【英语方法】沉浸式学习必须做的3件事 · 沉浸学习法
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| 0:00 | People seem to think of immersion as this magical portal that's going to let you skip | 人们似乎认为沉浸在这个神奇的入口 让你跳过 |
| 0:03 | all the steps of language learning while still arriving at the end result of learning the | 语言学习的所有步骤,同时仍然达到学习的最终结果 |
| 0:08 | language or becoming a fluent speaker of the language. | 语言或成为语言的流利语言。 |
| 0:10 | And that's really not the case. | 而事实并非如此。 |
| 0:13 | It's not to say that immersion doesn't work, because it does, but there's a right way | 并不是说浸泡不起作用,因为有,但有一个正确的方法 |
| 0:17 | and a wrong way to do it. | 和错误的方式做到这一点。 |
| 0:19 | And immersion alone is not going to help you learn a language. | 单凭沉浸无法帮助你学习语言。 |
| 0:22 | My name is Meredith with phoneticfluency.com. | 我叫梅瑞迪丝,有口交 |
| 0:25 | Welcome to another episode of the Fluency Habit Podcast. | 欢迎收看另一集"流利的哈比人" |
| 0:28 | In today's episode, I'll tell you why immersion alone doesn't work and what concrete steps | 在今天的剧集里,我会告诉你为什么独自沉浸是行不通的 以及什么样的具体步骤 |
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| 1 | People seem to think of immersion as this magical portal that's going to let you skip | 人们似乎认为沉浸在这个神奇的入口 让你跳过 |
| 2 | all the steps of language learning while still arriving at the end result of learning the | 语言学习的所有步骤,同时仍然达到学习的最终结果 |
| 3 | language or becoming a fluent speaker of the language. | 语言或成为语言的流利语言。 |
| 4 | And that's really not the case. | 而事实并非如此。 |
| 5 | It's not to say that immersion doesn't work, because it does, but there's a right way | 并不是说浸泡不起作用,因为有,但有一个正确的方法 |
| 6 | and a wrong way to do it. | 和错误的方式做到这一点。 |
| 7 | And immersion alone is not going to help you learn a language. | 单凭沉浸无法帮助你学习语言。 |
| 8 | My name is Meredith with phoneticfluency.com. | 我叫梅瑞迪丝,有口交 |
| 9 | Welcome to another episode of the Fluency Habit Podcast. | 欢迎收看另一集"流利的哈比人" |
| 10 | In today's episode, I'll tell you why immersion alone doesn't work and what concrete steps | 在今天的剧集里,我会告诉你为什么独自沉浸是行不通的 以及什么样的具体步骤 |
| 11 | you can take or integrate into your life if you are living immersed in the language you're | 你可以接受或融入你的生活 如果你生活 浸透你的语言 |
| 12 | trying to learn in order to actually get the language learning benefit out of it and reach | 努力学习 以真正获得语言学习的好处 并达到 |
| 13 | your language learning goals. | 您的语言学习目标 。 |
| 14 | When I think about this myth about immersion, it's kind of like a collective cultural myth | 当我想到这个关于浸泡的神话, 它有点像一个集体的文化神话 |
| 15 | that we all have. | 我们都有 |
| 16 | And I think that the reason that this myth is so enduring is because it's kind of like | 我认为这个神话如此持久的原因 在于它有点像 |
| 17 | a romantic idea. | 一个浪漫的想法。 |
| 18 | It's like, oh, you know, I'm just going to get rid of all my things and move to the Italian | 就像,哦,你知道的,我只是要去 摆脱我的一切 并搬到意大利人 |
| 19 | countryside. | 农村。 |
| 20 | And even if I don't speak a single word of Italian when I get there, I'm just going to | 即使我到那时不说一个意大利语 我也会说 |
| 21 | pick it up from interacting with the locals or going to the market and just living my | 把它从与当地人的互动中捡起来 或者去市场 仅仅生活我 |
| 22 | life. | 活着 |
| 23 | But other than being a romantic idea, I think also there's part of this idea that seems | 但除了浪漫的想法外,我想这个想法中还有一部分似乎 |
| 24 | like it should be true. | 像它应该是真实的。 |
| 25 | I mean, like somehow logically, we think about, well, if I'm there, I'm hearing the language | 我的意思是,像某种逻辑, 我们思考,嗯,如果我在那里, 我听到的语言 |
| 26 | around me all the time, I'm interacting in it, you know, people are teaching me words | 总是在我身边,我在互动,你知道, 人们在教我说话 |
| 27 | that I don't learn and that I don't know. | 我不学,我不知道。 |
| 28 | I'm learning these words and I'm kind of like having to use them to express myself and get | 我在学这些词,我有点喜欢用它们来表达自己 |
| 29 | through daily life. | 整个日常生活 |
| 30 | So like I should end up learning the language, but try to think about if you know anyone | 所以,我应该结束学习 语言,但试着思考 如果你认识任何人 |
| 31 | who's lived in another country for a long time and doesn't really speak the language, | 他住在另一个国家很长一段时间 而且不会说语言, |
| 32 | we can see so many examples of this being true. | 我们可以看到如此众多的例子,这是真实的。 |
| 33 | And I think it's kind of a spectrum because I've met people on different parts of the | 我认为它是一种光谱 因为我在不同的地方见过人 |
| 34 | spectrum. | 光谱。 |
| 35 | Like I've met people who have lived in another country for many years and they do speak the | 就像我见过的人 谁住在另一个国家 多年,他们确实说 |
| 36 | language like they understand everything they hear and they manage to get by in the language, | 语言就像他们理解 他们听到的一切 他们设法通过语言, |
| 37 | but they never really sound fluent and they never really feel fully fluent. | 但他们从来没有真正听起来流利 他们从来没有真正感到完全流利。 |
| 38 | Like they always feel like the language is a handicap and that it would be better if | 就像他们总觉得语言有缺陷 如果 |
| 39 | they could just speak their native language. | 他们只能说他们的母语。 |
| 40 | On the other hand, I have met people who have lived in countries for like a really long | 另一方面,我遇见了 住在国家里的人,他们像一个很长的 |
| 41 | time, you know, like 20 plus years and really don't speak the language at all. | 时间,你知道,像20多年 和真的不说语言 在所有。 |
| 42 | Like, I mean, maybe the basic, basic phrases, but not anything past that. | 比如,我意思是,也许基本,基本的短语, 但不是任何过去。 |
| 43 | And so this kind of disproves our myth that immersion alone is going to teach you a language. | 因此,这种否定了我们的神话: 独自沉浸将教你一种语言。 |
| 44 | And so if that's not the case, then what is? | 所以,如果不是这样, 那么是什么? |
| 45 | I'm not saying immersion doesn't work. | 我不是说浸泡不行 |
| 46 | It certainly does, but you have to do it the right way, which I will talk about in just | 当然,但你必须做正确的方式, 我会谈论的只是 |
| 47 | a bit in the video. | 在视频里有点。 |
| 48 | But first, I want to talk about the reasons why. | 但首先,我想谈谈原因。 |
| 49 | The number one reason is that if you take away only one thing from this video, it should | 头一个原因是,如果你从这段视频中只拿走一件事,它应该 |
| 50 | be this at the end of the day, learning a language is always going to require effort | 学习语言总是需要努力 |
| 51 | on your part. | 就你来说 |
| 52 | Learning a language is not something that happens by accident. | 学习一种语言不是偶然发生的。 |
| 53 | But besides that, there are some specific reasons why immersion alone isn't going to | 但除此之外, 有一些具体的理由 为何独自沉浸不会 |
| 54 | really help you learn the language. | 真的帮助你学习语言。 |
| 55 | And let's start with the first reason, which is kind of like geared towards beginners. | 让我们从第一个原因开始, 这有点像面向初学者。 |
| 56 | Like if you, you know, in this kind of idealized version that I, that I described at the beginning, | 就像你,你知道,在这种理想化的版本 我,我在开始描述, |
| 57 | you just arrive at a, at a certain country, in a certain country rather, where you don't | 你只是来到某个国家, 某个国家, 某个国家,你没有 |
| 58 | speak a word of the language. | 说一个语言。 |
| 59 | If you're a beginner, native speakers will pick up on that and they will do one of two | 如果你是初学者, 本地人会接听, 他们会做两个之一 |
| 60 | things. | 东西。 |
| 61 | They will switch languages or they will avoid talking to you. | 他们会调换语言,或者避免和你说话。 |
| 62 | So let's say that you're trying to speak in this language and like, maybe you can do | 所以,让我们假设你试图 用这种语言说话, 像,也许你可以 |
| 63 | basic stuff. | 基本的东西。 |
| 64 | Like you can say, hello, good morning. | 就像你可以说,你好,早上好。 |
| 65 | And you can do like a coffee order or order in a restaurant or something like that. | 你可以做一个咖啡 订购在餐馆或类似的东西。 |
| 66 | But at the end of the day, like the people, the native speakers, the waiters, you know, | 但到了最后,像人民, 母语,服务员,你知道, |
| 67 | whoever, they're going to pick up on the fact that while you might know some basics, | 不管是谁,他们都会发现 你可能知道一些基本知识 |
| 68 | you don't really speak this language. | 你真的不会说这种语言。 |
| 69 | And when that happens, like I said, one of two things, they'll either switch languages | 就像我说过的,两件事之一 他们要么换语言 |
| 70 | to you. | 给你的。 |
| 71 | Like, you know, if you're in a touristy area, they'll probably switch to English with you | 喜欢,你知道,如果你在一个旅游区, 他们可能会转换为英语和你在一起 |
| 72 | or, you know, whatever the case may be. | 或者,你知道,不管情况如何。 |
| 73 | Or if they speak your language, they might switch to that language with you, but they | 或者如果他们说出你的语言, 他们可能会跟你换语言,但他们 |
| 74 | might switch languages because they think they're being helpful to you because they | 可能换语言,因为他们认为 他们帮助你,因为他们 |
| 75 | can hear you struggling and they might not think of it like, oh, well, they want to practice | 听到你在挣扎 他们可能不会想,哦,好吧,他们想练习 |
| 76 | and so they'll just switch languages or they will avoid talking to you. | 所以他们只会切换语言 或者避免跟你说话 |
| 77 | I mean, obviously they'll continue talking to you if they're like your waiter and they're | 我的意思是,很明显,他们会继续和你说话 如果他们是你的服务生和他们 |
| 78 | taking your order. | 接受你的订单。 |
| 79 | But imagine it's more of like, you know, a social situation where you're trying to | 但想象一下,这更像是,你知道, 一个社会状况,你试图 |
| 80 | chat and like do small talk and make friends. | 聊天和做小说和交朋友 |
| 81 | It sounds kind of harsh, but like people will somewhat avoid talking to you. | 这听起来有点苛刻, 但像人们会 有点避免和你说话。 |
| 82 | And I don't think it comes from a mean place. | 我不认为它来自一个恶劣的地方。 |
| 83 | I think what it is, is they can sense the lack of fluency. | 我认为,这是什么, 他们能感觉到缺乏流利。 |
| 84 | And so avoiding talking to you that much is kind of their natural reaction because the | 所以,避免和你说话 很多是 他们自然的反应,因为 |
| 85 | underlying assumption is, okay, I can hear them. | 基本假设是,好吧,我可以听到他们。 |
| 86 | They don't sound very fluent. | 听起来不太流利 |
| 87 | And so they don't really speak this language. | 所以他们不会说这种语言。 |
| 88 | So if I talk to them, they're not really going to understand what I say. | 所以如果我和他们说话, 他们不会真正理解我说的话。 |
| 89 | And so naturally they kind of avoid talking to you that much. | 自然地,他们会避免和你说话。 |
| 90 | Again, it might sound mean, but try to put yourself in their shoes or like maybe think | 再说一遍,听起来可能很刻薄 但试着让自己站在他们的立场上 |
| 91 | of this. | 这个 |
| 92 | Think if this has happened to you, like have you ever talked to someone who was really | 想想,如果这发生在你身上, 就像你曾经说过的人谁是真正的 |
| 93 | a beginner in your language and maybe the things they say, you don't even really fully | 用你的语言做初学者,也许他们说的话,你甚至不完全 |
| 94 | understand them or they don't make a lot of sense. | 了解他们或者说不通 |
| 95 | It's like, well, if they, if I can't really understand what they're saying and they're | 这就像,嗯,如果他们, 如果我不能真正理解 他们说什么,他们是 |
| 96 | speaking my language, like how are they going to understand me if I talk to them? | 说出我的语言,就像他们会如何理解我 如果我与他们说话? |
| 97 | So we just all in that situation kind of have a natural inclination to avoid talking to | 所以,我们只是所有在这种情况下 有种自然的倾向 避免说话 |
| 98 | that person or as I mentioned in the beginning, switching languages so that we can actually | 那个人,或者如我在开头提到的, 切换语言,这样我们就可以实际上 |
| 99 | converse with them. | 与他们交谈。 |
| 100 | So that's the first reason that immersion isn't really going to work for you. | 所以这就是浸泡不会真正对你起作用的第一个原因。 |
| 101 | Immersion alone, especially if you are just moving to another country as a complete beginner | 孤独的沉浸,特别是如果你只是 作为完全的初学者移居到另一个国家 |
| 102 | in this language. | 在这种语言中。 |
| 103 | The other reason is that native speakers won't correct you. | 另一个原因是说本地话的人不会纠正你. |
| 104 | And this applies a little bit more to people beyond the beginner phase of language learning. | 这更适用于语言学习初学者。 |
| 105 | So if you do actually speak this language somewhat, but you're not like a totally fluent | 所以如果你真的会说这种语言 但你不像一个完全流利的人 |
| 106 | speaker, you're maybe upper beginner or like intermediate or something like that. | 扬声器,你可能是上位初学者 或者像中间人物之类的 |
| 107 | The problem that you'll run into now is that native speakers won't correct you because | 你现在遇到的问题是 讲母语的人不会纠正你 |
| 108 | like if they are talking to you, as long as they understand the main idea of what you're | 就像他们跟你说话一样 只要他们理解你是什么 |
| 109 | trying to say, they're not going to correct whatever mistakes that you made. | 他们不会纠正你犯下的任何错误 |
| 110 | And once again, this isn't coming from a bad place. | 再说一遍,这不是从一个坏地方来的 |
| 111 | It's usually one of two things. | 通常为两件事之一. |
| 112 | And the first one is they are assuming that it would be rude of them to correct your English | 第一个是他们假设 他们纠正你的英语很不礼貌 |
| 113 | or Spanish or insert language here. | 或西班牙语或在此插入语言。 |
| 114 | And in a way, they're actually kind of right in assuming that the thing about giving corrections | 从某种意义上说,他们实际上 假设 做修正的事情 |
| 115 | is it's kind of, it's like a delicate thing. | 是那种, 它就像一个微妙的东西。 |
| 116 | You know, like for example, I am a non-native speaker of Spanish and I feel pretty good | 举个例子,我是不会说西班牙语的,我感觉很好 |
| 117 | about my fluency, right? | 关于我的流利,对不对? |
| 118 | But obviously there are still situations where I'll make mistakes and not in every one of | 但显然还是有些情况 我会犯错误 而不是在每一个 |
| 119 | those situations do I want someone to correct me. | 那些情况我想有人纠正我 |
| 120 | It depends who that person is, what their relationship is to me, what the context of | 这取决于这个人是谁, 他们和我的关系,什么背景 |
| 121 | the situation is. | 情况是这样的。 |
| 122 | But then on the other hand, there will be some situations where I would like someone | 但另一方面,有些情况下我想找个人 |
| 123 | to correct me. | 来纠正我 |
| 124 | And if you're talking to a stranger in like a, like I said, customer service sort of situation | 如果你和陌生人说话 就像我说的 客户服务之类的情况 |
| 125 | or a social situation, that stranger is not really going to know if they, if they're okay | 或社会状况, 那个陌生人不会真正知道 他们,如果他们没事 |
| 126 | to correct you, you know? | 要纠正你,你知道吗? |
| 127 | So most of the time they won't because it could be rude and likely would be rude to | 所以大部分时间他们不会 因为那样可能很粗鲁 也可能很粗鲁 |
| 128 | do so. | 这样做。 |
| 129 | But the other part of this is that native speakers are not teachers and it is a specific | 但另一部分是讲母语的人不是老师, |
| 130 | ability. | 能力。 能力。 |
| 131 | Like it might seem kind of easy because we all, you know, speak our native language and | 可能看起来很简单 因为我们都说我们的母语 |
| 132 | understand what sounds good and what doesn't, but the role of a teacher is very specific. | 理解什么听起来好,什么没有, 但教师的角色是非常具体的。 |
| 133 | It's like a certain ability that you have in order to hear mistakes, point them out | 这就像你一定的能力 为了听到错误,指出它们 |
| 134 | in the right way and coach the person into the correct answer in the right way. | 以正确的方式将人引导到正确的答案中 |
| 135 | So native speakers are not all going to be good at this and I have personal experience | 所以说本地话的人不会都擅长这个 我有个人经验 |
| 136 | with this because for example, my boyfriend is a native Spanish speaker. | 我男朋友是讲西班牙语的土生土长 |
| 137 | He's from Mexico and there are many times when I kind of wish he could help me with | 他来自墨西哥 我曾多次希望他能帮我 |
| 138 | my Spanish in certain ways, especially when like, I know there's a specific word that | 我的西班牙语在某些方面, 特别是当喜欢, 我知道有一个特定的词 |
| 139 | I've heard before that fits in a situation and I kind of try to say like, oh, I'm looking | 我之前听过那种情况 我想说,哦,我看着 |
| 140 | for this word that's like this and da, da, da, da, da. | 对于这个词,就像这个和达,达,达,达。 |
| 141 | Like he, he really, because he's not a teacher, he's not a trained language teacher. | 和他一样,他真的,因为他不是老师,也不是受过训练的语言老师. |
| 142 | He doesn't always help me in the way that maybe I would like for him to do so, you know? | 他并不总是帮助我的方式 也许我会希望他这样做,你知道吗? |
| 143 | And so you watching this video, if you have people in your life who are native speakers | 所以,你看这视频, 如果你有的人在你的生活中 谁是母语 |
| 144 | of the language you're trying to learn, you can probably relate to this. | 在你试图学习的语言中, 你也许可以涉及到这一点。 |
| 145 | Just regular normal native speakers aren't teachers. | 只是普通的母语不是老师 |
| 146 | And so sometimes when you kind of wish they could help you, sometimes they might try, | 所以有时当你有点希望 他们可以帮助你, 有时他们可能尝试, |
| 147 | but they can't really help. | 但他们帮不了忙 |
| 148 | The third reason you're going to struggle is because native speakers will not correct | 你挣扎的第三个原因是 讲母语的人不会纠正 |
| 149 | your pronunciation. | 你的发音。 |
| 150 | Once you're beyond beginner and intermediate levels and you become like an advanced speaker | 一旦你超越初学者和中级水平 你就变成一个高级演说家 |
| 151 | of the language, you're going to have probably pretty high levels of vocabulary and grammar, | 在语言中,你可能会有 相当高的词汇和语法水平, |
| 152 | but not necessarily high levels of pronunciation and phonetics. | 但不一定是高发音和语音. |
| 153 | This is what happens to a lot of my students. | 我很多学生都这样 |
| 154 | They've lived in the US for a long time. | 他们在美国生活了很久 |
| 155 | Their level of English is very, very high. | 他们的英语水平非常,非常高. |
| 156 | They can understand everything they hear, even with fast speech, even with slang and | 他们能理解他们听到的一切, 即使用快速的言语, 甚至用口号和 |
| 157 | all of these kinds of things. | 所有这些事情。 |
| 158 | And they can say basically anything they want to say in English, but they haven't learned | 他们基本上可以用英语说出他们想说的话,但他们还没有学到 |
| 159 | necessarily the phonemes of English, like the specific sounds that we use in English | 一定是英语的电话 就像我们用英语发的 |
| 160 | that are not used in their native language. | 他们的母语没有使用。 |
| 161 | And this is going to hinder their comprehension or, I mean, hinder the way that other people | 这将会妨碍他们的理解 或者,我的意思是,阻碍别人的方式 |
| 162 | comprehend them. | 理解他们。 |
| 163 | So how can someone live in a country for a long time and not ever really pick up the | 所以一个人怎么能在一个国家 生活了很长时间 从来没有真正拿起 |
| 164 | accent? | 口音吗? |
| 165 | It's kind of what we saw before, right? | 这是我们以前看到的,对不对? |
| 166 | So mastering the accent isn't something that happens by accident. | 所以掌握口音不是偶然发生的 |
| 167 | It's something that you actually need to try to do and put an effort to do. | 这是你真正需要做的 并努力去做。 |
| 168 | Maybe if you're very young, it might happen to you. | 也许如果你很年轻,它可能会发生在你身上。 |
| 169 | Like for example, I have a friend who moved to the US when he was 15 and he has like a | 比如说,我有个朋友 他15岁时搬到美国 他就像一个 |
| 170 | nearly native accent in English and I think that's because at that age, a lot of those | 几乎是英语的本地口音 我认为这是因为在那个年龄 很多 |
| 171 | processes in the mind and in the muscles we use for articulation are kind of still going | 心灵和肌肉中的过程 被我们用来表达 |
| 172 | on that allowed him to really mimic what he heard and start speaking like a native speaker. | 这让他能模仿他听到的 开始像本地人一样说话 |
| 173 | But for most of us who start learning a language when we are later in life or older, it's something | 但对我们大多数人来说,当我们晚年或更年长时 开始学习一种语言, 这是一种东西 |
| 174 | that you're going to have to make an effort to do. | 你必须努力去做 |
| 175 | Like for example, Spanish is my second language and I think I have a pretty good accent in | 比如说,西班牙语是我的第二语言 我想我的口音不错 |
| 176 | Spanish but that's because I tried. | 西班牙语,但那是因为我试过。 |
| 177 | From the beginning, it was always my goal to sound like a native speaker and so from | 从一开始,我的目标总是 听起来像一个母语,所以 |
| 178 | the beginning, I was doing different exercises and drills and things like that in order to | 一开始,我做了不同的练习 和钻探之类的事情 |
| 179 | develop my ability to speak the language, right? | 培养我讲语言的能力,对吧? |
| 180 | Using the same sounds that native speakers do. | 使用同样的声音 当地人说话。 |
| 181 | I also worked with an accent coach so if I have a good accent in Spanish, it's because | 我还和口音教练一起工作 所以如果我有良好的口音西班牙语,那是因为 |
| 182 | I really tried to do so. | 我真的想这样做。 |
| 183 | And the same is true for whatever your language is that you're learning. | 无论你的语言是什么,你正在学习。 |
| 184 | And similar to our last point as well, native speakers won't correct you for basically the | 和我们的最后一点一样, 母语不会纠正你基本上 |
| 185 | same reasons we talked about before. | 我们之前讨论过的原因一样 |
| 186 | They're going to think it's going to be rude and in a lot of cases, they might kind of | 他们会觉得这很无礼 在很多情况下 他们可能有点 |
| 187 | be right about that and they're not teachers. | 说对了 他们不是老师 |
| 188 | Something that native speakers are exceptionally good at doing is hearing when something doesn't | 讲土语的人特别擅长做一些事 就是听到一些东西不听的话 |
| 189 | sound right. | 听起来不错。 |
| 190 | So if you have different pronunciation than what they're used to hearing, they're going | 所以,如果你有不同的发音 比他们习惯听,他们去 |
| 191 | to know that it sounds different and they're going to know you have an accent, but they | 知道这听起来不同 他们会知道你有口音,但他们 |
| 192 | are not good at saying why it sounds different and how to fix it. | 不擅长说为什么它听起来不同 以及如何修复它。 |
| 193 | So that's kind of why you have to work with an accent coach if that's the thing that you | 所以,这就是为什么你必须工作 与口音教练,如果这是你的事情 |
| 194 | want to work on. | 想继续工作 |
| 195 | The other thing about native speakers not correcting you is kind of the question of | 另一种关于母语的人不纠正你的问题就是 |
| 196 | like why would they? | 喜欢他们为什么? |
| 197 | As long as they understand you in the end, it's kind of more efficient for them to just | 只要他们最终能理解你 他们就更有效率 |
