万斯还是鲁比奥？川普接班人之争提前升温 | 2026.5.1
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| 0:01 | Is there a new frontrunner in the shadow Republican race to succeed Donald Trump as president? | 影子共和党的竞选中是否有新的前锋接替唐纳德·特朗普出任总统?. |
| 0:08 | This week, everyone noticed Marco Rubio, first looking quite comfortable at the White House | 这周大家都注意到Marco Rubio 第一次在白宫很舒服 |
| 0:15 | briefing podium, then at the Vatican exchanging gifts with Pope Leo after weeks of President | 然后在梵蒂冈与教宗利奥交换礼物 |
| 0:22 | Trump criticizing the pontiff before Rubio went on to meet with Italy's prime minister. | 特朗普在鲁比奥继续会见意大利总理前批评庞蒂夫. |
| 0:28 | Of course, he is a secretary of state, but it's tough not to compare him with J.D. | 当然,他是国务秘书,但是不把他和J. D. |
| 0:34 | Vance, | 万斯 万斯 万斯 万斯 |
| 0:35 | the vice president, right now. | 副总统,现在。 |
| 0:37 | Sources have previously told us that President Trump has openly mused about his vice president's | 消息人士曾告诉我们,川普总统公开抱怨他的副总统 |
| 0:43 | performance and even asked friends to compare Vance with Rubio. | 表现甚至要求朋友将万斯和鲁比奥进行比较. |
| 0:49 | And that makes this video, uploaded by Rubio's team this week, seem all the more eyebrow | 鲁比奥的团队本周上传的这段视频 显得更眉毛 |
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| 1 | Is there a new frontrunner in the shadow Republican race to succeed Donald Trump as president? | 影子共和党的竞选中是否有新的前锋接替唐纳德·特朗普出任总统?. |
| 2 | This week, everyone noticed Marco Rubio, first looking quite comfortable at the White House | 这周大家都注意到Marco Rubio 第一次在白宫很舒服 |
| 3 | briefing podium, then at the Vatican exchanging gifts with Pope Leo after weeks of President | 然后在梵蒂冈与教宗利奥交换礼物 |
| 4 | Trump criticizing the pontiff before Rubio went on to meet with Italy's prime minister. | 特朗普在鲁比奥继续会见意大利总理前批评庞蒂夫. |
| 5 | Of course, he is a secretary of state, but it's tough not to compare him with J.D. | 当然,他是国务秘书,但是不把他和J. D. |
| 6 | Vance, | 万斯 万斯 万斯 万斯 |
| 7 | the vice president, right now. | 副总统,现在。 |
| 8 | Sources have previously told us that President Trump has openly mused about his vice president's | 消息人士曾告诉我们,川普总统公开抱怨他的副总统 |
| 9 | performance and even asked friends to compare Vance with Rubio. | 表现甚至要求朋友将万斯和鲁比奥进行比较. |
| 10 | And that makes this video, uploaded by Rubio's team this week, seem all the more eyebrow | 鲁比奥的团队本周上传的这段视频 显得更眉毛 |
| 11 | raising, shall we say. | 升起,我们说。 |
| 12 | What is your hope for America at a time such as this? | 在这样的时刻,你对美国有什么希望? |
| 13 | My hope for America? | 我对美国的希望? |
| 14 | My hope for America is what it's always been. | 我对美国的希望一直如此 |
| 15 | I think it's the hope I hope we all share. | 我认为这是希望,我希望我们都分享。 |
| 16 | We want it to continue to be the place where anyone from anywhere can achieve anything. | 我们希望它继续是任何地方的任何人能够取得任何成就的地方。 |
| 17 | Where you're not limited by the circumstances of your birth, by the color of your skin, | 在你不受出生环境,肤色的限制的地方 |
| 18 | by your ethnicity, but frankly, it's a place where you are able to overcome challenges | 老实说,这是你能克服挑战的地方 |
| 19 | and achieve your full potential. | 并实现你的全部潜力。 |
| 20 | Congressman, that ad, that video, I guess it's not an ad, it's a video, but still | 议员,那个广告,那个视频, 我想这不是一个广告, 这是一个视频, |
| 21 | it seems like a campaign ad, which I think is why I'm tripping on it. | 这似乎是一个竞选广告, 我想这就是为什么我要绊倒它。 |
| 22 | What did you make of Rubio's performance over the course of the past week? | 你对鲁比奥过去一周的表现有何评价? |
