比尔·克林顿就爱泼斯坦档案证词的开场陈述 | 2026.02
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| 0:02 | Former President Bill Clinton is in New York today testifying before lawmakers in a closed | 前总统比尔·克林顿今天在纽约 向立法者作证 |
| 0:07 | door deposition. | 门质证。 |
| 0:08 | Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton testified just yesterday. | 前国务卿希拉里·克林顿就在昨天作证。 |
| 0:11 | Now this is all related to the House Oversight Committee's investigation into late convicted | 这都和众议院监督委员会调查 晚期定罪有关 |
| 0:16 | sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. | 性罪犯杰弗里・爱泼斯坦。 |
| 0:19 | Yesterday, Ms. Clinton deferred a lot of questions to her husband today. | 昨天,克林顿女士今天把许多问题推迟到她丈夫面前。 |
| 0:23 | There were at least a dozen times when she said, you'll have to ask my husband that. | 她说过至少十几次 你得问我丈夫 |
| 0:28 | I can't answer that. | 我无法回答 |
| 0:29 | So we already had a big portfolio of questions for him, and that increased yesterday. | 所以,我们已经有了一个很大的问题 给他, 和昨天增加。 |
| 0:35 | So we look forward to that. | 因此,我们期待着这一点。 |
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| 1 | Former President Bill Clinton is in New York today testifying before lawmakers in a closed | 前总统比尔·克林顿今天在纽约 向立法者作证 |
| 2 | door deposition. | 门质证。 |
| 3 | Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton testified just yesterday. | 前国务卿希拉里·克林顿就在昨天作证。 |
| 4 | Now this is all related to the House Oversight Committee's investigation into late convicted | 这都和众议院监督委员会调查 晚期定罪有关 |
| 5 | sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. | 性罪犯杰弗里・爱泼斯坦。 |
| 6 | Yesterday, Ms. Clinton deferred a lot of questions to her husband today. | 昨天,克林顿女士今天把许多问题推迟到她丈夫面前。 |
| 7 | There were at least a dozen times when she said, you'll have to ask my husband that. | 她说过至少十几次 你得问我丈夫 |
| 8 | I can't answer that. | 我无法回答 |
| 9 | So we already had a big portfolio of questions for him, and that increased yesterday. | 所以,我们已经有了一个很大的问题 给他, 和昨天增加。 |
| 10 | So we look forward to that. | 因此,我们期待着这一点。 |
| 11 | Well, I think everyone's seeing there are a lot of photos that have been released by | 我想每个人都看到 有很多照片被发布 |
| 12 | the Department of Justice as well as the Epstein estate. | 司法部以及爱泼斯坦庄园 |
| 13 | There are a lot of email correspondence that included President Clinton. | 包括克林顿总统在内的许多电子邮件信件。 |
| 14 | We know President Clinton had and Secretary Clinton confirmed this yesterday. | 我们知道克林顿总统昨天证实了这一点。 |
| 15 | Jeffrey Epstein was in the White House 17 times while Bill Clinton was president. | 杰弗里·爱泼斯坦在比尔·克林顿担任总统期间在白宫里共17次. |
| 16 | We know that Bill Clinton flew on Jeffrey Epstein's plane at least 27 times. | 我们知道比尔·克林顿至少27次乘坐杰弗里·爱泼斯坦的飞机. |
| 17 | So those are questions that we're going to ask. | 这就是我们要问的问题。 |
| 18 | And here's the Oversight Committee's top Democrat who says they want to hear from anyone with | 监督委员会的民主党高层说 他们想从任何人那里听到 |
| 19 | information regardless of party. | 信息,不论党派。 |
| 20 | What we're interested in today is a serious deposition. | 我们今天感兴趣的是严肃的取证 |
| 21 | We have real questions that deserve serious answers from former President Clinton. | 我们有真正的问题需要前总统克林顿认真回答。 |