| 198 | keep it moving. | 继续走 |
| 199 | It wouldn't be efficient from a time perspective for them to stop everything and say, oh, well, | 从时间角度来说 阻止一切并说 |
| 200 | you said this word kind of like this and the correct pronunciation is like this and so | 你说这个词是这样的 正确的发音是这样的 |
| 201 | you need to do this. | 你需要做到这一点。 |
| 202 | Why would they do that if at the end of the day they understood what you said? | 如果最后他们明白你的话 他们为什么要这么做? |
| 203 | So that's why we can't rely on just immersion to master another language in terms of all | 所以我们不能只靠沉浸 掌握另一种语言 |
| 204 | of these factors like grammar, vocabulary, and also accent and pronunciation. | 包括语法,词汇,以及重音和发音等这些因素. |
| 205 | Essentially under these circumstances, your language abilities are never going to magically | 基本上在这种情况下,你的语言能力 永远不会神奇 |
| 206 | improve on their own. | 自己改进。 |
| 207 | So how do we overcome this? | 那么,我们如何克服这些? |
| 208 | You want to use this immersion that you have to your advantage because it is an incredibly | 你想用这种沉浸 对你有好处,因为它是一个不可思议的 |
| 209 | powerful tool, but as I said, there's a right way and a wrong way to do it. | 强大的工具,但正如我所说的,有正确的方法和错误的方法去做. |
| 210 | So there are three tips I'm going to give you here of ways that you can kind of overcome | 因此,有三个提示,我给你 在这里的方式,你可以克服 |
| 211 | these obstacles. | 这些障碍。 |
| 212 | And then after that, I'm going to tell you about specifically kind of what I did when | 之后,我会告诉你 具体地说,我做了什么 |
| 213 | I moved to Mexico that really helped me make the most of the immersion of being constantly | 我搬到了墨西哥,这真的帮助我 尽可能地沉浸在不断 |
| 214 | around Spanish, which I was learning at the time to actually become really fluent in Spanish. | 我当时正在学西班牙语 真正能流利的西班牙语 |
| 215 | But first, let's start with these three tips or tools that I think you should integrate. | 但首先,让我们从这三个小说或工具开始,我认为你应该加以整合。 |
| 216 | And the first one is working with an actual teacher, even if you're living in the place | 第一个是和真正的老师一起工作 即使你住的地方 |
| 217 | where they speak the language that you're learning. | 在那里,他们说话的语言 你正在学习。 |
| 218 | As we've already looked at, immersion alone isn't enough for a variety of reasons. | 正如我们已经研究过的那样,由于各种原因,单独沉浸是不够的. |
| 219 | And most of those reasons are related to native speakers not really being equipped to help | 这些原因大多都与 当地人没有真正能力帮助 |
| 220 | you for a variety of reasons. | 你因为各种原因。 |
| 221 | So when you work with an actual teacher in a teaching environment, corrections aren't | 因此,当你在教学环境中与真正的老师合作时,教改不是 |
| 222 | considered rude. | 认为粗鲁。 |
| 223 | You know, native speakers won't correct you because it's going to be rude, but the teacher, | 你知道,讲母语的人不会纠正你, 因为这将是粗鲁的,但老师, |
| 224 | that's what you're paying them to do. | 这就是你付钱让他们做的。 |
| 225 | So they will offer you corrections. | 他们将给你改正。 |
| 226 | And the other thing is that we've talked a lot about how native speakers aren't necessarily | 另一件事是,我们已经谈了很多 如何使用本地语 |
| 227 | trained as teachers, and so they're not equipped to really coach and guide you. | 被训练为教师, 所以他们没有真正 教练和指导你。 |
| 228 | But a teacher is, so when you do make a mistake and they do correct you, they're going to | 但是老师是,所以当你犯了错误 他们纠正了你,他们会 |
| 229 | be able to help you understand the concept and coach you to doing it the right way. | 能够帮助你理解概念 并指导你以正确的方式去做 |
| 230 | And also, a teacher is patient. | 师亦有忍. |
| 231 | So when you're living in another country and are living your life, you have to consider | 所以,当你生活在另一个国家, 生活你的生活, 你必须考虑 |
| 232 | that the native speakers you're interacting with, they're often just living their lives | 与你互动的土著演说家 他们常常只是过着自己的生活 |
| 233 | as well. | 临Τ |
| 234 | And so they're going to choose many times the most efficient way to do things. | 所以他们会选择许多倍 最有效的方法来做事情。 |
| 235 | And a lot of times the most efficient way to do things is not to offer corrections or | 很多时候,最有效的方法 做事情 不提供纠正或 |
| 236 | help you with your language abilities. | 帮助您掌握语言能力。 |
| 237 | As long as they understood you, they're just going to keep it moving because, you know, | 只要他们了解你,他们就会继续移动 因为,你知道, |
| 238 | for time's sake. | 因为时间的原因。 |
| 239 | But when you're working with a teacher, their job is to help you improve your language abilities. | 但是当你和老师一起工作的时候,他们的工作就是帮助你提高语言能力. |
| 240 | So they are going to be patient with you and take the time to explain why something was | 所以他们要耐心对待你 慢慢解释为什么 |
| 241 | wrong and how you can make it better. | 错误和如何使它更好。 |
| 242 | So for example, something that happens a lot in my classes is that students say a word | 比如说,我上课时经常发生的事情 就是学生说一句话 |
| 243 | wrong, and I don't understand the word at all. | 我完全听不懂这个词 |
| 244 | Like I literally don't know what they said. | 好像我不知道他们说了什么 |
| 245 | But then a couple words later, my brain catches up and I figure out what it was they said. | 但后来我说了几句话, 我的大脑赶上了,我知道他们说了什么。 |
| 246 | That could be from the context of the words that they said after, or I don't know, my | 这可能是从他们说的话的背景 之后,或者我不知道,我的 |
| 247 | brain just had like a four second delay and I finally was like, ah, okay, that was the | 大脑只有四秒钟的延迟 我终于... |
| 248 | word. | 词 |
| 249 | But that's not the experience that I want my students to have in the real world with | 但这不是我想要我的学生在现实世界中拥有的经验 |
| 250 | their English. | 他们的英语。 |
| 251 | Like I don't want them to be speaking English and the people listening to them have to have | 就像我不希望他们说英语 和人们听他们的有 |
| 252 | this four second buffer period to realize what they said. | 这4个第二个缓冲期 以实现他们说的话。 |
| 253 | I want it to be instant so that your message is properly transmitted the first time that | 我希望它立刻,以便你的消息 正确传递在第一次, |
| 254 | you speak. | 你说话。 |
| 255 | So even though I understood the word, I still take the time to explain it. | 因此,尽管我理解这个词,我仍然需要时间来解释它。 |
| 256 | In a real life scenario with a native speaker, they hear the word, they don't understand | 在现实生活中 讲母语的人 听到这个词 他们不懂 |
| 257 | and then their brain catches up or the context makes it clear what the word was, they're | 然后他们的大脑赶上 或背景 清楚它是什么词,他们是 |
| 258 | just going to move on because at the end of the day they understood you. | 只是要继续前进,因为最后 他们理解你。 |
| 259 | But as a teacher, I'm going to pause and say, okay, when you said that word, at first I | 但是作为一个老师,我要暂停 说,好吧,当你说这个词,一开始我 |
| 260 | didn't understand it because you said it like this and it should be like this. | 不理解,因为你这样说 应该是这样 |
| 261 | So can we try that again? | 我们能再试一次吗? |
| 262 | So that's another reason it's important to work with a teacher. | 所以这是另一个与老师合作很重要的原因. |
| 263 | The second thing that I recommend that you try to do to kind of overcome these obstacles | 我建议你努力克服这些障碍 |
| 264 | for immersion is intentional practice. | 浸润是故意的行为。 |
| 265 | When you're living in the place where they speak the language, you're going to feel like | 当你住在他们讲语言的地方 你会觉得 |
| 266 | you're doing practice all day, every day anyways, because you're going out, you're speaking, | 你整天都在练习 每天都在练习 因为你要出去 你说 |
| 267 | you're hearing the language all around you and that is true, you are practicing. | 你听到你周围的语言 这是真的,你在练习。 |
| 268 | But what I'm talking about is something else, it's intentional practice. | 但是,我说的是别的东西,这是故意的练习. |
| 269 | Something that you do alone, maybe one on one with a teacher, but more so like something | 你一个人做,也许一个和老师在一起, 但更像是某种东西 |
| 270 | that you probably do alone. | 你可能一个人做。 |
| 271 | And I'm not going to go in a ton of depth into like a bunch of examples of this. | 我不会在一吨深的深度 进入到像这一系列的例子。 |
| 272 | I'm going to give a few examples so you get the idea. | 我要举几个例子,让你明白这个想法。 |
| 273 | But the training or exercises that you do is going to depend on what facet of your language | 但你的训练或练习 取决于你语言的方方面面 |
| 274 | you're trying to improve. | 你试图改进。 |
| 275 | And the constant immersion that you're experiencing is going to help guide your focus. | 你所经历的不断的沉浸 将帮助引导你的注意力。 |
| 276 | So if you notice this thing is hard or this thing is hard, that's where you're going to | 所以,如果你注意到这个东西是难的 或这个东西是难的, 这就是你要去的地方 |
| 277 | practice, that's where you're going to focus your practice. | 练习,这就是你要去 集中你的练习。 |
| 278 | So I like to divide language abilities into three, which are vocabulary, grammar and phonetics. | 所以我喜欢将语言能力分为三个,即词汇,语法和语音. |
| 279 | So for vocabulary, for example, you guys already know I love Enki, the app, which is totally | 举例来说,关于词汇,你们已经知道我爱恩基了,这个应用是完全的 |
| 280 | free. | 免费。 |
| 281 | I have a video explaining how to set that up, but anyways, if you notice that you hear | 我有一个视频解释如何设置, 但无论如何,如果你注意到你听到 |
| 282 | words and you don't recognize them, you need to write those down or put them in your phone | 单词又不认得,要写下来或者放在手机里 |
| 283 | and then add them to your Enki set and then study them later. | 然后把它们加进你的恩基套装 然后以后再研究 |
| 284 | So one form of intentional practice would be reviewing your Enki set to review the new | 所以,一种形式的故意做法是审查你的恩基套集,以审查新的 |
| 285 | vocabulary that you've been learning in this immersive environment. | 你在这个浸润的环境中学到的词汇。 |
| 286 | So you're actually taking advantage of the environment by learning these words and then | 所以,你实际上利用环境 通过学习这些词,然后 |
| 287 | using Enki to make sure that they stay with you. | 利用恩基确保他们和你在一起 |
| 288 | If the facet you're trying to improve is grammar, you might have heard a certain grammatical | 如果你试图改进的面孔是语法, 你可能已经听到某种语法 |
| 289 | structure that was unfamiliar to you or that you don't feel like you know very well. | 结构,你并不熟悉 或者你觉得自己不太清楚。 |
| 290 | And then you go and read an article about it, look it up, like try to understand how | 然后你去读一篇关于它的文章, 查一下,像试图理解如何 |
| 291 | it works and then maybe do one of these online quizzes to test your ability and like improve | 然后做一个在线测验 测试你的能力 并喜欢提高 |
| 292 | your ability in that. | 你在这方面的能力。 |
| 293 | When it comes to phonetics, that's my area of expertise so I can think of like a million | 说到口音,那是我的专业领域 所以我能想到一百万 |
| 294 | different examples of things that you can do like specific drills and exercises to improve | 不同的例子,你可以做的 像特定练习和练习 改进 |
| 295 | your pronunciation. | 你的发音。 |
| 296 | But on a really simple level, the best thing you can do is shadowing or reading out loud. | 但是在一个非常简单的层面上, 你所能做的最好的事情是 跟踪或大声读出来。 |
| 297 | The things that I give to my students are often more specific depending on like what | 我给学生的东西往往更具体 取决于什么 |
| 298 | specific thing they're trying to work on so that I have certain exercises related to mastering | 具体的事情,他们正在试图工作 这样我有一些练习 与掌握 |
| 299 | a certain sound or exercises related to connected speech or rhythm or things like that. | 一定的声音或练习与连接的语音或节奏或者类似的东西有关. |
| 300 | Finally, the third tip I have for you is about your curiosity. | 最后,我给你的第三个提示是 你的好奇心。 |
| 301 | So even though you feel like you're probably improving just by being around the language | 所以,尽管你觉得 你可能正在改善 只是通过周围的语言 |
| 302 | all the time, you need to make sure that you maintain this insatiable sense of curiosity | 一直以来,你需要确保 你保持这种无厌的好奇心 |
| 303 | towards the language, like a constant hunger to continually grow your knowledge about the | 向着语言,就像不断的饥饿 不断增长你的知识 |
| 304 | language. | 语言。 |
| 305 | When I moved to Mexico, it really did supercharge my Spanish a lot, but there were these key | 当我搬到墨西哥时,它真的 超量加载我的西班牙语,但有这些钥匙 |
| 306 | things that I did to make sure that my Spanish continued to grow in this immersive environment | 我所做的一切 是为了确保我的西班牙人 继续在这种浸润的环境中成长 |
| 307 | and the immersive environment was actually like adding to my language knowledge and one | 和浸润的环境 实际上就像增加 我的语言知识和一个 |
| 308 | of those things was having the constant curiosity. | 那些东西一直很好奇 |
| 309 | But I'm going to talk about that more in just a second. | 但我马上就会再谈这个 |
| 310 | Let's take a moment to talk about these three things in order that I did in order to make | 让我们花点时间谈谈这三件事 为了让我做 |
| 311 | sure that when I moved to Mexico, I could actually take full, full, full advantage of | 当然,当我搬到墨西哥, 我实际上可以 完全,完全,完全的优势 |
| 312 | the immersion and use it to supercharge my Spanish. | 沉浸和用它来给我的西班牙语加压。 |
| 313 | So the first one is I already spoke Spanish when I moved. | 第一个是我搬家的时候已经说西班牙语了 |
| 314 | This is really, really key because as I said at the top of the video, a lot of people have | 这真的很,真的很关键 因为我在视频的顶部说过,很多人都有 |
| 315 | this idea that you can just move to a country with no knowledge and you're just going to | 这个想法,你可以 只是搬到一个没有知识的国家 你只是要去 |
| 316 | pick up the language. | 捡起语言. |
| 317 | This is not true for all of these reasons that we saw before. | 由于我们以前看到的所有这些原因,情况并非如此。 |
| 318 | If you really don't speak the language, people aren't going to talk to you, frankly, they're | 如果你真的不说语言, 人们不会跟你说话,坦率地说,他们是 |
| 319 | just not. | 只是没有。 |
| 320 | And so when I moved to Mexico, I already had, like if we're looking at that scale of A1, | 所以,当我搬到墨西哥,我已经有, 像如果我们看A1的尺度, |
| 321 | A2, B1, B2, I probably had like a B2 level of Spanish. | A2,B1,B2,我大概有B2级的西班牙语 |
| 322 | So I already could basically talk about essentially any topic. | 所以我基本上可以谈论任何话题。 |
| 323 | And so what this did is it allowed people to actually be able to talk to me and for | 因此,它使得人们可以 真正能够和我说话,并且为 |
| 324 | people to actually want to talk to me because I wasn't like so beginner that I wasn't a | 人们真的想跟我说话 因为我不是那么刚开始的人 |
| 325 | decent conversationalist. | 正直的对话家。 |
| 326 | I was a good conversation partner. | 我是一个很好的谈话伙伴。 |
| 327 | If I had really like a really shaky level of Spanish when I had moved, this would have | 如果我真的喜欢 真正的不稳定水平的西班牙语 当我搬家,这将是 |
| 328 | the door on so many possible opportunities for me to speak Spanish with people and get | 我有很多机会可以和别人说西班牙语 |
| 329 | that practice. | 那个练习。 |
| 330 | So by having an actually decent level of Spanish when I moved, this granted me access to so | 我搬家的时候, 有了像样的西班牙语水平, 才让我有机会 |
| 331 | many more opportunities to speak Spanish and continue learning Spanish. | 有更多的机会说西班牙语和继续学习西班牙语。 |
| 332 | So that's number one, already speaking by the time I moved here. | 这是第一,在我搬来的时候已经说过了。 |
| 333 | And the second thing is relating to this last tip that I told you about, which is having | 第二件事与我告诉你的最后一点有关 |
| 334 | an insatiable curiosity about the language. | 对语言的无厌好奇 |
| 335 | This was really one of the biggest keys to making immersion work for me and allowing | 这真的是一个最大的钥匙 使浸泡工作对我来说和允许 |
| 336 | me to become really, really fluent in Spanish because as I said, I was at a B2 level. | 我变得非常,非常流利的西班牙语 因为我说过,我是在B2级。 |
| 337 | So I honestly, I probably could have stopped there in a way. | 老实说,我也许可以停在那里 |
| 338 | And I think for many people, it's kind of like that. | 我想对很多人来说, 就是这样。 |
| 339 | Like when you move to a country and you already speak enough of the language to get by for | 就像你搬到一个国家,你已经说得够多的语言了 |
| 340 | a lot of people, this feels kind of like the finish line because it's like I could have | 很多人,这感觉有点像 终点线,因为它就像我可以 |
| 341 | stayed at B2 and like lived my life like that and probably been okay. | 住在B2 喜欢过我的生活 这样,也许没事。 |
| 342 | And I would have made lots of mistakes, but people would have still understood me for | 我本来会犯很多错误 但人们还是会理解我 |
| 343 | the most part and it would have been fine. | 大部分,而且它会一直很好。 |
| 344 | But I love languages and I always had this goal that I wanted to speak Spanish as well | 但我喜欢语言,我总有这个目标 我也想说西班牙语 |
| 345 | as I possibly, possibly could. | 我可能,也许可以。 |
| 346 | So that's what allowed me to like maintain this insatiable hunger for knowledge around | 所以,这就是让我喜欢保持 这种无厌的渴望 知识周围 |
| 347 | the language. | 语言。 |
| 348 | So while I was immersed every day in Spanish, basically every day was more of a learning | 所以当我每天用西班牙语浸泡时, 基本上每一天都是一种学习 |
| 349 | opportunity. | 机会。 |
| 350 | So I actually have this notebook here and this notebook, I carried it around with me | 所以我有一本笔记本 一本笔记本,我带着它到处走 |
| 351 | everywhere when I first moved to Mexico. | 我第一次搬到墨西哥时 到处都是 |
| 352 | And you could say that this is kind of like my curiosity notebook. | 你可以说这有点像我的好奇心笔记本。 |
| 353 | So everything I heard that I didn't understand or that I was curious about, I wrote it down | 所以,我听到的一切 我不明白或好奇,我写下来 |
| 354 | here. | 在这里。 |
| 355 | Or for example, I always try to like make the configuration of my brain into Spanish, | 比如说,我总是喜欢把大脑的配置 变成西班牙语, |
| 356 | like put the configuration of my brain in Spanish instead of in English. | 就像把我的大脑配置用西班牙语而不是用英语 |
| 357 | This is another really good way to practice because I was like having thoughts, you know, | 这是另一个很好的练习方式 因为我就像有想法,你知道, |
| 358 | the same way you always have your internal monologue, but I was having it like in Spanish | 就像你总是有你的内部独白, 但我有它像西班牙语 |
| 359 | instead of in English. | 而不是英语。 |
| 360 | So I would say, oh, that's interesting. | 所以我会说,哦,这很有趣。 |
| 361 | How would I express that in Spanish? | 我要怎么用西班牙语表达? |
| 362 | I'm not sure. | 我不太确定 说不定 |
| 363 | And then these kind of thoughts I would have, I would write them down in the notebook. | 然后这种想法,我会写在笔记本上。 |
| 364 | And one of the biggest things the notebook was for was for understanding the subjunctive. | 笔记本上最大的内容之一 是用来理解底线 |
| 365 | If you're a native speaker of Spanish, you probably don't even know what this is. | 如果你是西班牙语的母语, 你可能甚至不知道这是什么。 |
| 366 | But it's like the difference between like nosotros somos and nosotros seamos. | 但是,这就像鼻祖苏摩和鼻祖海摩的区别. |
| 367 | The second one is like the subjunctive, which introduced this level of like unreal or like | 第二个像副连接, 它引入了这个级别 像不真实或类似 |
| 368 | hypothetical situations. | 假设的情况。 |
| 369 | So it's very difficult for non-native speakers of Spanish to grasp. | 因此,非母语西班牙语者很难把握. |
| 370 | And in this notebook, I would write down all kinds of things and then I would go and ask | 在这本笔记本里 我会写下所有的东西 然后我会去问 |
| 371 | friends and roomies. | 朋友和室友们 |
| 372 | And it is, you know, the teacher has a very specific role in this and it is good to have | 这是,你知道, 老师有一个非常具体的角色 在这个,这是很好的 |
| 373 | a teacher. | 一个老师。 |
| 374 | I also had a teacher at the same time, but I really enjoyed these kind of conversations | 我也同时有个老师 但我很喜欢这种谈话 |
| 375 | where I would ask native speakers who were not teachers because, you know, I am a teacher. | 在那里,我要问那些不是老师的母语,因为我是老师。 |
| 376 | So I kind of knew how to ask the question in the right way to get answers from them. | 所以我知道如何用正确的方式问问题,从他们那里得到答案。 |
| 377 | And it was interesting kind of watching how I was like obligating native speakers to think | 有趣的是,我看着自己像 义务让本地人思考 |
| 378 | about their language in a way they never had before and to say, OK, why does it sound this | 关于他们的语言 他们从来没有过的方式, 并说,OK,为什么听起来这样 |
| 379 | way? | 怎么样? |
| 380 | You know, why does it sound good this way? | 你知道,为什么听起来这样很好? |
| 381 | And why doesn't it sound good this way? | 为什么听起来不好吗? |
| 382 | Like, hmm, if both of them are correct, then like, what's the small change in meaning when | 就像,嗯,如果两者是正确的, 那么像, |
| 383 | I change this one thing? | 我改变一件事? |
| 384 | And hearing these kind of candid answers from native speakers allowed me to get a sense | 并听到这种 坦率的回答 从母语 使我得到感知 |
| 385 | for like how the language feels rather than the rules of the language. | 就像语言的感觉 而不是语言的规则 |
| 386 | For example, with the subjunctive, we all know if you are a non-native Spanish speaker | 例如,用副词,我们都知道你是不是非母语的西班牙人 |
| 387 | that the subjunctive has certain triggers. | 副作用有一定触发作用 |
| 388 | Like so when you say this and this, you know that the verb coming after should be triggered | 比如当你说这个和这个,你知道 后面的动词应该被触发 |
| 389 | into the subjunctive. | 进入子连接符。 |
| 390 | But when I would ask native speakers about these kind of things, rather than just learning | 但当我问本地人 有关这些事情, 不只是学习 |
| 391 | the rules, I was learning like how the subjunctive feels. | 规则,我在学习如何 亚结语的感觉。 |
| 392 | And that's for me, like the key to how I cracked the subjunctive and now I feel like I can | 那是给我的 就像我如何解开副关节的关键 现在我觉得我可以 |
| 393 | use it perfectly. | 完美地使用它。 |
| 394 | And I find it very fun and interesting to use. | 我发现它非常有趣和有趣的使用。 |
| 395 | So I wrote down some examples. | 所以我写了一些例子。 |
| 396 | Well, I mean, I went through the book and picked out a couple of examples. | 嗯,我的意思是,我翻阅了这本书 并挑选出几个例子。 |
| 397 | Honestly, everything in this book was really interesting from a linguistics perspective. | 老实说,从语言学的角度来看,这本书里的所有东西都很有趣。 |
| 398 | So it was hard for me to choose some. | 所以我很难选择一些。 |
| 399 | But there was a couple that I marked. | 但有对夫妇 我标记。 |
| 400 | One in particular I marked because I was thinking about it even before I opened the book, but | 特别的,我标记是因为我在打开书前就已经想过了,但是... |
