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| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:04 | I beg leave to ask the question standing in my name on the Order Paper. | 我恳求你离开 问一个以我的名义在命令文件中的问题 |
| 0:10 | The Government recognise the serious risks posed by substances marketed online that are | 政府认识到网上销售的药物构成的严重风险,这些物质包括: |
| 0:15 | unsafe for human consumption. | 人类消费不安全 |
| 0:17 | Under the Online Safety Act, platforms must take proactive | 根据《在线安全法》,平台必须积极主动 |
| 0:20 | steps to prevent and remove illegal content, including the promotion or sale of unlawful | 防止并消除非法内容的措施,包括宣传或出售非法内容 |
| 0:26 | substances and to tackle fraud. | 和对付欺诈。 |
| 0:28 | Where products fall within the definition of medicines, robust | 在产品属于药品定义范围内时,坚固 |
| 0:31 | controls apply to their sales, supply and advertising, and unauthorised products are | 管制适用于他们的销售、供应和广告,未经批准的产品是: |
| 0:36 | subject to enforcement action. | 须采取强制执行行动。 |
| 0:39 | I thank the Minister for her answer and accept that this is a cross-Government problem. | 我感谢部长的答复,并承认这是一个跨政府的问题。 |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
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| 1 | I beg leave to ask the question standing in my name on the Order Paper. | 我恳求你离开 问一个以我的名义在命令文件中的问题 |
| 2 | The Government recognise the serious risks posed by substances marketed online that are | 政府认识到网上销售的药物构成的严重风险,这些物质包括: |
| 3 | unsafe for human consumption. | 人类消费不安全 |
| 4 | Under the Online Safety Act, platforms must take proactive | 根据《在线安全法》,平台必须积极主动 |
| 5 | steps to prevent and remove illegal content, including the promotion or sale of unlawful | 防止并消除非法内容的措施,包括宣传或出售非法内容 |
| 6 | substances and to tackle fraud. | 和对付欺诈。 |
| 7 | Where products fall within the definition of medicines, robust | 在产品属于药品定义范围内时,坚固 |
| 8 | controls apply to their sales, supply and advertising, and unauthorised products are | 管制适用于他们的销售、供应和广告,未经批准的产品是: |
| 9 | subject to enforcement action. | 须采取强制执行行动。 |
| 10 | I thank the Minister for her answer and accept that this is a cross-Government problem. | 我感谢部长的答复,并承认这是一个跨政府的问题。 |
| 11 | The | 那个 |
| 12 | Department of Health might actually have just as easily have taken it. | 卫生部可能同样容易接受。 |
| 13 | Could the Government | 政府能否 |
| 14 | say what exactly they are going to do to make sure that influencers who are making money | 说他们到底要做什么 确保那些赚钱的势力 |
| 15 | out of saying, you will look better if you take certain drugs, are actually punished | 这么说吧,你如果服用某些药物 就会看起来更好,真的会受到惩罚 |
| 16 | for this, and if you can't get at them, will we be closing down the sites or platforms | 如果你们不能抓住他们 我们会关闭网站或平台 |
| 17 | upon which they are doing this marketing? | 他们正在做这个营销? |
| 18 | The Online Safety Act indeed has duties in respect of children, and platforms that provide | 《在线安全法》确实对儿童负有义务,并规定了 |
| 19 | services to children must ensure that harmful content is not provided. | 为儿童提供的服务必须确保不提供有害的内容。 |
| 20 | Ofcom's Children's | |
| 21 | Harms Guidance makes it clear that sponsored or influencer-promoted content can be in scope | 《指南》明确指出,赞助或影响者宣传的内容可以涵盖范围 |
| 22 | where it actively encourages children to consume harmful substances. | 积极鼓励儿童消费有害物质。 |
| 23 | Ofcom有相当数量 | |
| 24 | powers to monitor compliance with the Act, and Parliament has given it the ability to | 议会赋予其监测该法遵守情况的能力。 |
| 25 | take enforcement action, which I think everyone in this Chamber supports. | 采取执法行动,我认为本会议厅的每个人都支持这些行动。 |
| 26 | My Lords, may I raise a personal issue? | 大人,我可以提个私人问题吗? |
