副总统JD万斯上比尔·马赫的脱口秀节目 | 2026.7.4
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| 0:01 | He is the 50th vice president of the United States and author of two number one best-selling books | 他是美国第50任副总统 也是两本畅销书的作者 |
| 0:07 | {\fn华文楷体\fs20\bord1\shad1\1cHE0E0E0\2cH000000}Hillbilly Elegy 和現在出門的那個 圣餐會找到我回到信仰的路 | |
| 0:28 | Not bad, do I have the nicest crowd? | 不错,我有最好的人群吗? |
| 0:30 | I'm sure it's the only applause I'll get but I'll take it | 我敢肯定,这是唯一的掌声 我会得到,但我会接受 |
| 0:34 | I'm just glad you're talking to me. | 我很高兴你跟我说话 |
| 0:36 | You know, I mean I say it every time and the Republicans come here | 你知道,我的意思是,我说它 每次和共和党来这里 |
| 0:39 | They take their beating like a man | 他们像男人一样打人 |
| 0:43 | It's the people I vote for | 是我投给的人 |
| 0:45 | They're the ones who won't talk to me. | 他们是不肯跟我说话的人 |
| 0:46 | That's odd, isn't it? | 这很奇怪,不是吗? |
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| 1 | He is the 50th vice president of the United States and author of two number one best-selling books | 他是美国第50任副总统 也是两本畅销书的作者 |
| 2 | {\fn华文楷体\fs20\bord1\shad1\1cHE0E0E0\2cH000000}Hillbilly Elegy 和現在出門的那個 圣餐會找到我回到信仰的路 | |
| 3 | Not bad, do I have the nicest crowd? | 不错,我有最好的人群吗? |
| 4 | I'm sure it's the only applause I'll get but I'll take it | 我敢肯定,这是唯一的掌声 我会得到,但我会接受 |
| 5 | I'm just glad you're talking to me. | 我很高兴你跟我说话 |
| 6 | You know, I mean I say it every time and the Republicans come here | 你知道,我的意思是,我说它 每次和共和党来这里 |
| 7 | They take their beating like a man | 他们像男人一样打人 |
| 8 | It's the people I vote for | 是我投给的人 |
| 9 | They're the ones who won't talk to me. | 他们是不肯跟我说话的人 |
| 10 | That's odd, isn't it? | 这很奇怪,不是吗? |
| 11 | It is very odd | 这很奇怪 |
| 12 | I mean and I'm probably like this new woman who was elected in New York. | 我的意思是,我可能 喜欢这个新女人 谁在纽约当选。 |
| 13 | Do you think she'll come on the show? | 你觉得她会来演出吗? |
| 14 | Oh, I know you want | 哦,我知道你喜欢 |
| 15 | No, I can't get AOC. | 不,我不能得到AOC。 |
| 16 | I can't get mandami. | 我不能得到曼达米。 |
| 17 | I can't couldn't get Kamala Harris, you know took me eight years to get Obama | 我拿不到卡玛拉·哈里斯,你知道我花了八年才得到奥巴马 |
| 18 | Anyway, let's not talk about my problem | 总之,我们不要谈我的问题 |
| 19 | And I promise this is gonna be a lot easier than talking to the Iranian | 我保证这比跟伊朗人说话容易得多 |
| 20 | Or even more the view the question is whether it's harder than the view that's right | 问题更在于 是否比正确的观点更难 |
| 21 | But look you're negotiating for America I I'm rooting for America so I want success here | 但你在为美国谈判 我支持美国 所以我想在这里取得成功 |
| 22 | But you know you came out of these meetings I heard sort of the same thing | 但你知道你从这些会议上出来 我听到同样的事情 |
| 23 | I've heard a lot of talk about progress and that I've heard it so many times before | 我听过很多关于进步的演讲 也听过很多次了 |
| 24 | Why is this different? | 为什么不一样? |
| 25 | Why isn't it bullshit this time? | 为什么这次不是废话? |
| 26 | Well, I'd say the most important thing bill is that the the people who judge whether the oil is actually flowing | 那么,我想说,最重要的是法案 是那些判断石油是否真正流动的人 |
| 27 | They judge this as a success, right? | 他们判断这是成功的 对吧? |
| 28 | So if you look at oil right now, it's back down to $73 a barrel got up to $126 a barrel | 所以,如果你现在看石油, 它回落到73美元一桶 得到高达126美元一桶 |
| 29 | So there's a signal that there's something real going on here | 所以有信号说这里真的发生了 |
