上议院英音天团！失业问题大辩论，句句扎心句句得体，贵族口音，
字幕摘录
| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
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| 0:04 | I make no apology for holding the government to account on the issue of employment. | 我并不为要求政府 负责就业问题而道歉。 |
| 0:10 | Having | 拥有 |
| 0:11 | been brought up in Liverpool, having been a Merseyside MP for 21 years, I've seen | 在利物浦长大, 曾经是默西赛德议员 21年,我见过 |
| 0:18 | the damage that can be done by depriving people of the dignity of work. | 剥夺人们工作尊严可能造成的损害。 |
| 0:24 | Now we have unemployment | 现在我们失业了 |
| 0:26 | rising towards two million. | 涨到200万 |
| 0:30 | In my 50 years in parliament, every Labour government has | 在我50年的议会里 每个工党政府都有 |
| 0:34 | left office with unemployment higher than when they took office. | 失业人数比上任时高。 |
| 0:40 | When will this government | 这个政府什么时候可以 |
| 0:41 | realise that you cannot tax and regulate businesses into growth? | 知道你不能对企业进行税收和监管 成长? |
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| 1 | I make no apology for holding the government to account on the issue of employment. | 我并不为要求政府 负责就业问题而道歉。 |
| 2 | Having | 拥有 |
| 3 | been brought up in Liverpool, having been a Merseyside MP for 21 years, I've seen | 在利物浦长大, 曾经是默西赛德议员 21年,我见过 |
| 4 | the damage that can be done by depriving people of the dignity of work. | 剥夺人们工作尊严可能造成的损害。 |
| 5 | Now we have unemployment | 现在我们失业了 |
| 6 | rising towards two million. | 涨到200万 |
| 7 | In my 50 years in parliament, every Labour government has | 在我50年的议会里 每个工党政府都有 |
| 8 | left office with unemployment higher than when they took office. | 失业人数比上任时高。 |
| 9 | When will this government | 这个政府什么时候可以 |
| 10 | realise that you cannot tax and regulate businesses into growth? | 知道你不能对企业进行税收和监管 成长? |
| 11 | Well, my Lords, I share the noble Lord's sentiment about the importance of the dignity | 各位大人,我赞同尊者对尊严重要性的看法 |
| 12 | of work, but I would say that unemployment is a long-term trend both here and across | 但是我要说,失业是长期的趋势,无论是在这里还是在整个工作中都是如此。 |
| 13 | the G7, and it's been rising indeed since 2023. | 从2023年起它就一直在上升 |
| 14 | The good news is, however, that the | 不过,好消息是, |
| 15 | number of people who are economically inactive has fallen by nearly half a million because | 从事经济活动的人数减少了近50万,原因是: |
| 16 | more people are actively looking for work. | 更多人积极寻找工作。 |
| 17 | Indeed, last year employment grew by more | 事实上,去年就业人数增加了 |
| 18 | than half a million, which is nearly twice as much as the rise in unemployment. | 50万以上,是失业率上升的近两倍。 |
| 19 | He asked | 他问 |
| 20 | what we will do about it, and the answer's clear. | 我们会怎么做,答案是明确的。 |
| 21 | The government's taking action on | 政府正在采取行动 |
| 22 | people who are neither earning nor learning, which the last government ignored. | 那些既不赚钱也不学习的人 上届政府对此视而不见 |
| 23 | The government's | 政府 |
| 24 | taking action on long-term sickness, which under the last government reached a record | 对长期疾病采取行动,在上届政府治下,这种疾病达到了创纪录的状态; |
| 25 | high. | 高点 |
| 26 | The government's seen a pay rise more since it was elected than it did in the first | 自从当选以来,政府看到的工资上涨 超过第一次 |
