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6-25 委内瑞拉突发致命大地震,核心机场瘫痪,川普的重建计

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0:00Welcome to the Global News podcast from the BBC.欢迎来到英国广播公司的全球新闻播客。
0:02I'm Valerie Sanderson and I'm joined by Luis Fajardo.我是瓦莱丽·桑德森 路易斯·法贾多也加入我
0:06Luis, Venezuela has declared a state of emergency because of the earthquakes that have happened in路易斯,委内瑞拉宣布进入紧急状态 因为地震发生在
0:11the country.国家。
0:12What can you tell us?你能告诉我们什么?
0:13The images and the news we're getting from Venezuela are truly我们从委内瑞拉得到的图像和消息是真的
0:17heartbreaking.令人心碎。
0:18The amount of destruction that the country has suffered and it is going to have to国家遭受的破坏程度,将不得不
0:23deal with a huge task of reconstruction from what the first images we're getting.处理一个巨大的重建任务 从我们最初得到的图像。
0:28We see images in我们看到图像在
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1Welcome to the Global News podcast from the BBC.欢迎来到英国广播公司的全球新闻播客。
2I'm Valerie Sanderson and I'm joined by Luis Fajardo.我是瓦莱丽·桑德森 路易斯·法贾多也加入我
3Luis, Venezuela has declared a state of emergency because of the earthquakes that have happened in路易斯,委内瑞拉宣布进入紧急状态 因为地震发生在
4the country.国家。
5What can you tell us?你能告诉我们什么?
6The images and the news we're getting from Venezuela are truly我们从委内瑞拉得到的图像和消息是真的
7heartbreaking.令人心碎。
8The amount of destruction that the country has suffered and it is going to have to国家遭受的破坏程度,将不得不
9deal with a huge task of reconstruction from what the first images we're getting.处理一个巨大的重建任务 从我们最初得到的图像。
10We see images in我们看到图像在
11the Venezuelan capital of entire rows of high-rise buildings very seriously damaged, in some cases委内瑞拉一整排高层建筑的首府严重受损,在某些情况下
12even flattened basically.基本上甚至平了下来
13Also images in other areas of the Caracas metropolitan area, people在加拉加斯市区的其他地区,
14in their neighborhoods seeing their houses or the houses of their neighbors destroyed.在他们的社区里,看见他们的房屋或邻居的房屋被摧毁。
15The authorities当局
16are saying that one of the worst hits or possibly the worst hit area is the city is the area around说一个最糟糕的打击 或可能是最糟糕的打击区域 是城市周围的区域
17La Guaira.拉瓜亚拉.
18La Guaira is a port relatively close to the capital, to Caracas.拉瓜伊拉是一个与首都,加拉加斯相对接近的港口.
19It is also very near to也离我们很近
20where the international airport is, to Maquetea International Airport, which the airport is国际机场所在的马凯蒂亚国际机场
21serving the nation's capital.为国家首都服务。
22It also controls most of the international air traffic of the它还控制了美国空军的大部分国际空中交通。
23country.国家。
24This airport has been very seriously damaged according to authorities.据当局称,该机场受到严重破坏。
25It has to be一定要这样
26closed for a while and there is concern that other parts of the country are going to also be暂时关闭,人们担心该国其他地区也将关闭。
27reporting the serious damages as more information becomes available.在获得更多信息后,报告严重损害情况。
28We understand something like a我们理解一些像
29quarter of the population needed urgent aid even before this natural disaster.在这场自然灾害之前,四分之一的人口需要紧急援助。
30Explain more about更解释一下
31that.那个
32Venezuela is still reeling from the difficulties of many years of economic chaos,委内瑞拉仍在摆脱多年经济混乱的困难,
33you'd have to describe it that way, during the past Maduro administration.在马杜罗执政期间 你得用这种方式描述
34During that time of期间
35Venezuela suffered all kinds of economic problems.委内瑞拉经历了各种经济问题。
36It suffered hyperinflation and also a huge它遭受恶性通货膨胀 和巨大的
37outflow of migrants to other countries in Latin America and to other parts, to the US, to Europe.移民外流到拉丁美洲其他国家和其他地区、美国、欧洲。
38Again, one of the striking elements of this tragedy is so many Venezuelans abroad, millions这场悲剧的震撼因素之一 又是如此众多的委内瑞拉人
39of Venezuelans abroad, trying to come to terms with what happened and trying to find out about委内瑞拉海外人士试图了解真相,
40their loved ones, of course.当然是他们的亲人
41So yes, Venezuela has been suffering a lot.因此,委内瑞拉遭受了很多苦难。
42It had been seen as它被视为
43relatively stabilizing its economy in more recent times, but still a very large part of the近代经济相对稳定,但仍是大部分
44population, as you say, suffering a very, very difficult condition, which is surely going to正如你所言,人民遭受着非常非常困难的境遇,这肯定会是:
45become even more difficult to manage with this major tragedy that has happened in the country.在该国发生的这一重大悲剧变得更加困难。
46Well yes, as you said, very difficult conditions.嗯,是的,就像你说的, 非常困难的条件。
47What does it mean, do you think, for response to你觉得这是什么意思?