| 30 | I think the second bill is whether we make the final deal because you have to remember this MOU is fundamentally | 我认为第二个法案是,我们是否做了最后的交易 因为你必须记住这个备忘录 |
| 31 | It says the Straits are going to be open. | 上面说海峡会开放 |
| 32 | The oil is going to flow. | 油要流出来了 |
| 33 | We're seeing that happen already | 我们已经看到这种情况了 |
| 34 | It's also a ceasefire which as you pointed out is always going to be a little messy when you're dealing with the Iranians | 正如你所指出 与伊朗人打交道时 停火总是会有点混乱 |
| 35 | But if we make the final deal then great if we don't make the final deal their nuclear program is still destroyed | 但是如果我们做最后一笔交易 那么如果我们不做最后一笔交易 他们的核计划仍然被摧毁 |
| 36 | They're still much weaker as a country | 他们比国家还弱得多 |
| 37 | So my attitude is America wins either way | 我的态度是美国赢 |
| 38 | But I do think that what the president has done is asked us to do something that frankly | 但我确实认为总统所做的 是要求我们做一些 坦率地说 |
| 39 | Nobody in 47 years of dealing with the Iranians has done which is offer them an opportunity to fundamentally transform how they behave with the West | 在与伊朗人打交道的47年里,没有人这样做过,这给他们提供了一个机会,让他们从根本上改变对西方的态度。 |
| 40 | They've been the largest state sponsor of terrorism basically since they they began as a nation or at least as an Islamic Republic | 他们是恐怖主义的最大赞助国 基本上,自从他们开始作为一个国家或至少作为一个伊斯兰共和国 |
| 41 | -47年前 -47年前 -47 years ago. | |
| 42 | He's saying look if they're willing to change we're willing to change too | 他说如果他们愿意改变,我们也愿意改变 |
| 43 | If they're not willing to change we still fundamentally have all the cards and I think that's a good place for us to be | 如果他们不愿意改变,我们根本上仍然拥有所有的牌 我想那对我们来说是一个好地方 |
| 44 | But their program isn't destroyed the nuclear program isn't destroyed | 但是他们的计划没有被摧毁 核计划也没有被摧毁 |
| 45 | I mean, I don't know | 我是说,我不知道 |
| 46 | иぃ笵и璸购 癬ㄓи弧и⊿Τ destroyed | |
| 47 | Well, we didn't get in there. | 我们没进去 |
| 48 | The whole thing was we have to get in there and see or the rest | 整件事就是我们必须进去看看 或者其他的 |
| 49 | We wouldn't be doing this. | 我们不会这么做的 |
| 50 | Well, let me say we didn't first of all so a nuclear program and I'm hardly a nuclear scientist | 好吧,让我说,我们没有 首先如此一个核方案 而我不是核科学家 |
| 51 | I'm a lowly politician | 我是一个低贱的政客 |
| 52 | But the thing that you have to destroy is their ability to enrich uranium which has been destroyed you have to destroy their ability | 但你必须摧毁的是 他们浓缩铀的能力 已经摧毁了 你必须摧毁他们的能力 |
| 53 | Well, because you need functioning centrifuges that can actually | 因为你需要能起作用的离心机 |
| 54 | We've got to get in there and we got to get the dust. | 得入涅盘而得尘数. |
| 55 | Okay, and we didn't get in there | 好吧,我们没进去 |
| 56 | So how do we get the dust? | 那么,我们如何得到尘埃? |
| 57 | So that's actually a separate question | 这其实是一个单独的问题 |
| 58 | So there's the highly enriched stockpile which by the way was allowed to accumulate over 20 years of previous administrations | 因此,有高度丰富的储存 顺便说一句,它被允许 积累在过去的20年的政府 |
| 59 | That enriched stockpile is something that we want to get but bill if we never get it and the president wants it and we are | 富足的储备是我们希望得到的东西 但是,如果我们从来没有得到它, 和总统想要它,我们是 |
| 60 | Going to get it | 去拿来 |
| 61 | But if we never got it, it's buried deep underground and they don't have the ability to turn it into a nuclear weapon | 但是,如果我们没拿到它,它就埋在地下深处了 他们没有能力把它变成核武器 |