| 401 | opening the book was crazy seeing all these things that I thought, you know, all these | 这本书的开篇是疯狂的 看到所有这些东西 我想,你知道,所有这些 |
| 402 | years ago. | 数年前. |
| 403 | But one in particular was I remember my roommate said something to me that was like, que bueno | 但有一个特别的是我记得我的室友 对我说的东西,就像, que bueno |
| 404 | que somos rumis. | 来点朗姆酒 |
| 405 | And I kind of understood that the que bueno que could be like a subjunctive trigger. | 我有点理解, que bueno que 可能像一个副连接触发器。 |
| 406 | And so I was like, why did she say somos instead of seamos? | 所以我想,为什么她说 somos而不是semos? |
| 407 | 所以在我的书里,我写下来像 que bueno que somos 朗米斯和 que bueno que seamos。 | |
| 408 | rumis. | 鲁米斯。 |
| 409 | And so I asked her, like, why did you say this one and not the other one? | 所以我问她,喜欢, 你为什么说这个而不是另一个? |
| 410 | And so she really thought about it. | 所以她真的考虑过了 |
| 411 | And I remember what she said. | 我记得她说的话 |
| 412 | 她就像,你知道,如果我告诉你 que bueno que somos romis, 它像的东西 | |
| 413 | already happened that kind of proved that us already being roommates is a good thing. | 这证明我们已经是室友是好事 |
| 414 | Like we were able to watch a movie together. | 就像我们能一起看电影一样 |
| 415 | So like, that's great that we're roomies because there's already been a benefit and it's like | 所以,那太好了,我们是室友 因为已经有好处了,它就像 |
| 416 | a real benefit. | 一个真正的好处。 |
| 417 | 但是,如果她说 que bueno que seamos romis, 她解释的方式是类似的东西, | |
| 418 | you know, this is like maybe we have newly become roomies or even if not, it's like we're | 你知道,这就像也许我们 刚成为室友,即使没有,它就像我们 |
| 419 | looking in my mind, the mind of the speaker, I'm like thinking forward to something that | 看着我的脑海,演讲者的脑海, 我就像在想一些事情 |
| 420 | in the future maybe will happen and the probability can vary a lot. | 未来也许会发生 概率会有很大差异 |
| 421 | Like maybe very probably or like maybe possibly could happen. | 可能有可能发生 |
| 422 | But it's like a future benefit that hasn't yet come to fruition. | 但是,这就像一个未来的好处 还没有取得成果。 |
| 423 | 这将是 que bueno que seamos Rumis。 | |
| 424 | So that's one example. | 这就是一个例子。 |
| 425 | I also wrote down things that just like came to my mind. | 我还写了些事情,我想起了 |
| 426 | So for example, I have one right here that says like how to talk about finishing things. | 比如说,我这里有一个 说到如何完成事情。 |
| 427 | Like for example, what's the difference between like terminar, acabar, acabarse and like all | 比如说,像白蚁,阿卡巴,阿卡巴 和像所有 |
| 428 | of this so that I get to understand how to talk about finishing things. | 这样我才能理解 如何谈论完成的事情。 |
| 429 | Let's see. | 让我看看。 |
| 430 | This almost certainly came from a book, which at one point I read Frankenstein in Spanish. | 这几乎肯定出自一本书, 我曾经读过弗兰肯斯坦的西班牙语。 |
| 431 | The translation was very good. | 译经甚妙. |
| 432 | Frankenstein is an amazing book in English or in Spanish. | 弗兰肯斯坦是一本英语或西班牙语的惊人书籍. |
| 433 | But anyway, I think maybe this came from this. | 但无论如何,我想也许这是从这个。 |
| 434 | 上面写着 假的 la voz más dulce que yo haya escuchado. | |
| 435 | And I was like, why is it aya? | 我当时想,为什么是Aya? |
| 436 | So I read that and I wrote it down. | 所以我读了它,我把它写下来。 |
| 437 | I was like, I need to understand why this is aya. | 我当时想,我需要理解 为什么这是Aya。 |
| 438 | And so then I wrote down the other possibilities. | 于是我记下了其他的可能性。 |
| 439 | Why not la voz más dulce que he escuchado or la que había escuchado? | 为何他不说出自己的话来? |
| 440 | And so then I asked someone and I have written in parentheses here, all three are correct. | 于是我问了一个人,我用括号写了这三句话,都是正确的。 |
| 441 | And so this is interesting to me because then as a native speaker explains it to me, I can | 因此,这对我来说很有趣 因为,作为一个本地人 向我解释,我可以 |
| 442 | see that the meaning changes. | 见其意义变化. |
| 443 | Like I could use all three of those and all three of them would be correct, but each of | 我可以用这三样东西 三个都没错 但每个 |
| 444 | them would have different meanings. | 他们有不同的意义。 |
| 445 | Another example of how I use this notebook is like when words were particularly challenging | 我用这本笔记本的另一个例子是 文字特别困难的时候 |
| 446 | for me, I would often like challenging to remember like a word that for whatever reason | 对我来说,我常常想挑战 记住一个词,因为任何原因 |
| 447 | I just couldn't remember. | 我只是不记得了。 |
| 448 | I remember I had this problem with the words cojín and cajón in Spanish. | 我记得我对西班牙语中的cojín和cajón有这种问题。 |
| 449 | It was like, I always mix these up because they're like sort of similar or whatever. | 这就像,我总是 混合这些 因为他们喜欢类似什么的。 |
| 450 | And then once I realized the connection, so for example, I, what I would do in these situations | 然后一旦我意识到了联系, 所以,举例来说,我,我会做什么 在这种情况下 |
| 451 | is go look up the etymology of the word and see where it came from originally. | 去查查这个词的词源 看看它最初的来源 |
| 452 | And this solved the issue for me. | 这解决了我的问题。 |
| 453 | So for example, cojín I learned is related to French. | 例如,我学到的cojín与法语有关。 |
| 454 | I'm going to pronounce this wrong, cousson, I guess, which stems from vulgar Latin coxinus, | 我要发错音了, 库森,我猜, 源自粗俗的拉丁克辛努斯, |
| 455 | which means seat pad, which comes from Latin coxa, which means hip, and possibly Latin | 意思是座椅垫,来自拉丁coxa,意思是臀部,也可能是拉丁语 |
| 456 | pelvinus pillow. | 皮尔文纳斯枕头。 |
| 457 | And so the English word cushion comes from the French word cousson from the Latin coxa. | 因此,英语单词缓冲来自法语单词cousson,来自拉丁coxa. |
| 458 | And so that means that the word cushion and cojín are connected through this shared root. | 也就是说,衬垫和cojín一词是通过这个共享根相连的。 |
| 459 | So when I think cushion, cousson, cojín, somehow in my mind, now they all connect together. | 所以,当我想到衬垫, 库森,cojín, 不知何故在我的脑海, 现在它们都连接在一起。 |
| 460 | And so now I'll never forget this word. | 所以现在我永远不会忘记这个词 |
| 461 | I'll never mess it up with cajón again. | 我不会再和卡琼搞混了 |
| 462 | And I realized that cajón is kind of like caja. | 我意识到卡约有点像卡约 |
| 463 | So it makes perfect sense. | 所以这很合理 |
| 464 | And so these are the kinds of things I was doing with this notebook. | 这些就是我用这本笔记本做的 |
| 465 | One last example, because I remember this one very specifically as well. | 最后一个例子,因为我记得这个非常具体的例子。 |
| 466 | I was talking to someone and there was a situation where like I knew something before something | 我和某人说话时 遇到一种情况 就像我知道一些事之前 |
| 467 | else happened. | 还发生了其他事 |
| 468 | 我告诉他,他就像, 啊, que bueno que lo supieras。 | |
| 469 | And I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. | 我当时想,等一下,等一下,等一下。 |
| 470 | 你为何说supieras, porque si lo supe? | |
| 471 | Like I did know. | 就像我知道的那样 |
| 472 | So why did you use this tense that gives this sense of like uncertainty? | 那你为什么用这种紧张 给人这种不确定的感觉? |
| 473 | Like que bueno que lo supieras. | 比如说 苏皮埃拉 |
| 474 | And he sat there silently for a second and was like, hmm. | 他静静地坐在那里一秒钟,就像,嗯。 |
| 475 | 他对我说,波克,没有supieras, 没有hubiera sido bueno, entonces que bueno。 | |
| 476 | que lo supieras. | 苏皮耶拉 |
| 477 | And that for me was like my mind blown in that moment. | 对我来说就像那一刻我的思想被吹了 |
| 478 | So I find that extremely interesting. | 所以我觉得这非常有趣。 |
| 479 | But to kind of wrap up this point, this notebook is how I mastered this adjunctive. | 但为了结束这一点, 这个笔记本是我如何掌握这个形容词的。 |
| 480 | This notebook is like what allowed me to let my curiosity run wild with Spanish and to | 这本笔记本让我对西班牙语的好奇心大发 |
| 481 | continue to have a hunger for knowledge about the language and to say like, oh, well, if | 继续渴望了解语言 并说,哦,好吧,如果 |
| 482 | I can't say this, how would I, you know? | 我不能说,我怎么会,你知道吗? |
| 483 | And so every little curiosity I had, I found a way to satisfy that curiosity by gaining | 所以,我每一点点的好奇心, 我找到一个方法满足这种好奇心 通过获得 |
| 484 | the knowledge, by asking someone, by looking it up, whatever the case may be. | 知识,通过问一个人, 通过调查它,不管案件是什么。 |
| 485 | And that's what allowed me to really like expand my Spanish really, really far and become | 所以我才喜欢扩展我的西班牙语 真正,真正远,并成为 |
| 486 | really, really fluent. | 真的很,真的很流利。 |
| 487 | So that's the second thing that I did. | 因此,这是我做的第二件事。 |
| 488 | And the third thing is specific accent training. | 第三件事是具体的口音训练。 |
| 489 | So as I mentioned, I did work with an accent coach in Spanish. | 所以,正如我所提到的,我确实与一个西班牙语的口音教练一起工作。 |
| 490 | Even before working with him, though, I always tried to train my accent because it was always | 在和他合作之前,我总是试着训练我的口音,因为它总是 |
| 491 | my goal to sound as much like a native speaker as I could. | 我的目标是尽可能像一个本地人说话 |
| 492 | So I was, you know, putting in the effort of doing shadowing. | 所以我,你知道, 努力做影子。 |
| 493 | I would like record my voice and like listen to a clip from a native speaker and kind of, | 我想录下我的声音 并想听一个土著演讲的片段 |
| 494 | you know, put on headphones and try to say the same thing at the same time as the native | 戴上耳机 试着和本地人说话 |
| 495 | speaker and then do like audio comparison, like all of these things and watching people's | 扬声器,然后做 音频比较, 像所有这些事情和观看人们的 |
| 496 | mouths to make sure that my mouth was moving in the same way. | 嘴来保证我的嘴 以同样的方式移动。 |
| 497 | And then eventually I did find an accent coach for Spanish and so I took a course with him. | 最后我找到了西班牙语的口音教练 所以我和他一起上了一个课程 |
| 498 | So all of this was like, you know, the actual effort that I put into making sure that my | 所以这一切就像,你知道, 我付出的实际努力 确保我的 |
| 499 | accent was as good as possible. | 口音尽可能好 |
| 500 | Because again, what have we learned in this video? | 再说一遍,我们在这段视频里学到了什么? |
| 501 | None of this happens just by accident. | 这一切都不是偶然发生的。 |
| 502 | You have to make an effort. | 你必须努力 |
| 503 | And making an effort is super worth it to me because like I love when I meet new people | 努力对我来说是值得的 因为我喜欢遇到新人 |
| 504 | here and they are very surprised by the way that I talk. | 他们很惊讶我说话的方式 |
| 505 | They're like, oh my God, like you use all the local slang, you know, your accent is | 他们就像,哦,我的上帝, 就像你用所有的当地口音, 你知道,你的口音是 |
| 506 | so good. | 这么好 |
| 507 | 我曾经有人对我说,哇, as como hablar con una Mexicana más。 | |
| 508 | And it's not that like my goal is to sound like someone I'm not, but it's like when I | 我的目标不是听起来像我不是一个人,而是当我 |
| 509 | feel that way to them, like when their experience of talking to me feels like talking to just | 感觉这样对他们, 就像当他们的经验 跟我说话 感觉像说话 |
| 510 | someone else that they would meet and not a foreigner, then that means this like foreign | 别人,他们会遇到,而不是一个外国人, 那么这意味着这像外国 |
| 511 | part of my identity doesn't have to be like at the forefront of every single conversation | 我的一部分身份 不必像每一次谈话一样 |
| 512 | that I have. | 我有过 |
| 513 | Hopefully that makes sense. | 希望这有道理。 |
| 514 | Obviously some people are not really too concerned with their pronunciation, but I always was | 显然有些人不太关心他们的发音,但我总是 |
| 515 | and it's kind of for that reason. | 也是因为这个原因 |
| 516 | Like now that I'm on the other side of it and have good pronunciation and people can | 就像现在我站在另一边 并有很好的发音和人们可以 |
| 517 | hear that, I get to have those experiences and I can see like why it's valuable, why | 听着,我得到了这些经历 我能理解为什么它的价值,为什么 |
| 518 | it was always valuable to me. | 对我来说总是很值钱的 |
| 519 | So in conclusion, immersion alone is not enough because we have seen that there are people | 因此,最后,光是沉浸是不够的,因为我们已经看到有人 |
| 520 | who live for 20 plus years in another country without learning language at all, or you know, | 在另一个国家生活了20多年 完全没有学习语言,或者你知道, |
| 521 | as we said, it's a spectrum. | 正如我们所说,这是一个光谱。 |
| 522 | So like without learning it at all, or maybe they have, but not very much improvement or | 所以,像没有学习它, 或也许他们有, 但不是很改善或 |
| 523 | whatever. | 随便吧 |
| 524 | And we all kind of buy into this cultural myth that immersion is like this key that's | 我们都相信这个文化神话 浸泡就像这把钥匙 |
| 525 | going to unlock fluency and going to allow you to skip steps of learning and arrive at | 将解开流利 并允许你跳过步骤 学习到达 |
| 526 | fluency. | 流畅. |
| 527 | And we know now that that's not true. | 我们现在知道这不是真的。 |
| 528 | And if you're ever wondering why this might be happening to you, if you live in the country | 如果你想知道你为什么会这样 如果你住在这个国家 |
| 529 | where they speak the language you are learning and you're like, okay, well I'm living here | 他们讲的语言 你学的,你喜欢, 好吧,我住在这里 |
| 530 | now. | 现在 |
| 531 | This is like the maximum level of language learning at this point. | 这就像目前语言学习的最高水平. |
| 532 | That's how we tend to see it, right? | 这就是我们如何看它,对不对? |
| 533 | Like the final frontier of language learning. | 如语言学最后的前沿. |
| 534 | But it's like, okay, well I'm here now. | 但就像,好吧,我现在在这里。 |
| 535 | Why am I not improving? | 为什么我没有改进? |
| 536 | It's because as I said, effort is still required. | 这是因为正如我所说,仍然需要努力。 |
| 537 | But if you can adopt these things that I have mentioned, both the three tips that I gave | 但是,如果你能采纳这些事情 我已经提到, 两个我给出的三提示 |
| 538 | and like the three specific things that I did when I moved to Mexico, one of them requires | 就像我搬去墨西哥时所做的三件事一样 其中一件要求 |
| 539 | you to learn before you move. | 在你动之前先学着点 |
| 540 | But anyway, if you do the things that I talk about in this video, then that's going to | 但无论如何,如果你做 我谈论的东西 在这视频,然后,那会 |
| 541 | allow you to use this immersion, the immersion that you're in and actually get the benefit | 允许你使用这个浸泡, 你身处的浸泡 并且实际上得到好处 |
| 542 | from it and like supercharge your language abilities and become extremely fluent as I | 从它和像超级充电 你的语言能力 变得非常流利,像我一样 |
| 543 | feel like I have done with Spanish. | 感觉就像我用西班牙语做的一样 |
| 544 | So thank you so much for watching. | 所以,非常感谢你的观看。 |
| 545 | If you want to learn more about how I can help you specifically with the phonetics and | 如果你想多了解我怎样才能帮助你 具体地讲那些话和 |
| 546 | pronunciation aspect, you can go to phoneticfluency.com to learn more about what it is that I do. | (笑声) 发音方面,你可以去听电话fluency.com 了解我的工作。 |
| 547 | Either way, thank you so much for being here and I will see you in the next video. | 不管怎么样,谢谢你的到来 我会在下一个视频中看到你。 |
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| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:00 | People seem to think of immersion as this magical portal that's going to let you skip | 人们似乎认为沉浸在这个神奇的入口 让你跳过 |
| 0:03 | all the steps of language learning while still arriving at the end result of learning the | 语言学习的所有步骤,同时仍然达到学习的最终结果 |
| 0:08 | language or becoming a fluent speaker of the language. | 语言或成为语言的流利语言。 |
| 0:10 | And that's really not the case. | 而事实并非如此。 |
| 0:13 | It's not to say that immersion doesn't work, because it does, but there's a right way | 并不是说浸泡不起作用,因为有,但有一个正确的方法 |
| 0:17 | and a wrong way to do it. | 和错误的方式做到这一点。 |
| 0:19 | And immersion alone is not going to help you learn a language. | 单凭沉浸无法帮助你学习语言。 |
| 0:22 | My name is Meredith with phoneticfluency.com. | 我叫梅瑞迪丝,有口交 |
| 0:25 | Welcome to another episode of the Fluency Habit Podcast. | 欢迎收看另一集"流利的哈比人" |
| 0:28 | In today's episode, I'll tell you why immersion alone doesn't work and what concrete steps | 在今天的剧集里,我会告诉你为什么独自沉浸是行不通的 以及什么样的具体步骤 |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
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| 1 | People seem to think of immersion as this magical portal that's going to let you skip | 人们似乎认为沉浸在这个神奇的入口 让你跳过 |
| 2 | all the steps of language learning while still arriving at the end result of learning the | 语言学习的所有步骤,同时仍然达到学习的最终结果 |
| 3 | language or becoming a fluent speaker of the language. | 语言或成为语言的流利语言。 |
| 4 | And that's really not the case. | 而事实并非如此。 |
| 5 | It's not to say that immersion doesn't work, because it does, but there's a right way | 并不是说浸泡不起作用,因为有,但有一个正确的方法 |
| 6 | and a wrong way to do it. | 和错误的方式做到这一点。 |
| 7 | And immersion alone is not going to help you learn a language. | 单凭沉浸无法帮助你学习语言。 |
| 8 | My name is Meredith with phoneticfluency.com. | 我叫梅瑞迪丝,有口交 |
| 9 | Welcome to another episode of the Fluency Habit Podcast. | 欢迎收看另一集"流利的哈比人" |
| 10 | In today's episode, I'll tell you why immersion alone doesn't work and what concrete steps | 在今天的剧集里,我会告诉你为什么独自沉浸是行不通的 以及什么样的具体步骤 |
| 11 | you can take or integrate into your life if you are living immersed in the language you're | 你可以接受或融入你的生活 如果你生活 浸透你的语言 |
| 12 | trying to learn in order to actually get the language learning benefit out of it and reach | 努力学习 以真正获得语言学习的好处 并达到 |
| 13 | your language learning goals. | 您的语言学习目标 。 |
| 14 | When I think about this myth about immersion, it's kind of like a collective cultural myth | 当我想到这个关于浸泡的神话, 它有点像一个集体的文化神话 |
| 15 | that we all have. | 我们都有 |
| 16 | And I think that the reason that this myth is so enduring is because it's kind of like | 我认为这个神话如此持久的原因 在于它有点像 |
| 17 | a romantic idea. | 一个浪漫的想法。 |
| 18 | It's like, oh, you know, I'm just going to get rid of all my things and move to the Italian | 就像,哦,你知道的,我只是要去 摆脱我的一切 并搬到意大利人 |
| 19 | countryside. | 农村。 |
| 20 | And even if I don't speak a single word of Italian when I get there, I'm just going to | 即使我到那时不说一个意大利语 我也会说 |
| 21 | pick it up from interacting with the locals or going to the market and just living my | 把它从与当地人的互动中捡起来 或者去市场 仅仅生活我 |
| 22 | life. | 活着 |
| 23 | But other than being a romantic idea, I think also there's part of this idea that seems | 但除了浪漫的想法外,我想这个想法中还有一部分似乎 |
| 24 | like it should be true. | 像它应该是真实的。 |
| 25 | I mean, like somehow logically, we think about, well, if I'm there, I'm hearing the language | 我的意思是,像某种逻辑, 我们思考,嗯,如果我在那里, 我听到的语言 |
| 26 | around me all the time, I'm interacting in it, you know, people are teaching me words | 总是在我身边,我在互动,你知道, 人们在教我说话 |
| 27 | that I don't learn and that I don't know. | 我不学,我不知道。 |
| 28 | I'm learning these words and I'm kind of like having to use them to express myself and get | 我在学这些词,我有点喜欢用它们来表达自己 |
| 29 | through daily life. | 整个日常生活 |
| 30 | So like I should end up learning the language, but try to think about if you know anyone | 所以,我应该结束学习 语言,但试着思考 如果你认识任何人 |
| 31 | who's lived in another country for a long time and doesn't really speak the language, | 他住在另一个国家很长一段时间 而且不会说语言, |
| 32 | we can see so many examples of this being true. | 我们可以看到如此众多的例子,这是真实的。 |
| 33 | And I think it's kind of a spectrum because I've met people on different parts of the | 我认为它是一种光谱 因为我在不同的地方见过人 |
| 34 | spectrum. | 光谱。 |
| 35 | Like I've met people who have lived in another country for many years and they do speak the | 就像我见过的人 谁住在另一个国家 多年,他们确实说 |
| 36 | language like they understand everything they hear and they manage to get by in the language, | 语言就像他们理解 他们听到的一切 他们设法通过语言, |
| 37 | but they never really sound fluent and they never really feel fully fluent. | 但他们从来没有真正听起来流利 他们从来没有真正感到完全流利。 |
| 38 | Like they always feel like the language is a handicap and that it would be better if | 就像他们总觉得语言有缺陷 如果 |
| 39 | they could just speak their native language. | 他们只能说他们的母语。 |
| 40 | On the other hand, I have met people who have lived in countries for like a really long | 另一方面,我遇见了 住在国家里的人,他们像一个很长的 |
| 41 | time, you know, like 20 plus years and really don't speak the language at all. | 时间,你知道,像20多年 和真的不说语言 在所有。 |
| 42 | Like, I mean, maybe the basic, basic phrases, but not anything past that. | 比如,我意思是,也许基本,基本的短语, 但不是任何过去。 |
| 43 | And so this kind of disproves our myth that immersion alone is going to teach you a language. | 因此,这种否定了我们的神话: 独自沉浸将教你一种语言。 |
| 44 | And so if that's not the case, then what is? | 所以,如果不是这样, 那么是什么? |
| 45 | I'm not saying immersion doesn't work. | 我不是说浸泡不行 |
| 46 | It certainly does, but you have to do it the right way, which I will talk about in just | 当然,但你必须做正确的方式, 我会谈论的只是 |
| 47 | a bit in the video. | 在视频里有点。 |
| 48 | But first, I want to talk about the reasons why. | 但首先,我想谈谈原因。 |
| 49 | The number one reason is that if you take away only one thing from this video, it should | 头一个原因是,如果你从这段视频中只拿走一件事,它应该 |
| 50 | be this at the end of the day, learning a language is always going to require effort | 学习语言总是需要努力 |
| 51 | on your part. | 就你来说 |
| 52 | Learning a language is not something that happens by accident. | 学习一种语言不是偶然发生的。 |
| 53 | But besides that, there are some specific reasons why immersion alone isn't going to | 但除此之外, 有一些具体的理由 为何独自沉浸不会 |
| 54 | really help you learn the language. | 真的帮助你学习语言。 |
| 55 | And let's start with the first reason, which is kind of like geared towards beginners. | 让我们从第一个原因开始, 这有点像面向初学者。 |
| 56 | Like if you, you know, in this kind of idealized version that I, that I described at the beginning, | 就像你,你知道,在这种理想化的版本 我,我在开始描述, |
| 57 | you just arrive at a, at a certain country, in a certain country rather, where you don't | 你只是来到某个国家, 某个国家, 某个国家,你没有 |
| 58 | speak a word of the language. | 说一个语言。 |
| 59 | If you're a beginner, native speakers will pick up on that and they will do one of two | 如果你是初学者, 本地人会接听, 他们会做两个之一 |
| 60 | things. | 东西。 |