48disaster on the ground?地面上的灾难?
49That is going to be clearly a very big challenge for Venezuelan对委内瑞拉来说,这显然是一个巨大的挑战
50authorities.当局。
51Also, a tricky political situation that is that the country is facing, of course,而且,一个棘手的政治局势, 国家正面临,当然,
52after the January military operation led by the US in which the former president Nicolás Maduro在前总统尼古拉斯·马杜罗领导的美国1月军事行动之后
53was removed from power.被解除权力。
54It is unclear exactly what kind of role the US is going to have in this目前还不清楚美国将扮演什么样的角色
55rescue operation.救援行动。
56Of course, President Trump has already said and other high-ranking US officials当然,川普总统已经说过 和其他美国高级官员
57have said that the US is going to offer a lot of support to Venezuela, but it is tricky, again,已经说过,美国将向委内瑞拉提供大量支持,但这又很棘手,
58because of the political circumstance that the country is experiencing.由于该国的政治情况。
59The Trump administration said it had taken the deliberate decision when this January operation特朗普政府说,当这次1月的行动时,它已经作出慎重的决定.
60took place of leaving a lot of officials and people close to the former administration in place,造成许多官员和人员离前政府很近,
61because they said then, in January of this year, that if everyone was removed it would cause因为今年1月他们说 如果所有人都被带走了
62chaos, it would cause anarchy, so they needed to keep a lot of the government system in place,混乱,这会导致无政府状态, 所以他们需要 保持很多的政府系统,
63the old government system in place, and this has created a very awkward situation in which a lot这造成了一个非常尴尬的局面 在很多
64people who had strong allegiance to the Maduro administration and, in fact, had been taught忠于马杜罗政府的人 事实上,他们受过教育
65to think of the United States as their main enemy and they had said for many years that the United他们多年来一直说美国
66States was their main enemy.国家是其主要敌人。
67Now, these are the people that the US would need to work with,这些是美国需要合作的人,
68presumably, to try to get all the aid and to try to start the reconstruction process, so it is going可能,试图得到所有的援助 并试图启动重建进程, 所以它正在
69to be interesting and challenging, many observers are saying, to see how this actually works out许多观察家认为,
70in practice when the US starts to send aid and try to help Venezuela in other ways.在实践中,美国开始提供援助,并试图以其他方式帮助委内瑞拉。
71Well, we should say that the US have already said that they are going to have a quick response.我们应该说,美国已经说过 他们将会得到迅速的响应。
72I mean, what is mostly needed now?现在最需要的是什么?