| 62 | So the program is functionally destroyed. | 因此程序在功能上被破坏. |
| 63 | We're just talking about can we set them back even further through these negotiations? | 我们只是说,我们是否可以通过这些谈判进一步使他们退缩? |
| 64 | Okay | 还好 |
| 65 | I only have limited time with this. | 我的时间有限 |
| 66 | So I want to move on to other topics | 所以我想继续谈其他话题 |
| 67 | I want to tell you what people have been saying to me. | 我想告诉你人们对我说的话 |
| 68 | I told them, you know people get excited | 我告诉他们,你知道人们会兴奋 |
| 69 | Why you have the vice president on? | 为什么你有副总统吗? |
| 70 | I'm impressed myself. | 我对自己印象深刻 |
| 71 | I'm very excited about this. | 我很兴奋 |
| 72 | You know, I | 你知道吗,我 |
| 73 | Had I had Pence on I've had both his vice president a couple of weeks ago Pence was here | 如果我有便士 我得到了他的两位副总统 几个星期前,便士在这里 |
| 74 | I'm really with the vice president. | 我真的和副总统在一起 |
| 75 | Okay | 还好 |
| 76 | Yeah, what did you talk about with Mike Pence sex drugs and rock-and-roll | 是啊,你和迈克·彭斯谈了什么 性毒品和摇滚乐 |
| 77 | He was a lot more human than I thought it than I'd ever seen it | 他比我想象的更像人类 |
| 78 | I even asked him to come on my podcast where I get stoned and he was like maybe | 我甚至让他来我的播客 在那里我得到石头,他像也许 |
| 79 | When I say you here's what sticks in their craw okay number one issue | 当我说,你在这里是什么 粘在他们的面包 头号问题 |
| 80 | Immigration not immigration. | 移民不是移民。 |
| 81 | We we like it that you closed the border that needed to be done the people who were here | 我们喜欢你关闭边境 这需要做 在这里的人。 |
| 82 | The way you treated I'm talking about your administration | 你对待我的方式,我是指你的政府 |
| 83 | Okay, you're not there yourself, but ice all that shit too rough too mean too unnecessary | 好吧,你不在那里自己, 但冰所有狗屎 太粗糙,意味着太不必要的 |
| 84 | I think you go I'm not telling you what to do. | 我想你走了 我不会告诉你怎么做的 |
| 85 | Okay, I'm just giving you some advice as a friend. | 好吧,我只是给你一些建议 作为一个朋友。 |
| 86 | Okay | 还好 |
| 87 | And I'm not saying I'm not asking you to apologize if I don't like the people do that | 我不是说如果我不喜欢别人道歉 我也不是要你道歉 |
| 88 | I'm just saying you go a long way | 我只是说你走了很长的路 |
| 89 | Toward getting people who are just completely shut the door to you in your misery | 让那些在痛苦中 完全关上门的人 |
| 90 | If you would just own that that you guys went too far | 如果你们太过分了 |
| 91 | You went too far and you should own it like you did childless cat ladies | 你走得太远了,你应该拥有它 就像你做了没有孩子的猫女 |
| 92 | Here's the basic problem with that bill is you cannot do any deportations | 法案的基本问题在于 你不能驱逐任何人 |
| 93 | Without law enforcement and you can't do a law enforcement operation like that without having some situations | 没有执法部门,你就不能做这样的执法行动 没有某些情况 |
| 94 | That don't look good when they're when they're recorded like that. | 当他们这样被录制的时候,这看起来不妙. |
| 95 | I mean, let me give you like with just one obvious example | 我的意思是,让我给你像 一个明显的例子 |
| 96 | Let's just set aside the the immigration element of this | 我们把移民因素放在一边 |
| 97 | Okay | 还好 |
| 98 | If you take a guy who's committed murder and you go in and arrest that guy | 如果你带一个杀人犯进去抓他 |
| 99 | Sometimes that person is going to resist arrest | 有时候那个人会拒捕 |
| 100 | Sometimes if you take a video of it and it's out of context and you don't appreciate why that person is being arrested in the first | 有时候如果你拍下一段视频 断章取义 却不理解为什么那个人会在第一时间被捕 |
| 101 | Place it looks pretty icky if you take that out of context video clip | 把它放好,如果把它从上下文视频剪辑中取出来,看起来很恶心 |