| 61 | They will switch languages or they will avoid talking to you. | 他们会调换语言,或者避免和你说话。 |
| 62 | So let's say that you're trying to speak in this language and like, maybe you can do | 所以,让我们假设你试图 用这种语言说话, 像,也许你可以 |
| 63 | basic stuff. | 基本的东西。 |
| 64 | Like you can say, hello, good morning. | 就像你可以说,你好,早上好。 |
| 65 | And you can do like a coffee order or order in a restaurant or something like that. | 你可以做一个咖啡 订购在餐馆或类似的东西。 |
| 66 | But at the end of the day, like the people, the native speakers, the waiters, you know, | 但到了最后,像人民, 母语,服务员,你知道, |
| 67 | whoever, they're going to pick up on the fact that while you might know some basics, | 不管是谁,他们都会发现 你可能知道一些基本知识 |
| 68 | you don't really speak this language. | 你真的不会说这种语言。 |
| 69 | And when that happens, like I said, one of two things, they'll either switch languages | 就像我说过的,两件事之一 他们要么换语言 |
| 70 | to you. | 给你的。 |
| 71 | Like, you know, if you're in a touristy area, they'll probably switch to English with you | 喜欢,你知道,如果你在一个旅游区, 他们可能会转换为英语和你在一起 |
| 72 | or, you know, whatever the case may be. | 或者,你知道,不管情况如何。 |
| 73 | Or if they speak your language, they might switch to that language with you, but they | 或者如果他们说出你的语言, 他们可能会跟你换语言,但他们 |
| 74 | might switch languages because they think they're being helpful to you because they | 可能换语言,因为他们认为 他们帮助你,因为他们 |
| 75 | can hear you struggling and they might not think of it like, oh, well, they want to practice | 听到你在挣扎 他们可能不会想,哦,好吧,他们想练习 |
| 76 | and so they'll just switch languages or they will avoid talking to you. | 所以他们只会切换语言 或者避免跟你说话 |
| 77 | I mean, obviously they'll continue talking to you if they're like your waiter and they're | 我的意思是,很明显,他们会继续和你说话 如果他们是你的服务生和他们 |
| 78 | taking your order. | 接受你的订单。 |
| 79 | But imagine it's more of like, you know, a social situation where you're trying to | 但想象一下,这更像是,你知道, 一个社会状况,你试图 |
| 80 | chat and like do small talk and make friends. | 聊天和做小说和交朋友 |
| 81 | It sounds kind of harsh, but like people will somewhat avoid talking to you. | 这听起来有点苛刻, 但像人们会 有点避免和你说话。 |
| 82 | And I don't think it comes from a mean place. | 我不认为它来自一个恶劣的地方。 |
| 83 | I think what it is, is they can sense the lack of fluency. | 我认为,这是什么, 他们能感觉到缺乏流利。 |
| 84 | And so avoiding talking to you that much is kind of their natural reaction because the | 所以,避免和你说话 很多是 他们自然的反应,因为 |
| 85 | underlying assumption is, okay, I can hear them. | 基本假设是,好吧,我可以听到他们。 |
| 86 | They don't sound very fluent. | 听起来不太流利 |
| 87 | And so they don't really speak this language. | 所以他们不会说这种语言。 |
| 88 | So if I talk to them, they're not really going to understand what I say. | 所以如果我和他们说话, 他们不会真正理解我说的话。 |
| 89 | And so naturally they kind of avoid talking to you that much. | 自然地,他们会避免和你说话。 |
| 90 | Again, it might sound mean, but try to put yourself in their shoes or like maybe think | 再说一遍,听起来可能很刻薄 但试着让自己站在他们的立场上 |
| 91 | of this. | 这个 |
| 92 | Think if this has happened to you, like have you ever talked to someone who was really | 想想,如果这发生在你身上, 就像你曾经说过的人谁是真正的 |
| 93 | a beginner in your language and maybe the things they say, you don't even really fully | 用你的语言做初学者,也许他们说的话,你甚至不完全 |
| 94 | understand them or they don't make a lot of sense. | 了解他们或者说不通 |
| 95 | It's like, well, if they, if I can't really understand what they're saying and they're | 这就像,嗯,如果他们, 如果我不能真正理解 他们说什么,他们是 |
| 96 | speaking my language, like how are they going to understand me if I talk to them? | 说出我的语言,就像他们会如何理解我 如果我与他们说话? |
| 97 | So we just all in that situation kind of have a natural inclination to avoid talking to | 所以,我们只是所有在这种情况下 有种自然的倾向 避免说话 |
| 98 | that person or as I mentioned in the beginning, switching languages so that we can actually | 那个人,或者如我在开头提到的, 切换语言,这样我们就可以实际上 |
| 99 | converse with them. | 与他们交谈。 |
| 100 | So that's the first reason that immersion isn't really going to work for you. | 所以这就是浸泡不会真正对你起作用的第一个原因。 |
| 101 | Immersion alone, especially if you are just moving to another country as a complete beginner | 孤独的沉浸,特别是如果你只是 作为完全的初学者移居到另一个国家 |
| 102 | in this language. | 在这种语言中。 |
| 103 | The other reason is that native speakers won't correct you. | 另一个原因是说本地话的人不会纠正你. |
| 104 | And this applies a little bit more to people beyond the beginner phase of language learning. | 这更适用于语言学习初学者。 |
| 105 | So if you do actually speak this language somewhat, but you're not like a totally fluent | 所以如果你真的会说这种语言 但你不像一个完全流利的人 |
| 106 | speaker, you're maybe upper beginner or like intermediate or something like that. | 扬声器,你可能是上位初学者 或者像中间人物之类的 |
| 107 | The problem that you'll run into now is that native speakers won't correct you because | 你现在遇到的问题是 讲母语的人不会纠正你 |
| 108 | like if they are talking to you, as long as they understand the main idea of what you're | 就像他们跟你说话一样 只要他们理解你是什么 |
| 109 | trying to say, they're not going to correct whatever mistakes that you made. | 他们不会纠正你犯下的任何错误 |
| 110 | And once again, this isn't coming from a bad place. | 再说一遍,这不是从一个坏地方来的 |
| 111 | It's usually one of two things. | 通常为两件事之一. |
| 112 | And the first one is they are assuming that it would be rude of them to correct your English | 第一个是他们假设 他们纠正你的英语很不礼貌 |
| 113 | or Spanish or insert language here. | 或西班牙语或在此插入语言。 |
| 114 | And in a way, they're actually kind of right in assuming that the thing about giving corrections | 从某种意义上说,他们实际上 假设 做修正的事情 |
| 115 | is it's kind of, it's like a delicate thing. | 是那种, 它就像一个微妙的东西。 |
| 116 | You know, like for example, I am a non-native speaker of Spanish and I feel pretty good | 举个例子,我是不会说西班牙语的,我感觉很好 |
| 117 | about my fluency, right? | 关于我的流利,对不对? |
| 118 | But obviously there are still situations where I'll make mistakes and not in every one of | 但显然还是有些情况 我会犯错误 而不是在每一个 |
| 119 | those situations do I want someone to correct me. | 那些情况我想有人纠正我 |
| 120 | It depends who that person is, what their relationship is to me, what the context of | 这取决于这个人是谁, 他们和我的关系,什么背景 |
| 121 | the situation is. | 情况是这样的。 |
| 122 | But then on the other hand, there will be some situations where I would like someone | 但另一方面,有些情况下我想找个人 |
| 123 | to correct me. | 来纠正我 |
| 124 | And if you're talking to a stranger in like a, like I said, customer service sort of situation | 如果你和陌生人说话 就像我说的 客户服务之类的情况 |
| 125 | or a social situation, that stranger is not really going to know if they, if they're okay | 或社会状况, 那个陌生人不会真正知道 他们,如果他们没事 |
| 126 | to correct you, you know? | 要纠正你,你知道吗? |
| 127 | So most of the time they won't because it could be rude and likely would be rude to | 所以大部分时间他们不会 因为那样可能很粗鲁 也可能很粗鲁 |
| 128 | do so. | 这样做。 |
| 129 | But the other part of this is that native speakers are not teachers and it is a specific | 但另一部分是讲母语的人不是老师, |
| 130 | ability. | 能力。 能力。 |
| 131 | Like it might seem kind of easy because we all, you know, speak our native language and | 可能看起来很简单 因为我们都说我们的母语 |
| 132 | understand what sounds good and what doesn't, but the role of a teacher is very specific. | 理解什么听起来好,什么没有, 但教师的角色是非常具体的。 |
| 133 | It's like a certain ability that you have in order to hear mistakes, point them out | 这就像你一定的能力 为了听到错误,指出它们 |
| 134 | in the right way and coach the person into the correct answer in the right way. | 以正确的方式将人引导到正确的答案中 |
| 135 | So native speakers are not all going to be good at this and I have personal experience | 所以说本地话的人不会都擅长这个 我有个人经验 |
| 136 | with this because for example, my boyfriend is a native Spanish speaker. | 我男朋友是讲西班牙语的土生土长 |
| 137 | He's from Mexico and there are many times when I kind of wish he could help me with | 他来自墨西哥 我曾多次希望他能帮我 |
| 138 | my Spanish in certain ways, especially when like, I know there's a specific word that | 我的西班牙语在某些方面, 特别是当喜欢, 我知道有一个特定的词 |
| 139 | I've heard before that fits in a situation and I kind of try to say like, oh, I'm looking | 我之前听过那种情况 我想说,哦,我看着 |
| 140 | for this word that's like this and da, da, da, da, da. | 对于这个词,就像这个和达,达,达,达。 |
| 141 | Like he, he really, because he's not a teacher, he's not a trained language teacher. | 和他一样,他真的,因为他不是老师,也不是受过训练的语言老师. |
| 142 | He doesn't always help me in the way that maybe I would like for him to do so, you know? | 他并不总是帮助我的方式 也许我会希望他这样做,你知道吗? |
| 143 | And so you watching this video, if you have people in your life who are native speakers | 所以,你看这视频, 如果你有的人在你的生活中 谁是母语 |
| 144 | of the language you're trying to learn, you can probably relate to this. | 在你试图学习的语言中, 你也许可以涉及到这一点。 |
| 145 | Just regular normal native speakers aren't teachers. | 只是普通的母语不是老师 |
| 146 | And so sometimes when you kind of wish they could help you, sometimes they might try, | 所以有时当你有点希望 他们可以帮助你, 有时他们可能尝试, |
| 147 | but they can't really help. | 但他们帮不了忙 |
| 148 | The third reason you're going to struggle is because native speakers will not correct | 你挣扎的第三个原因是 讲母语的人不会纠正 |
| 149 | your pronunciation. | 你的发音。 |
| 150 | Once you're beyond beginner and intermediate levels and you become like an advanced speaker | 一旦你超越初学者和中级水平 你就变成一个高级演说家 |
| 151 | of the language, you're going to have probably pretty high levels of vocabulary and grammar, | 在语言中,你可能会有 相当高的词汇和语法水平, |
| 152 | but not necessarily high levels of pronunciation and phonetics. | 但不一定是高发音和语音. |
| 153 | This is what happens to a lot of my students. | 我很多学生都这样 |
| 154 | They've lived in the US for a long time. | 他们在美国生活了很久 |
| 155 | Their level of English is very, very high. | 他们的英语水平非常,非常高. |
| 156 | They can understand everything they hear, even with fast speech, even with slang and | 他们能理解他们听到的一切, 即使用快速的言语, 甚至用口号和 |
| 157 | all of these kinds of things. | 所有这些事情。 |
| 158 | And they can say basically anything they want to say in English, but they haven't learned | 他们基本上可以用英语说出他们想说的话,但他们还没有学到 |
| 159 | necessarily the phonemes of English, like the specific sounds that we use in English | 一定是英语的电话 就像我们用英语发的 |
| 160 | that are not used in their native language. | 他们的母语没有使用。 |
| 161 | And this is going to hinder their comprehension or, I mean, hinder the way that other people | 这将会妨碍他们的理解 或者,我的意思是,阻碍别人的方式 |
| 162 | comprehend them. | 理解他们。 |
| 163 | So how can someone live in a country for a long time and not ever really pick up the | 所以一个人怎么能在一个国家 生活了很长时间 从来没有真正拿起 |
| 164 | accent? | 口音吗? |
| 165 | It's kind of what we saw before, right? | 这是我们以前看到的,对不对? |
| 166 | So mastering the accent isn't something that happens by accident. | 所以掌握口音不是偶然发生的 |
| 167 | It's something that you actually need to try to do and put an effort to do. | 这是你真正需要做的 并努力去做。 |
| 168 | Maybe if you're very young, it might happen to you. | 也许如果你很年轻,它可能会发生在你身上。 |
| 169 | Like for example, I have a friend who moved to the US when he was 15 and he has like a | 比如说,我有个朋友 他15岁时搬到美国 他就像一个 |
| 170 | nearly native accent in English and I think that's because at that age, a lot of those | 几乎是英语的本地口音 我认为这是因为在那个年龄 很多 |
| 171 | processes in the mind and in the muscles we use for articulation are kind of still going | 心灵和肌肉中的过程 被我们用来表达 |
| 172 | on that allowed him to really mimic what he heard and start speaking like a native speaker. | 这让他能模仿他听到的 开始像本地人一样说话 |
| 173 | But for most of us who start learning a language when we are later in life or older, it's something | 但对我们大多数人来说,当我们晚年或更年长时 开始学习一种语言, 这是一种东西 |
| 174 | that you're going to have to make an effort to do. | 你必须努力去做 |
| 175 | Like for example, Spanish is my second language and I think I have a pretty good accent in | 比如说,西班牙语是我的第二语言 我想我的口音不错 |
| 176 | Spanish but that's because I tried. | 西班牙语,但那是因为我试过。 |
| 177 | From the beginning, it was always my goal to sound like a native speaker and so from | 从一开始,我的目标总是 听起来像一个母语,所以 |
| 178 | the beginning, I was doing different exercises and drills and things like that in order to | 一开始,我做了不同的练习 和钻探之类的事情 |
| 179 | develop my ability to speak the language, right? | 培养我讲语言的能力,对吧? |
| 180 | Using the same sounds that native speakers do. | 使用同样的声音 当地人说话。 |
| 181 | I also worked with an accent coach so if I have a good accent in Spanish, it's because | 我还和口音教练一起工作 所以如果我有良好的口音西班牙语,那是因为 |
| 182 | I really tried to do so. | 我真的想这样做。 |
| 183 | And the same is true for whatever your language is that you're learning. | 无论你的语言是什么,你正在学习。 |
| 184 | And similar to our last point as well, native speakers won't correct you for basically the | 和我们的最后一点一样, 母语不会纠正你基本上 |
| 185 | same reasons we talked about before. | 我们之前讨论过的原因一样 |
| 186 | They're going to think it's going to be rude and in a lot of cases, they might kind of | 他们会觉得这很无礼 在很多情况下 他们可能有点 |
| 187 | be right about that and they're not teachers. | 说对了 他们不是老师 |
| 188 | Something that native speakers are exceptionally good at doing is hearing when something doesn't | 讲土语的人特别擅长做一些事 就是听到一些东西不听的话 |
| 189 | sound right. | 听起来不错。 |
| 190 | So if you have different pronunciation than what they're used to hearing, they're going | 所以,如果你有不同的发音 比他们习惯听,他们去 |
| 191 | to know that it sounds different and they're going to know you have an accent, but they | 知道这听起来不同 他们会知道你有口音,但他们 |
| 192 | are not good at saying why it sounds different and how to fix it. | 不擅长说为什么它听起来不同 以及如何修复它。 |
| 193 | So that's kind of why you have to work with an accent coach if that's the thing that you | 所以,这就是为什么你必须工作 与口音教练,如果这是你的事情 |
| 194 | want to work on. | 想继续工作 |
| 195 | The other thing about native speakers not correcting you is kind of the question of | 另一种关于母语的人不纠正你的问题就是 |
| 196 | like why would they? | 喜欢他们为什么? |
| 197 | As long as they understand you in the end, it's kind of more efficient for them to just | 只要他们最终能理解你 他们就更有效率 |
| 198 | keep it moving. | 继续走 |
| 199 | It wouldn't be efficient from a time perspective for them to stop everything and say, oh, well, | 从时间角度来说 阻止一切并说 |
| 200 | you said this word kind of like this and the correct pronunciation is like this and so | 你说这个词是这样的 正确的发音是这样的 |
| 201 | you need to do this. | 你需要做到这一点。 |
| 202 | Why would they do that if at the end of the day they understood what you said? | 如果最后他们明白你的话 他们为什么要这么做? |
| 203 | So that's why we can't rely on just immersion to master another language in terms of all | 所以我们不能只靠沉浸 掌握另一种语言 |
| 204 | of these factors like grammar, vocabulary, and also accent and pronunciation. | 包括语法,词汇,以及重音和发音等这些因素. |
| 205 | Essentially under these circumstances, your language abilities are never going to magically | 基本上在这种情况下,你的语言能力 永远不会神奇 |
| 206 | improve on their own. | 自己改进。 |
| 207 | So how do we overcome this? | 那么,我们如何克服这些? |
| 208 | You want to use this immersion that you have to your advantage because it is an incredibly | 你想用这种沉浸 对你有好处,因为它是一个不可思议的 |
| 209 | powerful tool, but as I said, there's a right way and a wrong way to do it. | 强大的工具,但正如我所说的,有正确的方法和错误的方法去做. |
| 210 | So there are three tips I'm going to give you here of ways that you can kind of overcome | 因此,有三个提示,我给你 在这里的方式,你可以克服 |
| 211 | these obstacles. | 这些障碍。 |
| 212 | And then after that, I'm going to tell you about specifically kind of what I did when | 之后,我会告诉你 具体地说,我做了什么 |
| 213 | I moved to Mexico that really helped me make the most of the immersion of being constantly | 我搬到了墨西哥,这真的帮助我 尽可能地沉浸在不断 |
| 214 | around Spanish, which I was learning at the time to actually become really fluent in Spanish. | 我当时正在学西班牙语 真正能流利的西班牙语 |
| 215 | But first, let's start with these three tips or tools that I think you should integrate. | 但首先,让我们从这三个小说或工具开始,我认为你应该加以整合。 |
| 216 | And the first one is working with an actual teacher, even if you're living in the place | 第一个是和真正的老师一起工作 即使你住的地方 |
| 217 | where they speak the language that you're learning. | 在那里,他们说话的语言 你正在学习。 |
| 218 | As we've already looked at, immersion alone isn't enough for a variety of reasons. | 正如我们已经研究过的那样,由于各种原因,单独沉浸是不够的. |
| 219 | And most of those reasons are related to native speakers not really being equipped to help | 这些原因大多都与 当地人没有真正能力帮助 |
| 220 | you for a variety of reasons. | 你因为各种原因。 |
| 221 | So when you work with an actual teacher in a teaching environment, corrections aren't | 因此,当你在教学环境中与真正的老师合作时,教改不是 |
| 222 | considered rude. | 认为粗鲁。 |
| 223 | You know, native speakers won't correct you because it's going to be rude, but the teacher, | 你知道,讲母语的人不会纠正你, 因为这将是粗鲁的,但老师, |
| 224 | that's what you're paying them to do. | 这就是你付钱让他们做的。 |
| 225 | So they will offer you corrections. | 他们将给你改正。 |
| 226 | And the other thing is that we've talked a lot about how native speakers aren't necessarily | 另一件事是,我们已经谈了很多 如何使用本地语 |
| 227 | trained as teachers, and so they're not equipped to really coach and guide you. | 被训练为教师, 所以他们没有真正 教练和指导你。 |
| 228 | But a teacher is, so when you do make a mistake and they do correct you, they're going to | 但是老师是,所以当你犯了错误 他们纠正了你,他们会 |
| 229 | be able to help you understand the concept and coach you to doing it the right way. | 能够帮助你理解概念 并指导你以正确的方式去做 |
| 230 | And also, a teacher is patient. | 师亦有忍. |
| 231 | So when you're living in another country and are living your life, you have to consider | 所以,当你生活在另一个国家, 生活你的生活, 你必须考虑 |
| 232 | that the native speakers you're interacting with, they're often just living their lives | 与你互动的土著演说家 他们常常只是过着自己的生活 |
| 233 | as well. | 临Τ |
| 234 | And so they're going to choose many times the most efficient way to do things. | 所以他们会选择许多倍 最有效的方法来做事情。 |
| 235 | And a lot of times the most efficient way to do things is not to offer corrections or | 很多时候,最有效的方法 做事情 不提供纠正或 |
| 236 | help you with your language abilities. | 帮助您掌握语言能力。 |
| 237 | As long as they understood you, they're just going to keep it moving because, you know, | 只要他们了解你,他们就会继续移动 因为,你知道, |
| 238 | for time's sake. | 因为时间的原因。 |
| 239 | But when you're working with a teacher, their job is to help you improve your language abilities. | 但是当你和老师一起工作的时候,他们的工作就是帮助你提高语言能力. |
| 240 | So they are going to be patient with you and take the time to explain why something was | 所以他们要耐心对待你 慢慢解释为什么 |
| 241 | wrong and how you can make it better. | 错误和如何使它更好。 |
| 242 | So for example, something that happens a lot in my classes is that students say a word | 比如说,我上课时经常发生的事情 就是学生说一句话 |
| 243 | wrong, and I don't understand the word at all. | 我完全听不懂这个词 |
| 244 | Like I literally don't know what they said. | 好像我不知道他们说了什么 |
| 245 | But then a couple words later, my brain catches up and I figure out what it was they said. | 但后来我说了几句话, 我的大脑赶上了,我知道他们说了什么。 |
| 246 | That could be from the context of the words that they said after, or I don't know, my | 这可能是从他们说的话的背景 之后,或者我不知道,我的 |
| 247 | brain just had like a four second delay and I finally was like, ah, okay, that was the | 大脑只有四秒钟的延迟 我终于... |
| 248 | word. | 词 |
| 249 | But that's not the experience that I want my students to have in the real world with | 但这不是我想要我的学生在现实世界中拥有的经验 |
| 250 | their English. | 他们的英语。 |
| 251 | Like I don't want them to be speaking English and the people listening to them have to have | 就像我不希望他们说英语 和人们听他们的有 |
| 252 | this four second buffer period to realize what they said. | 这4个第二个缓冲期 以实现他们说的话。 |
| 253 | I want it to be instant so that your message is properly transmitted the first time that | 我希望它立刻,以便你的消息 正确传递在第一次, |
| 254 | you speak. | 你说话。 |
| 255 | So even though I understood the word, I still take the time to explain it. | 因此,尽管我理解这个词,我仍然需要时间来解释它。 |
| 256 | In a real life scenario with a native speaker, they hear the word, they don't understand | 在现实生活中 讲母语的人 听到这个词 他们不懂 |
| 257 | and then their brain catches up or the context makes it clear what the word was, they're | 然后他们的大脑赶上 或背景 清楚它是什么词,他们是 |
| 258 | just going to move on because at the end of the day they understood you. | 只是要继续前进,因为最后 他们理解你。 |
| 259 | But as a teacher, I'm going to pause and say, okay, when you said that word, at first I | 但是作为一个老师,我要暂停 说,好吧,当你说这个词,一开始我 |
| 260 | didn't understand it because you said it like this and it should be like this. | 不理解,因为你这样说 应该是这样 |
| 261 | So can we try that again? | 我们能再试一次吗? |
| 262 | So that's another reason it's important to work with a teacher. | 所以这是另一个与老师合作很重要的原因. |
| 263 | The second thing that I recommend that you try to do to kind of overcome these obstacles | 我建议你努力克服这些障碍 |
| 264 | for immersion is intentional practice. | 浸润是故意的行为。 |
| 265 | When you're living in the place where they speak the language, you're going to feel like | 当你住在他们讲语言的地方 你会觉得 |
| 266 | you're doing practice all day, every day anyways, because you're going out, you're speaking, | 你整天都在练习 每天都在练习 因为你要出去 你说 |