73It is certainly, initially, there's,当然,一开始,有,
74of course, a search and rescue operation going on.当然,搜救行动还在继续
75Venezuela has said that it has received many委内瑞拉说,它收到许多
76offers of aid, not only from the United States, from many other countries in Latin America and不仅美国、拉丁美洲其他许多国家和
77further afield, to try to find, of course, the many people who are still missing, the many,当然,为了找到仍然失踪的许多人
78many people who are still missing.许多人仍然失踪。
79Of course, we don't have a clear idea of the numbers yet,当然,我们还不清楚数字
80but certainly, the first hours, as in most tragedies of this kind, it is going to be a但是,当然,头几个小时, 像在大多数这种悲剧中, 它将是一个
81search and rescue operation.搜救行动。
82But then, in the months and even the years after, you're definitely但之后的几个月甚至几年里 你绝对是
83going to have to see a very big influx of capital, of technical know-how, of managerial know-how,必须看到资本、技术诀窍、管理诀窍的大量流入,
84to try to rebuild the infrastructure, which surely has been very damaged during this试图重建基础设施,因为基础设施在这期间确实受到严重破坏。
85tragedy that has happened in Venezuela.委内瑞拉发生的悲剧。
86Well, President Trump, he has already promised川普总统,他已经答应了
87redevelopment money and reinvestment in the country, hasn't he?在国内再开发资金和再投资,不是吗?
88I mean, how do you think我是说,你觉得怎么样?
89this disaster might affect that?这场灾难会影响它吗?
90Well, clearly, again, Venezuela is going to have more of a很明显,委内瑞拉将会有更多
91challenge in trying to redevelop its economic system with this tragedy.试图通过这场悲剧重新发展其经济体制。
92Of course, a lot of当然,很多
93the expectations of economic recovery in Venezuela during this very troubled year were centered委内瑞拉在此动荡的一年中经济复苏的希望以委内瑞拉为中心
94around the idea of the oil industry returning to its former glory.环绕着石油工业回归其过去辉煌的想法.
95You know, Venezuela has the委内瑞拉有
96largest oil reserves, proven oil reserves in the world, but the oil industry was a shadow of itself世界上最大的石油储量 已经证明的石油储量
97in recent years because of all the mismanagement, all the political problems that the country had近年来,由于所有管理不善、国家存在的所有政治问题,
98faced.面对。
99And there was a lot of hope in the idea that with the new political arrangement, there有了新的政治安排,
100was going to be a lot of investment into the oil industry, which would have a positive impact for将会对石油工业产生积极的影响
101the international economy, of course, but mainly for Venezuelans.当然,国际经济,但主要是委内瑞拉人。
102The idea that this was going to这个想法是要
103be the main source of rebuilding their country after all these years of economic unrest and成为这些年来经济动荡之后重建国家的主要来源,
104political unrest.政治动荡。
105Now, it's going to be probably harder.现在,它可能会更难。
106Now, it is said that the oil infrastructure,据说石油基础设施
107there is not a lot of information of direct hits on the oil infrastructure.对石油基础设施的直接打击信息不多。
108Actually, a lot of the其实,很多
109oil facilities were in other parts of the country that apparently were not as directly hit by the石油设施在该国其他地区显然没有受到直接打击。
110earthquake.地震发生.
111But certainly, I mean, starting from the very, very basic situation in which a lot of但当然,我是说,从非常,非常基本的情况开始, 在很多
112the communications of the country are not working, the international airport seemed very damaged.国际机场似乎严重受损,
113So,这么说
114of course, this is going to create additional pressures, additional challenges for Venezuelans当然,这将给委内瑞拉人带来更多的压力,更多的挑战
115who have not had an easy time by any means in the last few years.在过去几年中,他们没有任何轻松的时间。
116You're describing, Luis, a very你在描述,路易斯,一个非常
117troubled country.烦恼之国.
118Now we have a natural disaster.现在我们有一场自然灾害。
119As you said, the economy is in dire straits.正如你说的,经济陷入困境。
120And还有
121there are also calls for free and fair elections.也有人呼吁举行自由和公正的选举。
122Do you think that's going to be turbocharged by你觉得这会不会被
123what's happening, that people want to have a say in what happens going forward after this disaster?发生什么了? 人们想在这场灾难之后 有发言权吗?
