伊朗王子礼萨·巴列维认为政权最终可能垮台 | 2026.3.
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| 0:01 | Tonight, the most prominent member of the Iranian opposition says he believes the Iranian | 今晚,伊朗反对派最著名的成员说他相信伊朗人 |
| 0:08 | regime is collapsing and he would like to lead a transition that makes Iran safe for | 伊朗政权正在崩溃,他希望领导一个过渡,使伊朗能够安全无虞, |
| 0:13 | the world. | 这个世界。 |
| 0:15 | 65-year-old Reza Pahlavi is the son of the former king, or Shah of Iran, who was deposed | 65岁的Reza Pahlavi是被废黜的前国王或伊朗的沙阿的儿子 |
| 0:22 | in 1979 by revolutionaries and hardline Islamic clerics. | 1979年,革命者和强硬的伊斯兰神职人员。 |
| 0:28 | In that year of revolution, Pahlavi was 18 years old and living in Lubbock, Texas, where | 当年革命时期,帕赫拉维年仅18岁,住在德克萨斯州的卢布博克. |
| 0:35 | the U.S. Air Force was training him to be a fighter pilot. | 美国空军训练他当战斗机飞行员 |
| 0:39 | He was never able to go home. | 他始终无法回家。 |
| 0:41 | He has lived in exile 47 years, mostly in the United States. | 他已经流亡47年,大部分在美国. |
| 0:47 | But tonight, he's in Paris, where we asked him if he wants to be king, what Iran's | 但是今晚他在巴黎 我们问他要不要当国王 |
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| 1 | Tonight, the most prominent member of the Iranian opposition says he believes the Iranian | 今晚,伊朗反对派最著名的成员说他相信伊朗人 |
| 2 | regime is collapsing and he would like to lead a transition that makes Iran safe for | 伊朗政权正在崩溃,他希望领导一个过渡,使伊朗能够安全无虞, |
| 3 | the world. | 这个世界。 |
| 4 | 65-year-old Reza Pahlavi is the son of the former king, or Shah of Iran, who was deposed | 65岁的Reza Pahlavi是被废黜的前国王或伊朗的沙阿的儿子 |
| 5 | in 1979 by revolutionaries and hardline Islamic clerics. | 1979年,革命者和强硬的伊斯兰神职人员。 |
| 6 | In that year of revolution, Pahlavi was 18 years old and living in Lubbock, Texas, where | 当年革命时期,帕赫拉维年仅18岁,住在德克萨斯州的卢布博克. |
| 7 | the U.S. Air Force was training him to be a fighter pilot. | 美国空军训练他当战斗机飞行员 |
| 8 | He was never able to go home. | 他始终无法回家。 |
| 9 | He has lived in exile 47 years, mostly in the United States. | 他已经流亡47年,大部分在美国. |
| 10 | But tonight, he's in Paris, where we asked him if he wants to be king, what Iran's | 但是今晚他在巴黎 我们问他要不要当国王 |
| 11 | policy should be toward Israel and nuclear weapons. | 政策应针对以色列和核武器。 |
| 12 | We started our interview with the news that the supreme leader of Iran, Ayatollah Khamenei, | 我们开始采访伊朗最高领导人阿亚图拉·哈梅内伊, |
| 13 | had been killed in the opening hours of the war. | 在开战时阵亡 |
| 14 | It is definitely a sort of earth-shattering event in the sense that when people identify | 这绝对是震撼地球的事件 当人们发现 |
| 15 | the entire monstrosity of the regime that is depicted ultimately by the chief monster | 最终被头目怪物描绘的 整个政权的混乱 |
| 16 | of these monsters, when he's gone, the minute such a personality disappears, it's like elation. | 这些怪物,当他走了, 一分钟这样一个个性消失, 这就像喜悦。 |
| 17 | It was like, oh my God, it has finally occurred. | 这就像,哦,我的上帝, 它终于发生了。 |
| 18 | Maybe this is it. | 也许就是这个 |
| 19 | This is our chance now. | 这是我们的机会了。 |
| 20 | You call him a monster. | 你说他是怪物 |
| 21 | What do you mean? | 你说什么? |
| 22 | Well, I mean, ever since this regime has taken over, how many Iranians' lives have been lost. | 嗯,我的意思是,自从这个政权接管以后, 有多少伊朗人失去了生命。 |
| 23 | I don't think we can have an example of such level of atrocity ever in the history of Iran | 我认为,在伊朗历史上,我们不可能有这样程度的暴行的例子。 |
