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Meta 与 AMD 达成价值“数百亿美元”的交易 | 20

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0:01Ian, I'm going to start with you, the basics of the deal, 6 gigawatts over time, AMD accelerators伊恩,我要从你开始,交易的基本原理, 6千兆瓦随时间推移,AMD加速器
0:07but also other gear, it's a big deal for them.但其他的装备,对他们来说是件大事
0:09Yeah, it's a real endorsement from one of the biggest buyers of this kind of equipment.是啊,这是真正的背书 从这种设备的最大买家之一。
0:13Obviously, they're playing catch up with Nvidia who had their own deal with Meta last week,显然,他们正在追赶Nvidia 他们上周和Meta有过交易,
0:18so this is a real strong affirmation and it also includes a share of warrants as well因此,这是一个真正有力的确认,它还包括一部分逮捕令
0:23that are going to Meta.那会是去梅塔。
0:25Riley, this is all about Meta compute.莱利,这是关于梅塔计算。
0:27Talk us through just how large the scale is for demand for this sort of infrastructure right now.告诉我们,现在对这种基础设施的需求有多大。
0:33It's insatiable demand from Meta.这是Meta的无厌需求.
0:35Mark Zuckerberg last month announced Meta compute with ambitions to get hundreds of gigawatts马克・扎克伯格上个月宣布了梅塔计算 以获得数百千兆瓦的野心
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1Ian, I'm going to start with you, the basics of the deal, 6 gigawatts over time, AMD accelerators伊恩,我要从你开始,交易的基本原理, 6千兆瓦随时间推移,AMD加速器
2but also other gear, it's a big deal for them.但其他的装备,对他们来说是件大事
3Yeah, it's a real endorsement from one of the biggest buyers of this kind of equipment.是啊,这是真正的背书 从这种设备的最大买家之一。
4Obviously, they're playing catch up with Nvidia who had their own deal with Meta last week,显然,他们正在追赶Nvidia 他们上周和Meta有过交易,
5so this is a real strong affirmation and it also includes a share of warrants as well因此,这是一个真正有力的确认,它还包括一部分逮捕令
6that are going to Meta.那会是去梅塔。
7Riley, this is all about Meta compute.莱利,这是关于梅塔计算。
8Talk us through just how large the scale is for demand for this sort of infrastructure right now.告诉我们,现在对这种基础设施的需求有多大。
9It's insatiable demand from Meta.这是Meta的无厌需求.
10Mark Zuckerberg last month announced Meta compute with ambitions to get hundreds of gigawatts马克・扎克伯格上个月宣布了梅塔计算 以获得数百千兆瓦的野心
11to fuel its data centers and ultimately reach that super intelligence goal where AI can outpace* 为其数据中心提供燃料,并最终达到AI能够超越的超级情报目标
12human intelligence and this is just the latest in a frenzy of deals.人类的智慧和这仅仅是 疯狂交易中的最新。
13Again, we're anticipating $135 billion in CapEx this year but now we know the spending won't stop.再说一遍,我们预计今年会投入1 350亿美元, 但是现在我们知道开支不会停止。
14The warrants part is very interesting.搜查令部分很有趣
15It's very similar to what AMD did with OpenAI.它与AMD对OpenAI的处理非常相似.
16There are operational and financial milestones in both directions in order for Meta to potentially有两个方向的业务和财务里程碑,使Meta有可能
17become a very big shareholder of AMD.成为AMD的非常大股东.
18Could you explain that Ian?你能解释一下伊恩吗?
19Yeah, I mean the way to look at it, Lisa Su said, look this basically ties us closer to是啊,我的意思是看的方式,丽莎·苏说, 看这基本上 联系我们更接近
20They get these shares if we're in a very good position.如果我们处于非常有利的地位 他们就能拿到这些股份
21I mean the last tranche I believe is about $600.我的意思是,我认为最后一笔 大约600美元。
22Yesterday they closed at less than $200 so we've got a room to go before that becomes a reality.昨天,他们关闭 不到200美元 所以,我们有一个房间 去之前成为现实。
23But her point was that this kind of locks us together and tightens our relationship.但是她的意思是 这种方式把我们锁在一起 并收紧我们的关系。
24It was really interesting to read through the materials in our reporting, Riley.读一下我们报告里的材料 很有意思 Riley
25Like AMD has played this card before, the emphasis is on inference.像AMD之前打过这张牌一样,强调的就是推论.