| 267 | you're hearing the language all around you and that is true, you are practicing. | 你听到你周围的语言 这是真的,你在练习。 |
| 268 | But what I'm talking about is something else, it's intentional practice. | 但是,我说的是别的东西,这是故意的练习. |
| 269 | Something that you do alone, maybe one on one with a teacher, but more so like something | 你一个人做,也许一个和老师在一起, 但更像是某种东西 |
| 270 | that you probably do alone. | 你可能一个人做。 |
| 271 | And I'm not going to go in a ton of depth into like a bunch of examples of this. | 我不会在一吨深的深度 进入到像这一系列的例子。 |
| 272 | I'm going to give a few examples so you get the idea. | 我要举几个例子,让你明白这个想法。 |
| 273 | But the training or exercises that you do is going to depend on what facet of your language | 但你的训练或练习 取决于你语言的方方面面 |
| 274 | you're trying to improve. | 你试图改进。 |
| 275 | And the constant immersion that you're experiencing is going to help guide your focus. | 你所经历的不断的沉浸 将帮助引导你的注意力。 |
| 276 | So if you notice this thing is hard or this thing is hard, that's where you're going to | 所以,如果你注意到这个东西是难的 或这个东西是难的, 这就是你要去的地方 |
| 277 | practice, that's where you're going to focus your practice. | 练习,这就是你要去 集中你的练习。 |
| 278 | So I like to divide language abilities into three, which are vocabulary, grammar and phonetics. | 所以我喜欢将语言能力分为三个,即词汇,语法和语音. |
| 279 | So for vocabulary, for example, you guys already know I love Enki, the app, which is totally | 举例来说,关于词汇,你们已经知道我爱恩基了,这个应用是完全的 |
| 280 | free. | 免费。 |
| 281 | I have a video explaining how to set that up, but anyways, if you notice that you hear | 我有一个视频解释如何设置, 但无论如何,如果你注意到你听到 |
| 282 | words and you don't recognize them, you need to write those down or put them in your phone | 单词又不认得,要写下来或者放在手机里 |
| 283 | and then add them to your Enki set and then study them later. | 然后把它们加进你的恩基套装 然后以后再研究 |
| 284 | So one form of intentional practice would be reviewing your Enki set to review the new | 所以,一种形式的故意做法是审查你的恩基套集,以审查新的 |
| 285 | vocabulary that you've been learning in this immersive environment. | 你在这个浸润的环境中学到的词汇。 |
| 286 | So you're actually taking advantage of the environment by learning these words and then | 所以,你实际上利用环境 通过学习这些词,然后 |
| 287 | using Enki to make sure that they stay with you. | 利用恩基确保他们和你在一起 |
| 288 | If the facet you're trying to improve is grammar, you might have heard a certain grammatical | 如果你试图改进的面孔是语法, 你可能已经听到某种语法 |
| 289 | structure that was unfamiliar to you or that you don't feel like you know very well. | 结构,你并不熟悉 或者你觉得自己不太清楚。 |
| 290 | And then you go and read an article about it, look it up, like try to understand how | 然后你去读一篇关于它的文章, 查一下,像试图理解如何 |
| 291 | it works and then maybe do one of these online quizzes to test your ability and like improve | 然后做一个在线测验 测试你的能力 并喜欢提高 |
| 292 | your ability in that. | 你在这方面的能力。 |
| 293 | When it comes to phonetics, that's my area of expertise so I can think of like a million | 说到口音,那是我的专业领域 所以我能想到一百万 |
| 294 | different examples of things that you can do like specific drills and exercises to improve | 不同的例子,你可以做的 像特定练习和练习 改进 |
| 295 | your pronunciation. | 你的发音。 |
| 296 | But on a really simple level, the best thing you can do is shadowing or reading out loud. | 但是在一个非常简单的层面上, 你所能做的最好的事情是 跟踪或大声读出来。 |
| 297 | The things that I give to my students are often more specific depending on like what | 我给学生的东西往往更具体 取决于什么 |
| 298 | specific thing they're trying to work on so that I have certain exercises related to mastering | 具体的事情,他们正在试图工作 这样我有一些练习 与掌握 |
| 299 | a certain sound or exercises related to connected speech or rhythm or things like that. | 一定的声音或练习与连接的语音或节奏或者类似的东西有关. |
| 300 | Finally, the third tip I have for you is about your curiosity. | 最后,我给你的第三个提示是 你的好奇心。 |
| 301 | So even though you feel like you're probably improving just by being around the language | 所以,尽管你觉得 你可能正在改善 只是通过周围的语言 |
| 302 | all the time, you need to make sure that you maintain this insatiable sense of curiosity | 一直以来,你需要确保 你保持这种无厌的好奇心 |
| 303 | towards the language, like a constant hunger to continually grow your knowledge about the | 向着语言,就像不断的饥饿 不断增长你的知识 |
| 304 | language. | 语言。 |
| 305 | When I moved to Mexico, it really did supercharge my Spanish a lot, but there were these key | 当我搬到墨西哥时,它真的 超量加载我的西班牙语,但有这些钥匙 |
| 306 | things that I did to make sure that my Spanish continued to grow in this immersive environment | 我所做的一切 是为了确保我的西班牙人 继续在这种浸润的环境中成长 |
| 307 | and the immersive environment was actually like adding to my language knowledge and one | 和浸润的环境 实际上就像增加 我的语言知识和一个 |
| 308 | of those things was having the constant curiosity. | 那些东西一直很好奇 |
| 309 | But I'm going to talk about that more in just a second. | 但我马上就会再谈这个 |
| 310 | Let's take a moment to talk about these three things in order that I did in order to make | 让我们花点时间谈谈这三件事 为了让我做 |
| 311 | sure that when I moved to Mexico, I could actually take full, full, full advantage of | 当然,当我搬到墨西哥, 我实际上可以 完全,完全,完全的优势 |
| 312 | the immersion and use it to supercharge my Spanish. | 沉浸和用它来给我的西班牙语加压。 |
| 313 | So the first one is I already spoke Spanish when I moved. | 第一个是我搬家的时候已经说西班牙语了 |
| 314 | This is really, really key because as I said at the top of the video, a lot of people have | 这真的很,真的很关键 因为我在视频的顶部说过,很多人都有 |
| 315 | this idea that you can just move to a country with no knowledge and you're just going to | 这个想法,你可以 只是搬到一个没有知识的国家 你只是要去 |
| 316 | pick up the language. | 捡起语言. |
| 317 | This is not true for all of these reasons that we saw before. | 由于我们以前看到的所有这些原因,情况并非如此。 |
| 318 | If you really don't speak the language, people aren't going to talk to you, frankly, they're | 如果你真的不说语言, 人们不会跟你说话,坦率地说,他们是 |
| 319 | just not. | 只是没有。 |
| 320 | And so when I moved to Mexico, I already had, like if we're looking at that scale of A1, | 所以,当我搬到墨西哥,我已经有, 像如果我们看A1的尺度, |
| 321 | A2, B1, B2, I probably had like a B2 level of Spanish. | A2,B1,B2,我大概有B2级的西班牙语 |
| 322 | So I already could basically talk about essentially any topic. | 所以我基本上可以谈论任何话题。 |
| 323 | And so what this did is it allowed people to actually be able to talk to me and for | 因此,它使得人们可以 真正能够和我说话,并且为 |
| 324 | people to actually want to talk to me because I wasn't like so beginner that I wasn't a | 人们真的想跟我说话 因为我不是那么刚开始的人 |
| 325 | decent conversationalist. | 正直的对话家。 |
| 326 | I was a good conversation partner. | 我是一个很好的谈话伙伴。 |
| 327 | If I had really like a really shaky level of Spanish when I had moved, this would have | 如果我真的喜欢 真正的不稳定水平的西班牙语 当我搬家,这将是 |
| 328 | the door on so many possible opportunities for me to speak Spanish with people and get | 我有很多机会可以和别人说西班牙语 |
| 329 | that practice. | 那个练习。 |
| 330 | So by having an actually decent level of Spanish when I moved, this granted me access to so | 我搬家的时候, 有了像样的西班牙语水平, 才让我有机会 |
| 331 | many more opportunities to speak Spanish and continue learning Spanish. | 有更多的机会说西班牙语和继续学习西班牙语。 |
| 332 | So that's number one, already speaking by the time I moved here. | 这是第一,在我搬来的时候已经说过了。 |
| 333 | And the second thing is relating to this last tip that I told you about, which is having | 第二件事与我告诉你的最后一点有关 |
| 334 | an insatiable curiosity about the language. | 对语言的无厌好奇 |
| 335 | This was really one of the biggest keys to making immersion work for me and allowing | 这真的是一个最大的钥匙 使浸泡工作对我来说和允许 |
| 336 | me to become really, really fluent in Spanish because as I said, I was at a B2 level. | 我变得非常,非常流利的西班牙语 因为我说过,我是在B2级。 |
| 337 | So I honestly, I probably could have stopped there in a way. | 老实说,我也许可以停在那里 |
| 338 | And I think for many people, it's kind of like that. | 我想对很多人来说, 就是这样。 |
| 339 | Like when you move to a country and you already speak enough of the language to get by for | 就像你搬到一个国家,你已经说得够多的语言了 |
| 340 | a lot of people, this feels kind of like the finish line because it's like I could have | 很多人,这感觉有点像 终点线,因为它就像我可以 |
| 341 | stayed at B2 and like lived my life like that and probably been okay. | 住在B2 喜欢过我的生活 这样,也许没事。 |
| 342 | And I would have made lots of mistakes, but people would have still understood me for | 我本来会犯很多错误 但人们还是会理解我 |
| 343 | the most part and it would have been fine. | 大部分,而且它会一直很好。 |
| 344 | But I love languages and I always had this goal that I wanted to speak Spanish as well | 但我喜欢语言,我总有这个目标 我也想说西班牙语 |
| 345 | as I possibly, possibly could. | 我可能,也许可以。 |
| 346 | So that's what allowed me to like maintain this insatiable hunger for knowledge around | 所以,这就是让我喜欢保持 这种无厌的渴望 知识周围 |
| 347 | the language. | 语言。 |
| 348 | So while I was immersed every day in Spanish, basically every day was more of a learning | 所以当我每天用西班牙语浸泡时, 基本上每一天都是一种学习 |
| 349 | opportunity. | 机会。 |
| 350 | So I actually have this notebook here and this notebook, I carried it around with me | 所以我有一本笔记本 一本笔记本,我带着它到处走 |
| 351 | everywhere when I first moved to Mexico. | 我第一次搬到墨西哥时 到处都是 |
| 352 | And you could say that this is kind of like my curiosity notebook. | 你可以说这有点像我的好奇心笔记本。 |
| 353 | So everything I heard that I didn't understand or that I was curious about, I wrote it down | 所以,我听到的一切 我不明白或好奇,我写下来 |
| 354 | here. | 在这里。 |
| 355 | Or for example, I always try to like make the configuration of my brain into Spanish, | 比如说,我总是喜欢把大脑的配置 变成西班牙语, |
| 356 | like put the configuration of my brain in Spanish instead of in English. | 就像把我的大脑配置用西班牙语而不是用英语 |
| 357 | This is another really good way to practice because I was like having thoughts, you know, | 这是另一个很好的练习方式 因为我就像有想法,你知道, |
| 358 | the same way you always have your internal monologue, but I was having it like in Spanish | 就像你总是有你的内部独白, 但我有它像西班牙语 |
| 359 | instead of in English. | 而不是英语。 |
| 360 | So I would say, oh, that's interesting. | 所以我会说,哦,这很有趣。 |
| 361 | How would I express that in Spanish? | 我要怎么用西班牙语表达? |
| 362 | I'm not sure. | 我不太确定 说不定 |
| 363 | And then these kind of thoughts I would have, I would write them down in the notebook. | 然后这种想法,我会写在笔记本上。 |
| 364 | And one of the biggest things the notebook was for was for understanding the subjunctive. | 笔记本上最大的内容之一 是用来理解底线 |
| 365 | If you're a native speaker of Spanish, you probably don't even know what this is. | 如果你是西班牙语的母语, 你可能甚至不知道这是什么。 |
| 366 | But it's like the difference between like nosotros somos and nosotros seamos. | 但是,这就像鼻祖苏摩和鼻祖海摩的区别. |
| 367 | The second one is like the subjunctive, which introduced this level of like unreal or like | 第二个像副连接, 它引入了这个级别 像不真实或类似 |
| 368 | hypothetical situations. | 假设的情况。 |
| 369 | So it's very difficult for non-native speakers of Spanish to grasp. | 因此,非母语西班牙语者很难把握. |
| 370 | And in this notebook, I would write down all kinds of things and then I would go and ask | 在这本笔记本里 我会写下所有的东西 然后我会去问 |
| 371 | friends and roomies. | 朋友和室友们 |
| 372 | And it is, you know, the teacher has a very specific role in this and it is good to have | 这是,你知道, 老师有一个非常具体的角色 在这个,这是很好的 |
| 373 | a teacher. | 一个老师。 |
| 374 | I also had a teacher at the same time, but I really enjoyed these kind of conversations | 我也同时有个老师 但我很喜欢这种谈话 |
| 375 | where I would ask native speakers who were not teachers because, you know, I am a teacher. | 在那里,我要问那些不是老师的母语,因为我是老师。 |
| 376 | So I kind of knew how to ask the question in the right way to get answers from them. | 所以我知道如何用正确的方式问问题,从他们那里得到答案。 |
| 377 | And it was interesting kind of watching how I was like obligating native speakers to think | 有趣的是,我看着自己像 义务让本地人思考 |
| 378 | about their language in a way they never had before and to say, OK, why does it sound this | 关于他们的语言 他们从来没有过的方式, 并说,OK,为什么听起来这样 |
| 379 | way? | 怎么样? |
| 380 | You know, why does it sound good this way? | 你知道,为什么听起来这样很好? |
| 381 | And why doesn't it sound good this way? | 为什么听起来不好吗? |
| 382 | Like, hmm, if both of them are correct, then like, what's the small change in meaning when | 就像,嗯,如果两者是正确的, 那么像, |
| 383 | I change this one thing? | 我改变一件事? |
| 384 | And hearing these kind of candid answers from native speakers allowed me to get a sense | 并听到这种 坦率的回答 从母语 使我得到感知 |
| 385 | for like how the language feels rather than the rules of the language. | 就像语言的感觉 而不是语言的规则 |
| 386 | For example, with the subjunctive, we all know if you are a non-native Spanish speaker | 例如,用副词,我们都知道你是不是非母语的西班牙人 |
| 387 | that the subjunctive has certain triggers. | 副作用有一定触发作用 |
| 388 | Like so when you say this and this, you know that the verb coming after should be triggered | 比如当你说这个和这个,你知道 后面的动词应该被触发 |
| 389 | into the subjunctive. | 进入子连接符。 |
| 390 | But when I would ask native speakers about these kind of things, rather than just learning | 但当我问本地人 有关这些事情, 不只是学习 |
| 391 | the rules, I was learning like how the subjunctive feels. | 规则,我在学习如何 亚结语的感觉。 |
| 392 | And that's for me, like the key to how I cracked the subjunctive and now I feel like I can | 那是给我的 就像我如何解开副关节的关键 现在我觉得我可以 |
| 393 | use it perfectly. | 完美地使用它。 |
| 394 | And I find it very fun and interesting to use. | 我发现它非常有趣和有趣的使用。 |
| 395 | So I wrote down some examples. | 所以我写了一些例子。 |
| 396 | Well, I mean, I went through the book and picked out a couple of examples. | 嗯,我的意思是,我翻阅了这本书 并挑选出几个例子。 |
| 397 | Honestly, everything in this book was really interesting from a linguistics perspective. | 老实说,从语言学的角度来看,这本书里的所有东西都很有趣。 |
| 398 | So it was hard for me to choose some. | 所以我很难选择一些。 |
| 399 | But there was a couple that I marked. | 但有对夫妇 我标记。 |
| 400 | One in particular I marked because I was thinking about it even before I opened the book, but | 特别的,我标记是因为我在打开书前就已经想过了,但是... |
| 401 | opening the book was crazy seeing all these things that I thought, you know, all these | 这本书的开篇是疯狂的 看到所有这些东西 我想,你知道,所有这些 |
| 402 | years ago. | 数年前. |
| 403 | But one in particular was I remember my roommate said something to me that was like, que bueno | 但有一个特别的是我记得我的室友 对我说的东西,就像, que bueno |
| 404 | que somos rumis. | 来点朗姆酒 |
| 405 | And I kind of understood that the que bueno que could be like a subjunctive trigger. | 我有点理解, que bueno que 可能像一个副连接触发器。 |
| 406 | And so I was like, why did she say somos instead of seamos? | 所以我想,为什么她说 somos而不是semos? |
| 407 | 所以在我的书里,我写下来像 que bueno que somos 朗米斯和 que bueno que seamos。 | |
| 408 | rumis. | 鲁米斯。 |
| 409 | And so I asked her, like, why did you say this one and not the other one? | 所以我问她,喜欢, 你为什么说这个而不是另一个? |
| 410 | And so she really thought about it. | 所以她真的考虑过了 |
| 411 | And I remember what she said. | 我记得她说的话 |
| 412 | 她就像,你知道,如果我告诉你 que bueno que somos romis, 它像的东西 | |
| 413 | already happened that kind of proved that us already being roommates is a good thing. | 这证明我们已经是室友是好事 |
| 414 | Like we were able to watch a movie together. | 就像我们能一起看电影一样 |
| 415 | So like, that's great that we're roomies because there's already been a benefit and it's like | 所以,那太好了,我们是室友 因为已经有好处了,它就像 |
| 416 | a real benefit. | 一个真正的好处。 |
| 417 | 但是,如果她说 que bueno que seamos romis, 她解释的方式是类似的东西, | |
| 418 | you know, this is like maybe we have newly become roomies or even if not, it's like we're | 你知道,这就像也许我们 刚成为室友,即使没有,它就像我们 |
| 419 | looking in my mind, the mind of the speaker, I'm like thinking forward to something that | 看着我的脑海,演讲者的脑海, 我就像在想一些事情 |
| 420 | in the future maybe will happen and the probability can vary a lot. | 未来也许会发生 概率会有很大差异 |
| 421 | Like maybe very probably or like maybe possibly could happen. | 可能有可能发生 |
| 422 | But it's like a future benefit that hasn't yet come to fruition. | 但是,这就像一个未来的好处 还没有取得成果。 |
| 423 | 这将是 que bueno que seamos Rumis。 | |
| 424 | So that's one example. | 这就是一个例子。 |
| 425 | I also wrote down things that just like came to my mind. | 我还写了些事情,我想起了 |
| 426 | So for example, I have one right here that says like how to talk about finishing things. | 比如说,我这里有一个 说到如何完成事情。 |
| 427 | Like for example, what's the difference between like terminar, acabar, acabarse and like all | 比如说,像白蚁,阿卡巴,阿卡巴 和像所有 |
| 428 | of this so that I get to understand how to talk about finishing things. | 这样我才能理解 如何谈论完成的事情。 |
| 429 | Let's see. | 让我看看。 |
| 430 | This almost certainly came from a book, which at one point I read Frankenstein in Spanish. | 这几乎肯定出自一本书, 我曾经读过弗兰肯斯坦的西班牙语。 |
| 431 | The translation was very good. | 译经甚妙. |
| 432 | Frankenstein is an amazing book in English or in Spanish. | 弗兰肯斯坦是一本英语或西班牙语的惊人书籍. |
| 433 | But anyway, I think maybe this came from this. | 但无论如何,我想也许这是从这个。 |
| 434 | 上面写着 假的 la voz más dulce que yo haya escuchado. | |
| 435 | And I was like, why is it aya? | 我当时想,为什么是Aya? |
| 436 | So I read that and I wrote it down. | 所以我读了它,我把它写下来。 |
| 437 | I was like, I need to understand why this is aya. | 我当时想,我需要理解 为什么这是Aya。 |
| 438 | And so then I wrote down the other possibilities. | 于是我记下了其他的可能性。 |
| 439 | Why not la voz más dulce que he escuchado or la que había escuchado? | 为何他不说出自己的话来? |
| 440 | And so then I asked someone and I have written in parentheses here, all three are correct. | 于是我问了一个人,我用括号写了这三句话,都是正确的。 |
| 441 | And so this is interesting to me because then as a native speaker explains it to me, I can | 因此,这对我来说很有趣 因为,作为一个本地人 向我解释,我可以 |
| 442 | see that the meaning changes. | 见其意义变化. |
| 443 | Like I could use all three of those and all three of them would be correct, but each of | 我可以用这三样东西 三个都没错 但每个 |
| 444 | them would have different meanings. | 他们有不同的意义。 |
| 445 | Another example of how I use this notebook is like when words were particularly challenging | 我用这本笔记本的另一个例子是 文字特别困难的时候 |
| 446 | for me, I would often like challenging to remember like a word that for whatever reason | 对我来说,我常常想挑战 记住一个词,因为任何原因 |
| 447 | I just couldn't remember. | 我只是不记得了。 |
| 448 | I remember I had this problem with the words cojín and cajón in Spanish. | 我记得我对西班牙语中的cojín和cajón有这种问题。 |
| 449 | It was like, I always mix these up because they're like sort of similar or whatever. | 这就像,我总是 混合这些 因为他们喜欢类似什么的。 |
| 450 | And then once I realized the connection, so for example, I, what I would do in these situations | 然后一旦我意识到了联系, 所以,举例来说,我,我会做什么 在这种情况下 |
| 451 | is go look up the etymology of the word and see where it came from originally. | 去查查这个词的词源 看看它最初的来源 |
| 452 | And this solved the issue for me. | 这解决了我的问题。 |
| 453 | So for example, cojín I learned is related to French. | 例如,我学到的cojín与法语有关。 |
| 454 | I'm going to pronounce this wrong, cousson, I guess, which stems from vulgar Latin coxinus, | 我要发错音了, 库森,我猜, 源自粗俗的拉丁克辛努斯, |
| 455 | which means seat pad, which comes from Latin coxa, which means hip, and possibly Latin | 意思是座椅垫,来自拉丁coxa,意思是臀部,也可能是拉丁语 |
| 456 | pelvinus pillow. | 皮尔文纳斯枕头。 |
| 457 | And so the English word cushion comes from the French word cousson from the Latin coxa. | 因此,英语单词缓冲来自法语单词cousson,来自拉丁coxa. |
| 458 | And so that means that the word cushion and cojín are connected through this shared root. | 也就是说,衬垫和cojín一词是通过这个共享根相连的。 |
| 459 | So when I think cushion, cousson, cojín, somehow in my mind, now they all connect together. | 所以,当我想到衬垫, 库森,cojín, 不知何故在我的脑海, 现在它们都连接在一起。 |
| 460 | And so now I'll never forget this word. | 所以现在我永远不会忘记这个词 |
| 461 | I'll never mess it up with cajón again. | 我不会再和卡琼搞混了 |
| 462 | And I realized that cajón is kind of like caja. | 我意识到卡约有点像卡约 |
| 463 | So it makes perfect sense. | 所以这很合理 |
| 464 | And so these are the kinds of things I was doing with this notebook. | 这些就是我用这本笔记本做的 |
| 465 | One last example, because I remember this one very specifically as well. | 最后一个例子,因为我记得这个非常具体的例子。 |
| 466 | I was talking to someone and there was a situation where like I knew something before something | 我和某人说话时 遇到一种情况 就像我知道一些事之前 |
| 467 | else happened. | 还发生了其他事 |
| 468 | 我告诉他,他就像, 啊, que bueno que lo supieras。 | |
| 469 | And I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. | 我当时想,等一下,等一下,等一下。 |
| 470 | 你为何说supieras, porque si lo supe? | |
| 471 | Like I did know. | 就像我知道的那样 |
| 472 | So why did you use this tense that gives this sense of like uncertainty? | 那你为什么用这种紧张 给人这种不确定的感觉? |
| 473 | Like que bueno que lo supieras. | 比如说 苏皮埃拉 |
| 474 | And he sat there silently for a second and was like, hmm. | 他静静地坐在那里一秒钟,就像,嗯。 |
| 475 | 他对我说,波克,没有supieras, 没有hubiera sido bueno, entonces que bueno。 | |
| 476 | que lo supieras. | 苏皮耶拉 |
| 477 | And that for me was like my mind blown in that moment. | 对我来说就像那一刻我的思想被吹了 |
| 478 | So I find that extremely interesting. | 所以我觉得这非常有趣。 |
| 479 | But to kind of wrap up this point, this notebook is how I mastered this adjunctive. | 但为了结束这一点, 这个笔记本是我如何掌握这个形容词的。 |