| 22 | And we have said from day one that Democrats want to talk to anyone, whether they are a | 我们从第一天起就说 民主党人想跟任何人说话 他们是不是 |
| 23 | Republican or a Democrat, no matter how powerful they are, whatever position that they've been | 共和党或民主党人,无论他们多么强大,无论他们曾经担任过什么职务. |
| 24 | in. | 进去 |
| 25 | If anyone has information about Jeffrey Epstein and certainly the horror that he inflicted | 如果有人知道杰弗里·爱泼斯坦 以及他所制造的恐怖 |
| 26 | on so many women and children, we want to hear from them. | 这么多的妇女和儿童,我们想听到他们的声音。 |
| 27 | CBS新闻记者Nicole Killian 现在正和我们一起在New直播 | |
| 28 | York. | 约克 |
| 29 | And Nicole, what can you tell us about what's happened so far? | 妮可,你能告诉我们到目前为止发生了什么吗? |
| 30 | Yeah, well, obviously, I think we should start with former President Bill Clinton's opening | 是的,很明显,我认为我们应该 从前总统比尔·克林顿的开幕开始 |
| 31 | statement, which was just released and, you know, was delivered to the committee here | 声明,刚刚发布,你知道, 交付给这里的委员会 |
| 32 | in Chappaqua. | 在查帕夸 |
| 33 | Interestingly, the president started by welcoming lawmakers to Chappaqua. | 有趣的是,总统首先欢迎立法者来到查帕夸. |
| 34 | And he also said that he is doing this because he loves this country. | 他还说,他这样做是因为他热爱这个国家。 |
| 35 | He also felt the need to set the record straight. | 他还感到有必要澄清事实。 |
| 36 | And so I want to read from part of his statement. | 所以我想从他的发言中读一读。 |
| 37 | You know, he starts off by saying, though my brief acquaintance with Epstein ended years | 你知道,他一开始说, 虽然我和爱泼斯坦的短暂熟人结束了几年 |
| 38 | before his crimes came to light, and though I never witnessed during our limited interactions | 在他的罪行曝光之前, 虽然我从来没有看到 在我们有限的互动 |
| 39 | any indication of what was truly going on, I am here to offer what little I know so that | 我在这里提供我所知道的一切 |
| 40 | it might prevent anything like this from ever happening again. | 它可能会阻止这种事再次发生 |
| 41 | He later goes on to say, you'll often hear me say that I don't recall. | 他后来继续说, 你会经常听到我说我不记得了。 |
| 42 | That might be unsatisfying, but I'm not going to say something. | 这也许让人不满意 但我不会说些什么 |
| 43 | I'm not sure of. | 师曰未定. |
| 44 | This was all a long time ago, and I'm bound by my oath not to speculate or guess. | 这都是很久以前的事了,我发誓不猜测或猜测 |
| 45 | So in addition to that, the former president also critical of the committee for bringing | 因此除了这个之外,前任主席也批评委员会,认为它能带来 |
| 46 | in his wife, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, yesterday. | 昨天他妻子前国务卿希拉里·克林顿 |
| 47 | On that front, he said at the outset, before we start, I have to get personal. | 在那方面,他说,一开始,在我们开始之前,我必须针对个人。 |
| 48 | You made Hillary come in. | 你让希拉里进来了 |
| 49 | She had nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein, nothing. | 她和杰弗里·爱泼斯坦毫无关系 |
| 50 | She has no memory of even meeting him. | 她甚至不记得见过他 |
| 51 | She neither traveled with him nor visited any of his properties, whether you subpoenaed | 她既未与他一起旅行,也未访问他的任何房产,无论你是否传唤 |
| 52 | 10 people or 10,000, including her, was simply not right. | 包括她在内的10人或1万人完全不对。 |
| 53 | So those just a couple of excerpts from the former president, a testimony before the House | 所以这些只是前总统的几个摘录, 众议院的证词 |
| 54 | Oversight Committee, and now underway, Mugo. | 监督委员会,现在正在进行,穆戈。 |