| 27 | For about three months now, I have been plagued | 大约三个月来,我一直被困扰 |
| 28 | by complaints from members of the public who have seen videos and digital images of myself | 透过公众的抱怨, |
| 29 | 在Instagram和Facebook上推广某些药物。 | |
| 30 | These medicines generally refer | 这些药物一般是指: |
| 31 | to erectile dysfunction and other issues with the prostate. | 与前列腺发生勃起功能障碍和其他问题。 |
| 32 | What can we do about this kind | 我们能怎么办呢? |
| 33 | of advertising, because people have been paying money for these completely dangerous remedies? | 广告,因为人们一直在支付钱 这些完全危险的补救办法? |
| 34 | My noble friend raises an important and serious point. | 我崇高的朋友提出了一个重要和严肃的观点。 |
| 35 | Fraud is illegal and a priority offence | 欺诈是非法的,是优先犯罪 |
| 36 | under the Online Safety Act, and platforms are required to act where services are used | 根据《在线安全法》,平台必须在使用服务的地方采取行动。 |
| 37 | for scams or misleading advertisements. | 骗局或误导性广告。 |
| 38 | It is at Ofcom's hands to ensure there is compliance | 由Ofcom负责确保遵守 |
| 39 | with the Act and the duties under it. | 法律及其规定的职责。 |
| 40 | We have made it very clear to Ofcom that we support | 我们向Ofcom明确表示,我们支持 |
| 41 | it taking that kind of enforcement action. | 它采取这种强制行动。 |
| 42 | My Lords, is the problem here not often one | 大人,这里的问题不常发生 |
| 43 | of classification? | 分类? |
| 44 | Selective androgen receptor modulators, or SAMs, which are so often the | 选择性和色素受体调制器,或SAMs,它们经常是: |
| 45 | physique-enhancing supplements to which the question refers, are classified as novel foods | 问题所指的增强体力补充剂被归类为新食品 |
| 46 | by the FSA. | (原始内容存档于2018-09-21). by FSA. |
| 47 | While they are not approved for human use, they cannot be marketed as dietary | 虽然它们不被批准用于人类用途,但不能作为饮食市场销售 |
| 48 | or medical supplements. | 或医疗补助。 |
| 49 | They can be sold online as research-use-only chemicals, which is how | 它们可在网上作为仅供研究使用的化学品出售。 |
| 50 | they get around the social media loophole. | 他们绕过社交媒体的漏洞 |
| 51 | Should the Government not be moving to classify | 如果政府不采取行动进行分类 |
| 52 | that legal loophole, which allows them to be sold online? | 法律漏洞, 允许他们在网上出售? |
| 53 | Substances that are illegal or that cause harm to children are indeed caught under the | 非法物质或对儿童造成损害的物质确实被困在 |
| 54 | Online Safety Act. | 网络安全法. |
| 55 | Where they are classified as medicines, that is caught by the MHRA under | 在被归类为药品的情况下,《人权法案》规定 |
| 56 | the Human Medicines Regulation. | 人类药品条例。 |
| 57 | What we are doing now in terms of online marketplaces | 我们现在在网络市场方面所做的 |
| 58 | and products that fall outside of medicines or food regimes, they must still be safe and | 以及不属于药品或食品制度范围的产品,它们仍然必须是安全的,而且 |
| 59 | comply with UK requirements. | 遵守联合王国的要求。 |
| 60 | The Office for Product Safety and Standards oversees that, | 产品安全和标准办公室负责监督: |
| 61 | and the Department for Business and Trade is currently consulting on changes using the | 商业和贸易部目前正在利用 |
| 62 | powers under the PRAM Act that is now in force to look at what more needs to be done to make | 目前生效的《PRAM法》规定的权力,以审查需要做哪些工作 |
| 63 | sure that online marketplaces are marketing safe products to UK consumers. | 确保网上市场向英国消费者推销安全产品。 |
| 64 | My Lords, I am very much on the same lines as our noble Lord, Lord Addington. | 大人们,我和我们的贵族阿丁顿勋爵一样 |
| 65 | Influences | 影响 |
| 66 | play a huge part. | 扮演一个巨大的角色。 |
| 67 | We have just seen the enhanced games on television. | 我们刚刚在电视上看到强化游戏。 |
| 68 | For anyone who was not | 对于任何没有 |
| 69 | aware of it, it is a sporting event where they pump the athletes for as many drugs as | 这是一场体育赛事 他们给运动员注射毒品 |
