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《对话》下一个前沿不是人工智能,而是“人工社会” [C1]

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0:05你在听《对话》 2026年9月10日 Nick Jennings
0:11英国Loughborough大学副校长兼校长写道:
0:16The next frontier is not artificial intelligence, it's artificial societies.接下来的前沿不是人工智能,而是人工社会.
0:22There is a temptation to divide the future of AI into two possibilities, utopia or catastrophe.将AI的未来分为乌托邦或灾难两种可能性是一种诱惑.
0:29Neither extreme is particularly helpful.这两种极端都特别有用。
0:33The more interesting possibility is messier and requires a step shift in our thinking,更有趣的可能性是 更混乱 并且需要一步一步地改变我们的想法,
0:38from artificial intelligence to AI societies.从人工智能到人工智能
0:41When most people hear AI, they typically think of chat GPT,当大多数人听到AI, 他们通常想到聊天GPT,
0:46co-pilot or another conversational system.副驾驶或其他谈话系统
0:49You ask a question, that system generates an answer.你问一个问题, 这个系统产生一个答案。
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1你在听《对话》 2026年9月10日 Nick Jennings
2英国Loughborough大学副校长兼校长写道:
3The next frontier is not artificial intelligence, it's artificial societies.接下来的前沿不是人工智能,而是人工社会.
4There is a temptation to divide the future of AI into two possibilities, utopia or catastrophe.将AI的未来分为乌托邦或灾难两种可能性是一种诱惑.
5Neither extreme is particularly helpful.这两种极端都特别有用。
6The more interesting possibility is messier and requires a step shift in our thinking,更有趣的可能性是 更混乱 并且需要一步一步地改变我们的想法,
7from artificial intelligence to AI societies.从人工智能到人工智能
8When most people hear AI, they typically think of chat GPT,当大多数人听到AI, 他们通常想到聊天GPT,
9co-pilot or another conversational system.副驾驶或其他谈话系统
10You ask a question, that system generates an answer.你问一个问题, 这个系统产生一个答案。
11But AI is rapidly moving beyond this.但AI正在迅速超越这个范围.
12Systems can now monitor the world, make decisions, negotiate transactions系统现在可以监测世界、作出决定、谈判交易
13and carry out tasks over extended periods of time.并长期执行任务。
14AI is no longer just generating an answer, it is doing something about it.大赦国际不再只是提出一个答案,它正在做一些事情。
15That points to something much bigger than a better chat bot,这说明比更好的聊天机器人要大得多
16a world in which AI agents act on our behalf and increasingly interact with other AI agents.一个AI代理代表我们行事,并越来越多地与其他AI代理互动的世界.
17An agent perceives what is happening, decides what to do, then takes actions to achieve this goal.一个代理人能察觉到正在发生的事情,决定该怎么办,然后采取行动来实现这一目标。
18It might book a journey, monitor a supply chain,它可能预定一个旅程, 监测一个供应链,
19coordinate a team or manage a household's finances.协调团队或管理家庭财务。
20Now imagine not one agent, but millions of them.现在想象一下 不是一个特工 而是数百万个特工
21Your AI agent can negotiate a mortgage with your bank's agent,你的人工智能经纪人可以和你银行的经纪人谈抵押贷款
22schedule surgery with a hospital's agent安排医院的手术
23and rearrange your travel plans by dealing directly with the agents of airlines, hotels and insurers.与航空公司、旅馆和保险公司的代理人直接打交道,重新安排旅行计划。
24This future is much closer than it sounds and this should change the questions we are asking about AI.这一未来比听起来要近得多,这应该会改变我们所问的关于大赦国际的问题。
25Until now, the tendency has been to focus on how intelligent a single agent might become.直到现在,人们一直倾向于关注单一的毒剂的智能化程度。
26The more profound challenge is what happens when millions of them interact with one another at scale.更深刻的挑战是,当数百万人进行大规模互动时,会发生什么事。
27The intellectual foundations of today's AI systems were laid long before chat GPT.今日AI系统的知识基础早在聊天GPT之前就已经奠定.
