上议院英音天团！不反抗就不算性侵？贵族们激辩审判规则，句句得
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| 0:00 | Only half of 18 to 24-year-olds recognise that rape is still rape, even if the victim | 只有一半的18至24岁的人承认强奸仍然是强奸,即使受害者 |
| 0:05 | doesn't physically fight back, and that only 42% of that age group realise that a relationship | 并且只有42%的这个年龄段的人 意识到有一段关系 |
| 0:12 | or marriage doesn't mean assumed consent to sex, as against 87% of over 65. | 或婚姻并不意味着假定同意性行为,而65岁以上者的87%。 |
| 0:26 | His question on jury directions, Baroness Leavitt. | 他在陪审团指示上的问题 莱维特男爵夫人 |
| 0:30 | Calling the noble Baroness to ask a question, I'd just like to remind the House to exercise | 召尊贵的男爵夫人问一个问题,我只想提醒下议院锻炼 |
| 0:36 | our customary caution in refraining from references to ongoing investigations or court processes. | 我们一贯谨慎,避免提及正在进行的调查或法庭程序。 |
| 0:44 | My Lords, I beg leave to ask a question of which I've given private notice. | 大人们,我恳求你允许 问一个我私下通知过的问题 |
| 0:47 | The question is as follows. | 问题如下。 |
| 0:49 | To ask His Majesty's Government what assessment they have made of introducing mandatory jury | 问陛下政府,他们对引入强制性陪审团有何评价? |
| 0:54 | directions on harmful myths and stereotypes in trials for rape and serious sexual offences | 关于强奸和严重性犯罪审判中有害神话和定型观念的指导 |
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| 1 | Only half of 18 to 24-year-olds recognise that rape is still rape, even if the victim | 只有一半的18至24岁的人承认强奸仍然是强奸,即使受害者 |
| 2 | doesn't physically fight back, and that only 42% of that age group realise that a relationship | 并且只有42%的这个年龄段的人 意识到有一段关系 |
| 3 | or marriage doesn't mean assumed consent to sex, as against 87% of over 65. | 或婚姻并不意味着假定同意性行为,而65岁以上者的87%。 |
| 4 | His question on jury directions, Baroness Leavitt. | 他在陪审团指示上的问题 莱维特男爵夫人 |
| 5 | Calling the noble Baroness to ask a question, I'd just like to remind the House to exercise | 召尊贵的男爵夫人问一个问题,我只想提醒下议院锻炼 |
| 6 | our customary caution in refraining from references to ongoing investigations or court processes. | 我们一贯谨慎,避免提及正在进行的调查或法庭程序。 |
| 7 | My Lords, I beg leave to ask a question of which I've given private notice. | 大人们,我恳求你允许 问一个我私下通知过的问题 |
| 8 | The question is as follows. | 问题如下。 |
| 9 | To ask His Majesty's Government what assessment they have made of introducing mandatory jury | 问陛下政府,他们对引入强制性陪审团有何评价? |
| 10 | directions on harmful myths and stereotypes in trials for rape and serious sexual offences | 关于强奸和严重性犯罪审判中有害神话和定型观念的指导 |
| 11 | and the potential implications of this on confidence in the criminal justice system | 及其对刑事司法系统信心的潜在影响 |
| 12 | among victims and the public. | 受害者和公众。 |
| 13 | My Lords, independent judges already can and do give directions concerning rape myths, | 大人,独立法官们 已经能够并且确实对强奸神话做出指示了 |
| 14 | based on the specifics of each case. | 根据每个案件的具体情况。 |
| 15 | In the Courts and Tribunals Bill, we are taking action to stop rape myths being weaponised | 在法院和法庭法案中,我们正采取行动,制止强奸神话被武器化 |
| 16 | ensuring previous allegations of rape or compensation claim information cannot be unfairly used as evidence. | 确保以前的强奸指控或索赔资料不能被不公平地用作证据。 |
| 17 | And we will consider my noble friend Lady Leavitt's amendments to the Bill on this issue, | 我们将考虑我高贵的朋友莱维特夫人 对该法案的修改 |
| 18 | which will be debated next week. | 下周将对此进行辩论。 |
| 19 | My Lords, Russell Brown has just been sentenced to 10 and a half years imprisonment. | 大人,罗素·布朗刚刚被判处10年半监禁 |