| 23 | I realize it's early, sort of baked in, but let's be real, it's always ongoing. | 我知道现在很早,有点烤熟, 但是,我们来真的吧,它总是持续的。 |
| 24 | Wow. | 珃 |
| 25 | That's what this week has shown for Team Rubio and for the interest of Republican activists | 这周鲁比奥队和共和党活动家们 都表现出来了 |
| 26 | around the country. | 全国各地 |
| 27 | We've always talked about the memes. | 我们总是谈论 迷因。 |
| 28 | The Rubio memes have so dominated this year of him sitting on the couch and then the multiple | 今年鲁比奥的迷宫 一直占据主导地位 他坐在沙发上,然后是多重 |
| 29 | different disguises of what he's doing. | 不同的伪装 他在做什么。 |
| 30 | Every job that is the most treacherous, worst job of the week, of the day, whatever the | 每一份工作都是最狡猾的,最糟糕的 每周,一天,不管怎样 |
| 31 | meme is. | и琌 |
| 32 | He was even the DJ briefly a couple weeks ago, I think we have a picture of that. | 几周前他甚至短暂地当了DJ 我想我们有一张照片 |
| 33 | I will admit that I don't know, I think I'm a little old for this meme, but here it is. | 我会承认我不知道, 我想我有点老了 这个meme,但在这里。 |
| 34 | There's the man himself. | 那个人就是他本人 |
| 35 | You've got to wonder what he's playing. | 你必须想知道他在玩什么 |
| 36 | Anyway, sorry. | 无论如何,对不起。 |
| 37 | But he's done it as a meme, and that shows you some level of political connectivity in | 但他做它作为一个meme, 这显示你 某种程度的政治连接 |
| 38 | this environment. | 这种环境。 |
| 39 | But this week showed that this internal apparatus around the White House is very interested | 但本周显示 白宫周围的内部机器非常感兴趣 |
| 40 | in his talent and what that could bring to Republican successor to President Trump. | 他的才华 以及这给共和党继任特朗普总统带来的结果 |
| 41 | Now, I think we have to ask the question though, does Rubio actually want it? | 现在,我想我们必须问这个问题,鲁比奥真的想要吗? |
| 42 | And that is a very secondary question to this whole atmosphere now. | 这是整个大气层的次要问题。 |
| 43 | Do you have any evidence that he doesn't want it? | 你有证据表明他不想要吗? |
| 44 | Of course he wants it. | 他当然想要 |
| 45 | What are you saying? | 你说什么? |
| 46 | Yeah, of course he wants it. | 是的,他当然想要。 |
| 47 | Also I will say that he was, it was a little masterful I would have to say, because he's | 我还要说,他是,这是一个小 高手,我不得不说,因为他是 |
| 48 | not only catering to Donald Trump, you're hearing his words also with Donald Trump on | 不仅向唐纳德·特朗普致敬 你听到他和唐纳德·特朗普的谈话 |
| 49 | the sort of, the screen and the video, which he understands who his audience is, he understands | 那种,屏幕和视频, 他理解他的观众是谁,他理解 |
| 50 | he needs Donald Trump to go out there and support him in order to have your base. | 他需要唐纳德·特朗普去支持他 以便拥有你的基地 |
| 51 | At the same time, he talks about you should not be limited by the color of your skin, | 同时,他谈到你时 不应该因为你的肤色而受到限制 |
| 52 | where you come from, et cetera, which are words that would never come out of Donald | 你来自哪里,等等, 这些词永远不会出自唐纳德 |
| 53 | Trump's mouth. | 特朗普的嘴. |
| 54 | And so at the same time, he's trying, seems like he's trying to appeal to a broader electorate, | 所以同时,他试图, 似乎他试图呼吁更广泛的选民, |
| 55 | which whoever runs will need to do that. | 不管谁跑 都得这么做 |
| 56 | Whether it works, whether that works in a MAGA primary, no clue, but he's starting to | 它是否有效, 是否工作在MAGA初级, 没有线索, 但他开始 |
| 57 | lay the groundwork on the two. | 为两者奠定基础。 |
| 58 | Even if it's not just a MAGA primary, the two silhouettes you saw in that video, one | 即使它不只是一个MAGA初级, 你看到的两个Silhouette 在视频,一个 |
| 59 | is Donald Trump, two, Ronald Reagan. | 是唐纳德·特朗普 第二,罗纳德·里根 |