| 27 | 10 years of the previous administration, helping to tackle the cost of living. | 前政府执政10年,帮助解决生活费用问题。 |
| 28 | We are going | 我们要走了 |
| 29 | to solve the problems we inherited, my Lords, and we're doing something about it. | 解决我们继承的问题 大人 我们正在做一些事情 |
| 30 | My Lords, can the Minister elaborate on what assessment has been made of the number and | 阁下,部长能否详细说明对人数和数量所作的评估。 |
| 31 | type of jobs most impacted by AI-driven automation? | 受AI驱动自动化影响最大的工作类型? |
| 32 | My Lords, we're working across government to monitor the impact of AI and support job | 大人,我们跨政府 监督AI的影响,支持工作 |
| 33 | creation, providing skills trained for those facing disruption. | 为那些面临混乱的人提供训练有素的技能。 |
| 34 | Indeed, just last week | 确实,就在上周 |
| 35 | the technology secretary announced that every adult in the UK is eligible to take free courses | 技术秘书宣布,联合王国的每个成年人都有资格参加免费课程。 |
| 36 | to gain practical AI skills for work and to target and upskill about 10 million employees. | 获得实用的人工智能工作技能,并瞄准和提升大约1 000万雇员。 |
| 37 | It's undoubtedly the case that AI will transform the world of work, but the government's | 无疑,AI会改变工作世界,但政府 |
| 38 | taking action by establishing the AI and Future Work Unit in Deeset to ensure this transformation | * 采取行动,在迪塞特设立大赦国际和未来工作股,以确保这种转变; |
| 39 | boosts productivity and opportunities rather than deepening inequalities. | 提高生产力和机会,而不是加深不平等。 |
| 40 | My Lords, I love the optimism from the noble Lord, the Minister. | 大人们,我喜欢贵族大人,大臣的乐观 |
| 41 | Could the noble Lord, | 尊贵的主, |
| 42 | say what distortion there is on the employment figures by jobs which are not real jobs, zero | 说明就业数字被什么扭曲 工作不是真正的工作,零 |
| 43 | hour jobs, where people do not know whether they have a job tomorrow, next week or next | 小时工作,人们不知道 他们有工作明天,下周或下周 |
| 44 | month? | 一个月? |
| 45 | There are so many people who see doing now counted in the Minister's assessment | 有这么多人看到 做现在 部长的评估 |
| 46 | of jobs which are not fully employed. | 未充分就业的工作。 |
| 47 | Could the Minister say if the Government have any | 部长能否说,如果政府有任何 |
| 48 | actions it is going to do to turn those negligible jobs into real jobs? | 将那些微不足道的工作变成真正的工作? |
| 49 | I am, of course, very much a glass-half-full type of person, but I would say to the noble | 当然,我是一个非常 玻璃半满型的人, 但我会说贵族 |
| 50 | Lord that this is very much one of the core parts of the reform that the Government put | 这是政府提出的改革的核心部分之一 |
| 51 | through in the Employment Rights Act to ensure that zero-hours contracts do not drive standards | 通过《就业权利法》确保零小时合同不推动标准 |
| 52 | to the bottom. | 到底处。 |
| 53 | We are about rewarding good employers and ensuring that they are not undercut | 我们要奖励优秀的雇主,确保他们不被贬低 |
| 54 | by bad employers through mechanisms such as zero-hours contracts. | 由不良雇主通过零小时合同等机制实施。 |
| 55 | My Lords, the last Labour Government in which I was a Minister made huge strides in reducing | 大王们,我担任部长的最后一个工党政府在削减方面迈出了巨大的步伐 |
| 56 | long-term youth unemployment. | 青年长期失业。 |
| 57 | Tragically, we are in a situation now where we have a | 可悲的是,我们现在的处境是 |
| 58 | million young people not in education, training or work. | 数百万没有接受教育、培训或工作的年轻人。 |
| 59 | If there is one thing a Labour Government | 如果有一件事是工党政府 |