| 20 | Irrespective of the accuracy of every detail reported from the trial, | 不论审判报告的所有细节是否准确 |
| 21 | the reports themselves have caused considerable distress to victims | 报告本身对受害者造成了相当大的痛苦。 |
| 22 | and grave concern amongst those who support them. | 并严重关切那些支持他们的人。 |
| 23 | And I welcome the Prime Minister's recognition of that harm. | 我欢迎总理承认这种伤害。 |
| 24 | Does my noble friend agree that whilst most judges follow best practice | 我的贵族朋友是否同意,虽然大多数法官都遵循最佳做法 |
| 25 | by directing juries about harmful myths and stereotypes, | 通过指导陪审团 关于有害的神话和定型观念, |
| 26 | the fact that some do not means that it is now time for Parliament to require that such a direction must be given | 一些人并不表示现在应该由议会要求给予这种指导。 |
| 27 | and given before any evidence is heard, not just at the end of the trial, | 在听取任何证据之前 不只是在审判结束时 |
| 28 | when the damage may already have been done? | 当损害可能已经发生时? |
| 29 | My Lords, your Lordships won't expect me to comment on the Russell Brown case. | 大人们,大人们不会指望我 评论罗素布朗的案子 |
| 30 | Except to say this, I pay tribute to the courage of the victims in seeing this case brought to justice. | 除了这样说之外,我赞扬受害者有勇气将此案绳之以法。 |
| 31 | On the wider question that my noble friend asks me, | 关于我高贵的朋友问我的这个大问题 |
| 32 | judges give a tailored direction to assist the jury where they deem it is necessary, | 法官在他们认为有必要时提供有针对性的指导以协助陪审团, |
| 33 | based on the specifics of each case. | 根据每个案件的具体情况。 |
| 34 | The primary source of guidance, as she knows, is the Judicial College's Crown Court Compendium, | 她知道,指导的主要来源是司法学院的《刑事法院简编》, |
| 35 | which gives examples where guidance may be necessary. | 其中列举了可能需要指导的实例。 |
| 36 | All judges who hear sexual offences in the court receive specific training through RASA ticketing. | 所有在法院审理性犯罪的法官都通过RASA的罚单接受具体培训。 |
| 37 | But the specific issue that my noble friend raises in her follow-up | 但我的贵族朋友在后续中 提出的具体问题 |
| 38 | is exactly the issue we will be debating in relation to her amendment. | 这正是我们将就其修正案进行辩论的问题。 |
| 39 | Could I ask the Minister, does he consider that Parliament's imposition of mandatory jury directions | 我可以问部长,他是否认为 议会强制 陪审团指示 |
| 40 | would ever be an appropriate intrusion into the exercise of independent judicial discretion? | 是否构成对行使独立司法酌处权的适当干涉? |
| 41 | The Government, of course, supports the exercise of independent judicial discretion. | 当然,政府支持行使独立的司法酌处权。 |
| 42 | We are, as the noble Lord knows, in the Courts and Tribunals Bill, | 正如贵族所知,我们在法院和法庭法案中, |
| 43 | taking measures to ensure that evidence that it should be inadmissible is inadmissible | 采取措施确保不予受理的证据不予受理; |
| 44 | in relation to previous sexual behaviour, | 与以前的性行为有关, |
| 45 | and indeed our approach to the relevance of previous domestic abuse convictions. | 以及我们对于以前对家庭虐待定罪的相关性的态度。 |
| 46 | But of course, judicial independence is absolutely essential to the rule of law. | 当然,司法独立对法治是绝对必要的。 |
| 47 | Worryingly and counter-intuitively, young people seem unduly susceptible to rape myths. | 令人忧虑和反感的是,年轻人似乎不适当地容易被强奸。 |
| 48 | The group End Violence Against Women found, for example, that only half of 18- to 24-year-olds | 例如,消除暴力侵害妇女行为小组发现,18至24岁年龄组中只有一半人。 |
| 49 | recognise that rape is still rape, even if the victim does not physically fight back, | 承认强奸仍然是强奸,即使受害者没有进行身体反击, |
| 50 | and that only 42% of that age group realise that a relationship or marriage | 并且只有42%的这一年龄组人意识到某种关系或婚姻 |
| 51 | does not mean assumed consent to sex as against 87% of over 65s. | 这并不意味着假定同意性行为,而65岁以上者中有87%同意性行为。 |