| 60 | And he was speaking to, it's funny that you call it an ad, Kasey, because come on, it's | 他说话,这很有趣 你把它叫做广告,凯西,因为来吧,这是 |
| 61 | a campaign ad. | 一个竞选广告。 |
| 62 | I'm Marco Rubio and I approve this message. | 我是马可·鲁比奥 我同意这个消息 |
| 63 | He's Marco Rubio, he approves this message. | 他是马可·鲁比奥 他同意这个消息 |
| 64 | I mean, maybe my definition of ad is outdated, because who even really cares about traditional | 我的意思是,也许我的广告定义已经过时了, 因为谁甚至真正关心传统 |
| 65 | TV spend? | 电视费? |
| 66 | It's all about your phone anyway. | 反正都是你的电话 |
| 67 | Sorry. | 对不起 |
| 68 | But point being, there are two big voices in the American political right over the last | 但问题是,美国政治右派中 有两个大声音 |
| 69 | generation, Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump, and he seems to be speaking to, like you said, | 一代人,罗纳德·里根和唐纳德·特朗普, 他似乎在说话,就像你说的, |
| 70 | associate all things to all people, at least within who will be voting in that primary | 将一切与所有人联系在一起,至少是在谁将投票 在初级 |
| 71 | in a couple of years. | 在几年内。 |
| 72 | The message was vintage. | 信息是古董的。 |
| 73 | I mean, that was like a Rubio 2016 ad, like from pre-Trump times, like just the message, | 我的意思是,这就像一个Rubio 2016的广告, 像从川普前的时代, 像只是信息, |
| 74 | the inclusive message. | 包容性信息。 |
| 75 | I mean, it was, I also said, wow, when I saw that on his Twitter feed, like he's just blatantly | 我的意思是,我也说,哇, 当我在他的推特上看到这一点, 就像他只是公然 |
| 76 | launching a presidential campaign from his official account is what it looked like. | 从他的官方账户里发起一场总统竞选 看上去就是这样 |
| 77 | Also I find the Rubio memes and the fact that he's doing everything funny when it's juxtaposed | 还有,我发现鲁比奥的迷因 和他在做所有有趣的事情 当它同时出现 |
| 78 | with the reality that Jared Kushner and Witkoff are the ones who are like going to Ukraine, | 现实中贾里德·库什纳和维特克夫 就像是去乌克兰一样 |
| 79 | going to Iran, negotiating every war in the world. | 去伊朗,谈判世界上的每一场战争。 |
| 80 | And he's actually, as Secretary of State, seems a little sidelined from being like the | 实际上,作为国务卿, 他似乎有点被从像 |
| 81 | main negotiators of our international crises. | 我们国际危机的主要谈判者。 |
| 82 | Somehow though, to his benefit, he still benefits from this idea that he's doing every job in | 不过,为了他的利益,他仍然从这个想法中获益,即他正在做每一项工作。 |
| 83 | the administration. | 行政部门。 |
| 84 | Take it a step further. | 更进一步。 |
| 85 | It's not, not only, okay, so he's the Secretary of State, but there are these other folks | 不仅如此 他是国务卿 还有其他人 |
| 86 | in the Middle East doing a lot of, he's also not Vice President of the United States. | 在中东做了很多 他也不是美国副总统 |
| 87 | And we're here talking about his prospects as the future of the Republican Party. | 我们在这里谈论他作为共和党未来的前景. |
| 88 | Where is JD Vance right now as we're having this? | 范斯博士现在在哪里? |
| 89 | And it's a reminder. | 且作是念已. |
| 90 | He was in Iowa. | 他在爱荷华州。 |
| 91 | He's in Iowa. | 他在爱荷华州。 |
| 92 | But still, but it's a reminder of sort of what a crappy job Vice President is. | 但它提醒人们 副总统的工作多么糟糕 |
| 93 | It is. | 没错 |
| 94 | I was looking, look at the optics. | 我在看 看光学 |
| 95 | For the first 100 years of our Republic, the keys to the White House went through being | 在我们共和国的最初100年里, 白宫的钥匙经历了 |
| 96 | Secretary of State. | 国务大臣. |
| 97 | And then we've seen over the last 100 years, the keys to the White House are being Vice | 然后我们在过去100年里看到 白宫的钥匙是副手 |
| 98 | President, at least to the nomination. | 总统,至少提名。 |