| 480 | This notebook is like what allowed me to let my curiosity run wild with Spanish and to | 这本笔记本让我对西班牙语的好奇心大发 |
| 481 | continue to have a hunger for knowledge about the language and to say like, oh, well, if | 继续渴望了解语言 并说,哦,好吧,如果 |
| 482 | I can't say this, how would I, you know? | 我不能说,我怎么会,你知道吗? |
| 483 | And so every little curiosity I had, I found a way to satisfy that curiosity by gaining | 所以,我每一点点的好奇心, 我找到一个方法满足这种好奇心 通过获得 |
| 484 | the knowledge, by asking someone, by looking it up, whatever the case may be. | 知识,通过问一个人, 通过调查它,不管案件是什么。 |
| 485 | And that's what allowed me to really like expand my Spanish really, really far and become | 所以我才喜欢扩展我的西班牙语 真正,真正远,并成为 |
| 486 | really, really fluent. | 真的很,真的很流利。 |
| 487 | So that's the second thing that I did. | 因此,这是我做的第二件事。 |
| 488 | And the third thing is specific accent training. | 第三件事是具体的口音训练。 |
| 489 | So as I mentioned, I did work with an accent coach in Spanish. | 所以,正如我所提到的,我确实与一个西班牙语的口音教练一起工作。 |
| 490 | Even before working with him, though, I always tried to train my accent because it was always | 在和他合作之前,我总是试着训练我的口音,因为它总是 |
| 491 | my goal to sound as much like a native speaker as I could. | 我的目标是尽可能像一个本地人说话 |
| 492 | So I was, you know, putting in the effort of doing shadowing. | 所以我,你知道, 努力做影子。 |
| 493 | I would like record my voice and like listen to a clip from a native speaker and kind of, | 我想录下我的声音 并想听一个土著演讲的片段 |
| 494 | you know, put on headphones and try to say the same thing at the same time as the native | 戴上耳机 试着和本地人说话 |
| 495 | speaker and then do like audio comparison, like all of these things and watching people's | 扬声器,然后做 音频比较, 像所有这些事情和观看人们的 |
| 496 | mouths to make sure that my mouth was moving in the same way. | 嘴来保证我的嘴 以同样的方式移动。 |
| 497 | And then eventually I did find an accent coach for Spanish and so I took a course with him. | 最后我找到了西班牙语的口音教练 所以我和他一起上了一个课程 |
| 498 | So all of this was like, you know, the actual effort that I put into making sure that my | 所以这一切就像,你知道, 我付出的实际努力 确保我的 |
| 499 | accent was as good as possible. | 口音尽可能好 |
| 500 | Because again, what have we learned in this video? | 再说一遍,我们在这段视频里学到了什么? |
| 501 | None of this happens just by accident. | 这一切都不是偶然发生的。 |
| 502 | You have to make an effort. | 你必须努力 |
| 503 | And making an effort is super worth it to me because like I love when I meet new people | 努力对我来说是值得的 因为我喜欢遇到新人 |
| 504 | here and they are very surprised by the way that I talk. | 他们很惊讶我说话的方式 |
| 505 | They're like, oh my God, like you use all the local slang, you know, your accent is | 他们就像,哦,我的上帝, 就像你用所有的当地口音, 你知道,你的口音是 |
| 506 | so good. | 这么好 |
| 507 | 我曾经有人对我说,哇, as como hablar con una Mexicana más。 | |
| 508 | And it's not that like my goal is to sound like someone I'm not, but it's like when I | 我的目标不是听起来像我不是一个人,而是当我 |
| 509 | feel that way to them, like when their experience of talking to me feels like talking to just | 感觉这样对他们, 就像当他们的经验 跟我说话 感觉像说话 |
| 510 | someone else that they would meet and not a foreigner, then that means this like foreign | 别人,他们会遇到,而不是一个外国人, 那么这意味着这像外国 |
| 511 | part of my identity doesn't have to be like at the forefront of every single conversation | 我的一部分身份 不必像每一次谈话一样 |
| 512 | that I have. | 我有过 |
| 513 | Hopefully that makes sense. | 希望这有道理。 |
| 514 | Obviously some people are not really too concerned with their pronunciation, but I always was | 显然有些人不太关心他们的发音,但我总是 |
| 515 | and it's kind of for that reason. | 也是因为这个原因 |
| 516 | Like now that I'm on the other side of it and have good pronunciation and people can | 就像现在我站在另一边 并有很好的发音和人们可以 |
| 517 | hear that, I get to have those experiences and I can see like why it's valuable, why | 听着,我得到了这些经历 我能理解为什么它的价值,为什么 |
| 518 | it was always valuable to me. | 对我来说总是很值钱的 |
| 519 | So in conclusion, immersion alone is not enough because we have seen that there are people | 因此,最后,光是沉浸是不够的,因为我们已经看到有人 |
| 520 | who live for 20 plus years in another country without learning language at all, or you know, | 在另一个国家生活了20多年 完全没有学习语言,或者你知道, |
| 521 | as we said, it's a spectrum. | 正如我们所说,这是一个光谱。 |
| 522 | So like without learning it at all, or maybe they have, but not very much improvement or | 所以,像没有学习它, 或也许他们有, 但不是很改善或 |
| 523 | whatever. | 随便吧 |
| 524 | And we all kind of buy into this cultural myth that immersion is like this key that's | 我们都相信这个文化神话 浸泡就像这把钥匙 |
| 525 | going to unlock fluency and going to allow you to skip steps of learning and arrive at | 将解开流利 并允许你跳过步骤 学习到达 |
| 526 | fluency. | 流畅. |
| 527 | And we know now that that's not true. | 我们现在知道这不是真的。 |
| 528 | And if you're ever wondering why this might be happening to you, if you live in the country | 如果你想知道你为什么会这样 如果你住在这个国家 |
| 529 | where they speak the language you are learning and you're like, okay, well I'm living here | 他们讲的语言 你学的,你喜欢, 好吧,我住在这里 |
| 530 | now. | 现在 |
| 531 | This is like the maximum level of language learning at this point. | 这就像目前语言学习的最高水平. |
| 532 | That's how we tend to see it, right? | 这就是我们如何看它,对不对? |
| 533 | Like the final frontier of language learning. | 如语言学最后的前沿. |
| 534 | But it's like, okay, well I'm here now. | 但就像,好吧,我现在在这里。 |
| 535 | Why am I not improving? | 为什么我没有改进? |
| 536 | It's because as I said, effort is still required. | 这是因为正如我所说,仍然需要努力。 |
| 537 | But if you can adopt these things that I have mentioned, both the three tips that I gave | 但是,如果你能采纳这些事情 我已经提到, 两个我给出的三提示 |
| 538 | and like the three specific things that I did when I moved to Mexico, one of them requires | 就像我搬去墨西哥时所做的三件事一样 其中一件要求 |
| 539 | you to learn before you move. | 在你动之前先学着点 |
| 540 | But anyway, if you do the things that I talk about in this video, then that's going to | 但无论如何,如果你做 我谈论的东西 在这视频,然后,那会 |
| 541 | allow you to use this immersion, the immersion that you're in and actually get the benefit | 允许你使用这个浸泡, 你身处的浸泡 并且实际上得到好处 |
| 542 | from it and like supercharge your language abilities and become extremely fluent as I | 从它和像超级充电 你的语言能力 变得非常流利,像我一样 |
| 543 | feel like I have done with Spanish. | 感觉就像我用西班牙语做的一样 |
| 544 | So thank you so much for watching. | 所以,非常感谢你的观看。 |
| 545 | If you want to learn more about how I can help you specifically with the phonetics and | 如果你想多了解我怎样才能帮助你 具体地讲那些话和 |
| 546 | pronunciation aspect, you can go to phoneticfluency.com to learn more about what it is that I do. | (笑声) 发音方面,你可以去听电话fluency.com 了解我的工作。 |
| 547 | Either way, thank you so much for being here and I will see you in the next video. | 不管怎么样,谢谢你的到来 我会在下一个视频中看到你。 |
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| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
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| 0:00 | People seem to think of immersion as this magical portal that's going to let you skip | 人们似乎认为沉浸在这个神奇的入口 让你跳过 |
| 0:03 | all the steps of language learning while still arriving at the end result of learning the | 语言学习的所有步骤,同时仍然达到学习的最终结果 |
| 0:08 | language or becoming a fluent speaker of the language. | 语言或成为语言的流利语言。 |
| 0:10 | And that's really not the case. | 而事实并非如此。 |
| 0:13 | It's not to say that immersion doesn't work, because it does, but there's a right way | 并不是说浸泡不起作用,因为有,但有一个正确的方法 |
| 0:17 | and a wrong way to do it, and immersion alone is not going to help you learn a language. | 和错误的方法做它, 而浸润独自是不会帮助你学习语言。 |
| 0:22 | My name is Meredith with phoneticfluency.com. | 我叫梅瑞迪丝,有口交 |
| 0:25 | Welcome to another episode of the Fluency Habit Podcast. | 欢迎收看另一集"流利的哈比人" |
| 0:28 | In today's episode, I'll tell you why immersion alone doesn't work and what concrete steps | 在今天的剧集里,我会告诉你为什么独自沉浸是行不通的 以及什么样的具体步骤 |
| 0:33 | you can take or integrate into your life if you are living immersed in the language you're | 你可以接受或融入你的生活 如果你生活 浸透你的语言 |
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| 1 | People seem to think of immersion as this magical portal that's going to let you skip | 人们似乎认为沉浸在这个神奇的入口 让你跳过 |
| 2 | all the steps of language learning while still arriving at the end result of learning the | 语言学习的所有步骤,同时仍然达到学习的最终结果 |
| 3 | language or becoming a fluent speaker of the language. | 语言或成为语言的流利语言。 |
| 4 | And that's really not the case. | 而事实并非如此。 |
| 5 | It's not to say that immersion doesn't work, because it does, but there's a right way | 并不是说浸泡不起作用,因为有,但有一个正确的方法 |
| 6 | and a wrong way to do it, and immersion alone is not going to help you learn a language. | 和错误的方法做它, 而浸润独自是不会帮助你学习语言。 |
| 7 | My name is Meredith with phoneticfluency.com. | 我叫梅瑞迪丝,有口交 |
| 8 | Welcome to another episode of the Fluency Habit Podcast. | 欢迎收看另一集"流利的哈比人" |
| 9 | In today's episode, I'll tell you why immersion alone doesn't work and what concrete steps | 在今天的剧集里,我会告诉你为什么独自沉浸是行不通的 以及什么样的具体步骤 |
| 10 | you can take or integrate into your life if you are living immersed in the language you're | 你可以接受或融入你的生活 如果你生活 浸透你的语言 |
| 11 | trying to learn in order to actually get the language learning benefit out of it and reach | 努力学习 以真正获得语言学习的好处 并达到 |
| 12 | your language learning goals. | 您的语言学习目标 。 |
| 13 | When I think about this myth about immersion, it's kind of like a collective cultural myth | 当我想到这个关于浸泡的神话, 它有点像一个集体的文化神话 |
| 14 | that we all have, and I think that the reason that this myth is so enduring is because it's | 我认为这个神话之所以如此持久 是因为 |
| 15 | kind of like a romantic idea. | 有点像浪漫的想法。 |
| 16 | It's like, oh, you know, I'm just going to get rid of all my things and move to the Italian | 就像,哦,你知道的,我只是要去 摆脱我的一切 并搬到意大利人 |
| 17 | countryside, and even if I don't speak a single word of Italian when I get there, I'm just | 乡下,即使我不说一个意大利语 当我到达那里,我只是 |
| 18 | going to pick it up from interacting with the locals or going to the market and just | 从与当地人互动开始 或者去市场 |
| 19 | living my life. | 过着我的生活 |
| 20 | But other than being a romantic idea, I think also there's part of this idea that seems | 但除了浪漫的想法外,我想这个想法中还有一部分似乎 |
| 21 | like it should be true. | 像它应该是真实的。 |
| 22 | I mean, like somehow logically, we think about, well, if I'm there, I'm hearing the language | 我的意思是,像某种逻辑, 我们思考,嗯,如果我在那里, 我听到的语言 |
| 23 | around me all the time, I'm interacting in it, you know, people are teaching me words | 总是在我身边,我在互动,你知道, 人们在教我说话 |
| 24 | that I don't learn and that I don't know, I'm learning these words and I'm kind of like | 我不学,我不知道, 我正在学习这些词 我有点像 |
| 25 | having to use them to express myself and get through daily life. | 不得不用它们来表达自己 并度过日常生活 |
| 26 | So like I should end up learning the language. | 所以我应该学习语言。 |
| 27 | But try to think about if you know anyone who's lived in another country for a long | 想想你是否认识一个 在别的国家生活了很久的人 |
| 28 | time and doesn't really speak the language. | 时间和不真正说语言。 |
| 29 | We can see so many examples of this being true, and I think it's kind of a spectrum | 我们可以看到这么多的例子 这是真实的, 我认为这是一种光谱 |
| 30 | because I've met people on different parts of the spectrum. | 因为我在谱系的不同部分见过人 |
| 31 | Like I've met people who have lived in another country for many years and they do speak the | 就像我见过的人 谁住在另一个国家 多年,他们确实说 |
| 32 | language like they understand everything they hear and they manage to get by in the language, | 语言就像他们理解 他们听到的一切 他们设法通过语言, |
| 33 | but they never really sound fluent and they never really feel fully fluent. | 但他们从来没有真正听起来流利 他们从来没有真正感到完全流利。 |
| 34 | Like they always feel like the language is a handicap and that it would be better if | 就像他们总觉得语言有缺陷 如果 |
| 35 | they could just speak their native language. | 他们只能说他们的母语。 |
| 36 | On the other hand, I have met people who have lived in countries for like a really long | 另一方面,我遇见了 住在国家里的人,他们像一个很长的 |
| 37 | time, you know, like 20 plus years and really don't speak the language at all. | 时间,你知道,像20多年 和真的不说语言 在所有。 |
| 38 | Like, I mean, maybe the basic, basic phrases, but not anything past that. | 比如,我意思是,也许基本,基本的短语, 但不是任何过去。 |
| 39 | And so this kind of disproves our myth that immersion alone is going to teach you a language. | 因此,这种否定了我们的神话: 独自沉浸将教你一种语言。 |
| 40 | And so if that's not the case, then what is? | 所以,如果不是这样, 那么是什么? |
| 41 | I'm not saying immersion doesn't work. | 我不是说浸泡不行 |
| 42 | It certainly does, but you have to do it the right way, which I will talk about in just | 当然,但你必须做正确的方式, 我会谈论的只是 |
| 43 | a bit in the video. | 在视频里有点。 |
| 44 | But first I want to talk about the reasons why. | 但首先我想谈谈原因 |
| 45 | The number one reason is that if you take away only one thing from this video, it should | 头一个原因是,如果你从这段视频中只拿走一件事,它应该 |
| 46 | be this at the end of the day, learning a language is always going to require effort | 学习语言总是需要努力 |
| 47 | on your part. | 就你来说 |
| 48 | Learning a language is not something that happens by accident. | 学习一种语言不是偶然发生的。 |
| 49 | But besides that, there are some specific reasons why immersion alone isn't going to | 但除此之外, 有一些具体的理由 为何独自沉浸不会 |
| 50 | really help you learn the language. | 真的帮助你学习语言。 |
| 51 | And let's start with the first reason, which is kind of like geared towards beginners. | 让我们从第一个原因开始, 这有点像面向初学者。 |
| 52 | Like if you, you know, in this kind of idealized version that I, that I described at the beginning, | 就像你,你知道,在这种理想化的版本 我,我在开始描述, |
| 53 | you just arrive at a, at a certain country, in a certain country rather, where you don't | 你只是来到某个国家, 某个国家, 某个国家,你没有 |
| 54 | speak a word of the language. | 说一个语言。 |
| 55 | If you're a beginner, native speakers will pick up on that and they will do one of two | 如果你是初学者, 本地人会接听, 他们会做两个之一 |
| 56 | things. | 东西。 |
| 57 | They will switch languages or they will avoid talking to you. | 他们会调换语言,或者避免和你说话。 |
| 58 | So let's say that you're trying to speak in this language and like, maybe you can do | 所以,让我们假设你试图 用这种语言说话, 像,也许你可以 |
| 59 | basic stuff. | 基本的东西。 |
| 60 | Like you can say, hello, good morning. | 就像你可以说,你好,早上好。 |
| 61 | And you can do like a coffee order or order in a restaurant or something like that. | 你可以做一个咖啡 订购在餐馆或类似的东西。 |
| 62 | But at the end of the day, like the people, the native speakers, the waiters, you know, | 但到了最后,像人民, 母语,服务员,你知道, |
| 63 | whoever, they're going to pick up on the fact that while you might know some basics, | 不管是谁,他们都会发现 你可能知道一些基本知识 |
| 64 | you don't really speak this language. | 你真的不会说这种语言。 |
| 65 | And when that happens, like I said, one of two things, they'll either switch languages | 就像我说过的,两件事之一 他们要么换语言 |
| 66 | to you. | 给你的。 |
| 67 | Like, you know, if you're in a touristy area, they'll probably switch to English with you | 喜欢,你知道,如果你在一个旅游区, 他们可能会转换为英语和你在一起 |
| 68 | or, you know, whatever the case may be. | 或者,你知道,不管情况如何。 |
| 69 | Or if they speak your language, they might switch to that language with you, but they | 或者如果他们说出你的语言, 他们可能会跟你换语言,但他们 |
| 70 | might switch languages because they think they're being helpful to you because they | 可能换语言,因为他们认为 他们帮助你,因为他们 |
| 71 | can hear you struggling and they might not think of it like, oh, well, they want to practice. | 听到你在挣扎 他们可能不会想到他们想练习 |
| 72 | And so they'll just switch languages or they will avoid talking to you. | 所以他们只会切换语言 或者避免和你说话 |
| 73 | I mean, obviously they'll continue talking to you if they're like your waiter and they're | 我的意思是,很明显,他们会继续和你说话 如果他们是你的服务生和他们 |
| 74 | taking your order. | 接受你的订单。 |
| 75 | But imagine it's more of like, you know, a social situation where you're trying to | 但想象一下,这更像是,你知道, 一个社会状况,你试图 |
| 76 | chat and like do small talk and make friends. | 聊天和做小说和交朋友 |
| 77 | It sounds kind of harsh, but like people will somewhat avoid talking to you. | 这听起来有点苛刻, 但像人们会 有点避免和你说话。 |
| 78 | And I don't think it comes from a mean place. | 我不认为它来自一个恶劣的地方。 |
| 79 | I think what it is, is they can sense the lack of fluency. | 我认为,这是什么, 他们能感觉到缺乏流利。 |
| 80 | And so avoiding talking to you that much is kind of their natural reaction because the | 所以,避免和你说话 很多是 他们自然的反应,因为 |
| 81 | underlying assumption is, OK, I can hear them. | 基本假设是,好吧,我可以听到他们。 |
| 82 | They don't sound very fluent. | 听起来不太流利 |
| 83 | And so they don't really speak this language. | 所以他们不会说这种语言。 |
| 84 | So if I talk to them, they're not really going to understand what I say. | 所以如果我和他们说话, 他们不会真正理解我说的话。 |
| 85 | And so naturally, they kind of avoid talking to you that much. | 自然,他们会避免和你说话 |
| 86 | Again, it might sound mean, but try to put yourself in their shoes or like maybe think | 再说一遍,听起来可能很刻薄 但试着让自己站在他们的立场上 |
| 87 | of this. | 这个 |
| 88 | Think if this has happened to you. | 想想这是否发生在你身上。 |
| 89 | Like, have you ever talked to someone who is really a beginner in your language and | 喜欢,你曾经与一个 真正的初学者 你的语言和 |
| 90 | maybe the things they say, you don't even really fully understand them or they don't | 也许他们说的话,你甚至不 完全理解他们或者他们不 |
| 91 | make a lot of sense. | 说得有道理 |
| 92 | It's like, well, if they if I can't really understand what they're saying and they're | 这就像,嗯,如果他们 如果我不能真正理解 他们说什么,他们是 |
| 93 | speaking my language, like, how are they going to understand me if I talk to them? | 说出我的语言,喜欢, 他们会如何理解我 如果我与他们说话? |
| 94 | So we just all in that situation kind of have a natural inclination to avoid talking to | 所以,我们只是所有在这种情况下 有种自然的倾向 避免说话 |
| 95 | that person or, as I mentioned in the beginning, switching languages so that we can actually | 那个人,或者,正如我在开头提到的, 切换语言,这样我们就可以实际上 |
| 96 | converse with them. | 与他们交谈。 |
| 97 | So that's the first reason that immersion isn't really going to work for you, immersion | 所以,这是第一个原因 浸泡不会真正为你工作,浸泡 |
| 98 | alone, especially if you are just moving to another country as a complete beginner in | 独自一人,特别是如果你只是搬到另一个国家 作为一个完整的初学者 |
| 99 | this language. | 这种语言。 |
| 100 | The other reason is that native speakers won't correct you. | 另一个原因是说本地话的人不会纠正你. |
| 101 | And this applies a little bit more to people beyond the beginner phase of language learning. | 这更适用于语言学习初学者。 |
| 102 | So if you do actually speak this language somewhat, but you're not like a totally fluent | 所以如果你真的会说这种语言 但你不像一个完全流利的人 |
| 103 | speaker, you're maybe upper beginner or like intermediate or something like that. | 扬声器,你可能是上位初学者 或者像中间人物之类的 |
| 104 | The problem that you'll run into now is that native speakers won't correct you because | 你现在遇到的问题是 讲母语的人不会纠正你 |
| 105 | like if they are talking to you, as long as they understand the main idea of what you're | 就像他们跟你说话一样 只要他们理解你是什么 |
| 106 | trying to say, they're not going to correct whatever mistakes that you made. | 他们不会纠正你犯下的任何错误 |
| 107 | And once again, this isn't coming from a bad place. | 再说一遍,这不是从一个坏地方来的 |
| 108 | It's usually one of two things. | 通常为两件事之一. |
| 109 | And the first one is they are assuming that it would be rude of them to correct your English | 第一个是他们假设 他们纠正你的英语很不礼貌 |
| 110 | or Spanish or insert language here. | 或西班牙语或在此插入语言。 |
| 111 | And in a way, they're actually kind of right in assuming that the thing about giving corrections | 从某种意义上说,他们实际上 假设 做修正的事情 |
| 112 | is it's kind of, it's like a delicate thing. | 是那种, 它就像一个微妙的东西。 |
| 113 | You know, like for example, I am a non-native speaker of Spanish and I feel pretty good | 举个例子,我是不会说西班牙语的,我感觉很好 |
| 114 | about my fluency, right? | 关于我的流利,对不对? |
| 115 | But obviously there are still situations where I'll make mistakes and not in every one of | 但显然还是有些情况 我会犯错误 而不是在每一个 |
| 116 | those situations do I want someone to correct me. | 那些情况我想有人纠正我 |
| 117 | It depends who that person is, what their relationship is to me, what the context of | 这取决于这个人是谁, 他们和我的关系,什么背景 |
| 118 | the situation is. | 情况是这样的。 |
| 119 | But then on the other hand, there will be some situations where I would like someone | 但另一方面,有些情况下我想找个人 |
| 120 | to correct me. | 来纠正我 |
| 121 | And if you're talking to a stranger in like a, like I said, customer service sort of situation | 如果你和陌生人说话 就像我说的 客户服务之类的情况 |
| 122 | or a social situation, that stranger is not really going to know if they, if they're okay | 或社会状况, 那个陌生人不会真正知道 他们,如果他们没事 |
| 123 | to correct you, you know? | 要纠正你,你知道吗? |
| 124 | So most of the time they won't because it could be rude and likely would be rude to | 所以大部分时间他们不会 因为那样可能很粗鲁 也可能很粗鲁 |
| 125 | do so. | 这样做。 |
| 126 | But the other part of this is that native speakers are not teachers and it is a specific | 但另一部分是讲母语的人不是老师, |
| 127 | ability. | 能力。 能力。 |
| 128 | Like it might seem kind of easy because we all, you know, speak our native language and | 可能看起来很简单 因为我们都说我们的母语 |