28For decades, I and other researchers of multi-agent networks have studied how autonomous agents can cooperate,几十年来,我和多代理网络的其他研究人员 研究了自主代理如何合作,
29coordinate and negotiate when nobody has complete information and nobody controls everything.当没有人掌握完整的信息,也没有人控制一切时,协调和谈判。
30The earlier systems that emerged focused on how the distinct AI sub-areas of reasoning,早期出现的系统侧重于AI不同的子推理领域,
31planning and acting could be combined into an effective goal-oriented agentB. 规划和行动可以合并为一个面向目标的有效代理人
32and how tens of these agents could communicate and cooperate to solve a common objective.以及其中的数十名特工能够如何沟通与合作以解决一个共同目标。
33As these interactions became more complex and involved more agents,随着这些互动变得更加复杂和涉及更多的代理人,
34there was a shift from cooperation between agents that all belonged to a single organization各机构之间的合作发生了转变,它们都属于一个组织。
35to agents with different owners and sometimes competing aims.给有不同主人的代理人,有时还有相互竞争的目的。
36This focused attention on building algorithms that could form agent teams, automate negotiation这让注意力集中在构建可以组成代理团队的算法,自动谈判
37and determine agent trustworthiness.并且确定代理人的可信度。
38Today, the pieces needed to build large-scale multi-agent AI systems are falling into place.今天,建设大规模多代理AI系统所需的棋子正在落地.
39Modern AI agents can call software tools, access information, write and execute code,现代AI代理可以调用软件工具,访问信息,写和执行代码,
40communicate with other systems and operate for extended periods.与其他系统通信并长期运作。
41Consider a supply chain.考虑一个供应链。
42One AI agent could represent a manufacturer trying to secure components,一个人工智能代理可以代表一个制造商试图保护部件,
43another a supplier trying to maximize its revenue.另一个供应商试图最大限度地增加收入。
44Yet more could manage transport, inventory and warehouses.然而,还可以管理更多的运输、库存和仓库。
45Each agent might be doing exactly what it is designed to do.每位特工可能都在做自己要做的事
46But the important question is whether the system they create behaves sensibly.但重要的问题是,他们创造的系统是否明智。
47This shift offers enormous potential benefits but also increases the risks.这种转变带来了巨大的潜在好处,但也增加了风险。
48在最近涉及OpenAI和技术平台Hugging Face的实验中,
49thousands of collaborating agents exchanged tens of thousands of messages数千名合作人员交换了数万条信息
50and were able to get around the deliberately weakened security controls designed to contain them.并得以绕过蓄意削弱的旨在控制这些装置的安全控制。
51The details of one experiment matter less than the broader warning.一个实验的细节比更广泛的警告要少。
52When AI systems interact, the behavior of the collective can be harder to predict当AI系统相互作用时,集体的行为可能更难预测
53than the behavior of any individual system.而不是任何个体系统的行为。
54That should make us cautious but not cause us to down tools.这应当使我们谨慎,但不会使我们放弃工具。
55Instead, we need to shift our mindset from building intelligent machines相反,我们需要转变我们的心态 从建设智能机器
56to building intelligent societies.建立智慧社会
57Once agents can cooperate, compete and resolve conflicts with one another,一旦特工可以合作 互相竞争和解决冲突
58we are no longer dealing with isolated machines, we are dealing with a society.我们不再处理孤立的机器, 我们处理一个社会。
59Thus, the next frontier is not artificial intelligence, it is artificial societies.因此,下一个前沿不是人工智能,而是人工社会.