| 99 | So this is going to be super interesting for us to follow, but also to show you that Republicans | 所以,这将会是超级有趣 我们跟踪, 但也告诉你,共和党 |
| 100 | do have more than one choice, even if that choice goes through President Trump. | 即使特朗普总统做出选择 也不止一个选择 |
| 101 | But if I had to look this week, like, okay, so Rubio is in the briefing room, launching | 但是如果这周我不得不看看 Rubio在简报室 启动 |
| 102 | his presidential campaign, going to meet with the Pope, which is great, like, he's Catholic, | 他的总统竞选,要去会见教皇, 这是伟大的,像,他是天主教徒, |
| 103 | so is JD Vance, but he gets to be the one making a peace with the Pope. | JD Vance也一样 但他会和教皇和好 |
| 104 | And Vance is in Iowa campaigning for the midterms in a brutal cycle, trying to talk about affordability. | 而万斯则在艾奥瓦州以残酷的循环进行中期竞选,试图谈论可负担性. |
| 105 | That's a tough job assignment. | 这工作任务很艰难 |
| 106 | It's a tough environment out there. | 外面的环境很艰难 |
| 107 | Which platform would you rather have if you were potentially running for president? | 如果你有潜力竞选总统 你会选择哪个平台? |
| 108 | I'd rather be Rubio this week. | 我本周宁当鲁比奥. |
| 109 | The Secretary of State or Vice President thing, because it does ask the question, is he Thomas | 国务卿或副总统的事情,因为它确实问了问题,是他托马斯。 |
| 110 | Jefferson or is he Dan Quayle? | 杰斐逊还是丹·奎尔? |
| 111 | Deep cuts. | 深减. |
| 112 | So here was a little bit of the ruthless podcast on this back and forth between Rubio and Vance. | 这是鲁比奥和万斯之间 冷酷无情的播客 |
| 113 | This, of course, a group of Republican podcasters, now podcasters, but largely Hill aides actually | 这当然是一群共和党的播客, 现在的播客, 但主要是希尔的辅助 |
| 114 | come out of McConnell world that, you know, they've evolved. | 从麦康奈尔的世界里出来 他们已经进化了 |
| 115 | Now they're now they're able to talk like MAGA. | 现在他们可以像MAGA一样说话了. |
| 116 | Let's see what they had to say. | 看看他们要说什么 |
| 117 | Are we going to pretend like that's not a presidential candidate? | 我们要假装这不是总统候选人吗? |
| 118 | It sounds like a presidential candidate. | 听起来像是总统候选人 |
| 119 | Are we going to do that? | 我们要这样做吗? |
| 120 | It's kind of hard to ignore at some point that this guy's becoming a thing that is larger | 在某个时候很难忽视这个家伙 变得更大 |
| 121 | than maybe even this administration had previously conceived of. | 可能甚至连这个政府 之前设想的。 |
| 122 | JD is going to have to work for it. | JD必须为此而努力 |
| 123 | He's going to be very hard to beat. | 他会很难打败的 |
| 124 | But the reality is there's a race on. | 但现实是比赛正在进行 |
| 125 | What do you make of that? | 你觉得呢? |
| 126 | Because they're the most popular Republican podcast around and speaks to both the old | 因为他们是最受欢迎的 共和党播客 和两个老 |
| 127 | world of the Republican Party and this new world of the Republican Party. | 共和党的世界 共和党的新世界 |
| 128 | What I make out of that is that they're saying the obvious thing that we're saying here. | 我从中得出的是,他们说的是我们在这里所说的显而易见的事情。 |
| 129 | We have two people within this administration that are thirsty and thirsty for the endorsement | 这个政府里有两个人 渴得要死 |
| 130 | and embrace of President Trump so they can become the Republican nominee. | 并拥抱特朗普总统 让他们成为共和党候选人 |
| 131 | It was interesting to me there that they suggested that Rubio has kind of expanded beyond what | 有趣的是,他们暗示鲁比奥 已经扩张到... |
| 132 | anybody thought was possible, which is kind of the piece of this that I'm watching pretty | 任何人都认为是可能的, 这是这种片 我看着美丽的 |
| 133 | closely. | 靠近点 |