| 129 | understand what sounds good and what doesn't, but the role of a teacher is very specific. | 理解什么听起来好,什么没有, 但教师的角色是非常具体的。 |
| 130 | It's like a certain ability that you have in order to hear mistakes, point them out | 这就像你一定的能力 为了听到错误,指出它们 |
| 131 | in the right way and coach the person into the correct answer in the right way. | 以正确的方式将人引导到正确的答案中 |
| 132 | So native speakers are not all going to be good at this and I have personal experience | 所以说本地话的人不会都擅长这个 我有个人经验 |
| 133 | with this because for example, my boyfriend is a native Spanish speaker. | 我男朋友是讲西班牙语的土生土长 |
| 134 | He's from Mexico and there are many times when I kind of wish he could help me with | 他来自墨西哥 我曾多次希望他能帮我 |
| 135 | my Spanish in certain ways, especially when like, I know there's a specific word that | 我的西班牙语在某些方面, 特别是当喜欢, 我知道有一个特定的词 |
| 136 | I've heard before that fits in a situation and I kind of try to say like, oh, I'm looking | 我之前听过那种情况 我想说,哦,我看着 |
| 137 | for this word that's like this and da, da, da, da, da. | 对于这个词,就像这个和达,达,达,达。 |
| 138 | Like he, he really, because he's not a teacher, he's not a trained language teacher. | 和他一样,他真的,因为他不是老师,也不是受过训练的语言老师. |
| 139 | He doesn't always help me in the way that maybe I would like for him to do so, you know? | 他并不总是帮助我的方式 也许我会希望他这样做,你知道吗? |
| 140 | And so you watching this video, if you have people in your life who are native speakers | 所以,你看这视频, 如果你有的人在你的生活中 谁是母语 |
| 141 | of the language you're trying to learn, you can probably relate to this. | 在你试图学习的语言中, 你也许可以涉及到这一点。 |
| 142 | Just regular normal native speakers aren't teachers. | 只是普通的母语不是老师 |
| 143 | And so sometimes when you kind of wish they could help you, sometimes they might try, | 所以有时当你有点希望 他们可以帮助你, 有时他们可能尝试, |
| 144 | but they can't really help. | 但他们帮不了忙 |
| 145 | The third reason you're going to struggle is because native speakers will not correct | 你挣扎的第三个原因是 讲母语的人不会纠正 |
| 146 | your pronunciation. | 你的发音。 |
| 147 | Once you're beyond beginner and intermediate levels and you become like an advanced speaker | 一旦你超越初学者和中级水平 你就变成一个高级演说家 |
| 148 | of the language, you're going to have probably pretty high levels of vocabulary and grammar, | 在语言中,你可能会有 相当高的词汇和语法水平, |
| 149 | but not necessarily high levels of pronunciation and phonetics. | 但不一定是高发音和语音. |
| 150 | This is what happens to a lot of my students. | 我很多学生都这样 |
| 151 | They've lived in the US for a long time. | 他们在美国生活了很久 |
| 152 | Their level of English is very, very high. | 他们的英语水平非常,非常高. |
| 153 | They can understand everything they hear, even with fast speech, even with slang and | 他们能理解他们听到的一切, 即使用快速的言语, 甚至用口号和 |
| 154 | all of these kinds of things. | 所有这些事情。 |
| 155 | And they can say basically anything they want to say in English, but they haven't learned | 他们基本上可以用英语说出他们想说的话,但他们还没有学到 |
| 156 | necessarily the phonemes of English, like the specific sounds that we use in English | 一定是英语的电话 就像我们用英语发的 |
| 157 | that are not used in their native language. | 他们的母语没有使用。 |
| 158 | And this is going to hinder their comprehension or, I mean, hinder the way that other people | 这将会妨碍他们的理解 或者,我的意思是,阻碍别人的方式 |
| 159 | comprehend them. | 理解他们。 |
| 160 | So how can someone live in a country for a long time and not ever really pick up the | 所以一个人怎么能在一个国家 生活了很长时间 从来没有真正拿起 |
| 161 | accent? | 口音吗? |
| 162 | It's kind of what we saw before, right? | 这是我们以前看到的,对不对? |
| 163 | So mastering the accent isn't something that happens by accident. | 所以掌握口音不是偶然发生的 |
| 164 | It's something that you actually need to try to do and put an effort to do. | 这是你真正需要做的 并努力去做。 |
| 165 | Maybe if you're very young, it might happen to you. | 也许如果你很年轻,它可能会发生在你身上。 |
| 166 | Like for example, I have a friend who moved to the US when he was 15 and he has like a | 比如说,我有个朋友 他15岁时搬到美国 他就像一个 |
| 167 | nearly native accent in English, and I think that's because at that age, a lot of those | 几乎是英语的本地口音, 我想这是因为在那个年龄, 很多这些 |
| 168 | processes in the mind and in the muscles we use for articulation are kind of still going | 心灵和肌肉中的过程 被我们用来表达 |
| 169 | on that allowed him to really mimic what he heard and start speaking like a native speaker. | 这让他能模仿他听到的 开始像本地人一样说话 |
| 170 | But for most of us who start learning a language when we are later in life or older, it's something | 但对我们大多数人来说,当我们晚年或更年长时 开始学习一种语言, 这是一种东西 |
| 171 | that you're going to have to make an effort to do. | 你必须努力去做 |
| 172 | Like for example, Spanish is my second language and I think I have a pretty good accent in | 比如说,西班牙语是我的第二语言 我想我的口音不错 |
| 173 | Spanish, but that's because I tried. | 西班牙语,但那是因为我试过。 |
| 174 | From the beginning, it was always my goal to sound like a native speaker. | 从一开始,我的目标总是 听起来像一个母语。 |
| 175 | And so from the beginning, I was doing different exercises and drills and things like that | 所以从一开始,我一直在做不同的练习 钻孔之类的事情 |
| 176 | in order to develop my ability to speak the language, right? | 为了培养我讲语言的能力,对不对? |
| 177 | Using the same sounds that native speakers do. | 使用同样的声音 当地人说话。 |
| 178 | I also worked with an accent coach, so if I have a good accent in Spanish, it's because | 我也和口音教练一起工作 所以如果我有很好的西班牙语口音 是因为 |
| 179 | I really tried to do so. | 我真的想这样做。 |
| 180 | And the same is true for whatever your language is that you're learning. | 无论你的语言是什么,你正在学习。 |
| 181 | And similar to our last point as well, native speakers won't correct you for basically the | 和我们的最后一点一样, 母语不会纠正你基本上 |
| 182 | same reasons we talked about before. | 我们之前讨论过的原因一样 |
| 183 | They're going to think it's going to be rude and a lot of cases they might kind of be right | 他们会觉得这很无礼 很多案件他们可能是对的 |
| 184 | about that and they're not teachers. | 他们不是老师 |
| 185 | Something that native speakers are exceptionally good at doing is hearing when something doesn't | 讲土语的人特别擅长做一些事 就是听到一些东西不听的话 |
| 186 | sound right. | 听起来不错。 |
| 187 | So if you have different pronunciation than what they're used to hearing, they're going | 所以,如果你有不同的发音 比他们习惯听,他们去 |
| 188 | to know that it sounds different. | 要知道这听起来不同。 |
| 189 | And they're going to know you have an accent, but they are not good at saying why it sounds | 他们会知道你有口音 但他们不擅长说为什么听起来 |
| 190 | different and how to fix it. | 和如何修复它。 |
| 191 | So that's kind of why you have to work with an accent coach if that's the thing that you | 所以,这就是为什么你必须工作 与口音教练,如果这是你的事情 |
| 192 | want to work on. | 想继续工作 |
| 193 | The other thing about native speakers not correcting you is kind of the question of | 另一种关于母语的人不纠正你的问题就是 |
| 194 | like, why would they? | 为什么? |
| 195 | As long as they understand you in the end, it's kind of more efficient for them to just | 只要他们最终能理解你 他们就更有效率 |
| 196 | keep it moving. | 继续走 |
| 197 | Like it wouldn't be efficient from a time perspective for them to stop everything and | 就像从时间角度来说 阻止一切是无效的 |
| 198 | say, oh, well, you said this word kind of like this and the correct pronunciation is | 说,哦,好吧,你说这个词 像这样,正确的发音是 |
| 199 | like this. | 像这样 |
| 200 | And so you need to do this. | 所以,你需要做到这一点。 |
| 201 | Like, why would they do that if at the end of the day they understood what you said? | 如果最后他们明白你的话 他们为什么要这么做? |
| 202 | So that's why we can't rely on just immersion to master another language in terms of all | 所以我们不能只靠沉浸 掌握另一种语言 |
| 203 | of these factors like grammar, vocabulary, and also accent and pronunciation. | 包括语法,词汇,以及重音和发音等这些因素. |
| 204 | Essentially under these circumstances, your language abilities are never going to magically | 基本上在这种情况下,你的语言能力 永远不会神奇 |
| 205 | improve on their own. | 自己改进。 |
| 206 | So how do we overcome this? | 那么,我们如何克服这些? |
| 207 | You want to use this immersion that you have to your advantage because it is an incredibly | 你想用这种沉浸 对你有好处,因为它是一个不可思议的 |
| 208 | powerful tool. | 强大的工具。 |
| 209 | But as I said, there's a right way and a wrong way to do it. | 但如我所说有正法不善法. |
| 210 | So there are three tips I'm going to give you here of ways that you can kind of overcome | 因此,有三个提示,我给你 在这里的方式,你可以克服 |
| 211 | these obstacles. | 这些障碍。 |
| 212 | And then after that, I'm going to tell you about specifically kind of what I did when | 之后,我会告诉你 具体地说,我做了什么 |
| 213 | I moved to Mexico that really helped me make the most of the immersion of being constantly | 我搬到了墨西哥,这真的帮助我 尽可能地沉浸在不断 |
| 214 | around Spanish, which I was learning at the time to actually become really fluent in Spanish. | 我当时正在学西班牙语 真正能流利的西班牙语 |
| 215 | But first, let's start with these three tips or tools that I think you should integrate. | 但首先,让我们从这三个小说或工具开始,我认为你应该加以整合。 |
| 216 | And the first one is working with an actual teacher. | 而第一个是和真正的老师一起工作. |
| 217 | Even if you're living in the place where they speak the language that you're learning, as | 即使你住的地方 他们说话 你学习的语言,作为 |
| 218 | we've already looked at, immersion alone isn't enough for a variety of reasons. | 我们已经研究过了 光是浸泡还不够 原因很多 |
| 219 | And most of those reasons are related to native speakers not really being equipped to help | 这些原因大多都与 当地人没有真正能力帮助 |
| 220 | you for a variety of reasons. | 你因为各种原因。 |
| 221 | So when you work with an actual teacher, in a teaching environment, corrections aren't | 所以,当你与一个真正的老师合作, 在教学环境中,矫正不是 |
| 222 | considered rude. | 认为粗鲁。 |
| 223 | You know, native speakers won't correct you because it's going to be rude. | 你知道, 讲母语的人不会纠正你, 因为这将是无礼的。 |
| 224 | But the teacher, that's what you're paying them to do. | 但是老师,那是你付钱让他们做的。 |
| 225 | So they will offer you corrections. | 他们将给你改正。 |
| 226 | And the other thing is that we've talked a lot about how native speakers aren't necessarily | 另一件事是,我们已经谈了很多 如何使用本地语 |
| 227 | trained as teachers, and so they're not equipped to really coach and guide you. | 被训练为教师, 所以他们没有真正 教练和指导你。 |
| 228 | But a teacher is. | 但师是. |
| 229 | So when you do make a mistake and they do correct you, they're going to be able to help | 所以当你犯了错误 他们纠正了你 他们会帮助你 |
| 230 | you understand the concept and coach you to doing it the right way. | 你明白这个概念 并指导你以正确的方式去做 |
| 231 | And also, a teacher is patient. | 师亦有忍. |
| 232 | So when you're living in another country and are living your life, you have to consider | 所以,当你生活在另一个国家, 生活你的生活, 你必须考虑 |
| 233 | that the native speakers you're interacting with, they're often just living their lives | 与你互动的土著演说家 他们常常只是过着自己的生活 |
| 234 | as well. | 临Τ |
| 235 | And so they're going to choose, many times, the most efficient way to do things. | 所以他们要选择,很多次,最有效的方法来做事情。 |
| 236 | And a lot of times, the most efficient way to do things is not to offer corrections or | 很多时候,最有效的方法 做事情 不提供纠正或 |
| 237 | help you with your language abilities. | 帮助您掌握语言能力。 |
| 238 | As long as they understood you, they're just going to keep it moving because, you know, | 只要他们了解你,他们就会继续移动 因为,你知道, |
| 239 | for time's sake. | 因为时间的原因。 |
| 240 | But when you're working with a teacher, their job is to help you improve your language abilities. | 但是当你和老师一起工作的时候,他们的工作就是帮助你提高语言能力. |
| 241 | So they are going to be patient with you and take the time to explain why something was | 所以他们要耐心对待你 慢慢解释为什么 |
| 242 | wrong and how you can make it better. | 错误和如何使它更好。 |
| 243 | So for example, something that happens a lot in my classes is that students say a word | 比如说,我上课时经常发生的事情 就是学生说一句话 |
| 244 | wrong, and I don't understand the word at all. | 我完全听不懂这个词 |
| 245 | Like I literally don't know what they said. | 好像我不知道他们说了什么 |
| 246 | But then a couple words later, my brain catches up and I figure out what it was they said. | 但后来我说了几句话, 我的大脑赶上了,我知道他们说了什么。 |
| 247 | That could be from the context of the words that they said after, or I don't know, my | 这可能是从他们说的话的背景 之后,或者我不知道,我的 |
| 248 | brain just had like a four second delay and I finally was like, ah, okay, that was the | 大脑只有四秒钟的延迟 我终于... |
| 249 | word. | 词 |
| 250 | But that's not the experience that I want my students to have in the real world with | 但这不是我想要我的学生在现实世界中拥有的经验 |
| 251 | their English. | 他们的英语。 |
| 252 | Like I don't want them to be speaking English and the people listening to them have to have | 就像我不希望他们说英语 和人们听他们的有 |
| 253 | this four second buffer period to realize what they said. | 这4个第二个缓冲期 以实现他们说的话。 |
| 254 | I want it to be instant so that your message is properly transmitted the first time that | 我希望它立刻,以便你的消息 正确传递在第一次, |
| 255 | you speak. | 你说话。 |
| 256 | So even though I understood the word, I still take the time to explain it. | 因此,尽管我理解这个词,我仍然需要时间来解释它。 |
| 257 | In a real life scenario with a native speaker, they hear the word, they don't understand | 在现实生活中 讲母语的人 听到这个词 他们不懂 |
| 258 | and then their brain catches up or the context makes it clear what the word was, they're | 然后他们的大脑赶上 或背景 清楚它是什么词,他们是 |
| 259 | just going to move on because at the end of the day they understood you. | 只是要继续前进,因为最后 他们理解你。 |
| 260 | But as a teacher, I'm going to pause and say, okay, when you said that word, at first I | 但是作为一个老师,我要暂停 说,好吧,当你说这个词,一开始我 |
| 261 | didn't understand it because you said it like this and it should be like this. | 不理解,因为你这样说 应该是这样 |
| 262 | So can we try that again? | 我们能再试一次吗? |
| 263 | So that's another reason it's important to work with a teacher. | 所以这是另一个与老师合作很重要的原因. |
| 264 | The second thing that I recommend that you try to do to kind of overcome these obstacles | 我建议你努力克服这些障碍 |
| 265 | for immersion is intentional practice. | 浸润是故意的行为。 |
| 266 | When you're living in the place where they speak the language, you're going to feel like | 当你住在他们讲语言的地方 你会觉得 |
| 267 | you're doing practice all day, every day anyways, because you're going out, you're speaking, | 你整天都在练习 每天都在练习 因为你要出去 你说 |
| 268 | you're hearing the language all around you and that is true, you are practicing. | 你听到你周围的语言 这是真的,你在练习。 |
| 269 | But what I'm talking about is something else. | 但我说的是别的东西。 |
| 270 | It's intentional practice. | 谓有意修行. |
| 271 | Something that you do alone, maybe one-on-one with a teacher, but more so like something | 你单独做的一些事情,也许一对一 老师,但更喜欢的东西 |
| 272 | that you probably do alone. | 你可能一个人做。 |
| 273 | And I'm not going to go in a ton of depth into like a bunch of examples of this. | 我不会在一吨深的深度 进入到像这一系列的例子。 |
| 274 | I'm going to give a few examples so you get the idea. | 我要举几个例子,让你明白这个想法。 |
| 275 | But the training or exercises that you do is going to depend on what facet of your language | 但你的训练或练习 取决于你语言的方方面面 |
| 276 | you're trying to improve. | 你试图改进。 |
| 277 | And the constant immersion that you're experiencing is going to help guide your focus. | 你所经历的不断的沉浸 将帮助引导你的注意力。 |
| 278 | So if you notice this thing is hard or this thing is hard, that's where you're going to | 所以,如果你注意到这个东西是难的 或这个东西是难的, 这就是你要去的地方 |
| 279 | practice, that's where you're going to focus your practice. | 练习,这就是你要去 集中你的练习。 |
| 280 | So I like to divide language abilities into three, which are vocabulary, grammar, and | 所以我喜欢将语言能力分为三个,即词汇、语法和 |
| 281 | phonetics. | 电话 |
| 282 | So for vocabulary, for example, you guys already know I love Anki, the app, which is totally | 举例来说,关于词汇,你们已经知道我爱安琪了,这个应用是完全的 |
| 283 | free. | 免费。 |
| 284 | I have a video explaining how to set that up, but anyways, if you notice that you hear | 我有一个视频解释如何设置, 但无论如何,如果你注意到你听到 |
| 285 | words and you don't recognize them, you need to write those down or put them in your phone | 单词又不认得,要写下来或者放在手机里 |
| 286 | and then add them to your Anki set and then study them later. | 然后把它们加进你的安琪套装 然后再研究 |
| 287 | So one form of intentional practice would be reviewing your Anki set to review the new | 因此,一种形式的故意做法是审查你的安琪套件,以审查新的 |
| 288 | vocabulary that you've been learning in this immersive environment. | 你在这个浸润的环境中学到的词汇。 |
| 289 | So you're actually taking advantage of the environment by learning these words and then | 所以,你实际上利用环境 通过学习这些词,然后 |
| 290 | using Anki to make sure that they stay with you. | 利用安琪确保他们和你在一起 |
| 291 | If the facet you're trying to improve is grammar, you might have heard a certain grammatical | 如果你试图改进的面孔是语法, 你可能已经听到某种语法 |
| 292 | structure that was unfamiliar to you or that you don't feel like you know very well. | 结构,你并不熟悉 或者你觉得自己不太清楚。 |
| 293 | And then you go and read an article about it, look it up, like try to understand how | 然后你去读一篇关于它的文章, 查一下,像试图理解如何 |
| 294 | it works and then maybe do one of these online quizzes to test your ability and like improve | 然后做一个在线测验 测试你的能力 并喜欢提高 |
| 295 | your ability in that. | 你在这方面的能力。 |
| 296 | When it comes to phonetics, that's my area of expertise, so I can think of like a million | 说到口语,那是我的专业领域 所以我可以想到一百万 |
| 297 | different examples of things that you can do, like specific drills and exercises to | 不同的例子,你可以做的东西, 如具体的练习和练习 |
| 298 | improve your pronunciation. | 提高你的读音。 |
| 299 | But on a really simple level, the best thing you can do is shadowing or reading out loud. | 但是在一个非常简单的层面上, 你所能做的最好的事情是 跟踪或大声读出来。 |
| 300 | The things that I give to my students are often more specific, depending on like what | 我给学生的东西往往更具体 取决于什么 |
| 301 | specific thing they're trying to work on so that I have certain exercises related to mastering | 具体的事情,他们正在试图工作 这样我有一些练习 与掌握 |
| 302 | a certain sound or exercises related to connected speech or rhythm or things like that. | 一定的声音或练习与连接的语音或节奏或者类似的东西有关. |
| 303 | Finally, the third tip I have for you is about your curiosity. | 最后,我给你的第三个提示是 你的好奇心。 |
| 304 | So even though you feel like you're probably improving just by being around the language | 所以,尽管你觉得 你可能正在改善 只是通过周围的语言 |
| 305 | all the time, you need to make sure that you maintain this insatiable sense of curiosity | 一直以来,你需要确保 你保持这种无厌的好奇心 |
| 306 | towards the language, like a constant hunger to continually grow your knowledge about the | 向着语言,就像不断的饥饿 不断增长你的知识 |
| 307 | language. | 语言。 |
| 308 | When I moved to Mexico, it really did supercharge my Spanish a lot, but there were these key | 当我搬到墨西哥时,它真的 超量加载我的西班牙语,但有这些钥匙 |
| 309 | things that I did to make sure that my Spanish continued to grow in this immersive environment, | 我做了一些事情来确保我的西班牙语 继续在这种浸润的环境中生长, |
| 310 | and the immersive environment was actually like adding to my language knowledge. | 而浸润的环境 实际上就像增加了我的语言知识。 |
| 311 | One of those things was having the constant curiosity, but I'm going to talk about that | 其中一个是一直好奇 但我要谈谈 |
| 312 | more in just a second. | 再过一会儿 |
| 313 | Let's take a moment to talk about these three things in order that I did in order to make | 让我们花点时间谈谈这三件事 为了让我做 |
| 314 | sure that when I moved to Mexico, I could actually take full, full, full advantage of | 当然,当我搬到墨西哥, 我实际上可以 完全,完全,完全的优势 |
| 315 | the immersion and use it to supercharge my Spanish. | 沉浸和用它来给我的西班牙语加压。 |
| 316 | The first one is I already spoke Spanish when I moved. | 第一个是我搬家的时候已经说西班牙语了 |
| 317 | This is really, really key because as I said at the top of the video, a lot of people have | 这真的很,真的很关键 因为我在视频的顶部说过,很多人都有 |
| 318 | this idea that you can just move to a country with no knowledge and you're just going to | 这个想法,你可以 只是搬到一个没有知识的国家 你只是要去 |
| 319 | pick up the language. | 捡起语言. |
| 320 | This is not true for all of these reasons that we saw before. | 由于我们以前看到的所有这些原因,情况并非如此。 |
| 321 | If you really don't speak the language, people aren't going to talk to you, frankly. | 如果你真的不说语言, 人们不会跟你说话,坦率地说。 |
| 322 | They're just not. | 他们只是没有。 |
| 323 | And so when I moved to Mexico, I already had, like if we're looking at that scale of A1, | 所以,当我搬到墨西哥,我已经有, 像如果我们看A1的尺度, |
| 324 | A2, B1, B2, I probably had like a B2 level of Spanish. | A2,B1,B2,我大概有B2级的西班牙语 |
| 325 | So I already could basically talk about essentially any topic. | 所以我基本上可以谈论任何话题。 |
| 326 | And so what this did is it allowed people to actually be able to talk to me and for | 因此,它使得人们可以 真正能够和我说话,并且为 |
| 327 | people to actually want to talk to me because I wasn't like so beginner that I wasn't a | 人们真的想跟我说话 因为我不是那么刚开始的人 |
| 328 | decent conversationalist. | 正直的对话家。 |
| 329 | I was a good conversation partner. | 我是一个很好的谈话伙伴。 |
| 330 | If I had really like a really shaky level of Spanish when I had moved, this would have | 如果我真的喜欢 真正的不稳定水平的西班牙语 当我搬家,这将是 |
| 331 | the door on so many possible opportunities for me to speak Spanish with people and get | 我有很多机会可以和别人说西班牙语 |
| 332 | that practice. | 那个练习。 |
| 333 | So by having an actually decent level of Spanish when I moved, this granted me access to so | 我搬家的时候, 有了像样的西班牙语水平, 才让我有机会 |