60We already know that intelligence alone does not make a society work.我们已经知道,光靠智慧不能使社会发挥作用。
61Human societies depend on rules, institutions, incentives, norms and mechanisms人类社会依赖规则、体制、奖励措施、规范和机制
62for resolving disagreements.解决分歧。
63AI societies will need their equivalents.AI社会需要它们的同等条件。
64Who is responsible when two agents make a bad decision?当两个特工做出错误的决定时,谁负责呢?
65What happens when the interests of different agents conflict?不同代理人的利益发生冲突时会怎样?
66Who sets the rules?谁制定规则?
67And who has the power to change them?谁能改变它们?
68These are not just technical issues.这些不仅仅是技术问题。
69They are questions about economics, law, politics and society.它们涉及经济、法律、政治和社会。
70They also point to an important role for humans.它们还指出了人类的重要作用。
71The most useful future is unlikely to be one in which AI simply replaces people.最有用的未来不可能是AI简单地取代人的未来.
72While replacement will undoubtedly happen in some cases,虽然在某些情况下无疑会更换,
73I believe a more common scenario will involve people and agents working together,我相信一个更常见的情况 将涉及人和特工合作,
74with each doing what it does best.每个人尽其所能
75Humans bring judgement, experience, values, contextual understanding and accountability.人类带来判断、经验、价值观、背景理解和问责制。
76Agents bring speed, persistence, scale and the ability to process enormous amounts of information.特工带来速度、持久性、规模和处理大量信息的能力。
77The goal should not be to create machines that make humans irrelevant.目标不应是创造机器,使人类变得无关紧要.
78It should be to create systems in which humans and machines应该是创造人类和机器的系统
79can achieve things neither can achieve alone.无法单独实现的东西。
80But such a future requires more than just better AI models.但这样的未来需要的不仅仅是更好的AI模型.
81It needs trust and transparency about what agents are doing,它需要信任和透明地了解代理人正在做什么,
82strong privacy protections and clear lines of accountability.强有力的隐私保护和明确的问责制。
83It will also require societies and governments to decide how these systems should be regulated它还要求社会和政府决定如何管理这些系统。
84when the most important behaviour may emerge not from one AI developer当最重要的行为不是来自一个AI开发者时
85but from interactions between systems built by many different organisations.但来自许多不同组织建立的系统之间的相互作用。
86AI's past decade has been defined by a race to build smarter systems.AI的过去10年被一个建立更智能系统的种族所定义.
87I believe the next decade will be defined by a different challenge,我认为下一个十年将受到不同的挑战,
88ensuring that millions of autonomous systems can work together safely, fairly and effectively.确保数百万个自主系统能够安全、公平和有效地合作。
89The future of AI will not be determined solely by the intelligence of individual agents.AI的未来不会完全取决于个别特工的情报.
90It will be determined by the societies they create.它将由它们创造的社会决定。
91And societies, as humans know all too well,社会,正如人类所知道的,
92are much harder to govern than individuals.比个人更难治理
93You are listening to The Conversation where Nick Jennings writes,你在听尼克・詹宁斯写的谈话
94The next frontier is not artificial intelligence, it's artificial societies.接下来的前沿不是人工智能,而是人工社会.
95This article was published on 10th September 2026 and was read by Martin Buchanan for NOAA.这篇文章发表于2026年9月10日,由马丁·布坎南为NOAA阅读.
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时间英文中文
0:05你在听《对话》 2026年9月10日 Nick Jennings
0:11英国Loughborough大学副校长兼校长写道:
0:16The next frontier is not artificial intelligence, it's artificial society.下一个前沿不是人工智能,而是人工社会.
0:21你在听《对话》 2026年9月10日 Nick Jennings
0:28英国Loughborough大学副校长兼校长写道:
0:29The next frontier is not artificial intelligence, it's artificial society.下一个前沿不是人工智能,而是人工社会.
0:35There is a temptation to divide the future of AI into two possibilities, utopia or catastrophe.将AI的未来分为乌托邦或灾难两种可能性是一种诱惑.