| 102 | What I worry about is when people say you can't ever do immigration enforcement if it produces a bad video clip | 我担心的是,人们说,如果移民执法产生不良的视频片段,你永远不能这样做 |
| 103 | What they're really saying is you can't ever actually do immigration enforcement | 他们真正的意思是 你永远不能做 移民执法 |
| 104 | We had 12 million people come into the country into the interior over the last four years | 过去4年,我们有1200万人进入国内 |
| 105 | I should say from 2021 to 2025 and | 我应该说从2021年到2025年 |
| 106 | We were elected with a mandate to get some of those people out of the United States of America | 我们被选为美国的一部分人 |
| 107 | You can't do that easily law enforcement deporting people is never an easy process | 你不能这么轻易地执法 驱逐人从来就不容易 |
| 108 | So I appreciate your argument that we've gone too far | 所以,我很感激你的论点,我们走得太远了 |
| 109 | But we couldn't do nothing and I don't think there was an easy way to do this | 但是我们什么也做不了 我觉得没有这么简单的办法 |
| 110 | Of course, I just there's a middle ground | 当然,我只是有中间点 |
| 111 | So you get the thing that bothers us about stuff like that is that nothing ever lands in the middle? | 所以,你得到的东西 困扰我们的东西 这样的东西是,从来没有降落在中间? |
| 112 | Which is what I'm always trying to get people to do. | 这正是我一直试图 让人们做。 |
| 113 | I thought you were crazy liberal | 我以为你是疯狂的自由主义者 |
| 114 | I actually do watch the show. | 我确实看过演出 |
| 115 | I laugh my ass off backstage. | 我从后台笑出来 |
| 116 | I have a good monologue | 我有一个很好的独白 |
| 117 | I know someone in your administration who watches the show | 我知道有人在你的政府 谁看节目 |
| 118 | What we hate is that the pendulum never lands in the middle, you're right | 我们讨厌的是 钢笔从不落到中间 你说得对 |
| 119 | Biden did let in too many people and it just | 拜登确实让太多人进来了 它只是 |
| 120 | Boggles in mind why he did that but then it has to go all the way to the other side | 记着他为什么要这么做 但总得走到另一边 |
| 121 | Always nothing can ever land in the middle. | 总是没有任何东西可以降落在中间。 |
| 122 | Did they go too far? | 他们走得太远了吗? |
| 123 | Probably in the Pentagon with DEI and yes, and now Pete Hegseth is like firing everyone who's not whiter than an albino | 也许在五角大楼 与DEI和是的, 现在皮特·赫格塞斯 是像解雇所有 不白 比白化病患者 |
| 124 | I disagree with that. | 我不同意这一点。 |
| 125 | I think sometimes things do land right where they should but just you take the story about Pete Hegseth | 我觉得有时候事情会发生在他们该去的地方 但你只是把关于Pete Hegseth的故事 |
| 126 | Obviously, I'm biased. | 显然,我是有偏见的。 |
| 127 | I like Pete | 我喜欢皮特 |
| 128 | But if you look at the actual promotions that we've done there have been a lot of people from all walks of life | 但是,如果你看看我们的实际升职 有很多来自各行各业的人 |
| 129 | There have been some high-profile people where he said, you know what? | 有一些高调人物 他说,你知道吗? |
| 130 | I don't think that they merited a promotion | 我觉得他们不值得升职 |
| 131 | But the idea that we're not promoting minorities in the Pentagon under Pete Hegseth | 但皮特·赫格塞斯手下的五角大楼里 我们并没有提倡少数族群 |
| 132 | It's just not true. | 这不是真的 |
| 133 | And I do think that sometimes your criticism is things don't land in the middle and I understand that | 我确实认为有时你的批评是 事情不会落在中间 我知道 |
| 134 | Sometimes the problem is the media reports things in such a way where they actually | 有时候问题在于 媒体以这样的方式报道事情 |
| 135 | Obfuscate or conceal the truth rather than reporting what's actually going on. | 厌恶或隐瞒真相,而不是报道实际发生的事情. |
