【牛津辩论】本院对现任英国政府不信任 2026-11-06
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| 0:05 | Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, without any further ado, on the motion, this House | 女士们,先生们, 男孩们, 女孩们, 没有任何进一步的放弃, 在动议上,本院 |
| 0:11 | has no confidence in His Majesty's government. | 对陛下的政府没有信心 |
| 0:13 | It is with great pleasure that I call upon the first speaker for the proposition, the | 我非常高兴地请第一位发言者发言。 |
| 0:18 | 秘书委员会委员,Ahmet Desai。 | |
| 0:28 | Thank you, thank you Mr. President. | 谢谢你,主席先生。 |
| 0:31 | It is my pleasure to open the case for the proposition this evening on the motion, this | 我很高兴今晚能为这个动议开个口 |
| 0:37 | House has no confidence in His Majesty's government. | 豪斯对陛下的政府没有信心. |
| 0:40 | It should be obvious why this House should have no confidence in the Labour government. | 这应该很明显,为什么本议院对工党政府没有信心. |
| 0:46 | After two years of weak leadership under Keir Starmer, two disastrous budgets, the plan | 在基尔·斯塔默(Keir Starmer)的两年领导力薄弱之后, |
| 0:53 | to give away the Cheyots and a string of devastating U-turns, even Labour MPs lost confidence in | 甚至工党议员都对 |
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| 1 | Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, without any further ado, on the motion, this House | 女士们,先生们, 男孩们, 女孩们, 没有任何进一步的放弃, 在动议上,本院 |
| 2 | has no confidence in His Majesty's government. | 对陛下的政府没有信心 |
| 3 | It is with great pleasure that I call upon the first speaker for the proposition, the | 我非常高兴地请第一位发言者发言。 |
| 4 | 秘书委员会委员,Ahmet Desai。 | |
| 5 | Thank you, thank you Mr. President. | 谢谢你,主席先生。 |
| 6 | It is my pleasure to open the case for the proposition this evening on the motion, this | 我很高兴今晚能为这个动议开个口 |
| 7 | House has no confidence in His Majesty's government. | 豪斯对陛下的政府没有信心. |
| 8 | It should be obvious why this House should have no confidence in the Labour government. | 这应该很明显,为什么本议院对工党政府没有信心. |
| 9 | After two years of weak leadership under Keir Starmer, two disastrous budgets, the plan | 在基尔·斯塔默(Keir Starmer)的两年领导力薄弱之后, |
| 10 | to give away the Cheyots and a string of devastating U-turns, even Labour MPs lost confidence in | 甚至工党议员都对 |
| 11 | their own government. | 他们自己的政府。 |
| 12 | Their solution was to import a new MP. | 他们的解决方案是进口一名新议员. |
| 13 | Apparently, finding no talent within the parliamentary Labour Party, they got Mr. Berman, a less | 显然,在议会工党内找不到人才 他们得到了伯曼先生,少一点 |
| 14 | robotic personality perhaps, but with a far more radical and dangerous agenda, disregard | 机器人的个性,也许, 但有一个更激进和危险的议程, |
| 15 | for our national security and a strange obsession with bringing us back to the 1970s, the decade | 为了我们的国家安全 和奇怪的执着 让我们回到1970年代,十年 |
| 16 | of the winter of discontent and the IMF bailout. | 充满不满的冬天和国际货币基金组织的救助。 |
| 17 | Now, I was not actually meant to speak tonight. | 现在,我其实不打算今晚说话。 |
| 18 | Mothian Alley, the deputy leader of the Greens, was meant to come but he sadly couldn't make | 摩斯语Name 绿党的副领袖艾莱本来要来的 但他却不能 |
| 19 | it and in his place they chose me, the President-elect of the Conservative Association. | 他们选择了我 保守党协会的当选主席 |
| 20 | I'm of a different party, very different politics, but apparently the Union looked at me and | 我是一个不同的政党, 非常不同的政治, 但显然工会看着我, |
| 21 | thought, close enough, you know. | 考虑,足够接近,你知道的。 |
| 22 | Before we begin the debate, it is my pleasure to introduce the opposition speakers and, | 在我们开始辩论之前,我高兴地介绍反对党的发言者, |
| 23 | as is tradition, make jokes about them. | 就像传统一样, 给他们开个玩笑. |
| 24 | First, we have Harry Aldridge, our librarian and a great friend of mine, a man who is no | 首先,我们有哈里·奥尔德里奇, 我们的图书管理员和我的一个好朋友, 一个男人谁不是 |
| 25 | stranger to no confidence motions. | 无信心动议的陌生人 |
| 26 | For those of you who are new here, Harry was removed as new college JCR president but he | 对于你们这些新来的 Harry被解除了JCR新大学校长的职务 |
| 27 | has returned this year more determined than ever and is now running for Union president. | 今年的回归比以往更加坚定,目前正在竞选联盟主席。 |
| 28 | In that sense, he's very much like Andy Burnham, ambitious, unafraid of sliming his enemies, | 从这个意义上讲,他很像安迪·伯纳姆,野心勃勃,不惧怕使敌人变瘦, |
| 29 | although, rather than adopting a northern accent, Harry chooses something closer to | 虽然, 而不是采用北方口音, 哈利选择更接近 |
| 30 | that of a choking dolphin. | 一条窒息的海豚。 |
| 31 | Next, we have George Christensen from Magdalen College. | 接下来是马格达伦学院的乔治·克里斯滕森 |
| 32 | I'm surprised to see George speaking for opposition because he once told me he's a | 我惊讶地看到乔治说反对 因为他曾经告诉我他是 |
| 33 | Tory, although if he can abandon his principles this easily, a future in politics seems appropriate. | 托里,尽管如果他能轻易放弃他的原则, 政治的未来似乎是合适的。 |
| 34 | Next, we have Mr Fraser Campbell, former Oxford Union president, European debating champion, | 接下来,我们有弗雷泽·坎贝尔先生,前牛津联盟主席,欧洲辩论冠军, |
| 35 | also fellow and now King's Council. | 也是现在的国王议会 |
| 36 | Given that Mr Campbell has spent most of his life winning arguments, I'm going to go easy | 鉴于坎贝尔先生一生中大部分时间都在争吵中胜诉,我就要轻松了 |
| 37 | on this one. | 这个 |
| 38 | Next, we have Mr Stephen Pound, former MP for Ealing North and former shadow minister | 接下来是史蒂芬·庞德先生 前北爱林国会议员 前任影子部长 |
| 39 | for Northern Ireland. | 北爱尔兰 |
| 40 | Among the many distinguished moments of his career, there was a slight bump in the road. | 在他职业生涯的众多杰出时刻中,路上出现了轻微的颠簸. |
| 41 | Can you move on now, please? | 你现在能继续了吗? |
| 42 | When the Daily Mail accused him of falling asleep in the Commons debate. | 当"每日邮报"指责他在下议院的辩论中睡着了. |
| 43 | I can only hope tonight will be lively enough to keep you awake. | 我只能希望今晚能活到让你保持清醒 |
| 44 | And finally, Lord Paul Murphy, a Labour titan who now sits in the Lords, a former Northern | 最后,保罗·墨菲勋爵, 一个工党巨人,他现在坐在领主, 一个前北方人 |
| 45 | Ireland secretary and twice Welsh secretary. | 爱尔兰秘书和两次威尔士秘书. |
| 46 | Now, looking into his record, I found out that during the parliamentary expenses scandal, | 现在,在他的记录,我发现 在议会开支丑闻, |
| 47 | it was reported that he claimed for a toilet roll holder. | 据报道,他声称有一个厕所卷手。 |
| 48 | At least he's now got somewhere to put the 2024 Labour manifesto. | 至少他现在有地方 发布2024年的劳工宣言。 |