| 60 | should be about, it is opening up opportunities and providing jobs for young people. | 应该是,它正在为年轻人创造机会和工作机会。 |
| 61 | This | 这个 |
| 62 | should be the Government's number one priority and it should be talking about it every single | 应该是政府的首要任务 它应该谈论每一个问题 |
| 63 | day of the week. | 一周的一天 时间 |
| 64 | Can the Minister update the House on what the Government are doing to | 部长能否向众议院通报政府正在采取什么行动? |
| 65 | massively expand the number of public sector apprenticeships, set an example to the rest | 大规模扩大公共部门学徒人数,为其他学员树立了榜样; |
| 66 | of two employers in other sectors and ensure that companies and organisations which benefit | 确保受益的公司和组织 |
| 67 | from public sector procurement are massively increasing the number of apprenticeships they | 公共部门采购的学徒人数大幅增加 |
| 68 | provide as well? | 也提供? |
| 69 | I completely agree with the noble Lords' assessment about the importance of tackling | 我完全同意贵族们关于解决 |
| 70 | youth unemployment. | 青年失业。 |
| 71 | Indeed, we have set a bold new target of two-thirds of young people | 事实上,我们为三分之二的年轻人确定了大胆的新目标。 |
| 72 | participating in higher-level learning, whether academic, technical or on apprenticeship, | 参加高等教育,无论是学术、技术还是学徒, |
| 73 | by the age of 20 to 25. | 20至25岁。 |
| 74 | Indeed, as you heard from my noble friend Baroness Smith of Malvern | 事实上,正如你从我的贵族朋友 马尔文的史密斯男爵夫人那里听到的 |
| 75 | just earlier, we have a youth guarantee and we have Alan Milburn leading an investigation | 刚才 我们有青年保障 艾伦·米尔本负责调查 |
| 76 | into the cause of the needs, to tackle needs. | 满足需求。 |
| 77 | He is working at pace. | 他正在以速度工作。 |
| 78 | There will be an interim | 将会有一个临时 |
| 79 | report in the spring and a report for recommendations in the summer. | 春季报告,夏季报告建议。 |
| 80 | We are taking this very seriously | 我们对此很认真 |
| 81 | and we will act on it. | 我们将就此采取行动。 |
| 82 | My Lords— | 大人们... |
| 83 | My Lords, we have not heard from the Labour Benches yet. | 大人们,我们还没有从劳工法官那里听说 |
| 84 | No, we have not. | 不,我们没有。 |
| 85 | No, he has not. | 不,他没有。 |
| 86 | I am sorry. | 对不起。 |
| 87 | The Labour Benches are next. | 下一位是劳工法官。 |
| 88 | Lord Austin is a non-affidavitated member of this | 奥斯汀勋爵是这个组织的成员 |
| 89 | House. | 楼. |
| 90 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 91 | Following the previous question, which I think set out a strategy for dealing | 在前一个问题之后,我认为这个问题提出了处理战略。 |
| 92 | with youth unemployment, may I just remind people that it was under the free-market antics | 年轻人失业了,我想提醒大家, 这是在自由市场安乐死。 |
| 93 | that we have heard from just now from the Thatcher Government that actually decimated | 我们刚刚从撒切尔政府那里听说 撒切尔政府实际上摧毁了 |
| 94 | my constituency and many other constituencies and left them with record levels of unemployment? | 我的选区和许多其他选区, 给他们留下了创纪录的失业率? |
| 95 | Of course, I completely agree with my noble friend. | 当然,我完全同意我的崇高朋友。 |
| 96 | Just one illustration of that. | 只是一个例子。 |
| 97 | Under | 低于 |
| 98 | the last Government, long-term sickness became the most common reason people were economically | 长期疾病成为人们在经济上 |
| 99 | inactive for the first time, reaching a new record high of 2.8 million people. | 首次不活动,创下280万人新高. |
| 100 | This is | 这是 |