| 136 | Of course they do they all do | 当然,他们都这样做 |
| 137 | My recommendation is if you read a news story and it says something bad about me you should disbelieve it | 我的建议是,如果你读到一个新闻报导 却说出一些关于我的坏事 你应该相信 |
| 138 | It's probably lying | 可能是在撒谎 |
| 139 | But okay, but I'm again, I'm just trying to help you with your issues | 但我还是想帮你解决你的问题 |
| 140 | Because because I'll tell you something you and me in a hundred friends. | 因为我会告诉你一些事情 你和我在一百个朋友。 |
| 141 | This is like political | 这就像政治 |
| 142 | Something I don't think I've ever said but this what this happened this week | 我好像没说过 但是这周发生的事 |
| 143 | But the thing I'm sure you want to talk about we're gonna talk about on the panel what the Democratic Socialists | 但我敢肯定,你想谈的东西 关于我们要去谈论 在板上什么民主社会主义者 |
| 144 | I'm actually here to talk about my book. | 我其实是来谈我的书的 |
| 145 | I want everybody | 我要每个人 |
| 146 | It's it's called communion available wherever books are sorry | 这叫做圣餐 随时随地都可以买书 |
| 147 | We're just one more thing about this and then we'll get to the book, okay, okay | 我们只是一件事 关于这一点,然后我们会得到的书,好吗,好吧 |
| 148 | Like if this is where the Democratic Party is going where this Democratic Socialist this obsession with Israel with the Jew-hating | 如果这就是民主党要去的地方 这个民主社会主义者 迷恋以色列 恨犹太人 |
| 149 | With they don't believe in capitalism. | 他们不相信资本主义 |
| 150 | No prisons if this is where they're going | 没有监狱,如果这是他们要去的地方 |
| 151 | My vote is in play. | 我投的票还不错 |
| 152 | Okay, and I like to hear that it actually always has been I just every year | 好吧,我喜欢听到, 实际上,一直都是我 只是每年 |
| 153 | I don't make my decision by who was an R or D | 我不由谁是R或D来决定 |
| 154 | Actually always came to the conclusion that the Democrat was probably better sure and voted for them | 实际上总是得出一个结论, 民主党人可能更确定 并投给他们 |
| 155 | Okay, and Trump can't run again, and he'd be a little too exciting for me. | 好吧,特朗普不能再逃跑了 他对我来说太刺激了 |
| 156 | Anyway | 总之 |
| 157 | So it's either gonna be you or Rubio. | 所以要么是你 要么是鲁比奥 |
| 158 | Here's my deal breaker for your side. | 这是我的交易破解器 为你一方。 |
| 159 | Okay, okay under Trump | 好吧,好吧,在特朗普下 |
| 160 | You guys have two outcomes in an election can be either we win or they cheated that shit has to stop | 你们在一次选举中有两个结果 要么我们赢了 要么他们欺骗了那狗屎必须停止 |
| 161 | And the person | 那个人 |
| 162 | The person who has to stop it would be you or Marco | 要阻止的人是你还是马可 |
| 163 | Can you tell me you will do that will you bring us back to the middle at least on that where we concede elections | 你能告诉我,你会做到这一点 你会带我们回到中间 至少我们承认选举 |
| 164 | Where it's not either one of those two options. | 在这两个选择中都没有 |
| 165 | Okay, Bill | 好,比尔 |
| 166 | So this is where I'm probably gonna lose you here, but here's that happened about eight minutes ago | 所以,这就是我可能要失去你的地方, 但这里发生大约8分钟前 |
| 167 | Look I I I don't think that we should not concede elections, but I don't think that's what's going on | 听着,我不认为我们不应该承认选举, 但我不认为这是发生了什么 |
| 168 | I think that if you go back if you go back to the president's core argument | 我认为如果你回去 如果你回到总统的核心争论 |
| 169 | He was making an argument about problems that existed in 2020 and here's the problem that I'm most focused on the president | 他在争论2020年的问题 我最关注的是总统 |
| 170 | I've talked a lot about this and I think we we we share a perspective here | 我谈了很多,我觉得我们有一个共同的观点 |