26So MI450 generation of Accelerator, the engineering teams will work together.因此,MI450代加速器,工程团队将合作.
27But the inference part, is there anything unique about this different to what Meta is doing with Nvidia?但推论部分 和Meta对Nvidia所做的有什么不同吗?
28Because we had a very similar deal very recently.因为我们最近有类似的交易
29It's a really good question.这是一个非常好的问题。
30Not only is it similar to what Meta is doing with Nvidia, but Meta also has its own internal不仅和Meta和Nvidia一起做的类似,而且Meta也有自己的内部
31pipeline of custom chips that it's building for AI purposes.管道的定制芯片 它正在建造的AI目的。
32What we heard yesterday is that they see different applications, different workloads here being我们昨天听到的是 他们看到不同的申请 不同的工作量是
33supported by all three of those verticals.由这三根竖杆支撑。
34And so they're trying to diversify as they pursue this massive scale in terms of compute.因此,他们试图在计算上 追求这种大规模的多样化。
35Ian, take us back to Nvidia, because we've got their earnings coming up tomorrow.伊恩 带我们回恩维迪亚 因为我们明天有他们的收入
36And how much does this show that there is anxiety that companies are diversifying,这多少表明公司正在多样化,
37looking at AMD, looking at their own in-house chips?看AMD,看他们自己的内部芯片?
38Or actually does it still not concern Nvidia is still dominant?还是恩维迪亚仍然占主导地位?
39I mean, at this point, all we can do is say, look at the numbers and the numbers,我的意思是,在这一点上,我们所能做的是说, 看看数字和数字,
40assuming Nvidia comes in and executes on what Wall Street thinks it's going to do.假设Nvidia进来 执行华尔街认为会做的事
41The numbers say there's no anxiety here.数字显示这里没有焦虑
42All boats are floating.所有船只都漂浮着.
43Everybody is benefiting from the same massive spending in equal measure.每个人都在同等程度上受益于同样的大规模开支。
44And I guess what would change that would be if Nvidia does not hit those targets,我想如果Nvidia没有击中那些目标 将会有什么变化
45does not exceed those targets.不超过这些目标。
46That, I think, would change the conversation considerably.我认为,这将大大改变对话。
47And Riley, the conversation is nuanced when it comes to capital expenditure.而莱利,对话在资本支出方面是细微的.
48Many would say, yes, a lot of it is about the chips.很多人会说,是的,很多都是关于筹码的。
49It is about the data centers, but it's also about the power.这是关于数据中心, 但它也是关于电源。
50Can we understand really how much Metra is having to focus in on where they can spend我们是否真的能理解 Metra 需要专注于他们能花多少钱
51on GPUs or their own homegrown chips and where they do it globally as well?在GPU上,或者他们自己的土生土长的芯片 以及他们在全球做什么?
52So we asked yesterday where they thought they would deploy these chips,我们昨天问他们想在哪里部署这些芯片
53and they couldn't specify which data centers.他们无法说明哪个数据中心
54We know that some of their biggest projects are targeting five gigawatts, right?我们知道,他们的一些最大项目 是针对五千兆瓦,对不对?
55But they need to get certain regulatory approvals and they need energy companies但他们需要得到某些监管批准 需要能源公司
56to be able to deliver.能够提供。
57They're on the ground.诸人于地.
58So as for the merging of the energy and the compute here, time will tell as we home所以,对于这里的能量和计算, 时间会告诉我们 当我们回家
59in on where those chips will actually go.说到那些芯片实际去的地方
60It's probably time for a bit of a reality check in.也许是时候做个真实的检查了
61And I'm hoping that you'll provide it for us.我希望你能为我们提供它。
62Like in any given quarter right now, AMD is going to do $10 billion of revenue,就像现在的任何季度 AMD都会赚100亿美元的收入
63all told, every single segment.都说了,每个部分
64Nvidia's data center business is at more than $50 billion a quarter.Nvidia的数据中心业务每季度超过500亿美元.
