牧师参议员沃诺克如何看美国的民主与正义 | 2026.6.1
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| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:01 | There are partisan actors, there are craven politicians in our country who don't want | 国内有党派人士,有贪婪的政客 不希望 |
| 0:07 | people to show up. | 人们会出现 |
| 0:12 | I'm David Marchese, and today I'm interviewing Senator Raphael Warnock. | 我是大卫·马切斯 今天我要采访参议员拉斐尔·沃诺克 |
| 0:17 | Senator Warnock, a Democrat who represents the key swing state of Georgia, said that | 代表格鲁吉亚关键摇摆州的民主党参议员沃诺克说: |
| 0:22 | the Supreme Court's decision in April to narrow the Voting Rights Act has poured fuel | 最高法院4月关于缩小《投票权法》范围的决定给最高法院注入了火力 |
| 0:27 | on the redistricting arms race. | 重新分区军备竞赛。 |
| 0:29 | It would be irresponsible in this moment for Democrats to unilaterally disarm. | 此时此刻,民主党单方面解除武装是不负责任的。 |
| 0:34 | We cannot. | 我们不能。 |
| 0:35 | He's also a reverend and says there's a lot the right doesn't understand about Christian | 他也是牧师 说很多对克里斯蒂安不理解 |
| 0:39 | values. | 数值。 |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | There are partisan actors, there are craven politicians in our country who don't want | 国内有党派人士,有贪婪的政客 不希望 |
| 2 | people to show up. | 人们会出现 |
| 3 | I'm David Marchese, and today I'm interviewing Senator Raphael Warnock. | 我是大卫·马切斯 今天我要采访参议员拉斐尔·沃诺克 |
| 4 | Senator Warnock, a Democrat who represents the key swing state of Georgia, said that | 代表格鲁吉亚关键摇摆州的民主党参议员沃诺克说: |
| 5 | the Supreme Court's decision in April to narrow the Voting Rights Act has poured fuel | 最高法院4月关于缩小《投票权法》范围的决定给最高法院注入了火力 |
| 6 | on the redistricting arms race. | 重新分区军备竞赛。 |
| 7 | It would be irresponsible in this moment for Democrats to unilaterally disarm. | 此时此刻,民主党单方面解除武装是不负责任的。 |
| 8 | We cannot. | 我们不能。 |
| 9 | He's also a reverend and says there's a lot the right doesn't understand about Christian | 他也是牧师 说很多对克里斯蒂安不理解 |
| 10 | values. | 数值。 |
| 11 | I have to ask whether the religion is more performative than substantive. | 我不得不问,宗教是否比实质性宗教更有表现力。 |
| 12 | Warnock has a new book called The Crooked Places Made Straight, Reflections on the | Warnock有一本新书,名为《被碾碎的地方制造的直线,反射》 |
| 13 | Moral Meaning of America. | 美国的道德意义. |
| 14 | But the book at the forefront of his mind is perhaps unsurprisingly, the Bible. | 但是,在他思想的最前沿的书也许并不奇怪,圣经. |
| 15 | The acid test of one's faith is the depth of your commitment to the people who are on | 一个人的信念的酸性测试 是你的对人们的深度承诺 |
| 16 | the margins. | 边际。 |
| 17 | Here's my conversation with Senator Raphael Warnock. | 这是我和拉斐尔·沃诺克参议员的谈话 |
| 18 | Senator Warnock, thank you for taking the time to be here with us today. | 沃诺克参议员,谢谢你抽出时间今天来 |
| 19 | Great to be with you. | 很高兴和你在一起。 |
| 20 | It's an interesting time to be talking to you. | 与你交谈是件有趣的事 |
| 21 | You have called the Supreme Court's recent ruling on voting rights Jim Crow in new clothes. | 你调用最高法院最近的裁决 关于投票权吉姆・克劳 穿着新衣服。 |
| 22 | And we're in a moment where voting rights, it's a very fraught issue, more fraught in | 我们正处在一个时刻 选举权, 这是一个非常充满,更充满 |
| 23 | a way than it's been in decades, I would say. | 我敢说,这是比过去几十年的方式。 |
| 24 | And I want to know a little bit more about sort of your personal relationship with voting | 我想多了解一下 你和投票的私人关系 |
| 25 | rights, because your parents and grandparents grew up in the Jim Crow South. | 因为你的父母和祖父母 在吉姆克劳南部长大 |
| 26 | So can you tell us a bit about what voting rights means to you from a family perspective? | 所以,你能告诉我们一点 从家庭角度来说 投票权对你意味着什么? |
| 27 | Yes, you know, I talk a lot about voting rights, because, you know, for me, voting rights is | 是的,你知道,我谈论了很多 关于投票权, 因为,你知道,对我来说,投票权是 |