| 171 | But set to the side the stuff that really gets you and your audience very angry about whether the count was legitimate in | 但把真正让你和观众 感到愤怒的东西 放在一边 对于伯爵是否合法 |
| 172 | Georgia or Pennsylvania or any of these other states? | 佐治亚州或宾夕法尼亚州或其他州? |
| 173 | Is it true that large technology companies? | 大型技术公司是真的吗? |
| 174 | Some of whom have financial interests that exist outside the United States of America were they censoring | 其中一些人在美利坚合众国以外有经济利益,他们审查 |
| 175 | information in the run-up to an election and | 选举前的资料 |
| 176 | Set to the side the stuff again the Georgia stuff, but it is | 把佐治亚的东西放在一边 |
| 177 | That was litigated Dominion the Fox News | 福克斯新闻的主人公被起诉了 |
| 178 | I'm actually I'm trying to make the more the more middle ground argument here | 我其实是想把中间的争论弄得越多 |
| 179 | The biggest criticism I had at the 2020 election is that you had technology companies that were quite literally | 在2020年大选中我最大的批评是 你拥有的科技公司 字面上是 |
| 180 | censoring negative information about the left and | 检查关于左翼和 |
| 181 | Promoting negative information about the right | 宣传有关权利的负面信息 |
| 182 | So in a fundamental sense like if the first amendment says that we have a free and open debate and then the American people | 所以,从根本意义上来说,如果第一修正案说,我们有一个自由和公开的辩论,然后美国人民 |
| 183 | Judge based on that free and open debate the sense in which I think the election in 2020 was rigged | 根据这次自由而公开的辩论,法官认为2020年的选举受到了操纵。 |
| 184 | I'm sorry is that you had technology companies that were putting their thumb on the scale in a way that completely | 对不起,你有一个技术公司 他们把拇指 在比例的方式完全 |
| 185 | Obliterated the real open exchange of ideas now, by the way, it didn't happen in 2024 | 现在,我们没有在2024年 真正公开地交流思想 |
| 186 | But it happened in 2020 and it was a problem | 但发生在2020年,这是一个问题 |
| 187 | Let's talk about your book community, I think it's very interesting because you know, I always want to talk about what people have in common | 我们来谈谈你的书社,我觉得这很有趣 因为你知道,我总是想谈 人们有什么共同点 |
| 188 | I used to be Catholic. | 我曾经是天主教徒 |
| 189 | You're a Catholic now. | 你现在是天主教徒了 |
| 190 | That's right | 没错 |
| 191 | You used to be an atheist I'm an atheist now | 你以前是无神论者 我现在是无神论者 |
| 192 | You were born a Baptist this is about your your spiritual journey, that's right, which is really interesting | 你生来就是浸信会的,这是关于你的精神旅程, 没错,这很有趣 |
| 193 | And by the way, we're very very personal. | 顺便说一句,我们非常私人。 |
| 194 | Yeah, it reminded me a little of Gavin Newsom | 是啊,这让我想起了加文・纽森 |
| 195 | He has a book here and I was very surprised it didn't look like his book. | 他这儿有本书 我很惊讶它不像他的书 |
| 196 | Did you read his book people bought my book? | 你读过他那本书的人买了我的书吗? |
| 197 | That's the difference | 这就是区别 |
| 198 | Like was that mean I'm just saying that's fine | 就像那个意思,我只是说,没关系 |
| 199 | Well, I'm just saying politicians are getting a lot more real when they write, you know | 我只是说当政客写文章的时候 他们越来越真实 |
| 200 | It's not like that old kind of look, you know, sir, and it's about you're moving toward the I'm just asking why the Catholics why go | 这不是那种老样子,你知道的,先生, 这是关于你 向着那个我只是问为什么天主教徒去 |
| 201 | I didn't have a good experience with them. | 我对他们没有很好的经验。 |
| 202 | Why did why did you you could have went Hindu your wife's a Hindu? | 为什么你可以去印度教 你的妻子是印度教徒? |