| 70 | possible so that they can win races. | 让他们赢得比赛 |
| 71 | Does the Minister have any plans with regard to | 部长是否计划: |
| 72 | how we will tackle this and how we will stop young people from buying things like testosterone | 我们如何解决这个问题,以及如何阻止年轻人购买睾丸酮之类的东西 |
| 73 | online with any prescriptions whatsoever? | 有任何处方吗? |
| 74 | The Government support clean competition and support. | 政府支持清洁竞争和支持。 |
| 75 | The Department for Culture, Media | 文化、媒体部 |
| 76 | and Sport supports UK anti-doping and UK support in their efforts to protect clean sport and | 体育部支持联合王国的反兴奋剂行动,支持联合王国努力保护清洁运动, |
| 77 | educate athletes on the risks of performance-enhancing drugs. | 对运动员进行提高性能药物风险的教育。 |
| 78 | The Online Safety Act covers situations | 《网上安全法》涵盖各种情况 |
| 79 | where products are illegal and marketed and it is for Ofcom to enforce that area. | 产品是非法和市场销售的,因此Ofcom公司必须强制实施。 |
| 80 | As I | 作为我 |
| 81 | mentioned earlier, in respect to the children's harms guidance, that also makes it clear that | 上文提到,关于儿童的伤害指导,这也表明: |
| 82 | sponsor or influencer-promoted content can be in scope where it actively encourages children | 在积极鼓励儿童的情况下,赞助者或影响者倡导的内容可以涵盖范围 |
| 83 | to consume harmful substances. | 消费有害物质。 |
| 84 | The BBC investigation found that these illegal substances are readily available from online | 英国广播公司的调查发现,这些非法物质很容易在网上获得。 |
| 85 | sellers based both in the UK and overseas, yet there is no systematic requirement for | 设在联合王国和海外的销售商,但没有系统要求 |
| 86 | platforms to know who is placing these advertisements, particularly of the kind that the noble Lord | 了解这些广告是谁登的平台,特别是尊贵的领主 |
| 87 | Winston referred to. | 温斯顿提到。 |
| 88 | Will the Government ensure that forthcoming work on online advertising | 政府是否会确保即将开展的网上广告工作 |
| 89 | standards includes a requirement for platforms to verify the identity of those placing advertisements | 标准包括要求平台核实刊登广告者的身份 |
| 90 | for health and physique-enhancing products so that enforcement bodies can identify and | 用于卫生和增强体能的产品,以便执法机构能够识别和 |
| 91 | pursue those responsible? | 追究责任人? |
| 92 | The noble Lord is right that, as an outcome of the Online Safety Act, it already covers | 尊贵的领主说得对,作为"网络安全法"的一项成果,它已经涵盖了 |
| 93 | illegal content and child safety duties. | 非法内容和儿童安全责任。 |
| 94 | Those duties are in force. | 这些职责已经生效。 |
| 95 | Ofcom现在转弯了 | |
| 96 | its focus to the additional duties for categorised services, which will include protections against | 其重点是对分类服务的额外责任,其中将包括防止 |
| 97 | fraudulent advertising. | 虚假广告。 |
| 98 | We are expecting Ofcom's consultation on the additional duties next | 我们期待Ofcom就下一步的额外职责进行磋商 |
| 99 | month, which should cover a number of the issues that the noble Lord raises. | 月,应涵盖贵族主提出的若干问题. |
| 100 | My Lords, to pick up on the point very well made by the noble Lady Lady Bull, sellers | 大王们,请记住 尊贵的公牛夫人 畅所欲言,卖家们 |
| 101 | of unapproved sans routinely use labels in their advertising, such as not for human consumption, | 在广告中经常使用标签,如非人类消费, |
| 102 | but while simultaneously promoting their physique-enhancing effects elsewhere on social media. | 同时也在社会媒体上推广其增强体能的效果。 |
| 103 | Since sophisticated | 自古以来 |
| 104 | AI advertising tools allow sellers to target consumers with almost perfect precision, these | AI广告工具允许销售者以几乎完美的精确度瞄准消费者,这些 |
| 105 | tricks are actually no less effective than openly advertising illegal product. | 诡计实际上不亚于公开宣传非法产品。 |
| 106 | Can the | 可以吗 |
| 107 | noble Lady, the Minister, tell us who is responsible for enforcing against this and what progress | 尊敬的女士,部长,告诉我们 谁负责执行这个 和什么进展 |
