衔吗? |
| 198 | I've always said when | 我总是说什么时候 |
| 199 | they describe you as the fastest man in Congress, that's like being the best surfer in Kansas. | 他们把你形容为 国会最快的人 就像堪萨斯州最好的冲浪手 |
| 200 | It's a nice title to have, but I'm not sure how much it really means. | 这是一个不错的标题, 但我不知道它到底意味着什么。 |
| 201 | My knees are going, | 我的膝盖要动了 |
| 202 | and so I'm having a hard time. | 所以我很难过 |
| 203 | I probably wouldn't be able to defend that title today. | 今天我可能无法捍卫这个头衔 |
| 204 | I think it's | 我觉得 |
| 205 | important to stay challenged. | 对继续挑战很重要 |
| 206 | And I think being physically fit helps with all the other issues | 我觉得身体健全能帮助解决其他问题 |
| 207 | that you deal with on a daily basis. | 你们每天处理。 |
| 208 | Well, Senate Majority Leader Thune, thank you so much for | 参议院多数党领袖 Thune 非常感谢你 |
| 209 | sitting down with us. | 和我们坐在一起。 |
| 210 | Good luck with everything you've got coming up. | 祝你们一切顺利 |
| 211 | I tell you what, everybody | 我告诉你,大家 |
| 212 | here in Capitol Hill on the Republican side is making us very proud. | 共和党那边的国会山 令我们非常自豪 |
| 213 | So thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 214 | Appreciate | 谢谢 |
| 215 | that. | 那个 |
| 216 | Thanks, Laura. | 谢谢,劳拉。 |
| 217 | Tingo! | 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 |
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