| 49 | Mr President, these are your guests and they are most welcome. | 总统先生,这是你的客人,他们非常受欢迎。 |
| 50 | Now, to the central reason that people should have no confidence in this government. | 现在,对于人民应该对这个政府没有信心的核心原因. |
| 51 | It's failure to keep Britain safe. | 保护英国安全的失败. |
| 52 | When the prime minister said that national security can't come at the expense of social | 总理说国家安全不能牺牲社会利益 |
| 53 | security, there will have been cheers in Moscow, Beijing and Tehran. | 莫斯科、北京和德黑兰都会有欢呼声 |
| 54 | After a decade in which international crises from Ukraine to Iran have battered our economy, | 在从乌克兰到伊朗的国际危机打击了我国经济十年之后, |
| 55 | Britain cannot afford to be kicked around by world events. | 英国不能被世界事件踢倒。 |
| 56 | The Conservative Party is the only party currently with a fully funded plan to fund defence. | 保守党是目前唯一一个拥有全资国防经费计划的政党. |
| 57 | We cannot, we cannot adequately defend ourselves if attacked. | 我们不能,如果遭到攻击,我们就不能充分自卫。 |
| 58 | We couldn't send a ship to defend a British base. | 我们不能派船去保卫一个英国基地 |
| 59 | The entire regular British army could fit inside Wembley Stadium with over 15,000 seats | 整个英国正规军 可以容纳在温布利体育场 拥有超过15 000个座位 |
| 60 | to spare. | 以备不时之需 |
| 61 | If Argentina ever invades the Falkland Islands, | 如果阿根廷入侵福克兰群岛, |
| 62 | Burnham might want to deviate from Thomas Tuchel's defence strategy. | 伯纳姆可能想偏离托马斯·图歇尔的防御策略. |
| 63 | As such, a perilous time, Chancellor Healy, who resigned over defence spending earlier | 因此,一个危险的时期,希利总理,他因国防开支而辞职。 |
| 64 | this year, is kicking defence spending into the long grass, refusing to fund defence now | 拒绝为国防提供资金 |
| 65 | at the levels he demanded as defence secretary. | 他要求担任国防部长的级别。 |
| 66 | This is a disgrace. | 这是耻辱。 |
| 67 | The threats are here. | 威胁在这里。 |
| 68 | The spending cannot wait. | 开支不能等待。 |
| 69 | And what mandate does Andy Burnham have to change these priorities? | Andy Burnham有什么任务来改变这些优先事项? |
| 70 | Starmer entered Downing Street saying he wanted to end the era of noisy performance | 星客进入唐宁街 说他想结束吵闹的表演时代 |
| 71 | and tread more lightly on your lives. | 轻轻地踩着自己的生命 |
| 72 | Burnham offers the opposite. | 伯纳姆提供相反。 |
| 73 | Singing in a David Brent-like fashion to a Ukrainian soldier instead of funding defence, | 以大卫·布伦特的风格向一名乌克兰士兵唱歌,而不是资助国防, |
| 74 | ranking pub snacks while Labour's employer national insurance hike | 在LIFOR用人单位国家保险上市期间, |
| 75 | hammers the hospitality sector. | 敲响招待部门。 |
| 76 | All he seems to be doing is a walking noisy performance. | 他做的只是 走路吵闹的表演 |
| 77 | Instead of treading lightly on our lives, he spoke of control 24 times in his conference | 他没有轻视我们的生活,而是在会议上24次谈到控制 |
| 78 | speech, promising an ever-expanding state without the money to funding, tweaking the | 演讲,承诺一个不断扩大的国家 没有资金资助, |
| 79 | triple lock would barely pay for his national care plan he's proposed, according to the IFS. | 根据IFS,三锁几乎不会支付 他提出的国家护理计划。 |
| 80 | Then Labour sings at the end of the conference. | 之后,工党在会议结束后演唱. |
| 81 | They sang of a new Jerusalem, a Jerusalem in which they sang of a green and pleasant land. | 他们歌唱着一个新的耶路撒冷,一个他们歌唱着绿色和愉快的土地的耶路撒冷。 |
| 82 | Well, let's talk about the people who maintain this green and pleasant land and how Labour | 那么,让我们谈谈那些 维护这片绿色和愉快的土地的人们 以及工党是如何 |
| 83 | has treated them. | 治疗过他们 |
| 84 | Forty-two per cent of farmers surveyed said that they had considered leaving the industry. | 接受调查的42%的农民说,他们曾考虑离开这个行业。 |
| 85 | While 77 per cent identified government policy as their greatest concern. | 77%的人认为政府政策是他们最关切的问题。 |
| 86 | Higher costs, taxation, uncertainty don't just threaten farmers, they threaten rural | 高成本,税收,不确定性 不只是威胁农民,它们威胁农村 |
| 87 | communities and ultimately our food security. | 以及最终我们的粮食安全。 |
| 88 | When they sang Jerusalem, they promised of not... | 当他们唱耶路撒冷时, 他们答应不... |
| 89 | Jerusalem, of course, talks about not ceasing from mental fight, whereas Andy Burnham seems | 耶路撒冷,当然, 谈论不停止 从精神战斗, 而安迪伯纳姆似乎 |
| 90 | incapable of thinking things through. | 无法思考的事情。 |
| 91 | His devolution plans are so conflicting with each other. | 他的移交计划相互矛盾 |
| 92 | He has a proposal of a basic law where the national government seeks to reduce regional | 他提出一个基本法提案,要求国家政府设法减少地区性歧视。 |
| 93 | inequality, whereas his devolution plans seem to contradict this, because of course with | 他的权力下放计划似乎与此相矛盾, |
| 94 | devolutions you'll get more regional inequality. | 权力转移会给你带来更多的地区不平等 |
| 95 | Look at Scotland, look at Wales, how has it worked out for them? | 看看苏格兰,看看威尔士,这对他们有什么好处? |
| 96 | What Britain needs to build Jerusalem, as they sang at their conference, | 英国需要建造耶路撒冷, 正如他们在会议上所唱, |
| 97 | never mind building Jerusalem, they can't even build a single house. | 不管建造耶路撒冷, 他们甚至不能建造一个房子。 |
| 98 | I'm sorry, Angela Rayner said their 1.5 million housing pledge isn't even going to be met. | 对不起,安吉拉·雷纳说 他们的150万个住房承诺甚至不会兑现 |
| 99 | So, you know, get a move on. | 所以,你知道,得到一个前进。 |
| 100 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 101 | No, no, but the Tories are proposing planning reform and have planned to get | 不,不,但Tories正在提出 计划改革 并计划得到 |
| 102 | Britain building houses, but not only housing. | 英国建造房屋,但不只是房屋. |
| 103 | The Tories have said we will build the third runway at Heathrow Airport and Andy Burnham | 托里斯说我们会在希思罗机场 和安迪伯纳姆建造第三跑道 |
| 104 | is thinking about it. | 正在考虑。 |
| 105 | Make a decision and move on. | 作决定然后继续前进. |
| 106 | Anyway, they sang Jerusalem at Labour Party Conference, not understanding what the green | 总之,他们在工党大会上唱耶路撒冷, 却不明白什么绿色 |
| 107 | and pleasant land means, not understanding what England means. | 和愉快的土地意味着, 而不是理解英格兰意味着什么。 |
| 108 | They think that warm ale and Labradors are far right. | 他们认为暖酒和拉布拉多酒很合适 |
| 109 | I'm sure no one's told the Labradors about this. | 我敢肯定没有人告诉拉布拉多人这件事。 |
| 110 | You know, yes. | 你知道吗,是的。 |
| 111 | That is to stop the NIMBYism which plagues our country to get us building again. | 这是为了阻止困扰我国的NIMBY主义,使我们重新建设。 |
| 112 | Anyway, I will end on this. | 总之,我会结束这一点。 |
| 113 | Of course, I love Jerusalem and they decided to sing that even though they don't understand it. | 当然,我爱耶路撒冷 他们决定唱歌 尽管他们不明白。 |