| 101 | a shameful record, my Lords, and it is not something that they should be preaching to | 这是可耻的记录,我的主啊!他们不该传教, |
| 102 | us on. | 我们继续 |
| 103 | My Lords, I am trying my best— | 大人们,我在尽力... |
| 104 | There will be plenty of time. | 会有充足的时间。 |
| 105 | The Conservative Government are next, then the Cross Benchers. | 接下来是保守党政府,然后是法官。 |
| 106 | Thank you very much, Chief Whip. | 非常感谢,威普酋长 |
| 107 | My Lords, I do my best in these questions not to give the Minister, particularly this Minister, | 大人,我尽力解决这些问题,不给部长,特别是部长, |
| 108 | a hard time. | 很难过 |
| 109 | However, in my capacity as chairman of Make UK, which has 26,000 manufacturing | 然而,我作为英国的董事长 拥有26000个制造业 |
| 110 | companies, we speak to a lot of employers. | 公司,我们跟很多雇主说话。 |
| 111 | They find that in the last year or so they | 他们发现在去年左右 |
| 112 | are faced with energy costs that are twice as much as their competitors in Europe. | 能源成本是欧洲竞争对手的两倍。 |
| 113 | Despite | 虽然 |
| 114 | the Government's announcement nearly a year ago of a reduction in these energy costs, | 将近一年前政府宣布减少这些能源成本, |
| 115 | they do not see anything happen. | 他们没有看到任何事情发生。 |
| 116 | Secondly, there is an increase in national insurance, | 第二,国家保险增加, |
| 117 | which is a big payroll tax. | 这是一笔大工资税。 |
| 118 | Thirdly, there is the bureaucracy and other things that come | 第三,还有官僚作风和其他事情 |
| 119 | out of the Employment Rights Act. | - 《就业权利法》。 |
| 120 | Given all this, how can the Government expect employers | 综上所述,政府如何期待雇主 |
| 121 | to employ more people? | 雇佣更多的人? |
| 122 | The noble Lord has raised a number of factors. | 尊者主举若干因缘. |
| 123 | I do not want to take up too much time for | 我不想占用太多时间 |
| 124 | the House going through them one by one. | 众院逐一通过他们。 |
| 125 | For example, I have already talked about the Employment | 比如说,我已经谈过了 |
| 126 | Rights Act, which is about benefiting millions and millions of employees. | 《权利法》,它使数以百万计的雇员受益。 |
| 127 | It is also clear | 也很明显 |
| 128 | that we are taking active measures on energy costs. | 我们正对能源成本采取积极措施。 |
| 129 | We are working with Sir Charlie Mayfield | 我们和查理・梅菲尔德爵士合作 |
| 130 | to tackle long-term, to ensure that people, when they get work, stay in work. | 解决长期问题,确保人们在找到工作时继续工作。 |
| 131 | Lots of | 许多 |
| 132 | employers are working with him. | 雇主正与他合作。 |
| 133 | He is working with over 120 businesses, which employ 5 million | 他与120多个企业合作,雇用了500万 |
| 134 | workers as part of the vanguard phase of his plan to ensure that we do not just get people | 作为他计划先锋阶段的一部分 确保我们不只获得人 |
| 135 | working, we keep them working. | 工作,我们让他们工作。 |
| 136 | So I understand the challenges that this Government face of | 因此,我理解本届政府面临的挑战: |
| 137 | fixing the mess that the previous Government made over the previous 14 years. | 解决前政府在过去14年中造成的混乱。 |
| 138 | You do not | 你没有 |
| 139 | undo 14 years of damage in merely 18 months. | 仅仅在18个月内就消除了14年的破坏。 |
| 140 | In view of the continuing high level of long-term unemployment, would the Government seriously | 鉴于长期失业率居高不下,政府是否将认真对待 |
| 141 | consider the TUC proposal for a national job guarantee with wage subsidy to employers for | 考虑土耳其工会委员会提出的向雇主提供工资补贴的国家工作保障提案,以便: |