| 334 | many more opportunities to speak Spanish and continue learning Spanish. | 有更多的机会说西班牙语和继续学习西班牙语。 |
| 335 | So that's number one, already speaking by the time I moved here. | 这是第一,在我搬来的时候已经说过了。 |
| 336 | And the second thing is relating to this last tip that I told you about, which is having | 第二件事与我告诉你的最后一点有关 |
| 337 | an insatiable curiosity about the language. | 对语言的无厌好奇 |
| 338 | This was really one of the biggest keys to making immersion work for me and allowing | 这真的是一个最大的钥匙 使浸泡工作对我来说和允许 |
| 339 | me to become really, really fluent in Spanish, because as I said, I was at a B2 level. | 我变得非常,非常流利的西班牙语, 因为正如我所说的,我是一个B2级。 |
| 340 | So I honestly, I probably could have stopped there in a way. | 老实说,我也许可以停在那里 |
| 341 | And I think for many people, it's kind of like that, like when you move to a country | 我想对很多人来说,就像你搬到一个国家一样 |
| 342 | and you already speak enough of the language to get by for a lot of people, this feels | 你已经说得够多 语言可以让很多人通过, 这感觉 |
| 343 | kind of like the finish line, because it's like I could have stayed at B2 and lived my | 有点像终点线,因为我仿佛可以留在B2,过着自己的生活 |
| 344 | life like that and probably been OK. | 那样的生活,也许还好。 |
| 345 | And I would have made lots of mistakes, but people would have still understood me for | 我本来会犯很多错误 但人们还是会理解我 |
| 346 | the most part and it would have been fine. | 大部分,而且它会一直很好。 |
| 347 | But I love languages and I always had this goal that I wanted to speak Spanish as well | 但我喜欢语言,我总有这个目标 我也想说西班牙语 |
| 348 | as I possibly, possibly could. | 我可能,也许可以。 |
| 349 | So that's what allowed me to maintain this insatiable hunger for knowledge around the | 所以,这就是让我保持 这种无厌的渴望 知识周围 |
| 350 | language. | 语言。 |
| 351 | So while I was immersed every day in Spanish, basically every day was more of | 所以当我每天用西班牙语浸泡时 基本上每天更像是 |
| 352 | a learning opportunity. | 一个学习的机会。 |
| 353 | So I actually have this notebook here and this notebook, I carried it around with me | 所以我有一本笔记本 一本笔记本,我带着它到处走 |
| 354 | everywhere when I first moved to Mexico. | 我第一次搬到墨西哥时 到处都是 |
| 355 | And you could say that this is kind of like my curiosity notebook. | 你可以说这有点像我的好奇心笔记本。 |
| 356 | So everything I heard that I didn't understand or that I was curious about, I wrote it down | 所以,我听到的一切 我不明白或好奇,我写下来 |
| 357 | here. | 在这里。 |
| 358 | Or, for example, I always try to like make the configuration of my brain into | 或者,比如,我总是尝试 使我的大脑配置 |
| 359 | Spanish, like put the configuration of my brain in Spanish instead of in English. | 西班牙语,就像把我的大脑配置用西班牙语而不是用英语。 |
| 360 | This is another really good way to practice, because I was like having thoughts, you know, | 这是另一个很好的练习方式, 因为我喜欢有想法,你知道, |
| 361 | the same way you always have your internal monologue. | 就像你总是有你的内部独白。 |
| 362 | But I was having it like in Spanish instead of in English. | 但我用西班牙语而不是英语 |
| 363 | So I would say, oh, that's interesting. | 所以我会说,哦,这很有趣。 |
| 364 | How would I express that in Spanish? | 我要怎么用西班牙语表达? |
| 365 | I'm not sure. | 我不太确定 说不定 |
| 366 | And these kind of thoughts I would have, I would write them down in the | 我会把这些想法写在 |
| 367 | notebook. | 笔记本。 |
| 368 | And one of the biggest things the notebook was for was for understanding the | 笔记本上最重要的一件事 就是理解 |
| 369 | subjunctive. | 子节点。 |
| 370 | If you're a native speaker of Spanish, you probably don't even know what | 如果你是西班牙语的母语, 你可能甚至不知道什么 |
| 371 | this is. | 这是。 |
| 372 | But it's like the difference between like nosotros somos and nosotros seamos or | 但是这就像鼻音和鼻音的区别 |
| 373 | like nosotros fuimos or nosotros fuéramos. | 像诺索托斯·富伊莫斯或者诺索托斯·富埃拉莫斯 |
| 374 | The second one is like the subjunctive, which introduced this level of like unreal or like | 第二个像副连接, 它引入了这个级别 像不真实或类似 |
| 375 | hypothetical situations. | 假设的情况。 |
| 376 | So it's very difficult for non-native speakers of Spanish to grasp. | 因此,非母语西班牙语者很难把握. |
| 377 | And in this notebook, I would write down all kinds of things. | 在这本笔记本里,我会记下所有的事情。 |
| 378 | And then I would go and ask friends and roomies. | 然后我会去问朋友和室友 |
| 379 | And it is, you know, the teacher has a very specific role in this and it is good to have | 这是,你知道, 老师有一个非常具体的角色 在这个,这是很好的 |
| 380 | a teacher. | 一个老师。 |
| 381 | I also had a teacher at the same time, but I really enjoyed these kind of conversations | 我也同时有个老师 但我很喜欢这种谈话 |
| 382 | where I would ask native speakers who were not teachers because, you know, I am a teacher, | 我问那些不是老师的本地人, 因为我是老师, |
| 383 | so I kind of knew how to ask the question in the right way to get answers from them. | 所以我知道怎么用正确的方式问问题 才能从他们那里得到答案 |
| 384 | And it was interesting kind of watching how I was like obligating native speakers to think | 有趣的是,我看着自己像 义务让本地人思考 |
| 385 | about their language in a way they never had before and to say, OK, why does it sound this | 关于他们的语言 他们从来没有过的方式, 并说,OK,为什么听起来这样 |
| 386 | way? | 怎么样? |
| 387 | You know, why does it sound good this way? | 你知道,为什么听起来这样很好? |
| 388 | And why doesn't it sound good this way? | 为什么听起来不好吗? |
| 389 | Like, hmm, if both of them are correct, then like, what's the small change in meaning when | 就像,嗯,如果两者是正确的, 那么像, |
| 390 | I change this one thing? | 我改变一件事? |
| 391 | And hearing these kind of candid answers from native speakers allowed me to get a sense | 并听到这种 坦率的回答 从母语 使我得到感知 |
| 392 | for like how the language feels rather than the rules of the language. | 就像语言的感觉 而不是语言的规则 |
| 393 | For example, with the subjunctive, we all know if you are a non-native Spanish speaker | 例如,用副词,我们都知道你是不是非母语的西班牙人 |
| 394 | that the subjunctive has certain triggers. | 副作用有一定触发作用 |
| 395 | Like so when you say this and this, you know that the verb coming after should be triggered | 比如当你说这个和这个,你知道 后面的动词应该被触发 |
| 396 | into the subjunctive. | 进入子连接符。 |
| 397 | But when I would ask native speakers about these kind of things, rather than just learning | 但当我问本地人 有关这些事情, 不只是学习 |
| 398 | the rules, I was learning like how the subjunctive feels. | 规则,我在学习如何 亚结语的感觉。 |
| 399 | And that's for me, like the key to how I cracked the subjunctive. | 那是给我的 就像我如何解开副关节的关键 |
| 400 | And now I feel like I can use it perfectly. | 现在我觉得我可以完美地使用它。 |
| 401 | And I find it very fun and interesting to use. | 我发现它非常有趣和有趣的使用。 |
| 402 | So I wrote down some examples. | 所以我写了一些例子。 |
| 403 | Well, I mean, I went through the book and picked out a couple of examples. | 嗯,我的意思是,我翻阅了这本书 并挑选出几个例子。 |
| 404 | Honestly, everything in this book was really interesting from a linguistics perspective. | 老实说,从语言学的角度来看,这本书里的所有东西都很有趣。 |
| 405 | So it was hard for me to choose some. | 所以我很难选择一些。 |
| 406 | But there was a couple that I marked. | 但有对夫妇 我标记。 |
| 407 | One in particular I marked because I was thinking about it even before I opened the book. | 一个特别的,我标记是因为我在打开这本书之前就一直在考虑这个问题。 |
| 408 | But opening the book was crazy seeing all these things that I thought, you know, all | 但是,打开这本书是疯狂的 看到所有这些东西 我想,你知道,所有 |
| 409 | these years ago. | 这些年前 |
| 410 | But one in particular was, I remember my roommate said something to me that was like, | 但我记得室友对我说过的话 |
| 411 | Que bueno que somos rumis. 中国植物物种信息数据库. | |
| 412 | And I kind of understood that the que bueno que could be like a subjunctive trigger. | 我有点理解, que bueno que 可能像一个副连接触发器。 |
| 413 | And so I was like, why did she say somos instead of seamos? | 所以我想,为什么她说 somos而不是semos? |
| 414 | 所以在我的书里,我写下了 象 que bueno que somos 朗米斯和 que bueno que seamos 朗米斯。 | |
| 415 | And so I asked her, like, why did you say this one and not the other one? | 所以我问她,喜欢, 你为什么说这个而不是另一个? |
| 416 | And so she really thought about it. | 所以她真的考虑过了 |
| 417 | And I remember what she said. | 我记得她说的话 |
| 418 | 她就像,你知道,如果我告诉你 que bueno que somos romis, 它像的东西 | |
| 419 | already happened that kind of proved that us already being roommates is a good thing. | 这证明我们已经是室友是好事 |
| 420 | Like we were able to watch a movie together. | 就像我们能一起看电影一样 |
| 421 | So, like, that's great that we're roomies because there's already been a benefit and | 所以,像,这是伟大的,我们是室友 因为已经有好处和 |
| 422 | it's like a real benefit. | 这就像一个真正的好处。 |
| 423 | 但是,如果她说 que bueno que seamos romis, 她解释的方式是类似的东西, | |
| 424 | you know, this is like maybe we have newly become roomies or even if not, it's like we're | 你知道,这就像也许我们 刚成为室友,即使没有,它就像我们 |
| 425 | looking in my mind, the mind of the speaker, I'm like thinking forward to something that | 看着我的脑海,演讲者的脑海, 我就像在想一些事情 |
| 426 | in the future maybe will happen and the probability can vary a lot. | 未来也许会发生 概率会有很大差异 |
| 427 | Like maybe very probably or like maybe possibly could happen. | 可能有可能发生 |
| 428 | But it's like a future benefit that hasn't yet come to fruition. | 但是,这就像一个未来的好处 还没有取得成果。 |
| 429 | 这将是 que bueno que seamos Rumis。 | |
| 430 | So that's one example. | 这就是一个例子。 |
| 431 | I also wrote down things that just like came to my mind. | 我还写了些事情,我想起了 |
| 432 | So for example, I have one right here that says like how to talk about finishing things. | 比如说,我这里有一个 说到如何完成事情。 |
| 433 | Like for example, what's the difference between like terminar, acabar, acabarse and like all | 比如说,像白蚁,阿卡巴,阿卡巴 和像所有 |
| 434 | of this so that I could understand how to talk about finishing things. | 这样我才能理解 如何谈论完成的事情。 |
| 435 | Let's see. | 让我看看。 |
| 436 | This almost certainly came from a book which at one point I read Frankenstein in Spanish. | 这几乎肯定出自一本书, 我曾经读过弗兰肯斯坦的西班牙语。 |
| 437 | The translation was very good. | 译经甚妙. |
| 438 | Frankenstein is an amazing book in English or in Spanish. | 弗兰肯斯坦是一本英语或西班牙语的惊人书籍. |
| 439 | But anyway, I think maybe this came from this. | 但无论如何,我想也许这是从这个。 |
| 440 | 上面写着 假的 la voz más dulce que yo haya escuchado. | |
| 441 | And I was like, why is it aya? | 我当时想,为什么是Aya? |
| 442 | So I read that and I wrote it down. | 所以我读了它,我把它写下来。 |
| 443 | I was like, I need to understand why this is aya. | 我当时想,我需要理解 为什么这是Aya。 |
| 444 | And so then I wrote down the other possibilities. | 于是我记下了其他的可能性。 |
| 445 | Why not la voz más dulce que he escuchado or la que había escuchado? | 为何他不说出自己的话来? |
| 446 | And so then I asked someone and I have written in parentheses here, all three are correct. | 于是我问了一个人,我用括号写了这三句话,都是正确的。 |
| 447 | And so this is interesting to me because then as a native speaker explains it to me, I | 所以这对我来说很有趣 因为当一个本地人向我解释,我 |
| 448 | can see that the meaning changes. | 可以看到意义在改变。 |
| 449 | Like I could use all three of those and all three of them would be correct, but each of | 我可以用这三样东西 三个都没错 但每个 |
| 450 | them would have different meanings. | 他们有不同的意义。 |
| 451 | Another example of how I use this notebook is like when words were particularly challenging | 我用这本笔记本的另一个例子是 文字特别困难的时候 |
| 452 | for me, I would often like challenging to remember like a word that for whatever reason | 对我来说,我常常想挑战 记住一个词,因为任何原因 |
| 453 | I just couldn't remember. | 我只是不记得了。 |
| 454 | I remember I had this problem with the words cojín and cajón in Spanish. | 我记得我对西班牙语中的cojín和cajón有这种问题。 |
| 455 | It was like, I always mix these up because they're like sort of similar or whatever. | 这就像,我总是 混合这些 因为他们喜欢类似什么的。 |
| 456 | And then once I realized the connection, so for example, I, what I would do in these situations | 然后一旦我意识到了联系, 所以,举例来说,我,我会做什么 在这种情况下 |
| 457 | is go look up the etymology of the word and see where it came from originally. | 去查查这个词的词源 看看它最初的来源 |
| 458 | And this solved the issue for me. | 这解决了我的问题。 |
| 459 | So for example, cojín I learned is related to French. | 例如,我学到的cojín与法语有关。 |
| 460 | I'm going to pronounce this wrong, cousson, I guess, which stems from vulgar Latin coxinus, | 我要发错音了, 库森,我猜, 源自粗俗的拉丁克辛努斯, |
| 461 | which means seat pad, which comes from Latin coxa, which means hip, and possibly Latin | 意思是座椅垫,来自拉丁coxa,意思是臀部,也可能是拉丁语 |
| 462 | pelvinus pillow. | 皮尔文纳斯枕头。 |
| 463 | And so the English word cushion comes from the French word cousson from the Latin coxa. | 因此,英语单词缓冲来自法语单词cousson,来自拉丁coxa. |
| 464 | And so that means that the word cushion and cojín are connected through this shared root. | 也就是说,衬垫和cojín一词是通过这个共享根相连的。 |
| 465 | So when I think cushion, cousson, cojín, somehow in my mind, now they all connect together. | 所以,当我想到衬垫, 库森,cojín, 不知何故在我的脑海, 现在它们都连接在一起。 |
| 466 | And so now I'll never forget this word. | 所以现在我永远不会忘记这个词 |
| 467 | I'll never mess it up with cajón again. | 我不会再和卡琼搞混了 |
| 468 | And I realized that cajón is kind of like caja. | 我意识到卡约有点像卡约 |
| 469 | So it makes perfect sense. | 所以这很合理 |
| 470 | And so these are the kinds of things I was doing with this notebook. | 这些就是我用这本笔记本做的 |
| 471 | One last example, because I remember this one very specifically as well. | 最后一个例子,因为我记得这个非常具体的例子。 |
| 472 | I was talking to someone and there was a situation where like I knew something before something | 我和某人说话时 遇到一种情况 就像我知道一些事之前 |
| 473 | else happened. | 还发生了其他事 |
| 474 | 我告诉他,他就像, 啊, que bueno que lo supieras。 | |
| 475 | And I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. | 我当时想,等一下,等一下,等一下。 |
| 476 | 你为什么说supieras? | |
| 477 | Porque si lo supe. | 猪肉酱 |
| 478 | Like I did know. | 就像我知道的那样 |
| 479 | So why did you use this tense that gives this sense of like uncertainty? | 那你为什么用这种紧张 给人这种不确定的感觉? |
| 480 | Like que bueno que lo supieras. | 比如说 苏皮埃拉 |
| 481 | And he sat there silently for a second and was like. | 他静静地坐在那里一秒钟,就像。 |
| 482 | 他对我说,波克,没有supieras, 没有hubiera sido bueno, entonces que bueno。 | |
| 483 | que lo supieras. | 苏皮耶拉 |
| 484 | And that for me was like my mind blown in that moment. | 对我来说就像那一刻我的思想被吹了 |
| 485 | So I find that extremely interesting. | 所以我觉得这非常有趣。 |
| 486 | But to kind of wrap up this point, this notebook is how I mastered this adjunctive. | 但为了结束这一点, 这个笔记本是我如何掌握这个形容词的。 |
| 487 | This notebook is like what allowed me to let my curiosity run wild with Spanish and to | 这本笔记本让我对西班牙语的好奇心大发 |
| 488 | continue to have a hunger for knowledge about the language and to say like, oh, well, if | 继续渴望了解语言 并说,哦,好吧,如果 |
| 489 | I can't say this, how would I, you know? | 我不能说,我怎么会,你知道吗? |
| 490 | And so every little curiosity I had, I found a way to satisfy that curiosity by gaining | 所以,我每一点点的好奇心, 我找到一个方法满足这种好奇心 通过获得 |
| 491 | the knowledge, by asking someone, by looking it up, whatever the case may be. | 知识,通过问一个人, 通过调查它,不管案件是什么。 |
| 492 | And that's what allowed me to really like expand my Spanish really, really far and become | 所以我才喜欢扩展我的西班牙语 真正,真正远,并成为 |
| 493 | really, really fluent. | 真的很,真的很流利。 |
| 494 | So that's the second thing that I did. | 因此,这是我做的第二件事。 |
| 495 | And the third thing is specific accent training. | 第三件事是具体的口音训练。 |
| 496 | So as I mentioned, I did work with an accent coach in Spanish. | 所以,正如我所提到的,我确实与一个西班牙语的口音教练一起工作。 |
| 497 | Even before working with him, though, I always tried to train my accent because it was always | 在和他合作之前,我总是试着训练我的口音,因为它总是 |
| 498 | my goal to sound as much like a native speaker as I could. | 我的目标是尽可能像一个本地人说话 |
| 499 | So I was, you know, putting in the effort of doing shadowing. | 所以我,你知道, 努力做影子。 |
| 500 | I would like record my voice and like listen to a clip from a native speaker and kind of, | 我想录下我的声音 并想听一个土著演讲的片段 |
| 501 | you know, put on headphones and try to say the same thing at the same time as the native | 戴上耳机 试着和本地人说话 |
| 502 | speaker and then do like audio comparison, like all of these things and watching people's | 扬声器,然后做 音频比较, 像所有这些事情和观看人们的 |
| 503 | mouths to make sure that my mouth was moving in the same way. | 嘴来保证我的嘴 以同样的方式移动。 |
| 504 | And then eventually I did find an accent coach for Spanish and so I took a course with him. | 最后我找到了西班牙语的口音教练 所以我和他一起上了一个课程 |
| 505 | So all of this was like, you know, the actual effort that I put into making sure that my | 所以这一切就像,你知道, 我付出的实际努力 确保我的 |
| 506 | accent was as good as possible. | 口音尽可能好 |
| 507 | Because again, what have we learned in this video? | 再说一遍,我们在这段视频里学到了什么? |
| 508 | None of this happens just by accident. | 这一切都不是偶然发生的。 |
| 509 | You have to make an effort. | 你必须努力 |
| 510 | And making an effort is super worth it to me because like I love when I meet new people | 努力对我来说是值得的 因为我喜欢遇到新人 |
| 511 | here and they are very surprised by the way that I talk. | 他们很惊讶我说话的方式 |
| 512 | They're like, oh my God, like you use all the local slang, you know, your accent is | 他们就像,哦,我的上帝, 就像你用所有的当地口音, 你知道,你的口音是 |
| 513 | so good. | 这么好 |
| 514 | 我曾经有人对我说,哇, as como hablar con una Mexicana más。 | |
| 515 | And it's not that like my goal is to sound like someone I'm not, but it's like when I | 我的目标不是听起来像我不是一个人,而是当我 |
| 516 | feel that way to them, like when their experience of talking to me feels like talking to just | 感觉这样对他们, 就像当他们的经验 跟我说话 感觉像说话 |
| 517 | someone else that they would meet and not a foreigner, then that means this like foreign | 别人,他们会遇到,而不是一个外国人, 那么这意味着这像外国 |
| 518 | part of my identity doesn't have to be like at the forefront of every single conversation | 我的一部分身份 不必像每一次谈话一样 |
| 519 | that I have. | 我有过 |
| 520 | Hopefully that makes sense. | 希望这有道理。 |
| 521 | Obviously some people are not really too concerned with their pronunciation, but I always was | 显然有些人不太关心他们的发音,但我总是 |
| 522 | and it's kind of for that reason. | 也是因为这个原因 |
| 523 | Like now that I'm on the other side of it and have good pronunciation and people can | 就像现在我站在另一边 并有很好的发音和人们可以 |
| 524 | hear that, I get to have those experiences and I can see like why it's valuable, why | 听着,我得到了这些经历 我能理解为什么它的价值,为什么 |
| 525 | it was always valuable to me. | 对我来说总是很值钱的 |
| 526 | So in conclusion, immersion alone is not enough because we have seen that there are people | 因此,最后,光是沉浸是不够的,因为我们已经看到有人 |
| 527 | who live for 20 plus years in another country without learning language at all, or you know, | 在另一个国家生活了20多年 完全没有学习语言,或者你知道, |
| 528 | as we said, it's a spectrum. | 正如我们所说,这是一个光谱。 |
| 529 | So like without learning it at all, or maybe they have, but not very much improvement or | 所以,像没有学习它, 或也许他们有, 但不是很改善或 |
| 530 | whatever. | 随便吧 |
| 531 | And we all kind of buy into this cultural myth that immersion is like this key that's | 我们都相信这个文化神话 浸泡就像这把钥匙 |
| 532 | going to unlock fluency and going to allow you to skip steps of learning and arrive at | 将解开流利 并允许你跳过步骤 学习到达 |
| 533 | fluency. | 流畅. |
| 534 | And we know now that that's not true. | 我们现在知道这不是真的。 |
| 535 | And if you're ever wondering why this might be happening to you, if you live in the country | 如果你想知道你为什么会这样 如果你住在这个国家 |
| 536 | where they speak the language you are learning and you're like, okay, well I'm living here | 他们讲的语言 你学的,你喜欢, 好吧,我住在这里 |
| 537 | now. | 现在 |
| 538 | This is like the maximum level of language learning at this point. | 这就像目前语言学习的最高水平. |
| 539 | That's how we tend to see it, right? | 这就是我们如何看它,对不对? |
| 540 | Like the final frontier of language learning. | 如语言学最后的前沿. |
| 541 | But it's like, okay, well I'm here now. | 但就像,好吧,我现在在这里。 |
| 542 | Why am I not improving? | 为什么我没有改进? |
| 543 | It's because as I said, effort is still required. | 这是因为正如我所说,仍然需要努力。 |
| 544 | But if you can adopt these things that I have mentioned, both the three tips that I gave | 但是,如果你能采纳这些事情 我已经提到, 两个我给出的三提示 |
| 545 | and like the three specific things that I did when I moved to Mexico, one of them requires | 就像我搬去墨西哥时所做的三件事一样 其中一件要求 |
| 546 | you to learn before you move. | 在你动之前先学着点 |
| 547 | But anyway, if you do the things that I talk about in this video, then that's going to | 但无论如何,如果你做 我谈论的东西 在这视频,然后,那会 |
| 548 | allow you to use this immersion, the immersion that you're in and actually get the benefit | 允许你使用这个浸泡, 你身处的浸泡 并且实际上得到好处 |
| 549 | from it and like supercharge your language abilities and become extremely fluent as I | 从它和像超级充电 你的语言能力 变得非常流利,像我一样 |
| 550 | feel like I have done with Spanish. | 感觉就像我用西班牙语做的一样 |
| 551 | So thank you so much for watching. | 所以,非常感谢你的观看。 |
| 552 | If you want to learn more about how I can help you specifically with the phonetics and | 如果你想多了解我怎样才能帮助你 具体地讲那些话和 |
| 553 | pronunciation aspect, you can go to phoneticfluency.com to learn more about what it is that I do. | (笑声) 发音方面,你可以去听电话fluency.com 了解我的工作。 |
| 554 | Either way, thank you so much for being here and I will see you in the next video. | 不管怎么样,谢谢你的到来 我会在下一个视频中看到你。 |
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