| 114 | I propose a different song that Andy Burnham should take more inspiration for. | 我提议用另一首歌 让安迪·伯纳姆更能激发灵感 |
| 115 | Our national anthem, God Save the King. | 我们的国歌,上帝拯救国王。 |
| 116 | Its lyrics speak to values Burnham's Labour seems to disregard at every turn. | 它的歌词对伯纳姆的"工党"的价值表态,似乎在每一转弯都视而不见. |
| 117 | I'm not talking about scattering enemies or frustrating naivish tricks or rebellious Scots, | 我不是说散开敌人 或令人沮丧的无赖伎俩 或叛逆的苏格兰人 |
| 118 | for that matter, looking at John Sweeney, but nobility, grace, happiness and glory. | 看着约翰·斯威尼 但贵族、优雅、幸福和荣耀 |
| 119 | 和Sheridian 在国歌中补充, | |
| 120 | over him thine arm extend, for Britain's sake defend our father king and friend, | 为了保护我们的国王和朋友 |
| 121 | God Save the King. | 神救诸王. |
| 122 | Vote proposition tonight. | 今晚投票提议。 |
| 123 | Thank you very much. | 谢谢 |
| 124 | I thank Arav for that fine speech. | 我感谢阿拉夫的精彩讲话。 |
| 125 | Now, to open the case for the opposition, | 现在,为反对派辩护 |
| 126 | it gives me great pleasure to call upon the Librarian, Harry Aldridge. | 我很高兴能拜访图书馆员哈利·奥尔德里奇 |
| 127 | I yield my chair to Milo Donovan, the President-elect, Lincoln College. | 我把我的椅子交给米洛·多诺万 当选总统林肯学院 |
| 128 | Seven Prime Ministers in 10 years. | 十年内七总理. |
| 129 | Mr President, that is the record of British government in the last decade. | 总统先生 这是英国政府过去十年来的记录 |
| 130 | Again and again, a government has arrived promising change. | 一个政府一次又一次地出现了有希望的变化。 |
| 131 | And again and again, a promise has been cut short, usually not by voters, | 一次又一次地, 一个承诺被缩短了, 通常不是由选民, |
| 132 | but by Westminster itself. | 但由威斯敏斯特自己决定 |
| 133 | Think about what that has cost us. | 想想这花了我们多少钱 |
| 134 | Industrial strategies torn up before the ink was dry. | 工业策略在墨水干涸前被撕裂. |
| 135 | Infrastructure projects started, scrapped, and it started over once again. | 基础设施项目开始,被拆除,它又重新开始。 |
| 136 | Investors who looked at Britain and instead of investing, | 投资人看英国 而不是投资, |
| 137 | instead of taking that leap, decided to wait and see. | 而不是跳跃, 决定等待和看。 |
| 138 | And millions of people who have simply stopped believing | 数百万不再相信的人 |
| 139 | that any government will last long enough to change their lives. | 任何政府都会改变他们的生活 |
| 140 | Tonight, side proposition asks you to do it all over again. | 今晚 副提议要求你再做一次 |
| 141 | So let's be very clear about what's at stake. | 因此,让我们非常清楚地说明利害关系。 |
| 142 | This motion does not ask whether you are disappointed in this government. | 这个动议并不问您是否对这个政府感到失望. |
| 143 | It does not ask whether you'd have picked a different Chancellor | 它不问您是否选了另一个总理 |
| 144 | or a different Prime Minister. | 或者另一个总理 |
| 145 | Disappointment is a natural part of democratic politics. | 失望是民主政治的自然组成部分. |
| 146 | If it were grounds for no confidence, | 如果这是没有信心的理由 |
| 147 | no government would ever have survived a Thursday night debate in this chamber. | 任何政府都不可能幸存 星期四晚上在这个会议厅的辩论。 |
| 148 | This motion asks you to declare that you have no confidence at all, | 这个动议要求你宣布 你完全没有信心, |
| 149 | that this government has lost the right to govern, | 政府失去了治理权, |
| 150 | the ability to govern, and the trust to govern. | 治理的能力, 和信任治理。 |
| 151 | That is an extraordinary claim, | 这是一个非常的要求, |
| 152 | and tonight I will put forward three arguments to suggest the contrary. | 今晚我将提出三个论点来提出相反的意见。 |
| 153 | First, this is a government that delivers. | 首先,这是一个政府提供。 |
| 154 | Tonight, the proposition is asking you to reject a government | 今晚的提议是请你拒绝政府 |
| 155 | that has given millions to the lowest paid workers in a pay rise, | 使工资上涨的最低工资工人达到数百万, |
| 156 | a government that is ending exploitative zero-hours contracts, | 一个正在结束剥削性零小时合同的政府, |
| 157 | and a government that has made private schools pay their fair share | 一个让私立学校支付公平份额的政府 |
| 158 | so that state schools could get theirs as well. | 这样国立学校也能拿到他们的 |
| 159 | Second, this is a government with a mandate, | 第二,这是一个政府 有任务, |
| 160 | elected with one of the largest majorities in modern history, | 以现代史上最大多数之一当选, |
| 161 | a mandate that doesn't expire simply because our political opponents | 任务不会因为政治对手而过期 |
| 162 | don't like the person in Downing Street. | 不喜欢唐宁街的人 |
| 163 | And third, the alternative, it's not perfection. | 第三,选择,它不是完美的。 |
| 164 | It's more chaos, it's more churn, | 更乱,更 . |
| 165 | and a return to the very same people who broke the country in the first place. | 并回到那些 破坏国家的人身边 |
| 166 | But before I make that case, | 但在我做这个案子之前 |
| 167 | it falls upon me to introduce the speakers on side proposition. | 我有责任向各位介绍发言者的副提议。 |
| 168 | Now, you have just heard from the wonderful Arafat Esai, | 现在,你刚刚从伟大的阿拉法特 以赛, |
| 169 | a second year history and politics student at Merton College, | 默顿学院第二年历史和政治学生, |
| 170 | and president-elect of the Oxford University Conservative Association. | 和牛津大学保守党协会当选主席。 |
| 171 | Now, in my experience, Araf is a man of many talents. | 依我的经验,阿拉夫是一个多才多艺的人。 |
| 172 | However, using a toaster is not one of them. | 然而,使用烤面包机并不是其中之一. |
| 173 | I'm told that the first time he encountered one, | 我被告知,他第一次遇到一个, |
| 174 | he turned to the people around him and completely seriously asked, | 他转过身去问周围的人, |
| 175 | what is this and what does it do? | 这是干什么的? |
| 176 | The washing machine, I gather, was quite similar, | 洗衣机,我想,是相当相似的, |
| 177 | which is why I'm a little surprised to see him on side proposition tonight, | 这就是为什么我有点惊讶 看到他今晚的附带提议, |
| 178 | arguing that he could run the country better than the current government | 认为他比现政府更能管理国家 |
| 179 | when he can't yet run a spin cycle. | 当他还不能运行旋转周期。 |
| 180 | Speaking second, we will hear from Andrew Rosendell, | 第二,安德鲁·罗森戴尔的消息 |
| 181 | member of parliament for Romford since 2001. | 自2001年起担任隆福议员. |
| 182 | Now, in January, Andrew unfortunately lost confidence in the Conservative Party | 现在,一月份,安德鲁 不幸地失去了对保守党的信心 |
| 183 | and defected to reform UK. | 并叛逃到改革英国。 |
| 184 | The Conservatives returned the favour for Andrew | 保守党还给安德鲁 |
| 185 | by changing the locks on his office. | 通过改变他的办公室锁。 |
| 186 | And when Andrew took them to the High Court, what did the judge say? | 当安德鲁把他们带到高等法院时,法官怎么说? |