| 108 | they are making? | 他们正在制作? |
| 109 | Where there are claims for products that are sold for research purposes only, that does | 如果对仅为研究目的出售的产品提出索赔,则 |
| 110 | not prevent regulatory action where the available evidence suggests that they are in fact unauthorised | 如果现有证据表明管制行动事实上未经批准,则不得采取管制行动。 |
| 111 | medicines intended for human use. | 供人类使用的药品。 |
| 112 | If the product is classified as a medicine and is not appropriately | 如果产品被归类为药物,而且不合适 |
| 113 | authorised, the MHRA can take compliance and enforcement action. | 经授权,人力部可采取遵守和执行行动。 |
| 114 | My Lords, my noble friend the Minister has made a very good point about the importance | 大王们,我的贵族朋友 大臣已经说得很清楚 |
| 115 | 以及Ofcom的作用。 | |
| 116 | There are of course other enforcement | 当然还有其他的强制执行 |
| 117 | agencies which have a role in all of this. | 在所有这些工作中发挥作用的机构。 |
| 118 | The issue has been raised about advertising | 广告问题已经提出来 |
| 119 | standards and that has got to be looked at. | 标准,必须加以研究。 |
| 120 | But of course there is also enforcement by | 但当然还有强制措施 |
| 121 | trading standards. | 贸易标准。 |
| 122 | Could my noble friend the Minister tell us what discussions have taken | 我的贵族朋友部长能否告诉我们 讨论的结果 |
| 123 | place with our DBT about the powers and resources available to trading standards to take these | 将贸易标准可动用的权力和资源与DBT联系起来 |
| 124 | cases, which are often very complicated and against bodies with a great deal of financial | 这些案件往往非常复杂,而且涉及大量资金问题。 |
| 125 | power? | 权力? |
| 126 | My noble friend raises an important question. | 我的贵族朋友提出了一个重要问题。 |
| 127 | The landscape here includes action by law | 这里的风景包括法律行动 |
| 128 | enforcement agencies such as that under the Ford strategy. | 福特战略下的执法机构 |
| 129 | It involves the MHRA and it | 它涉及到人力与人力部 |
| 130 | involves Ofcom and indeed the ASA and trading standards. | 涉及Ofcom公司,事实上是ASA公司和贸易标准。 |
| 131 | These activities are co-ordinated | 这些活动得到协调。 |
| 132 | across government to make sure that there is effective action. | 政府各部门确保采取有效行动。 |
| 133 | In respect of specifically | 具体关于 |
| 134 | the resources available to trading standards, I will take that question back to the Department | 交易标准的资源,我会把问题 带回本部 |
| 135 | and come back to you. | 回到你身边 |
| 136 | My Lords, do we not need effective legislation and a regulator that will actually do the | 大人,我们不需要有效的立法 和监管者来做 |
| 137 | job? | 工作吗? |
| 138 | Which one is faring most, the regulator or the legislation? | 哪一个最活跃,监管者还是立法? |
| 139 | As we discussed a little earlier in the week in this House, there are advances made in | 正如我们本周早些时候在本大会堂讨论的那样,我们取得了一些进步。 |
| 140 | the regulation in terms of the measures we are bringing forward to restrict social media | 限制社交媒体的措施 |
| 141 | companies advertising or providing services to under-16s. | 公司向16岁以下者提供广告或服务。 |
| 142 | There are the consultations | 有协商 |
| 143 | I mentioned by the OPSS on product safety. | 业务支助处提到了产品安全。 |
| 144 | That goes hand in hand with the importance | 这与重要性密切相关 |
| 145 | of enforcement. | 执行。 |
| 146 | 关于Ofcom,国务卿致函Ofcom,强调 | |
| 147 | importance of that body enforcing effectively and prioritising and has requested an enforcement | 该机构有效执法的重要性和优先性,并请求执行 |
| 148 | strategy and framework to be available so that that can be scrutinised by Parliament. | * 制定战略和框架,以便议会对此加以审查。 |
| 149 | Third oral question, Lord Goodman of Wicke. | 第三个口头问题,威克的古德曼大人 |
| 150 | Third oral question, Lord Goodman of Wicke. Third oral question, Lord Goodman of Wicke. | 第三个口头问题,威克的古德曼大人 第三个口头问题,威克的古德曼大人 |
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