| 24 | or at this contemporary Iran that has occurred under this regime. | 或在这个政权统治下的当代伊朗。 |
| 25 | And this is all because of Ali Khamenei's insistence and persistence to keep himself | 这都是因为阿里·哈梅内伊坚持和坚持要保住自己 |
| 26 | and his mafia regime in power at the expense of the Iranian people. | 以及他掌权的黑手党政权 牺牲了伊朗人民 |
| 27 | I don't know how else can you depict it other than being true monsters in the real sense of the word. | 我不知道除了真正意义上的怪物之外,你还能怎么形容它呢. |
| 28 | This past January, Iranians poured into the streets. | 今年一月,伊朗人涌入街头。 |
| 29 | Pahlavi urged them on and hundreds of thousands marched. | 帕哈维敦促他们继续前进,数十万人游行. |
| 30 | The regime gunned down an estimated 20,000 citizens. | 该政权枪杀了大约20 000名公民。 |
| 31 | The massacre was a prelude to war. | 大屠杀是战争的前奏. |
| 32 | This is video overnight after the announcement of the death of the Ayatollah in the city | 这是在阿亚图拉市宣布死亡之后的一夜间录像 |
| 33 | of Isfahan. | 伊斯法罕宫 |
| 34 | What does that mean to you? | 这对你意味着什么? |
| 35 | That means that finally we are ready to go back to the streets, even though I've cautioned | 也就是说我们终于可以回到街头了 尽管我已经警告过 |
| 36 | them that for now, you better take care of your own safety and stay at home. | 现在,你最好照顾好你自己的安全 留在家里。 |
| 37 | The time will come to go back on the streets. | 现在是时候回到街头了 |
| 38 | But then again, you see that despite that, people still are brave enough to say to hell | 再说一遍,尽管如此,人们仍然勇敢地对地狱说 |
| 39 | with it. | 用这个 |
| 40 | Because to us, it's liberation. | 因为对我们来说,这是解放。 |
| 41 | To us, it's like a humanitarian intervention to protect lives that could otherwise continue | 对我们来说,这就像一个人道主义干预 保护生命 否则可以继续 |
| 42 | to be lost. | 将迷失 |
| 43 | It gives the Iranian people a real opportunity now when they see the end of this regime that | 它给伊朗人民一个真正的机会,当他们看到这个政权的终结时: |
| 44 | was always bound to collapse, whether there was an intervention or not. | 无论是否有干预,都注定会崩溃。 |
| 45 | I want to make sure your audience understand that we were prepared to fight the fight. | 我想让你们的观众明白 我们准备战斗 |
| 46 | There was too much blood between us and this regime. | 我们和这个政权之间血流不止。 |
| 47 | We were committed to fight regardless of outside intervention, thanking President Trump from | 我们承诺无论外来干预都要战斗, |
| 48 | actually standing on his word and acting upon his word. | 实际站在他的话 并履行他的话。 |
| 49 | Do you actually believe this regime could fall after almost 50 years? | 你真的相信这个政权在将近50年后会垮台吗? |
| 50 | Of course. | 当然 |
| 51 | Prince Reza Pahlavi told us he wants to lead Iran in a transition to democracy. | Reza Pahlavi亲王告诉我们,他希望领导伊朗走向民主。 |
| 52 | You don't want to be king? | 你不想当国王吗? |
| 53 | I'm not running for office. | 我不会竞选公职的 |
| 54 | I'm not. | 我没有。 |
| 55 | Are you saying in this interview that you wouldn't lead Iran? | 你在接受采访时说 你不会领导伊朗? |
| 56 | That's a different thing. | 这不一样 |
| 57 | They trust me as a transitional leader, not as the future king or future president or | 他们信任我作为过渡领袖 而不是未来的国王或未来的总统 |
| 58 | future whatever. | 未来什么的。 |
| 59 | I'm totally focused on my mission in life, which is let me bring the country to a point | 我完全专注于我的使命 在生活中, 让我带国家到一个点 |
| 60 | that they can make that free choice. | 他们可以做出自由选择 |
| 61 | That will be enough for me having said mission accomplished. | 对我来说,完成使命就够了。 |