| 203 | Well, we we should talk about that bill in a longer setting not just you know | 我们应该在更长的时间内讨论该法案 不只是你知道 |
| 204 | In front of the audience do the podcast, okay | 在观众面前做播客,好吗? |
| 205 | I'm not gonna smoke weed though. | 我不会抽烟的 |
| 206 | I don't ruin my | 我不会毁了我的 |
| 207 | Mean here here's let me try to answer that question | 意思是 让我来回答这个问题 |
| 208 | Okay | 还好 |
| 209 | so first of all | 所以首先 |
| 210 | I think that there's a core truth of | 我认为有一个核心的真理 |
| 211 | The Catholic or the Christian faith that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that all people need grace. | 天主教或基督教信仰认为耶稣基督是天子,所有人都需要恩惠. |
| 212 | Okay, but that | 好吧,但那个 |
| 213 | Fundamental truth that I believe in I didn't land there | 根本的真理 我相信 我没有降落在那里 |
| 214 | I didn't start there what I saw was what I would call echoes of that truth in a lot of the people who live their | 我并不是从那里开始的 我看到的就是 我所说的 真相的回响 在很多人 谁生活他们 |
| 215 | Lives in very very charitable and good ways | 以非常慈善和良好的方式生活 |
| 216 | but I think with Catholicism in particular what's interesting about it because I meet a lot of young Catholic converts is | 但我认为天主教特别有趣 因为我认识很多年轻的天主教徒 |
| 217 | They start to discover that truth because they're attracted to the beauty and the stability of it | 他们开始发现真相 因为他们被它的美丽和稳定吸引 |
| 218 | I think people are craving in a modern world where we build ugly buildings and | 我认为人们渴望在现代世界里 我们建造丑陋的建筑 |
| 219 | Everything is constantly changing and social networks have changed even how you know men and women date one another | 每件事物都在不断变化,社交网络也发生了变化, 即使你是如何认识男人和女人的 |
| 220 | I think that people are craving something that is more stable and that calls us to something more beautiful | 我认为人们渴望的东西 更稳定, 并唤醒我们 更美丽的东西 |
| 221 | and I think that was one of the ways that I found | 我觉得那是我找到的方法之一 |
| 222 | I've actually gotten criticisms, you know, one of the things I talk about in the book is I was a striver and I think that | 我实际上得到了批评,你知道, 书里我谈到的一件事是,我是一个奋斗者,我认为 |
| 223 | Was very bad | 实在是太糟了 |
| 224 | I think it's it's it's it's wrong to be ambitious for ambition's sake if you want to be ambitious | 我认为这是它 它是错误的 为野心的缘故 如果你想有野心 |
| 225 | You should be trying to accomplish something meaningful and it was my Christian faith | 你应该努力完成一些有意义的事,这是我的基督教信仰 |
| 226 | That encouraged me to actually worry about things that mattered like being a good husband being a good dad being a good community member | 这让我担心 做一个好丈夫 做一个好爸爸 |
| 227 | Now I get criticism from some Christians who say well, you know that that might be true | 现在,我受到一些基督徒的批评 那些说得好,你知道,这可能是真的 |
| 228 | But then you've got to talk about Jesus, too | 但你也得谈谈耶稣 |
| 229 | But I think my point is and I talk about in the book available wherever bookstores are sold | 但我认为我的观点是,我在书中谈论 任何书店出售。 |
| 230 | Again, it is that like I started seeing | 再说一遍,就像我开始看到 |
| 231 | Refractions of the truth of the Christian gospel and that got me on a pathway to where I eventually accepted the truth | 基督教福音的真理被歪曲 让我走上了最终接受真理的道路 |
| 232 | That Jesus Christ was the Son of God, but I think all of us have our own path | 耶稣基督是上帝之子 但我认为我们都有自己的路 |
| 233 | You obviously have yours, but it's not over yet man. | 你显然有你的,但它还没有结束。 |
| 234 | So I still have hope | 所以我还有希望 |
| 235 | Nice president | 不错的总统 |
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