| 142 | up to six months targeted at the most vulnerable areas? | 以最脆弱地区为目标的最长6个月? |
| 143 | Would it further consider the argument | 会不会进一步考虑这一论点? |
| 144 | that the TUC has made that such a job guarantee would largely pay for itself by increasing | TUC已经规定,这种工作保障将主要通过增加工资来支付。 |
| 145 | revenues and reducing the spending on welfare? | 收入和减少福利开支? |
| 146 | I thank the noble Lord for raising that interesting proposal. | 我感谢尊贵的上帝提出这一令人感兴趣的建议。 |
| 147 | I do not know the detail of it, | 我不知道细节 |
| 148 | so I would have to take it away. | 所以我不得不把它带走。 |
| 149 | But I would say that, of course, that is very much what | 但我会说,当然,这是非常 |
| 150 | we are doing with an element of our youth guarantee, as we heard earlier from my noble | 正如我们之前从我的贵族那里听到的那样,我们正在做我们青年保障的一部分。 |
| 151 | friend Minister Smith. | 朋友史密斯部长。 |
| 152 | This is about giving for young people a six-month guaranteed job | 这是为年轻人提供六个月有保障的工作 |
| 153 | for those who have been receiving universal credit and looking for work for more than | 获得普遍信贷和寻找工作的人 |
| 154 | 18 months. | 18个月。 |
| 155 | That is the kind of model that we are indeed trying out to tackle that particular | 这正是我们确实在努力解决这一特殊问题的模式。 |
| 156 | very hard-to-get-to and important-to-tackle part of unemployment. | 失业中最难解决和最难解决的部分 |
| 157 | My Lords, I am also a glass-half-full person, but in terms of what the noble Lord has said, | 大王们,我也是一个 半杯半杯的人, 但从贵族主的话来说, |
| 158 | there are two major reviews into the welfare system with a link to work. | 对福利制度进行了两次与工作挂钩的重大审查。 |
| 159 | They are due to | 其原因是 |
| 160 | report later this year at last, but their recommendations are likely to require primary | 今年晚些时候报告,但这些建议很可能要求: |
| 161 | legislation. | 立法。 |
| 162 | There seems to be a perfect storm of inaction or delay, with no decisions expected | 似乎出现了无所作为或拖延的完美风暴,预计不会作出任何决定 |
| 163 | to be taken on welfare this Parliament. | 由议会负责福利事务。 |
| 164 | So what is happening? | 发生了什么事? |
| 165 | Can the Minister tell us | 部长能否告诉我们 |
| 166 | what is actually happening on welfare? | 福利方面到底发生了什么? |
| 167 | I think to echo the words of my noble friend Minister Smith, all this is around reforming | 我想重复我高贵的朋友史密斯部长的话 所有这一切都围绕着改革 |
| 168 | the welfare and the way to get people into work more comprehensively. | 福利和使人们更全面地就业的方法。 |
| 169 | These are serious | 这些是严重的 |
| 170 | deep-seated issues that we must take time over, but as I have said, in terms of the | 深层次的问题我们必须占用时间,但正如我说过的,就 |
| 171 | Milburn Review, 是关于解决NEET的, | |
| 172 | think the House agrees – one of the most serious problems the country faces, the economy | 认为众议院同意 国家面临的最严重的问题之一 经济 |
| 173 | faces and young people face, he is working at pace to deliver on that. | 他正以速度努力实现这一目标。 |
| 174 | My Lords, I am also a glass-half-full person, but in terms of what the noble Lord has said, | 大王们,我也是一个 半杯半杯的人, 但从贵族主的话来说, |
| 175 | taken on welfare this Parliament. I think to echo the words of my noble friend Minister | 以福利为本议会。 我想重复我高贵的朋友大臣的话 |
| 176 | of my noble friend Minister Smith, all this is about tackling NEET, which is one of those | 我高贵的朋友史密斯部长, 所有这一切都是为了解决 NET, |
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