| 62 | You imagine peace with Israel? | 你想象着和以色列和平相处? |
| 63 | Of course. | 当然 |
| 64 | In modern history, Iran actually gave refuge to Jews that were escaping the Nazis during | 在现代史上,伊朗实际上为逃离纳粹的犹太人提供了庇护 |
| 65 | the Second World War, giving them refuge and sanctuary in Iran. | 给予他们在伊朗的庇护和庇护 |
| 66 | The strategic importance of having a partnership with Israel is critical. | 与以色列建立伙伴关系的战略重要性至关重要。 |
| 67 | What are the principles on which you would build a new Iran? | 你建新伊朗所依据的原则是什么? |
| 68 | I think what today unites us are four core principles that I think is the subject of | 我认为,今天使我们团结起来的是四项核心原则。 |
| 69 | how we can work together towards that end. | 我们如何能够为此目的共同努力。 |
| 70 | Number one is Iran's territorial integrity. | 第一是伊朗的领土完整。 |
| 71 | Number two is the clear separation of religion from state, which is a prerequisite to democracy, | 二是政教分离,这是民主的先决条件, |
| 72 | and we pay the price understanding what it means to live under a religious dictatorship. | 我们付出的代价是理解在宗教独裁统治下生活意味着什么。 |
| 73 | Number three is, of course, equality of all citizens under the law and individual liberties. | 当然,第三种是所有公民在法律面前一律平等和个人自由。 |
| 74 | And most importantly, the process, a democratic process, to allow the people to elect and | 最重要的是,这一进程,一个民主进程,使人民能够选举和 |
| 75 | decide what their future system of governance should be. | 决定未来治理制度应是什么。 |
| 76 | What would happen to the nuclear weapons program? | 核武器计划会怎么样? |
| 77 | I think it should be totally dismantled. | 我认为它应该完全拆除。 |
| 78 | I don't think Iran has any need to pursue a military weaponizing of the nuclear program. | 我认为伊朗没有必要对核计划进行军事化武器化。 |
| 79 | Pahlavi's father was the last king. | 帕哈维的父亲是最后一个国王. |
| 80 | Mohammed Reza Pahlavi was close to the United States, but he brutally suppressed opposition | 穆罕默德·雷扎·帕哈维与美国关系密切,但他残酷镇压反对派 |
| 81 | and showered friends with lavish wealth. | 他们以丰富的财产为朋友。 |
| 82 | In 1979, he left Iran amid rising political tension, and a hardline cleric, Ayatollah | 1979年,他在政治紧张局势加剧的情况下离开伊朗,一位强硬的神职人员阿亚图拉 |
| 83 | Khomeini, returned from exile to lead a revolution. | 霍梅尼,从流亡回国领导革命. |
| 84 | Iranians blamed the U.S. for supporting the king, and revolutionaries overran the U.S. | 伊朗人指责美国支持国王,革命者压倒了美国. |
| 85 | embassy in Tehran and held 52 Americans hostage for 444 days. | 驻德黑兰大使馆将52名美国人扣为人质444天. |
| 86 | Your father's reign is remembered for repression and opulent wealth. | 你父亲的统治被人们以压迫和奢侈的财富铭记. |
| 87 | And I wonder why you believe the people would welcome you now. | 我想知道你为什么相信人们会欢迎你 |
| 88 | Well, you know, that's perhaps one narrative. | 嗯,你知道,这可能是一个叙述。 |
| 89 | But when you look at a lot of people who were, at the time, living that era, they were telling | 但当你看着很多人 谁当时生活在那个时代, 他们告诉 |
| 90 | me, you know what, we recognize where we were and where we are now. | 我,你知道什么,我们承认 我们在哪里,我们现在在哪里。 |
| 91 | And today we want to be with you. | 今天我们想和你在一起 |
| 92 | We support you. | 我们支持你。 |
| 93 | We back you. | 我们支持你。 |
| 94 | And there were people who were in those so-called prisons that were notorious or repressive or | 也有人在那些所谓的监狱里 臭名昭著 或被镇压 |
| 95 | whatever you call. | 随你怎么说 |
| 96 | They were in prison under the previous regime. | 他们在前政权统治下的监狱中。 |
| 97 | People were killed in your father's regime. | 你父亲的政权里有人被杀了 |