| 134 | Vice President Vance made his first trip to Iowa as vice president. | 副总统万斯作为副总统首次前往爱荷华州. |
| 135 | At the same time, Secretary of State Marco Rubio posted a video of an answer he gave | 同时,国务卿马可·鲁比奥张贴了一段他回答的视频。 |
| 136 | to a question when he was giving a briefing at the White House set to dramatic footage | 当他在白宫作简报时 问到一个问题 |
| 137 | and music. | 还有音乐 |
| 138 | It is meant as a celebration of America's 250th anniversary, but it reads like something | 这是庆祝美国成立二百五十周年 但它读起来像是 |
| 139 | else. | 别的 |
| 140 | Take a look. | 看看这个。 |
| 141 | My hope for America is what it's always been. | 我对美国的希望一直如此 |
| 142 | I think it's the hope I hope we all share. | 我认为这是希望,我希望我们都分享。 |
| 143 | We want it to continue to be the place where anyone from anywhere can achieve anything. | 我们希望它继续是任何地方的任何人能够取得任何成就的地方。 |
| 144 | Where you're not limited by the circumstances of your birth, by the color of your skin, | 在你不受出生环境,肤色的限制的地方 |
| 145 | by your ethnicity, but frankly, it's a place where you are able to overcome challenges | 老实说,这是你能克服挑战的地方 |
| 146 | and achieve your full potential. | 并实现你的全部潜力。 |
| 147 | I mean that would not be out of place on a New Hampshire or Iowa TV station. | 在新罕布什尔州或爱荷华州电视台里不会出事 |
| 148 | Secretary Rubio's briefing this week generated more buzz among the Republicans I know than | 鲁比奥部长本周的通报 在我认识的共和党人中引起了更多的轰动 |
| 149 | anything that's happened in the last year. | 去年发生的任何事 |
| 150 | He has the potential to keep the Republican base intact that President Trump got and bring | 他有潜力保持 共和党基础的完整 川普总统得到和带来 |
| 151 | back some of Trump's critics. | 支持一些特朗普的批评者。 |
| 152 | I will see if Secretary of the Vice President Vance has the same potential. | 我去看看副总统万斯的秘书是否有同样的潜力。 |
| 153 | I think Rubio demonstrated that this week, it's a long time, but I thought this was a | 我认为鲁比奥证明了这个星期, 这是一个很长的时间, 但我认为这是一个 |
| 154 | pretty important moment. | 相当重要的时刻 |
| 155 | What do you think? | 你觉得呢? |
| 156 | Yeah, look, Rubio, you talk to people that are hardcore MAGA voters, I think more than | 听着,鲁比奥,你跟那些 硬派的MAGA选民说话,我想比 |
| 157 | anybody else in the administration, Rubio has outkicked his coverage based on the expectations | Rubio根据预期 超越了他的报道 |
| 158 | for him, A, with that crowd and B, for the old world, norming Republicans who've always | 对于他,A,与人群和B, 为旧世界, 规范共和党人谁一直 |
| 159 | loved Rubio. | 喜欢鲁比奥。 |
| 160 | They're like, this guy is terrific. | 他们喜欢,这家伙是伟大的。 |
| 161 | So I agree with Brad on the buzz. | 所以我同意布拉德的意见 |
| 162 | My assumption is, and Rubio has said this, Vance and Rubio will not run against each | 我的假设是 鲁比奥说过 万斯和鲁比奥不会互相对抗 |
| 163 | other. | 其他费用。 |
| 164 | And so however this shakes out, and I still think it would be enormously difficult to | 所以,不管这摇动出来, 我仍然认为 这是非常困难的, |
| 165 | take the nomination away from a sitting vice president if he wants to get it. | 如果现任副总统想得到提名,就取消提名。 |
| 166 | I don't know, ambition is a funny thing. | 我不知道,野心是一件有趣的事情。 |
| 167 | And if you see there's cracks in the fissure, you go for it because then you got to wait | 如果你看到裂缝里有裂缝,你就去,因为你必须等待 |
| 168 | four years to go for it again. | 4年了,再来一次 |
| 169 | That or eight, right. | 那还是八个,对 |
| 170 | That commercial should raise alarms in the Democratic Party. | 该广告应该引起民主党的警觉。 |
| 171 | Here's the thing. | 事情是这样的 |