0:42Neither extreme is particularly helpful.这两种极端都特别有用。
0:45It's easy to divide the future of artificial intelligence into two possibilities.将人工智能的未来分为两种可能性很容易.
0:55The more interesting possibility is messier and requires a step shift in our thinking from artificial intelligence to AI societies.更有趣的可能性是更混乱,需要我们的思想从人工智能向AI社会逐步转变.
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1你在听《对话》 2026年9月10日 Nick Jennings
2英国Loughborough大学副校长兼校长写道:
3The next frontier is not artificial intelligence, it's artificial society.下一个前沿不是人工智能,而是人工社会.
4你在听《对话》 2026年9月10日 Nick Jennings
5英国Loughborough大学副校长兼校长写道:
6The next frontier is not artificial intelligence, it's artificial society.下一个前沿不是人工智能,而是人工社会.
7There is a temptation to divide the future of AI into two possibilities, utopia or catastrophe.将AI的未来分为乌托邦或灾难两种可能性是一种诱惑.
8Neither extreme is particularly helpful.这两种极端都特别有用。
9It's easy to divide the future of artificial intelligence into two possibilities.将人工智能的未来分为两种可能性很容易.
10The more interesting possibility is messier and requires a step shift in our thinking from artificial intelligence to AI societies.更有趣的可能性是更混乱,需要我们的思想从人工智能向AI社会逐步转变.
11When most people hear AI, they typically think of chat GPT, co-pilot or another conversational system.当大多数人听到AI时,他们一般会想到聊天GPT,副驾驶或者另一个对话系统.
12You ask a question, that system generates an answer.你问一个问题, 这个系统产生一个答案。
13But AI is rapidly moving beyond this.但AI正在迅速超越这个范围.
14Systems can now monitor the world, make decisions, negotiate transactions and carry out tasks over extended periods of time.系统现在可以监测世界,作出决定,谈判交易,并在很长一段时间内执行任务.
15AI is no longer just generating an answer, it is doing something about it.大赦国际不再只是提出一个答案,它正在做一些事情。
16That points to something much bigger than a better chatbot,这说明比一个更好的聊天人要大得多
17a world in which AI agents act on our behalf and increasingly interact with other AI agents.一个AI代理代表我们行事,并越来越多地与其他AI代理互动的世界.
18That points to something much bigger than a better chatbot,这说明比一个更好的聊天人要大得多
19a world in which AI agents act on our behalf and increasingly interact with other AI agents.一个AI代理代表我们行事,并越来越多地与其他AI代理互动的世界.
20An agent perceives what is happening, decides what to do, then takes actions to achieve this goal.一个代理人能察觉到正在发生的事情,决定该怎么办,然后采取行动来实现这一目标。
21Coordinate a team or manage a household's finances.协调一个团队或管理一个家庭的财务。
22Now imagine not one agent, but millions of them.现在想象一下 不是一个特工 而是数百万个特工
23Your AI agent can negotiate a mortgage with your bank's agent, schedule surgery with a hospital's agent,你的人工智能探员可以和你银行的经纪人谈房贷 安排医院的经纪人做手术
24and rearrange your travel plans by dealing directly with the agents of airlines, hotels and insurers.与航空公司、旅馆和保险公司的代理人直接打交道,重新安排旅行计划。
25This future is much closer than it sounds, and this should change the questions we are asking about AI.这个未来比听起来要近得多,这应该能改变我们所问的AI的问题.
26Until now, the tendency has been to focus on how intelligent a single agent might become.直到现在,人们一直倾向于关注单一的毒剂的智能化程度。
27The more profound challenge is what happens when millions of them interact with one another at scale.更深刻的挑战是,当数百万人进行大规模互动时,会发生什么事。
28The theoretical foundation of today's AI system has been established long before chatgpt.今日AI系统的理论基础早在聊天前就已经建立.