| 187 | The judge called his case intrinsically weak. | 法官称他的案件本质上软弱无力。 |
| 188 | So it's fitting that tonight, | 所以,这是合适的今晚, |
| 189 | Andrew is back trying to evict someone else from their building, | 安德鲁想把别人赶出他们的大楼 |
| 190 | but this time Downing Street. | 但这次是唐宁街 |
| 191 | I just hope his case this evening is a little bit stronger | 我只希望今晚他的案子更强一点 |
| 192 | than the one he took to the High Court. | 而不是他送上高等法院的那个 |
| 193 | Now, speaking third, we will hear from Gideon Amos, | 现在,第三,我们将听到吉迪恩·阿莫斯, |
| 194 | Liberal Democrat MP for Taunton and Wellington | 塔恩顿和惠灵顿的自由民主党议员 |
| 195 | and also his party spokesperson on housing. | 以及他的政党住房问题发言人。 |
| 196 | Gideon has spent his whole career in planning, | 吉迪恩在规划中度过了整个职业生涯 |
| 197 | trying to get things built. | 试图让事情建起来。 |
| 198 | So it's a real change of pace to see him here tonight, | 所以今晚见到他 速度真的变了 |
| 199 | trying to knock things down. | 试图击倒事物。 |
| 200 | But then again, Gideon's party last led a government over a century ago. | 但后来,吉迪恩的党最后一次领导一个多世纪前的政府. |
| 201 | So opposing things is very much their natural habit. | 所以对立的事物在很大程度上是他们的自然习惯. |
| 202 | And although I noticed that tonight, | 虽然我注意到今晚 |
| 203 | he's sharing a bench yet again with a Conservative. | 他又和保守党人共用一个长凳 |
| 204 | Gideon, how did that work out for you last time? | 吉迪恩,你上次怎么样? |
| 205 | Now, speaking fourth, we will hear from Lord Dominic Johnson, | 现在,第四,我们将听到多米尼克・约翰逊勋爵, |
| 206 | former co-chair of the Conservative Party. | 曾任保守党联合主席. |
| 207 | Now, Lord Johnson knows all about losing confidence. | 现在,约翰逊勋爵知道 失去信心的一切。 |
| 208 | In 2022, Rishi Sunak sacked him after 26 days in office. | 2022年,里希·苏纳克在任职26天后解雇了他. |
| 209 | As co-chairman, he has said about winning back the public's trust | 作为联席主席 他说过要赢得公众的信任 |
| 210 | with a series of viral videos alongside members | 和成员一起播放一系列病毒视频 |
| 211 | of the Oxford University Conservative Association. | 牛津大学保守党协会成员。 |
| 212 | Now, I've had a look at the reviews and they were mixed. | 现在,我看了一眼这些评论, 它们是混合的。 |
| 213 | One viewer described them as beyond parody. | 一位观众形容他们超越了讽刺。 |
| 214 | Another said, this lot couldn't organize a hot bath, | 另一个说,这批人 无法组织一个热水浴, |
| 215 | let alone run a country. | 更不用说管理一个国家了 |
| 216 | So Lord Johnson is well qualified to speak on a motion of no confidence. | 所以约翰逊勋爵完全有资格就不信任动议发言. |
| 217 | He's more just used to being on the receiving end of one. | 他更习惯在接收端一个。 |
| 218 | 现在,最后,我们将听到 Anya Piersetska。 | |
| 219 | Anya has run for elections in the University Conservative Association. | 安亚参加过大学保守党协会的选举. |
| 220 | She is a communications officer of the Oxford Liberal Association. | 她是牛津自由协会的通信官员. |
| 221 | And I've been told she worked over the summer for a Labour MP. | 我听说她暑假为工党议员工作 |
| 222 | Now, I'm told reformer, probably the ones who are going to be next to her, | 现在,我被告知,改革者, 可能那些谁会 身边她, |
| 223 | it's a real honor to have Anya here tonight, | 今晚安雅能来真是荣幸 |
| 224 | declaring no confidence in the government. | 宣布对政府不信任 |
| 225 | Because if there's one thing Anya knows, it's how to lose confidence in a party. | 因为如果安雅知道一件事 那就是如何对派对失去信心 |
| 226 | She's done it three times. | 她已经做了三次。 |
| 227 | And honestly, Anya, if tonight doesn't go your way, the Green Party are next. | 说实话,安雅,如果今晚不走你的路, 绿党是下一个。 |
| 228 | Mr. President, these are your guests and they are most welcome. | 主席先生,这是你的客人,非常欢迎。 |
| 229 | So let's start with what this government has actually done. | 因此,让我们从这个政府实际所做的开始。 |
| 230 | The proposition will tell you that this government has achieved nothing. | 这个提议会告诉你 这个政府一无所获 |
| 231 | But the best way to judge any government is to ask what has changed. | 但评判任何政府的最佳方式是问,有什么变化. |
| 232 | For 14 years, millions of people were stuck on exploitative zero hours contracts, | 14年来,数百万人 被困在剥削性零小时合同, |
| 233 | never knowing whether they'd get enough shifts to pay the rent. | 永远不知道他们是否能 得到足够的轮班支付租金。 |
| 234 | This government is ending them and giving the lowest paid workers a pay rise. | 本届政府正在结束他们,并给予工资最低的工人加薪. |
| 235 | For 14 years, the conservatives defended tax breaks for private schools, | 14年来,保守派为私立学校的减税辩护, |
| 236 | while state schools were left crumbling, their roofs were falling in, | 州立学校倒塌 屋顶倒塌 |
| 237 | and funding was being cut by the day. | 资金被削减了一天。 |
| 238 | This government acted, ending that tax break and putting more money | 这个政府采取行动, 结束了减税 并投入更多的钱 |
| 239 | back into our state schools. | 回到我们的国立学校 |
| 240 | For decades, young people have been told they're old enough to work, | 几十年来,年轻人被告知 他们已经够老工作, |
| 241 | old enough to serve in the army, but not old enough to vote. | 年迈足以在军中服役,但年老不足以投票. |
| 242 | This government is changing that, giving 16 and 17-year-olds the right to vote in elections. | 本届政府正在改变这一点,赋予16岁和17岁的人选举权. |
| 243 | And in just the first few weeks of this new government, | 在新政府的头几周里, |
| 244 | the Prime Minister took VAT off electricity bills, | 总理取消了电费 |
| 245 | a direct, immediate measure to ease the cost of living on families. | 一项直接、立即的措施,以减轻家庭的生活费用。 |
| 246 | In a minute, Leighton. | 等一下,莱顿 |
| 247 | None of these are slogans. | 这些都不是口号。 |
| 248 | Each one is a decision this government has taken that the last one simply wouldn't. | 每一个都是政府的决定 最后一个是不会的 |
| 249 | And each one shows a government with a clear sense of direction, ready to serve. | 并且每一个都向一个有明确方向感的政府展示,准备服务. |
| 250 | Now, you may think it should go further. | 现在,你可能认为应该更进一步。 |
| 251 | You may think it should go faster. | 你可能会认为它应该走更快。 |
| 252 | That's a debate worth having. | 这是值得辩论的。 |
| 253 | But it is a debate about how much to do, | 但是,这是一场辩论 关于如何做, |
| 254 | not whether you have entirely lost confidence in this government. | 而不是你是否对政府完全失去信心 |
| 255 | Second, this government has a mandate. | 第二,这个政府有任务。 |
| 256 | The proposition's favourite line, which they'll tell you tonight, | 他们今晚会告诉你 |
| 257 | is that Andy Burnham is a Prime Minister nobody voted for. | 安迪·伯纳姆是首相 没人支持他 |
| 258 | But it misunderstands how our democracy works. | 但它误解了我们的民主是如何运作的。 |