| 55 | And Nicole, just yesterday from her secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, she said it's unfortunate | 妮可,就在昨天 她的国务卿希拉里·克林顿说很不幸 |
| 56 | that this deposition is not public. | 这个证词不公开 |
| 57 | So is there any talks of a public hearing in maybe the near future? | 那么,在也许最近的将来,是否有任何公开听证会的谈话? |
| 58 | No. | 没有 |
| 59 | And I asked the secretary just that yesterday when she addressed the cameras right behind | 我昨天问秘书说 她把摄像机放在后面 |
| 60 | me, because at the end of the day, that was what both she and her husband have been calling | 我,因为最后 她和她丈夫都这么说 |
| 61 | for, that these depositions be done publicly, that this be done in a public setting, that | 因为,这些证词应公开发表,在公开场合发表, |
| 62 | there is a public hearing. | 有公开听证会。 |
| 63 | And I did ask her specifically if she still wants to testify publicly, even though she | 我确实特别问她 她是否还想公开作证 尽管她 |
| 64 | gave this deposition behind closed doors yesterday, she flatly said, I'm not going to do this | 她直言不讳地说 我不会这么做 |
| 65 | again. | 再来 |
| 66 | So that is a definitive no on her part. | 所以她肯定不会这么做的 |
| 67 | You know, Chairman Comer, however, defended the way that this situation has been handled, | 但是,科梅尔主席为处理这种情况的方式辩护, |
| 68 | arguing that it has taken some seven months to get the Clintons before this committee. | 认为花了大约七个月时间 让克林顿夫妇出席这个委员会 |
| 69 | You know, there was a lot of back and forth with their legal team. | 你知道,有很多 前后与他们的法律团队。 |
| 70 | They were supposed to appear for depositions last fall. | 他们本应在去年秋天出庭作证 |
| 71 | They were subpoenaed last summer, I would point out, back in August. | 去年夏天他们被传票了 我想说的是 8月份 |
| 72 | They were given a number of dates where they could appear before the panel on Capitol Hill. | 他们得到了一些日期 他们可以出席国会山的小组。 |
| 73 | Ultimately, this all came to a head last month when they were asked to appear for a | 上个月他们被要求来参加一场婚礼时, 这一切终于浮出水面 |
| 74 | deposition in January. | 1月作证。 |
| 75 | They did not show. | 他们没有出现。 |
| 76 | They sent a very strongly worded letter to the committee saying that they felt that this | 他们给委员会发了一封措辞强烈的信 说他们觉得 |
| 77 | was being done to politically embarrass them and that the request from the committee wasn't | 被做 在政治上羞辱他们 和委员会的要求不是 |
| 78 | legally valid. | (b) 具有法律效力。 |
| 79 | Ultimately, the committee ended up voting to hold them in contempt of Congress. | 最终,委员会最终投票认为他们藐视国会. |
| 80 | And literally as that measure was about to go to the House floor for a vote is when this | 而实际上,当这项措施 即将进入众议院的 投票是当 |
| 81 | was reached with Clinton's legal team to do these depositions here this week. | 与克林顿的法律团队联系 做这些证词 本周在这里。 |
| 82 | So that is how this all came to pass. | 事情就是这样发生的。 |
| 83 | And even still, the Clintons wanted this to be public. | 即使如此,克林顿一家也希望这个公开. |
| 84 | But again, Chairman Comer saying that, you know, look, we've got to get these depositions | 再说一遍,Comer主席说,你知道, 听着,我们得拿到这些证词 |
| 85 | done first. | 先说 |
| 86 | That is how we have handled other witnesses. | 这就是我们处理其他证人的方式。 |
| 87 | Then we will consider a public hearing. | 然后,我们将考虑公开听证。 |
| 88 | But again, Secretary Clinton last night appeared to close the door on that when I asked her. | 但同样,克林顿国务卿昨晚在我问她时,似乎关上了门。 |