| 172 | There's a long way between now and exploratory committees and then the actual November | 现在和探索委员会还有很长的路要走 然后是11月 |
| 173 | vote. | 投票。 |
| 174 | But what I will say is that what Democrats will need to do is to anchor Donald | 但我要说的是 民主党需要做的是 巩固唐纳德 |
| 175 | Trump to J.D. | 特朗普给J.D. |
| 176 | Vance or Marco Rubio. | 万斯或马可·鲁比奥. |
| 177 | And if things continue in this trajectory, that anchor might be too heavy. | 如果事情在轨迹上继续下去 那锚可能太重了 |
| 178 | I think it's going to be very hard for somebody who was a face of the Trump administration | 我想对于一个 面对特朗普政府的人来说 这很难 |
| 179 | to be successful in a general election in 2028 may get the Republican nomination. | 在2028年大选中成功,可能会获得共和党提名. |
| 180 | Yeah, it's going to be very, very hard for them to be successful in a general election | 他们很难在大选中成功 |
| 181 | in 2028. | (原始内容存档于2028年). In 2028. |
| 182 | Horace, what do you think? | 贺拉斯,你觉得呢? |
| 183 | Where do you think the ledger is right now between Vance and Rubio? | 你觉得目前万斯和鲁比奥之间的账本在哪? |
| 184 | The Republican Party, like the Democrats, often let the former vice president have the | 共和党和民主党一样,经常让前副总统拥有 |
| 185 | first shot when that position becomes open for president. | 当总统职位被打开时第一枪 |
| 186 | In this particular case, the 80 million voters for Donald Trump, two thirds of whom are | 在这个具体案例中,唐纳德·特朗普的8000万选民,其中三分之二是 |
| 187 | Republicans, are going to have to be sold on who it is that best reflects their values | 共和党人, 将不得不出售 谁才是最能反映他们的价值观 |
| 188 | and their views. | 和他们的观点。 |
| 189 | And that's going to decide it. | 然则决之. |
| 190 | And that's good because competition is always. | 这是很好的,因为竞争总是。 |
| 191 | Are you suggesting that they're not going to take Vance as the default, just hook, line | 你是说他们不会把万斯当成默认的 只是钩子 线 |
| 192 | and sinker? | 和沉没? |
| 193 | I think that there's likely going to be a real competition. | 我认为这有可能是真正的竞争 |
| 194 | What do you think? | 你觉得呢? |
| 195 | I mean, Rubio has really been trying to raise his profile lately. | 鲁比奥最近真的想提升他的知名度 |
| 196 | And frankly, I mean, it seems like Vance has been doing the opposite just because the war, | 坦率地说,我的意思是, 似乎万斯一直在做相反的 只是因为战争, |
| 197 | for example, is really not one of his core issues. | 例如,实际上不是他的核心问题之一。 |
| 198 | I think Trump loves when people climb over each other to get to him. | 我觉得特朗普喜欢别人爬过对方去接近他. |
| 199 | I think that's what you're looking at right now. | 我认为这就是你现在看到的。 |
| 200 | I also think I can't imagine Rubio subsuming to Vance. | 我也认为我无法想象鲁比奥从属于万斯 |
| 201 | I just can't imagine Rubio being a VP under Vance. | 我只是无法想象鲁比奥是万斯手下的副总统 |
| 202 | I just don't get it. | 我只是不明白这一点。 |
| 203 | I just don't think it's going to happen. | 我只是不认为它会发生。 |
| 204 | I really think it's going to be Rubio and Don Jr. or something like that. | 我真的觉得会是鲁比奥和小唐之类的 |
| 205 | I think you're going to have something a little bit different. | 我想你们会有点不同 |
| 206 | I think there's a lot going on behind the scenes. | 我认为幕后发生了很多事情. |
| 207 | Like the two top candidates or a vice president? | 像两个顶级候选人还是副总统? |
| 208 | I think it might be president and VP. | 我想可能是总统和副总统 |
| 209 | I think Don Jr. is really eyeing this really hard, you know, and, you know, when I was | 我觉得小唐真的 看着这真的很难, 你知道,你知道, 当我是 |
| 210 | at the 2020 Republican convention, I actually thought I was going to be Ivanka, right, when | 在2020年共和党大会上, 我实际上认为我会是伊万卡,对,当 |