| 259 | In this country, we don't vote for a Prime Minister. | 在这个国家,我们不投票支持总理. |
| 260 | We vote for an MP. | 我们投票支持一名议员。 |
| 261 | And the party that wins the majority in the Commons forms a government. | 而赢得下议院多数的政党则组成政府. |
| 262 | In 2024, the British people gave Labour one of the largest majorities in history. | 2024年,英国人民授予工党历史上最大的多数党之一. |
| 263 | That majority has not gone anywhere. | 多数人没有去任何地方。 |
| 264 | In a minute, Colby. | 一分钟内,科尔比。 |
| 265 | That majority has not gone anywhere. | 多数人没有去任何地方。 |
| 266 | Labour MPs have elected a new Prime Minister. | 工党议员选出新总理. |
| 267 | And quite frankly, the government still commands the confidence at the House of Commons. | 坦率地说,政府仍然掌握着下议院的信任。 |
| 268 | Now, changing... | 现在,改变... |
| 269 | Go on, Jake. | 来吧,杰克。 |
| 270 | If you're going to argue that this government maintains the mandate from 2024, | 如果你认为政府从2024年起 维持了这一任务 |
| 271 | which I think is the correct constitutional interpretation, | 我认为这是正确的宪法解释, |
| 272 | are you also up here defending the Starmer government in addition to Mr Burroughs? | 除了Burroughs先生之外 你还在这里为星际政府辩护吗? |
| 273 | Now, Jake, you'll have noticed that some of the initial points I made earlier on | 现在,杰克,你会注意到一些 我之前提出的一些要点 |
| 274 | were achievements under the Starmer government. | 是星际争霸政府下的成就 |
| 275 | Ending the VAT tax breaks for private schools. | 结束民办学校增值税减税. |
| 276 | That was a Starmer achievement. | 那是星际迷航的成就 |
| 277 | Some of the work on planning reform, a Starmer achievement. | 一些规划改革的工作,一个星际成就. |
| 278 | The work on Great British Energy, a Starmer achievement. | "大英能源"的作品,一个星际成就. |
| 279 | I'm not going to stand here and say that the two years of the Starmer government | 我不会站在这里说 两年的星际政府 |
| 280 | were a complete waste of time. | 完全是浪费时间。 |
| 281 | I tell you what, they were much better than the 14 years that we had under the Tories. | 告诉你,他们比我们在Tories的14年要好得多 |
| 282 | And now, Leighton, I've done one. | 现在,莱顿,我已经做了一个。 |
| 283 | Come on in a minute. | 马上就来 |
| 284 | Come in a minute. | 一会儿就来 |
| 285 | And let me tell you, Leighton, if you're so enthusiastic, | 让我告诉你,莱顿,如果你这么热情 |
| 286 | you will get your say in 2029 along with the other voters. | 你会在2029年得到你的发言权 与其他选民。 |
| 287 | That's when the British people will decide whether this government earns another term, | 这时英国人民会决定 这个政府是否赚到另一个任期, |
| 288 | not through a Twitter poll, not through this motion. | 不是通过推特民意调查 也不是通过这个动议 |
| 289 | Until then, this government governs with the exact same authority. | 在此之前,这个政府以完全相同的权威来管理. |
| 290 | You don't have to like the prime minister. | 你不必喜欢首相 |
| 291 | You do not have to agree with every decision he takes. | 你不必同意他所做的一切决定 |
| 292 | But disliking a government is not the same as it having no right to govern, | 但不爱政府 并不一样 它没有治理的权利, |
| 293 | which is what side proposition will tell you this evening. | 这是今晚的副提议 |
| 294 | And third, let's turn to the alternative. | 第三,我们转而采取另一种方式。 |
| 295 | What would happen if this motion passed? | 如果这个动议通过会怎么样? |
| 296 | I started tonight by saying seven prime ministers in 10 years. | 今晚我首先说 十年内有七位首相 |
| 297 | I want to come back to that because that's the real choice in front of you. | 我想回到你面前,因为这是真正的选择。 |
| 298 | If you vote for this motion, you're not voting for a better government. | 如果你投票支持这个动议,你不会投票支持一个更好的政府. |
| 299 | You're voting for no confidence. | 你是在投不信任票吗 |
| 300 | And then what? | 然后怎样? |
| 301 | The proposition owes you an answer to that question. | 这个提议需要你回答这个问题。 |
| 302 | And I don't think we heard one from Arav, and I don't think we'll hear it this evening. | 我想我们没有听到一个来自阿拉夫, 我认为我们今晚不会听到它。 |
| 303 | Is it going to be the Conservatives, the party that spent 14 years in power | 是保守党 执政14年的党 |
| 304 | that delivered record-long NHS waiting lists, schools crumbling, | 提供了创纪录的NHS等待名单, 学校崩溃, |
| 305 | and a mini-budget that sent mortgage rates soaring? | 和小型预算 导致抵押贷款率飙升? |
| 306 | They had their chance, and the voters gave their verdict two years ago. | 他们有他们的机会,选民们在两年前作出了判决。 |
| 307 | Is it Reform UK, a party? | 是英国改革党吗? |
| 308 | Fantastic, Leighton, but it is a party that is very good at promising you everything. | 棒极了,莱顿,但它是一个聚会 非常好的保证你的一切。 |
| 309 | Leighton is enthused, but he has no answers to the real issues of the day. | 莱顿被迷住了,但他对当今真正的问题没有答案. |
| 310 | Now, if it's not the Conservatives, if it's not Reform UK, | 如果不是保守党,如果不是改革英国 |
| 311 | is it simply another change of leader, another reshuffle, | 这是否只是领导人的又一次变换,又一次改组? |
| 312 | another supposedly called reset? | 另一个所谓的重置? |
| 313 | Because that is what this country has had for well over a decade, | 因为那是这个国家十多年来所经历的 |
| 314 | and we have seen exactly where it leads. | 我们已经看到它的确切走向。 |
| 315 | Every time a government is torn down, plans are dropped, investment is put on hold, | 每次政府被瓦解 计划被放弃 投资被搁置 |
| 316 | people trust politics even less than they already do, | 人们对政治的信任甚至比他们已经做的还要少 |
| 317 | public services are reorganised, reorganised again when we have a new administration, | 公共服务被重组,再重组 当我们有了新的政府, |
| 318 | and the problems that this country faces, they need years to fix, | 以及这个国家所面临的问题, 他们需要多年来解决, |
| 319 | our crumbling schools, record NHS waiting lists, social care, | 我们的学校破碎, 记录NHS等候名单, 社会关怀, |
| 320 | it never gets the time it needs. | 它永远得不到它需要的时间。 |
| 321 | Instability is not a neutral choice, it has a cost, | 不稳定不是一个中立的选择,它有代价, |
| 322 | and what side proposition would do is put the cost on ordinary people. | 和什么侧面建议会做的 是把成本 给普通人。 |
| 323 | So when side proposition this evening asks you to declare no confidence, | 所以,当今晚的副提议 要求你宣布不信任, |
| 324 | ask what voting for side proposition would actually achieve. | 问对侧面建议投什么票会实现什么 |
| 325 | It wouldn't fix NHS waiting lists, it wouldn't build a single home, | 它不会修补NHS等待名单 也不会建造一个单一的家 |
| 326 | it would simply return this country to the very same merry-go-round | 它只会让这个国家回到同样的旋转木马 |
| 327 | which we've been on for the past 14 years. | 过去14年我们一直在做 |
| 328 | At some point, a government has to be given the time to do the job, | 某个时候,一个政府需要时间做这个工作, |