| 98 | Look, look, my father left Iran voluntarily to avoid bloodshed. | 听着 我父亲自愿离开伊朗 以避免流血 |
| 99 | And he said, he said, I'm a king. | 他说,他说,我是国王。 |
| 100 | A king doesn't build his throne on the blood of his own people. | 王不以自民之血为建王位. |
| 101 | If the nation today wants me out, I would leave. | 如果国家今天想要我出去 我会离开 |
| 102 | I will not turn my guns on them. | 我不会用枪指着他们 |
| 103 | You have been out of the country for nearly 50 years. | 你出国已经近50年了 |
| 104 | Why would the people want you? | 为什么人们想要你? |
| 105 | If they thought that was an issue, I don't think they'll be calling my name by the millions | 如果他们认为这是个问题, 我不认为他们会叫我的名字 以数百万 |
| 106 | on the streets of Iran. | 在伊朗街头。 |
| 107 | I think that part of the reason people trust me only is because they cannot associate me | 我想人们之所以信任我 是因为他们不能联系我 |
| 108 | in any way or form to the revolution or to be part of this regime. | 以任何形式或形式参加革命或成为该政权的一部分。 |
| 109 | The very same people who today are in the streets, all the young kids that are getting | 和今天一样的人在街上, 所有年轻的孩子正在得到 |
| 110 | shot and massacred by this regime are a generation that turns to their parents and tell them, | 被这个政权枪杀和屠杀的一代人 转向他们的父母,告诉他们, |
| 111 | what the hell were you thinking? | 你他妈的在想什么? |
| 112 | What was that madness to think that this Khomeini character is going to be our solution and | 何以疯狂地认为霍梅尼这个角色 将成为我们的解决方案 |
| 113 | our path to freedom? | 我们的自由之路? |
| 114 | And look at where we are now. | 看看我们现在在哪 |
| 115 | But from the day I left, I never left Iran. | 但从我离开那天起,我从未离开过伊朗。 |
| 116 | Iran had been on my mind every single year of my life. | 伊朗在我生命的每一年都在我心中。 |
| 117 | Every single... | 每一个... |
| 118 | When I wake up in the morning, the first thing that is in my mind is Iran. | 当我早上醒来时,我首先想到的是伊朗。 |
| 119 | Pahlavi told us he is in touch with the Trump administration and members of Congress. | 帕赫拉维告诉我们,他与特朗普政府和国会议员有联系. |
| 120 | What is your message to President Trump? | 你给特朗普总统的信息是什么? |
| 121 | My message to President Trump is that I'm here to echo and join millions of my compatriots | 我给特朗普总统的讯息是 我是来回应和加入数百万同胞的 |
| 122 | inside and outside of Iran to thank him for having done and having the courage to do what | 在伊朗内外感谢他的所做所为和勇气 |
| 123 | is not easy but intervene. | 并不容易,但进行干预。 |
| 124 | And he will go down in the annals of Iranian history as the most celebrated foreign leader | 作为最著名的外国领导人 他将在伊朗历史史上登台 |
| 125 | that changed the ballgame and changed the world as a result. | 从而改变了世界 |
| 126 | In January, President Trump said this about you, quote, he seems very nice, but I don't | 1月,川普总统 提到你,引用,他看起来很好, 但我不 |
| 127 | know how he'd play within his own country. | 知道他如何在自己的国家里演奏 |
| 128 | I don't know whether or not his country would accept his leadership. | 我不知道他的国家是否会接受他的领导. |
| 129 | And certainly, if they would, that would be fine with me. | 当然,如果他们愿意的话,那也没关系。 |
| 130 | You don't seem to have President Trump's wholehearted support. | 你似乎没有川普总统全心全意的支持. |
| 131 | Well, first of all, I don't think that somebody in my position will ever expect to have an | 首先,我不认为有人 在我的职位上 将永远期望有一个 |
| 132 | official endorsement of a foreign government or a foreign leader. | 官方认可外国政府或外国领导人。 |
| 133 | What I do know now is that millions of Iranians inside Iran and outside of Iran are calling | 我现在知道,伊朗内外的数百万伊朗人正在呼唤 |