29For decades, I have been discussing with researchers on the multi-intelligent network.几十年来,我一直在与多智能网络的研究人员进行讨论。
30In a situation where information is incomplete and no one can control everything, how can a self-controlled intelligent body achieve cooperation, coordination and communication?在信息不完整,无人能控制一切的情况下,自我控制的智能体如何实现合作,协调和交流?
31The earlier systems that emerged focused on how the distinct AI sub-areas of reasoning, planning and acting could be combined into an effective goal-oriented agent,早期出现的系统侧重于如何将AI的推理、规划和行动等不同的分领域合并为一个面向目标的有效代理人,
32and how tens of these agents could communicate and cooperate to solve a common objective.以及其中的数十名特工能够如何沟通与合作以解决一个共同目标。
33As these interactions became more complex and involved more agents, there was a shift from cooperation between agents,随着这些互动变得更加复杂,涉及更多的代理人,从代理人之间的合作发生了转变,
34that all belonged to a single organization, to agents with different owners and sometimes competing aims.它们都属于一个单一组织,属于具有不同所有人和有时相互竞争目的的代理人。
35As these interactions became more complex and involved more and more agents,随着这些互动变得更加复杂,并越来越多地涉及到代理人,
36cooperation also shifted from agents that all belonged to a single organization,合作也从所有行为者都属于一个组织,
37to agents with different owners and sometimes competing aims.给有不同主人的代理人,有时还有相互竞争的目的。
38This focused attention on building algorithms that could form agent teams, automate negotiation and determine agent trustworthiness.这集中了对构建算法的关注,这些算法可以组成代理团队,使谈判自动化,并确定代理的可信赖性.
39Today, the pieces needed to build large-scale multi-agent AI systems are falling into place.今天,建设大规模多代理AI系统所需的棋子正在落地.
40Modern AI agents can call software tools, access information, write and execute code, communicate with other systems and operate for extended periods.现代AI代理可以调用软件工具,访问信息,编写和执行代码,与其他系统通信并长时间运行.
41Consider a supply chain.考虑一个供应链。
42One AI agent could represent a manufacturer trying to secure components.一个AI代理可以代表一个试图保护部件的制造商.
43Another, a supplier trying to maximize its revenue.另一个是供应商试图最大限度地增加收入。
44Yet more could manage transport, inventory and warehouses.然而,还可以管理更多的运输、库存和仓库。
45Each agent might be doing exactly what it is designed to do.每位特工可能都在做自己要做的事
46But the important question is whether the system they create behaves sensibly.但重要的问题是,他们创造的系统是否明智。
47This shift offers enormous potential benefits, but also increases the risks.这一转变带来了巨大的潜在好处,但也增加了风险。
48在最近涉及OpenAI和技术平台Hugging Face的实验中,
49thousands of collaborating agents exchanged tens of thousands of messages数千名合作人员交换了数万条信息
50and were able to get around the deliberately weakened security controls designed to contain them.并得以绕过蓄意削弱的旨在控制这些装置的安全控制。
51在最近由OpenAI和技术平台Hugging Face进行的实验中,
52thousands of smart bodies that worked together exchanged tens of thousands of messages数以千计的聪明人一起工作 交换了数万条信息
53and were able to get around the deliberately weakened security controls designed to contain them.并得以绕过蓄意削弱的旨在控制这些装置的安全控制。
54One of the details of the experiment is far less important than the extensive warning behind it.实验的细节之一远不如背后的广泛警告重要.
55When AI systems interact with each other,当AI系统互相影响时,
56the behavior of the entire system group is often harder to predict than the behavior of any single system.整个系统组的行为往往比任何单一系统的行为更难预测.
57This should keep us cautious, but we don't have to give up our efforts.这应该让我们保持谨慎,但我们不必放弃努力.
58On the contrary, we need to transform the thinking model from creating intelligent machines to building a smart society.相反,我们需要将思维模式从创造智能机器转变为建设智能社会.