| 329 | this government is delivering, | 这个政府正在提供, |
| 330 | and it should be afforded the opportunity to see it through. | 并且应该给它一个机会 来完成它。 |
| 331 | Now, I won't pretend this government has an easy road ahead, | 现在,我不会假装政府有一条轻松的道路, |
| 332 | but having problems is not the same thing as having failed. | 但有问题与失败不同 |
| 333 | The question tonight is not whether this government faces difficult choices, | 今晚的问题不是 政府是否面临艰难的选择 |
| 334 | every government does, every government will face challenges. | 每个政府都会面对挑战 |
| 335 | It is whether it has lost the right and the trust of the people to govern, | 是否失去了人民管理的权利与信任, |
| 336 | it simply has not. | 它根本就没有。 |
| 337 | This government is raising wages, it's protecting workers, | 这个政府正在提高工资, 它保护工人, |
| 338 | investing in state schools, giving young people a voice in our democracy. | 投资国立学校,让年轻人在我们民主中拥有发言权。 |
| 339 | It has a mandate from the British people, | 它由英国人民授权 |
| 340 | we should allow this government to use it. | 我们应该允许政府使用它 |
| 341 | The proposition are the wrecking crew, | 提议是拆船员 |
| 342 | they're telling you to tear it up, | 他们叫你把它撕掉 |
| 343 | they're telling you to start it again for the eighth time in 10 years. | 他们要你10年来第8次重新开始 |
| 344 | We're asking you to allow this government the chance to deliver. | 我们要求你让政府有机会交付 |
| 345 | Andy Burnham只是当了几个月总理 | |
| 346 | why would we now declare no confidence, | 为什么我们现在宣布 不信任, |
| 347 | go back to the chaos we saw over 14 years of Tory government? | 回到我们所看到的14年托里政府的混乱? |
| 348 | The time is now for this government to deliver as it has been, | 现在是时候让政府如愿以偿了 |
| 349 | and that should continue. | 这应该继续下去。 |
| 350 | I urge you to reject this motion, thank you. | 我敦促你拒绝这个动议,谢谢。 |
| 351 | Your fans are leaving, Harry. | 你的粉丝要走了,哈利 |
| 352 | I thank Harry for that fine speech, | 我感谢哈利的精彩演讲, |
| 353 | and now to continue the case for the proposition, | 现在继续这个提议的理由, |
| 354 | I call upon Andrew Rosendell MP. | 我请安德鲁·罗森德尔议员发言。 |
| 355 | Thank you, Mr. President, my Lords, fellow Members of Parliament, | 谢谢你,总统先生,大人们,议员们, |
| 356 | ladies and gentlemen. | 女士们,先生们。 |
| 357 | In the short space of 10 years, | 在短短的十年时间里, |
| 358 | as has been said already this evening, | 正如今晚已经说过的, |
| 359 | this country has been led by no fewer than seven different Prime Ministers. | 这个国家的领导者不少于七位总理。 |
| 360 | Although as unprecedented as that may appear to us in the 21st century, | 虽然这在21世纪是前所未有的 |
| 361 | our current political climate is not without historical parallels. | 我们当前的政治气候并非没有历史的相似之处。 |
| 362 | Whether that's public confidence in the institutions of the dying Roman Republic, | 不管这是否是公众对即将灭亡的罗马共和国体制的信心, |
| 363 | the weakness of the pre-revolutionary French state | 法国革命前国家的弱点 |
| 364 | overcoming a ballooning national debt and crippling cost of living, | 克服沉重的国债和沉重的生活成本, |
| 365 | sounds familiar, | 听起来很熟悉 |
| 366 | or at home here in the UK between 1916 and 1924 | 1916年至1924年间在英国的家中 |
| 367 | when we endured five Prime Ministers in eight years | 我们8年来忍受了5位总理 |
| 368 | as the old political settlement disintegrated | 使旧的政治解决办法瓦解 |
| 369 | and the Labour Party emerged to challenge the then political establishment. | 和工党出现挑战 当时的政治体制。 |
| 370 | Now, I'm conscious that historical analogies have their limits, | 现在,我知道历史类比有其极限, |
| 371 | Andy Burnham's rapid descent from northern provinces with his legions behind him | Andy Burnham带着他的军团 迅速从北方省份离开 |
| 372 | may have brought civil war to the Labour Party, | 可能给工党带来了内战, |
| 373 | but he has hardly crossed the Rubicon. | 但他几乎没穿过鲁比孔河 |
| 374 | And to my sincerest hopes, | 我最真诚的希望是, |
| 375 | he will not be sending us counter-revolutionaries to the foot of the guillotine. | 他不会把反革命分子送到断头台的脚下 |
| 376 | However, I didn't know you're in favour of capital punishment, my friend. | 但我不知道你赞成死刑 我的朋友 |
| 377 | However, and no offence to my Liberal colleagues here this evening, | 不过,我今晚在这里的自由党同事没有恶意 |
| 378 | we are, I believe, witnessing a complete reshaping of the political order | 我相信,我们正在目睹政治秩序的彻底改变 |
| 379 | here in the United Kingdom, | 在英国, |
| 380 | which is last century saw the destruction of the Liberal Party, as we will recall. | 正如我们记得的那样,上个世纪的自由党被摧毁。 |
| 381 | The electorate did not simply abandon the Liberal Party then | 选民们当时并没有放弃自由党 |
| 382 | and go for the Conservatives, it began to look for something different. | 并且去保守党, 它开始寻找不同的东西。 |
| 383 | And I believe we are witnessing something very similar today. | 我相信我们今天正在目睹类似的事情。 |
| 384 | Now, since my election to the House of Commons in 2001, 25 years ago, | 自从我2001年当选下议院议员以来 25年前 |
| 385 | I have to admit I have had little confidence in virtually every government, | 我必须承认 我对几乎每个政府都没什么信心 |
| 386 | let alone the current Labour government. | 更别说现任工党政府了 |
| 387 | However, the problem with this government is not merely the red-blooded socialism | 然而,这个政府的问题不仅仅是红血红的社会主义 |
| 388 | that flows through their veins. | 流经他们的血管。 |
| 389 | The real problem is that faced with a Britain that is wounded and broken, | 真正的问题是面对一个受伤和崩溃的英国, |
| 390 | it offers little more than a sticking plaster when what this country truly requires | 当这个国家真正需要的时候,它能提供的只是一块石膏 |
| 391 | is a serious restoration and a period of national rejuvenation. | 是一个严肃的恢复和民族复兴时期。 |
| 392 | I agree with the Prime Minister when he says we need to turn the clock back. | 我同意总理说的 我们得把时间调回去 |
| 393 | Yet he has either miscalibrated his time machine | 然而,他要么错误地调整了他的时光机 |
| 394 | or he is an even greater reactionary than myself. | 或者他比我还反动 |
| 395 | I shall say 1997 is the year, | 我要说1997年是一年 |
| 396 | so we may begin to unpick the constitutional vandalism | 这样我们就可以揭开 宪法破坏 |
| 397 | that was responsibility of that Labour government, | 这是工党政府的责任, |
| 398 | making, I believe, our country ungovernable. | 我认为,我们的国家无法治理。 |
| 399 | He would say, of course, 1975. | 他说,当然,1975年。 |
| 400 | There will be a few people, very few in this debating chamber, | 有几个人,在这个辩论室里, |
| 401 | who will remember the 1970s. | 他将记住1970年代。 |
| 402 | I just about remember the 1970s. | 我只记得1970年代 |