124Certainly, in January, just after the removal of Nicolás Maduro, there was a lot of expectation当然,在1月,就在尼科拉斯·马杜罗被清除之后,人们寄予厚望。
125that a lot of change was going to happen in Venezuela very quickly.委内瑞拉将很快发生许多变化。
126The people were seeing人们看到
127the prospect of new elections happening soon, of the release of all political prisoners, a return即将举行新选举、释放所有政治犯、回归的前景
128to the democratic normality that the country once had.国家曾经的民主常态。
129This has not taken place.这还没有发生。
130Of course,当然
131the Trump administration has been saying that it has to work very gradually and very carefully to川普政府一直说,它必须非常缓慢和非常谨慎地开展工作,以便
132maintain the stability of the system.保持系统的稳定。
133So, it has been frustrating for many Venezuelans without a对许多委内瑞拉人来说,
134doubt that there have been no direct announcements of imminent presidential elections.怀疑没有直接宣布即将举行总统选举。
135And the very和非常
136fact that the acting president of Venezuela, Del C. Rodriguez, who was a very prominent member委内瑞拉代理总统Del C. Rodriguez是一位非常杰出的成员,
137of the previous government, she's still in charge.前任政府,她仍然负责。
138The Trump administration has often said that they川普政府经常说
139are working very well with her, that they're very happy with this arrangement.他们很满意这个安排
140So, a lot of Venezuelans很多委内瑞拉人
141were thinking, when is this actually going to happen?我在想,这什么时候会发生?
142When are we going to move to the next stage我们什么时候才能进入下一阶段
143of the normalization of the country?国家正常化?
144And certainly, with this tragedy, I imagine that many people will当然,在这场悲剧中,我想很多人会
145be also saying, we need political change in Venezuela.还要说,我们需要委内瑞拉的政治变革。
146And that is what they have been asking这就是他们一直要求的
147for.为.
148And there's certainly going to be pressure on the U.S. government to continue and maybe美国政府肯定会有压力 继续,也许
149accelerate this path towards a democratic system in Venezuela.加快委内瑞拉走向民主制度的道路。
150What about the response on the ground当地的反应如何
151from the Venezuelan authorities themselves to these earthquakes?从委内瑞拉当局到这些地震?
152Is it effective?有效吗?
153Venezuela,委内瑞拉
154as we've been discussing, has had a very, very trouble the last few years.正如我们一直在讨论的, 在过去几年里遇到了非常非常非常麻烦。
155And one of the things还有一件事
156that has often been said, even before this tragedy, was the lack of capacity of the Venezuelan state委内瑞拉国家缺乏能力,
157to respond to many needs of the citizenship.满足公民的许多需要。
158After so many years of troubles, a lot of state经过这么多年的烦恼, 很多州
159institutions are seen as not working very well.各机构的工作表现不佳。
160So, there's a lot of anxiety about how effective所以,有很多的焦虑 关于如何有效
161the immediate response is going to be undertaken by the Venezuelan government.委内瑞拉政府将立即作出反应。
162Certainly, a lot of当然,很多
163difficulties.困难
164Again, communications are very badly affected.同样,通信也受到严重影响。
165Even before this, Venezuela was a country之前委内瑞拉就是一个国家
166that faced very frequent power outages, things like that.经常发生断电之类的事
167And I imagine with the hit of the我想象着...
168earthquake, it's going to be even more challenging.地震会更具有挑战性
169So, a lot of doubts of how the Venezuelan所以,很多关于委内瑞拉人的怀疑
170government and state authorities are going to respond to this tragedy.政府和州当局将对这一悲剧作出反应。
171They certainly, again,他们肯定,再次,
172are asking for international help.请求国际帮助。
173A lot of countries are offering it, and they most likely很多国家都在提供,他们很可能
174will be needing a lot of it in the next few weeks and even months.在接下来的几周甚至几个月里 需要很多钱
175Thanks, Louis.谢谢 刘易斯
176That was Louis Fajardo there.那是路易斯・法杰多
177If you want to hear more on this story, just listen如果你想听更多关于这个故事,只要听
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180But that's it from this edition of the但从这个版本
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