| 89 | 好吧,Nicole Kalyan今天在纽约为我们服务。 | |
| 90 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 91 | And now let's bring in CBS News legal reporter Katrina Kaufman. | 现在请CBS新闻法律记者卡特里娜·考夫曼来 |
| 92 | Katrina, as we said, Hillary Clinton, she testified just yesterday. | 卡特里娜 正如我们所说 希拉里·克林顿 她昨天作证了 |
| 93 | It's her husband's turn today. | 今天轮到她丈夫了 |
| 94 | So what kind of precedent does this set? | 那么,这是什么样的先例呢? |
| 95 | Well, what House Democrats are hoping is that this will set a precedent that will ultimately | 众议院民主党人希望这能开创一个先例 最终 |
| 96 | force President Donald Trump to testify. | 迫使唐纳德·特朗普总统作证. |
| 97 | They say that ultimately they feel the wrong president is being deposed here. | 他们说他们最终觉得 总统被废黜了 |
| 98 | And it is significant to note that former President Bill Clinton is the first former | 值得注意的是,前总统比尔·克林顿是第一位 |
| 99 | or sitting president to testify before Congress in over 40 years. | 或现任总统40多年后在国会作证 |
| 100 | He's the first to be forced to compel with a subpoena in the past. | 他是第一个用传票强迫他 |
| 101 | President Trump actually refused to comply with a subpoena when Congress was investigating | 特朗普总统在国会调查时 拒绝遵守传票 |
| 102 | the January 6th riot at the Capitol. | 1月6日在国会发生的骚乱 |
| 103 | So this could set a very important precedent, also with the fact that Hillary Clinton was | 因此这可以开创一个非常重要的先例,同样随着希拉里·克林顿是 |
| 104 | brought in here. | 带进来的 |
| 105 | As Nicole was saying, Hillary has said that she had no knowledge of anything | 正如妮可所说 希拉里说她什么都不知道 |
| 106 | that Epstein did. | 爱泼斯坦做的。 |
| 107 | There wasn't really evidence of that in the files even. | 档案里甚至没有证据 |
| 108 | So this could also potentially be used as a precedent to bring in Melania Trump for | 因此,这也有可能被用作一个先例,将梅拉尼亚·特朗普引入 |
| 109 | questioning as well. | 也质疑。 |
| 110 | We're also learning that Representative Nancy Mace has said that they plan to ask | 我们也在得知 南希·梅斯议员说 他们打算问 |
| 111 | Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick to come before Congress. | 商务部长霍华德・吕特尼克 来国会。 |
| 112 | We know that he visited Epstein's island. | 我们知道他去了爱泼斯坦岛 |
| 113 | There's absolutely Democratic support for that as well. | 这一点也绝对有民主党的支持. |
| 114 | So it looks like it could get enough votes. | 因此,看起来它可以得到足够的选票。 |
| 115 | So that could be a preview of what's to come. | 因此,这可能是一个预览 未来。 |
| 116 | And just to add one other thing to what you were talking about with Nicole and President | 在你和妮可和总统的谈话中 加上另外一件事 |
| 117 | Clinton's opening statement, another thing that struck me from it is he said that he's | 克林顿的开场白让我印象深刻的是 他说他是 |
| 118 | someone who grew up in a home where there was domestic abuse. | 在一个有家庭虐待的家庭长大的 |
| 119 | And what he wrote was that if he had known about Jeffrey Epstein's actions, he said, | 他写道,如果他知道 杰弗里·爱泼斯坦的行为, 他说, |
| 120 | Not only would I not have flown on his plane, if I had any inkling of what he was | 我不仅不会坐他的飞机 如果我有他是什么 |
| 121 | doing, I would have turned to men myself. | 做,我会 转向男人自己。 |
| 122 | OK, Katrina Kaufman, thank you so much for your reporting. | 卡特里娜·考夫曼 谢谢你的报导 |
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