| 403 | And those who do will know about the strikes that ground this country down. | 而那些知道袭击的国家的人 将会知道这些袭击使这个国家崩溃 |
| 404 | They will remember the stranglehold of the militant trade unions. | 他们会记得好战工会的扼杀 |
| 405 | They will remember the inflation climbing above 25 per cent. | 他们将记得通货膨胀率超过25%。 |
| 406 | They will remember the three-day week. | 他们会记得这三天的一周。 |
| 407 | They will remember an economy in terminal decline. | 他们会记得经济末期衰退。 |
| 408 | Unemployment massively on the rise. | 失业率急剧上升。 |
| 409 | Investment drifting abroad. | 投资漂移国外. |
| 410 | And a country that had contrived to become both poorer | 以及一个曾经试图 变得贫穷的国家 |
| 411 | and more heavily governed at the very same time. | 更严格的管理 同时。 |
| 412 | Sounds familiar, does it not? | 听起来很熟悉,不是吗? |
| 413 | Britain was, of course, then known as the sick man of Europe. | 当然,英国当时被称为欧洲的病人。 |
| 414 | Call me a pessimist, Mr President, | 说我是悲观主义者 总统先生 |
| 415 | but I am not convinced that in an era to which, | 但我不相信在一个时代, |
| 416 | that is an era to which we should aspire to today, | 那是我们今天应当向往的时代, |
| 417 | if you look back at that calamity of the 1970s. | 如果你回顾1970年代的灾难 |
| 418 | What astounds me most is that the Prime Minister appears | 最让我吃惊的是,总理出现 |
| 419 | determined to emulate the worst qualities of both sides of British politics | 决心效仿英国政治双方最差的品质 |
| 420 | during that 1970s period. | 1970年代期间。 |
| 421 | On one hand, we see the instincts of Harold Wilson and James Callaghan. | 一方面,我们看到哈罗德·威尔逊和詹姆斯·卡拉汉的本能. |
| 422 | The faith in an ever larger state, | 在一个更大的状态中的信仰, |
| 423 | corporatism, union power, | 企业主义、工会权力、 |
| 424 | and the belief that every problem can ultimately be solved | 相信每个问题都终究能解决 |
| 425 | by another nationalised institution. | 其他国有化机构。 |
| 426 | On the other hand, we see the euro-federalist trades of Edward Heath. | 另一方面,我们看到爱德华·希思的欧元财阀贸易. |
| 427 | That would have made many in the Labour Party, | 这样工党就有很多人 |
| 428 | all those years ago, recoil. | 这么多年前,后坐力。 |
| 429 | And remember, in those days, | 记住,在那些日子, |
| 430 | the Labour Party was opposed to the then common market. | 当时工党反对当时的共同市场. |
| 431 | So here, apparently, is a Prime Minister | 很明显,这里是总理 |
| 432 | whose grand political synthesis, | 伟大的政治综合, |
| 433 | the economics of the 1970s Labour Party, | 1970年代工党的经济学, |
| 434 | combined with the European policy of the 1970s Conservative Party. | 与1970年代保守党的欧洲政策相结合。 |
| 435 | The great political argument of the last half century | 过去半个世纪的伟大政治争论 |
| 436 | has been whether Britain should trust the state | 英国是否应该相信国家 |
| 437 | to command economic life | 掌握经济生活 |
| 438 | or trust the individuals and businesses | 或信任个人和企业 |
| 439 | to create wealth and opportunity. | 创造财富和机会。 |
| 440 | Of course, it was Margaret Thatcher and Keith Joseph | 当然是玛格丽特·撒切尔和基思·约瑟夫 |
| 441 | who understood that the government does not create wealth. | 他们明白政府不会创造财富 |
| 442 | It creates, the people themselves create wealth | 它创造,人民自己创造财富 |
| 443 | and the government need to assist the people | 政府需要帮助人民 |
| 444 | and businesses and enterprise to do just that. | 和企业和企业 这样做。 |
| 445 | That was the lesson we learned in the 1970s. | 这是我们在1970年代学到的教训。 |
| 446 | It would, ladies and gentlemen, be a grave mistake | 女士们先生们,那将是一个严重的错误 |
| 447 | to forget that lesson today. | 忘记今天的教训 |
| 448 | And I agree again with the Prime Minister, believe it or not, | 我再次同意首相的意见 无论你信不信 |
| 449 | that power is too heavily concentrated in this country. | 权力过于集中在这个国家。 |
| 450 | Yet his solution is, wait for it, | 然而他的解决方案是,等待它, |
| 451 | number 10 North. | 北十号 |
| 452 | What about number 10 Scotland? | 苏格兰10号呢? |
| 453 | What about number 10 Northern Ireland? | 北爱尔兰10号呢? |
| 454 | What about number 10 Essex? | 埃塞克斯10号呢? |
| 455 | And I say that as a proud Essex boy. | 我以一个骄傲的艾塞克斯男孩的身份这么说。 |
| 456 | I'm glad to see there are others here today. | 我很高兴今天这里还有其他人 |
| 457 | I should be looking forward to England's ancient capital | 我应该期待英格兰的古都 |
| 458 | of Colchester housing number 10 Essex. | 埃塞克斯第10号科尔切斯特住宅 |
| 459 | I look forward to that. | 我期待着这一点。 |
| 460 | I didn't realise that when he said he wants power | 我不知道当他说要权力时 |
| 461 | in every postcode that he only actually meant | 在每一个邮政编码中,他只是实际上的意思 |
| 462 | the postcode that actually, the only postcode | 唯一一个邮政编码 |
| 463 | that actually begins with the letter M. | 从字母M开始 |
| 464 | In all seriousness, my friends, | 非常严肃,我的朋友们, |
| 465 | this project is a total gimmick | 这个项目是一个总的奇数 |
| 466 | and does the sum total of zero to empower local communities. | 并且将总计为零用于增强当地社区的能力。 |
| 467 | It's the same civil servants | 是同一个公务员 |
| 468 | travelling up to Manchester on public purse | 用公共钱包前往曼彻斯特 |
| 469 | to exert a whitehall view of local communities, | 向当地社区表达白宫观点, |
| 470 | which they can equally do from Westminster. | 他们同样可以从威斯敏斯特做。 |
| 471 | After all, there is a reason why nations | 毕竟,各国有理由 |
| 472 | have national capitals. | 设有国家首都。 |
| 473 | What we need are empowered local councils | 我们需要的是赋予地方议会权力 |
| 474 | manned by local people who understand | 由当地人负责 |
| 475 | the needs of local communities | 地方社区的需要 |
| 476 | and who are genuinely accountable to local people | 真正对当地人民负责的人 |
| 477 | at the ballot box. | 在选票箱。 |
| 478 | That is the very different, | 这是非常不同的, |
| 479 | that is very different from moving | 这和移动有很大不同 |
| 480 | the machinery of whitehall out of London | 离开伦敦的怀特霍尔机器 |
| 481 | miles away from the capital. | 距京城数里. |
| 482 | On a nationwide level, the prime minister, | 在全国范围内,总理, |
| 483 | like the secretary general of an Eastern European | 像东欧的秘书长一样 |
| 484 | regime, which some of us here will remember | 我们中有些人会记得 |
| 485 | what they were like in the 70s and 80s. | 70年代和80年代他们的样子 |
| 486 | During those beloved 70s, we saw much of that. | 70年代,我们看到很多这样的事 |
| 487 | They promised things like a 12-year plan, | 他们答应了12年计划 |
| 488 | a new national care service, | 新的国家护理服务; |
| 489 | a fundamental change to pensions and electoral reform. | 对养恤金和选举改革进行根本改革。 |