| 134 | my name, that recognize in me the person uniquely placed to play a role of transitional | 我的名字,那承认我个人 唯一能够发挥过渡作用的人 |
| 135 | leadership, not running for office because that's not what I'm doing, but to be a bridge | 领导,不是竞选公职,因为我不是这么做的,而是当一座桥梁 |
| 136 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}命运 | |
| 137 | Unrest has been building for months. | Unrest已经建了好几个月了 |
| 138 | Last June, U.S. and Israeli forces attacked Iran's nuclear facilities. | 今年6月,美国和以色列部队袭击伊朗的核设施。 |
| 139 | And in 2022, one of the largest uprisings in the nearly 50-year history of the regime | 而2022年,是政权近50年历史上最大的一次起义. |
| 140 | erupted. | 爆发了。 |
| 141 | Iran's morality police arrested a 22-year-old woman accusing her of failing to cover her | 伊朗道德警察逮捕了一名22岁的妇女,指控她没有掩护她。 |
| 142 | hair. | 头发 |
| 143 | She was killed in custody, and crowds moved into the streets to demand an end to the regime. | 她被拘押时被杀害,人群纷纷上街要求结束政权. |
| 144 | Security forces killed more than 500, arrested 22,000, and blacked out the internet. | 安全部队杀害了500多人,逮捕了22,000人,并切断了互联网。 |
| 145 | Much of the population has been seething right through today. | 大部分人口今天一直在观察中。 |
| 146 | When you see the courage on the streets that we're witnessing now, I wonder how that moves | 当你看到我们所看到的街道上的勇气时, 我想知道这是怎么回事 |
| 147 | you. | 你们 |
| 148 | I think it's the ultimate definition of heroism. | 我认为这是英雄主义的最终定义. |
| 149 | Let me give you another visual that has been going viral on the cyberspace. | 让我给大家另一个在网络空间上传播的画面。 |
| 150 | That firefighter who was carrying a wounded person that was shot on the streets just a | 那个带伤员的消防员 在街上中枪 |
| 151 | few weeks ago, and they shot him to death. | 几周前 他们开枪打死了他 |
| 152 | That image, you know, exemplified that. | 那个形象,你知道的,就是这个例子。 |
| 153 | It's a tremendous thing to witness. | 这是一件巨大的事情 见证。 |
| 154 | Pahlavi told us there are units in the military and police who have signaled to him that they | Pahlavi告诉我们,军队和警察中有些单位 向他表示,他们 |
| 155 | would turn on the hardline government. | 将打开强硬的政府。 |
| 156 | He says many, but not all, troops could be given amnesty in a process of national reconciliation. | 他说,在民族和解进程中,可以赦免许多但并非全部的部队。 |
| 157 | And, in fact, it will be a clear indication that this is the time for them to make a decision. | 事实上,这将清楚地表明,现在是他们作出决定的时候了。 |
| 158 | Do you want to join this time with the people, or do you want to stand with the sinking ship? | 你想加入这次的人,还是要站在沉船边? |
| 159 | It's possible that this interview will penetrate the internet blackout, and I wonder what you | 可能这次采访会渗透到网络上, 我想知道你 |
| 160 | say to the Iranian people. | 对伊朗人民说 |
| 161 | Have faith in yourselves. | 对自己有信心 |
| 162 | You are a nation with an ancient civilization. | 你是一个有着古老文明的国家。 |
| 163 | I know how proud you are of your heritage, how important Iran is to all of them. | 我知道你对你的遗产有多自豪 伊朗对他们有多重要 |
| 164 | And I always said to them, I say, you know what? | 我总是对他们说,我说,你知道吗? |
| 165 | I know you're always hoping for a better future. | 我知道你一直希望有一个更美好的未来 |
| 166 | What I would like you to start doing, and I've started to answer my call, is instead | 我希望你开始做 我开始回答我的电话,而是 |
| 167 | of hoping, start believing that it can be done. | 希望,开始相信 这是可以做到的。 |
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