65Yes, that includes networking, but they're now one and the same, right?是的,这包括联网, 但是现在他们是一个,对不对?
66You can't have chips without the other.你不能有芯片 没有另一个。
67How do we know if this is evidence that AMD is catching up?我们怎么知道这是否是AMD追上的证据?
68I mean, again, you have to go back to the percentages, the growth percentages.我的意思是,再次, 你必须回到百分比, 增长百分比。
69At the moment, both of them would say, you know, this isn't about competition.现在,他们都说, 你知道,这不是关于竞争。
70This is about there's so much demand.这是关于有这么多的需求。
71A company like Meta, which makes its own chips, is buying from both of us.像Meta这样的公司 制造自己的芯片 正在从我们两个那里买东西
72That would be the answer.这就是答案。
73But ultimately, when the market slows down, and you can be the judge of when that happens,但最终,当市场放缓, 你可以判断什么时候发生,
74then we'll see the market share shift, because then it'll really matter.然后我们就会看到市场份额的变化, 因为那样的话,它真的会很重要。
75Meta is not a hyperscaler, but it operates its own data centers at hyperscale,Meta不是超尺度的,但它在超尺度操作自己的数据中心,
76if you know what I mean.你知道我的意思吗?
77I'm thinking back to when Mark Zuckerberg was sat next to the president.我想回马克·扎克伯格坐在总统旁边的时候
78$600 billion over the next few years.后数年计六千亿.
79And then he's also talked about this idea that they might misspend $200 billion here or there,然后他还谈到这个想法 他们可能错用两千亿美元在这里或那里,
80here or there, but that's no bad thing.这里或那里, 但这不是坏事。
81He's frontloading purchases.他在前头装货
82Just explain his thesis a bit.解释一下他的论文
83Yeah, his strategy is just that.是的,他的策略就是这样。
84He's used the language of frontloading capacity.他使用了前装能力的语言.
85They're going to try to get as much as they can, gobble it up while there's still availability.他们将尽可能多地 趁还有空闲时间把它挖出来
86And this, he says, could be applied not just for AI purposes, but for that core social他说,这不仅可用于AI目的,而且可用于核心社会
87media business, which still drives more than 98% of their revenue, right?媒体业务,它仍然驱动 98%以上的收入,对不对?
88So they see applications across the board and they're not worried about getting too much in the interim.因此他们看到各种应用,他们并不担心在过渡期间得到太多.
89Ian, why does AMD have to keep giving its shares away?伊恩 为什么AMD要继续放弃股份?
90Again, we asked Lisa about this, and she said that this is Lisa Su, the CEO, and she said我们再次问丽莎这件事 她说这是丽莎·苏 首席执行官 她说
91this is different than the OpenAI ideal.这不同于OpenAI的理想.
92The OpenAI ideal is a slightly different arrangement.OpenAI理想是一种稍有不同的安排.
93That is a company, obviously, that is seeking liquidity.显然,这是一家寻求流动性的公司。
94Meta clearly does not need liquidity.Meta显然不需要流动性。
95This is just a way of showing Meta's commitment to what they're doing.这仅仅是表明梅塔致力于他们的行为的一种方式.
96You've got to remember that AMD is only a couple of generations into being any type你必须记住AMD只是几代人成为任何类型
97of presence at all in this market.在这个市场上的存在。
98So if a big buyer of this stuff comes along and says, oh, we like your gear, or guess所以,如果一个大买家来了 说,哦,我们喜欢你的装备,或猜测
99what, we also like you as a company, like your prospects, then that is somehow a bigger什么,我们也喜欢你作为一个公司, 像你的前景, 那么这多少是一个更大的
100validation than just a straight purchase agreement.不只是直接购买协议
101And that really was what they were pushing as an idea that, look, this is how closely而这正是他们所推动的 一个想法,你看,这是如何接近
102we are tied together.我们被绑在一起。
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