| 28 | not just one issue alongside all the other issues we fight, struggle and debate about | 不仅仅是一个问题 与所有其他问题 我们战斗,斗争和辩论 |
| 29 | in our democracy. | 我们的民主。 |
| 30 | It's the very house in which we live, it's the framework in which we get to fight for | 这是我们住的房子, 它是我们争取的框架 |
| 31 | the things that matter. | 重要的东西。 |
| 32 | And so I'm a child of the South. | 故为南天子. |
| 33 | My mother grew up in Waycross, Georgia, literally picking somebody else's cotton in the 1950s. | 我妈妈在乔治亚州的Waycross长大, 20世纪50年代从字面上挑别人的棉花。 |
| 34 | And because of the arc of progress in this country over the last 60 years, I often say | 由于过去60年这个国家进步的弧线 我经常说 |
| 35 | the hands that used to pick somebody else's cotton got to pick her son to be a United | 曾经选别人的棉花的手 得选她儿子当联合人 |
| 36 | States Senator. | 参议员 |
| 37 | And so this story of fighting for voting rights doesn't feel distant to me. | 所以这个为选举权而斗争的故事 对我来说并不遥远。 |
| 38 | We've only been a democracy in a real sense since 1965. | 我们只是从1965年开始真正意义上的民主. |
| 39 | And what it seems to me we are witnessing in real time is an assault on those basic | 在我看来,我们实时目睹的是 对这些基本的攻击 |
| 40 | voting rights. | 表决权。 |
| 41 | And it's been stepped up over the last few years. | 并在过去几年里得到了加强。 |
| 42 | But let me let me be really clear. | 但让我说清楚 |
| 43 | I don't separate this. | 我不分开这个。 |
| 44 | Right now, black voters are at the center of the debate that we're hearing. | 现在,黑人选民正在我们听到的辩论的中心。 |
| 45 | But I think that the Supreme Court has committed violence against our whole, the ways in which | 但我认为,最高法院对我们整个人犯下了暴力, |
| 46 | ordinary people can have a voice in our system. | 普通人可以在我们的系统中发出声音。 |
| 47 | The same Supreme Court that has gutted section two of the Voting Rights Act, gutted section | 已经废除了《投票权法》第2节的最高法院 |
| 48 | five in 2013, it's also the same Supreme Court responsible for Citizens United. | 2013年5月,它也是负责公民联合的同一最高法院. |
| 49 | And so whether we're talking about black voters or white working class voters, ordinary people, | 所以无论是黑人选民 还是白人工人阶级选民 普通人 |
| 50 | the voices of the people are being squeezed out of their democracy. | 人民的声音正在被挤出他们的民主。 |
| 51 | And as someone whose parents lived through that ugly history, I take deep offense and | 作为父母经历那段丑陋历史的人 我深深的冒犯 |
| 52 | I'm very concerned about our country. | 我非常关心我们的国家。 |
| 53 | I think there are those who would point to your being able to be elected as senator. | 我认为有些人会指出 你能够当选参议员。 |
| 54 | And this is sort of underpinning the logic of some of the Supreme Court's decisions | 这是最高法院一些判决的逻辑基础 |
| 55 | lately. | 近来. |
| 56 | But the fact that you are a senator is a kind of evidence that the Voting Rights Act as | 但事实上你是一个参议员 是一种证据 证明投票权法案 |
| 57 | conceived is no longer as necessary or as important as it was. | 设想不再像以前那样必要或重要。 |
| 58 | So what's your response to that kind of logic? | 那你对那种逻辑有什么反应? |
| 59 | Well, the folks who say that don't know how it got here. | 这么说的人不知道它是怎么来的 |
| 60 | Even in my last runoff, state officials in Georgia looked at the anatomy of my victory | 即使在我上次的决赛中 乔治亚州政府官员也看着我的胜利 |
| 61 | in the runoff, which by the way is itself a vestige of the Jim Crow self. | 在径流中, 顺便说一句,它本身就是吉姆·克劳的遗迹。 |
| 62 | They cut the runoff in half in terms of the number of weeks. | 他们用周数将径流量减半. |
| 63 | And then as we were going into the runoff that weekend, state officials in Georgia said, | 然后当我们进入 径流的周末, 格鲁吉亚州官员说, |
| 64 | Sorry, you can't vote first weekend of the runoff. | 对不起,你不能投票 初周末的径赛。 |
| 65 | And they were referencing an old law in Georgia that said, You can't vote first weekend. | 他们引用格鲁吉亚的旧法律 说你不能在第一个周末投票 |
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