| 211 | she was actually talking about that, right. | 她其实是在说这个,对吗? |
| 212 | And I don't even know if that's still going to be Ivanka. | 我甚至不知道那是否还是伊万卡 |
| 213 | But I do believe I think that I don't think Vance will be the nominee. | 但我确实认为我不认为万斯是提名人 |
| 214 | I'm just going to put it out there right now. | 我现在就把它放出来 |
| 215 | I'm personally shocked that the most charismatic person in America, J.D. | 我个人震惊于美国最有魅力的人J. D. |
| 216 | Vance, is not on everybody's | 万斯,不是每个人的 |
| 217 | front running list to be the president of the United States. | 前排名单是美国总统 |
| 218 | I mean, the guy who famously said, if I have to lie to convince people to do what I want, | 我的意思是,那个有名的说, 如果我要骗人 说服人们做我想做的事, |
| 219 | then I'm just going to do it about the cats and dogs thing. | 然后,我要做它 关于猫和狗的事情。 |
| 220 | There's very little compelling about J.D. | J. D. 没有什么说服力 |
| 221 | Vance. | 万斯(原变种). |
| 222 | And I've always believed that is part of why Donald Trump chose him as his vice president. | 我一直相信这是唐纳德·特朗普选择他担任副总统的原因之一. |
| 223 | I think J.D. | 我觉得J. D. |
| 224 | Vance is Peter Thiel's boy. | 万斯是彼得·蒂尔的儿子. |
| 225 | And I think that Peter Thiel is pretty much owning half the government at this point. | 我认为彼得·提尔现在几乎拥有 一半的政府。 |
| 226 | And I think if Peter Thiel wants J.D. | 我想如果彼得・提尔想要J. D. |
| 227 | Vance in that position, he'll be in that position. | 万斯在那个位置,他会在那个位置。 |
| 228 | I think we have to watch out for Tucker Carlson. | 我认为我们必须小心塔克・卡尔森。 |
| 229 | I think he's the one that wants to run. | 我想他就是那个想逃跑的人 |
| 230 | Tucker Carlson. | 塔克・卡尔森 |
| 231 | Tucker, yeah. | 塔克,没错。 |
| 232 | I think he's the heir apparent. | 我觉得他是继承人 |
| 233 | So if you look at the two of the last three presidents, who would have thought that Barack | 所以,如果你看看前三位总统中的两位, 谁会想到巴拉克 |
| 234 | Obama was going to be president? | 奥巴马要当总统? |
| 235 | And who would have ever thought that Donald Trump was going to be president? | 谁会想到唐纳德·特朗普会成为总统? |
| 236 | So people are going to be ready, and I'm a big Donald Trump fan, I've worked with them, | 因此,人们会准备好, 而我是一个大唐纳德特朗普的粉丝, 我与他们合作, |
| 237 | but probably people are going to be ready for a bit of a change after eight years of | 但也许人们会准备好 在8年之后有所改变 |
| 238 | Trump. | 特朗普报. |
| 239 | Although, Abby, if you look at what's happening in these primaries around the country, whoever | Abby 如果你看看 全国各地的初选结果 |
| 240 | Donald Trump is tapping on the shoulder for these races is winning them. | 唐纳德·特朗普在拍肩部 因为这些比赛正在赢得胜利 |
| 241 | So he has a tremendous impact on who was winning. | 所以他对谁赢了有很大的影响。 |
| 242 | But, you know, as you know, sometimes he chickens out and he's like, I like them both. | 但是,你知道,你知道, 有时他胆小了,他喜欢,我喜欢他们两个。 |
| 243 | And that's part of the problem is that if you don't get the clear cut, you know, endorsement, | 这就是问题的一部分 如果你没有得到明确的削减, 你知道,背书, |
| 244 | sometimes you're just out of luck. | 有时候你只是运气不好。 |
| 245 | Yeah, but look at Indiana where he took out a bunch of incumbent Republicans. | 是的,但看看印第安纳州 他干掉了一群在职的共和党人 |
| 246 | Right. | 对 |
| 247 | That's because he hated them and wanted them out of office. | 那是因为他讨厌他们,希望他们离职. |
| 248 | But it's different when he's not sure where the winds are blowing, sometimes he just doesn't | 但是,当他不知道 风在哪里吹,有时他只是不 |
| 249 | make a decision. | 做出一个决定。 |
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