| 52 | So does this not underline not only the need for clear directions to jurors, | 因此,这不仅仅是强调 需要明确的方向 陪审员, |
| 53 | with which I fully agree, but also the need for more and better sex and relationship education in school? | 我完全同意这一点,但也认为有必要在学校进行更多和更好的性和关系教育? |
| 54 | Yes, it does. | 没错 |
| 55 | I think that the point that the noble Lord makes about the attitudes of young people | 我认为,尊贵的上帝对年轻人的态度的看法 |
| 56 | are well known and deeply concerning, and they certainly do need to be addressed through rape, | 众所周知,而且对此深感忧虑,当然需要通过强奸加以解决, |
| 57 | through relationship and sex education, but it is not just young people. | 但不只是年轻人。 |
| 58 | And I would make the fairly obvious point that we're particularly concerned about how some of | 我想说一个相当明显的观点 我们特别关心的是... |
| 59 | that is being addressed, and that is why the work we've done in the Online Safety Act, | 因此我们在《网上安全法》中所做的工作 |
| 60 | which is ongoing, will continue. | 这项工作正在进行中,将继续进行。 |
| 61 | This is an extremely important area of work, | 这是一个极为重要的工作领域, |
| 62 | and what the noble Lord is drawing our attention to is that it's not simply a matter of the law, | 尊贵的领主正提请我们注意 不仅仅是法律的问题 |
| 63 | it's a matter of wider attitudes and society among young people, | 这是在年轻人中更广泛的态度和社会的问题, |
| 64 | and we need to address that on a very broad front. | 我们需要从一个非常广泛的方面来处理这个问题。 |
| 65 | Would the noble Lord, the Minister, agree with me, at least in respect of the following short | 尊贵的领主,大臣,是否同意我的意见,至少就以下短文而言: |
| 66 | propositions? | 提议? |
| 67 | The first is that the Court of Appeal has now for almost two decades | 第一,上诉法院近20年来一直 |
| 68 | been giving judgments about rape myths and encouraging judges to give directions in | 曾就强奸神话做出判决,并鼓励法官指导 |
| 69 | appropriate cases. | 适当案例。 |
| 70 | Secondly, that it would be a very good idea, before this matter is debated | 第二,在辩论此事之前,这是一个很好的想法。 |
| 71 | later in committee, for everybody to read the Crown Court Compendium dealing with this topic. | 在后来的委员会里,让每个人阅读《刑事法院简编》,讨论这个问题。 |
| 72 | It's comprehensive, detailed and instructive. | 内容全面,详细,具有启发性. |
| 73 | And thirdly, picking up the point of the noble | 第三,举起贵族的重心 |
| 74 | and learned Lord, Lord Keane, would the noble Lord, the Minister, agree that it is unprecedented | 并且学习了主,主基恩, 贵族主,部长,会同意 这是前所未有的 |
| 75 | for Parliament to seek to instruct judges on how they should direct juries, as opposed | 要求议会设法指导法官如何指导陪审团,而不是 |
| 76 | to laying down the substantive law, and that to do so would be an unacceptable intrusion | * 制定实体法,这样做将构成不可接受的侵犯 |
| 77 | upon judicial independence? | 司法独立? |
| 78 | I thank the noble and learned Lord for that question, | 我感谢尊贵和博学的上帝, |
| 79 | and as he says, we will be debating it next week. | 正如他说的,我们将在下周辩论这个问题。 |
| 80 | But the principles he sets out are, of course, | 但他提出的原则当然是 |
| 81 | the right ones, and I agree with him. | 我同意他的观点 |
| 82 | I've actually read the Judicial College's Crown | 其实我读过法学院的皇冠 |
| 83 | Court Compendium on this subject, and I commend it to people where the guidance may be necessary. | 关于这一主题的《法院简编》,我向可能需要指导的人推荐。 |
| 84 | But I don't want to jump the gun on this. | 但我不想用枪 |
| 85 | We're going to debate it in relation | 我们讨论一下关系 |
| 86 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}但是他提出的原则 | |
| 87 | seem to be entirely responsible and central. | 似乎完全负责,而且具有核心意义。 |
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