59We are no longer dealing with isolated machines, we are dealing with a society.我们不再处理孤立的机器,而是处理一个社会。
60Thus, the next frontier is not artificial intelligence, it is artificial societies.因此,下一个前沿不是人工智能,而是人工社会.
61We already know that intelligence alone does not make a society work.我们已经知道,光靠智慧不能使社会发挥作用。
62Human societies depend on rules, institutions, incentives, norms, and mechanisms for resolving disagreements.人类社会依赖规则、体制、激励措施、规范和机制来解决分歧。
63AI societies will need their equivalents.AI社会需要它们的同等条件。
64Who is responsible when two agents make a bad decision?当两个特工做出错误的决定时,谁负责呢?
65What happens when the interests of different agents conflict?不同代理人的利益发生冲突时会怎样?
66Who sets the rules?谁制定规则?
67And who has the power to change them?谁能改变它们?
68These are not just technical issues, they are questions about economics, law, politics, and society.这些不仅仅是技术问题,而是经济、法律、政治和社会问题。
69They also point to an important role for humans.它们还指出了人类的重要作用。
70The most useful future is unlikely to be one in which AI simply replaces people.最有用的未来不可能是AI简单地取代人的未来.
71While replacement will undoubtedly happen in some cases,虽然在某些情况下无疑会更换,
72I believe a more common scenario will involve people and agents working together, with each doing what it does best.我认为,更常见的情况是,人们和代理人将携手合作,各尽所能。
73Humans bring judgment, experience, values, contextual understanding, and accountability.人类带来判断、经验、价值观、背景理解和问责制。
74Agents bring speed, persistence, scale, and the ability to process enormous amounts of information.特工带来了速度、持久性、规模和处理大量信息的能力。
75The goal should not be to create machines that make humans irrelevant.目标不应是创造机器,使人类变得无关紧要.
76It should be to create systems in which humans and machines can achieve things neither can achieve alone.应该是建立各种系统,使人类和机器能够实现无法单独实现的东西。
77But such a future requires more than just better AI models.但这样的未来需要的不仅仅是更好的AI模型.
78It needs trust and transparency about what agents are doing, strong privacy protections, and clear lines of accountability.它需要信任和透明地了解代理人正在做什么,需要强有力的隐私保护,以及明确的问责制。
79It will also require societies and governments to decide how these systems should be regulated它还要求社会和政府决定如何管理这些系统。
80when the most important behavior may emerge not from one AI developer,当最重要的行为可能 不从一个AI开发者,
81but from interactions between systems built by many different organizations.但来自许多不同组织建立的系统之间的相互作用。
82The most important behavior may not emerge from one AI developer,一个AI开发者可能不会出现最重要的行为,
83but from interactions between systems built by many different organizations.但来自许多不同组织建立的系统之间的相互作用。
84Societies and governments also need to decide how these systems should be regulated.社会和政府也需要决定如何管理这些系统。
85In the past decade, the core trend in the field of AI is to create smarter systems in a closed environment.在过去十年中,AI领域的核心趋势是在封闭的环境下建立更聪明的系统.
86can work together safely, fairly, and effectively.能够安全、公平和有效地合作。
87The future of AI will not be determined solely by the intelligence of individual agents.AI的未来不会完全取决于个别特工的情报.
88It will be determined by the societies they create.它将由它们创造的社会决定。
89And societies, as humans know all too well, are much harder to govern than individuals.人类非常清楚,社会比个人更难治理。
90You are listening to The Conversation, where Nick Jennings writes,你在听尼克·詹宁斯写的《对话》
91The next frontier is not artificial intelligence, it's artificial societies.接下来的前沿不是人工智能,而是人工社会.
92This article was published on the 10th of September, 2026, and was read by Martin Buchanan for NOAA.这篇文章发表于2026年9月10日,由马丁·布坎南为NOAA阅读.
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