| 490 | Yet the British people elected someone else | 英国人民选举了别人 |
| 491 | to captain HMS United Kingdom | 联合王国 |
| 492 | only for his crew to stage a mutiny | 只让他的手下发动兵变 |
| 493 | and replace him midway on the voyage. | 在中途替换他 |
| 494 | The former prime minister now abandoned ship | 前首相现在弃船了 |
| 495 | and his successor is trying to change course. | 而他的继任者正试图改变方向。 |
| 496 | He is held hostage by Stammer's manifesto | 他被史达默的宣言挟持 |
| 497 | and yet we are told there will be | 然而,我们被告知, |
| 498 | no general election until 2029. | 直到2029年才举行大选. |
| 499 | So what exactly are we being asked, | 那么我们到底要问什么? |
| 500 | I won't give way, I need to complete. | 我不会让位,我需要完成。 |
| 501 | So what exactly are we being asked | 所以,我们究竟被问到什么了 |
| 502 | to have confidence in? | 要有信心吗? |
| 503 | A government with a mandate, it did not win. | 一个有授权的政府,它没有获胜。 |
| 504 | Pursuing a programme, it did not write. | 执行方案时,它没有写信。 |
| 505 | Promising outcomes, it likely will not | 有希望的结果,它可能不会 |
| 506 | even be around to deliver. | 甚至在附近送货。 |
| 507 | At a time when economic growth remains fragile | 在经济增长仍然脆弱的时候 |
| 508 | and the welfare bill continues | 福利法案还在继续 |
| 509 | to place immense pressure on the public finances, | 对公共财政造成巨大压力, |
| 510 | the prime minister's answer appears to be | 首相的回答似乎是 |
| 511 | that just more of the same, more spending, | 更多同样的,更多的支出, |
| 512 | even more bureaucracy, another vast state monopoly | 更多的官僚主义,另一个巨大的国家垄断 |
| 513 | extending across something as all-encompassing | 横跨万象 |
| 514 | as social care. | 作为社会关怀。 |
| 515 | And perhaps that should not surprise us. | 也许这不应该让我们感到惊讶。 |
| 516 | After all, this is a prime minister | 毕竟这位是总理 |
| 517 | who has argued that social security | 声称社会保障 |
| 518 | is more important than national security. | 比国家安全更重要 |
| 519 | We often hear the mantra that the first duty | 我们经常听到第一个职责的口号 |
| 520 | of the government is the defence of the realm. | 捍卫国家是政府 |
| 521 | Andy Burnham的几个承诺之一 | |
| 522 | is already crumbling before our eyes. | 已经在我们眼前崩溃了 |
| 523 | His defence secretary, now chancellor, resigned | 他的国防部长,现在的总统辞职了 |
| 524 | because the government would not commit | 因为政府不会承诺 |
| 525 | to a spending of 3% of GDP on defence | 占国内生产总值3%的国防开支 |
| 526 | by 2030. | 在2030年之前。 |
| 527 | Then, having promised to explain | 然后,我答应解释 |
| 528 | how Britain would reach that target, | 英国会如何达到目标, |
| 529 | the prime minister appears ready to delay again | 总理似乎准备再次拖延 |
| 530 | the very review that was supposed to provide the answer. | 本来应该提供答案的回顾。 |
| 531 | And this uncertainty comes at a moment, | 而这种不确定性 出现在某一刻, |
| 532 | a dangerous moment for European security | 欧洲安全的危险时刻 |
| 533 | and also insecurity around the world. | 以及世界各地的不安全。 |
| 534 | 所以他做了什么? 他的错? So what did he do? | |
| 535 | His answer to that is to hand over the Shagos Islands | 他的答案是交出沙戈斯群岛 |
| 536 | at the cost of billions of pounds | 以数十亿英镑的价格 |
| 537 | and to deny the Shagossian people | 否认沙戈西亚人, |
| 538 | the right of self-determination. | 自决权。 |
| 539 | A total betrayal compared to the stance | 与立场相比完全背叛 |
| 540 | we have always rightly taken on Gibraltar | 我们一直正确对待直布罗陀 |
| 541 | and the Falkland Islands. | 和福克兰群岛。 |
| 542 | I'll tell you who has confidence | 我告诉你谁有自信 |
| 543 | in His Majesty's government, Mr. President, | 总统先生, |
| 544 | Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong-un, | 弗拉基米尔·普京,金正恩, |
| 545 | the Ayatollahs in Tehran and Hamas. | 在德黑兰和哈马斯的阿亚图拉人。 |
| 546 | The rest of us have rather more reason to be concerned. | 我们其他人更有理由感到关切。 |
| 547 | I certainly have no confidence in this government | 我对这个政府完全没有信心 |
| 548 | but I do have confidence in the United Kingdom | 但我对英国有信心 |
| 549 | and I have absolute confidence in the British people | 我对英国人民绝对有信心 |
| 550 | to make the right decision at the next election | 在下次选举中作出正确决定 |
| 551 | and to elect Reform UK and Nigel Farage | 并选举英国改革派和奈杰尔·法拉吉派 |
| 552 | as our next prime minister. | 作为我们的下一任总理。 |
| 553 | Thank you very much. | 谢谢 |
| 554 | I thank Mr. Rosendale MP for that fine speech. | 我感谢罗森代尔先生的出色发言。 |
| 555 | And now, to continue the case for the opposition, | 现在,为了继续维持反对派的立场, |
| 556 | I call upon Mr. Stephen Pound. | 我请斯蒂芬·庞德先生发言。 |
| 557 | Thank you very much indeed, Mr. President. | 主席先生,确实非常感谢你。 |
| 558 | And may I say, seldom in a long | 我可以说,很少在很长一段时间 |
| 559 | and utterly inglorious political career | 和完全不光彩的政治生涯 |
| 560 | have I had such a farrago, | 我有这么远道速滑, |
| 561 | did I say farrage, of utter nonsense. | 我说了离谱 胡说八道 |
| 562 | I have to say, I seem to remember | 我必须说,我好像记得 |
| 563 | that it was the leader of the Reform Party in Wales | 是威尔士改革党的领袖 |
| 564 | who's gone to prison for spying for Russia. | 他因为替俄国做间谍而入狱 |
| 565 | And I have to say, talk to me not about patriotism, my friend, | 我不得不说,不要跟我谈爱国主义,我的朋友 |
| 566 | because patriots are in all parties. | 因为爱国者在政党里 |
| 567 | I would never ever denigrate one party | 我永远不会贬低一方 |
| 568 | by saying they are the only party of patriotism. | 说他们是爱国主义的唯一政党。 |
| 569 | But can I just, first of all, | 但我可以,首先, |
| 570 | thank the Oxford Union tonight | 感谢牛津联合会今晚 |
| 571 | for your extraordinary generosity | 为你非凡的慷慨 |
| 572 | and your magnanimity | 还有你的宽宏大量 |
| 573 | in allowing a member of the Labour Party | 允许工党成员 |
| 574 | to enter these hallowed halls. | 进入这些圣堂。 |
| 575 | And you have, of course, | 你当然有 |
| 576 | had gone through this litany of previous prime ministers, | 经历了这一系列前总理, |
| 577 | I have to say, virtually all of whom | 我不得不说,几乎所有的人 |
| 578 | were actually educated here. | 其实在这里受过教育 |
| 579 | And unlike the present prime minister, of course, | 当然,与现任总理不同 |
| 580 | who is a Cambridge man, which, let's face it, | 他是一个剑桥人, 让我们面对它, |
| 581 | shows that he was a true man of the people. | 证明他是一个真正的人民的人。 |
| 582 | But can I just say, | 但我能说, |
| 583 | we've had a lot about the past. | 我们有过很多关于过去的事 |
| 584 | Now, we all know the future is always certain, | 现在,我们都知道未来总是确定的, |
| 585 | it's the past that's always changing. | 过去总是在改变 |
| 586 | But I'd like to actually ask you | 但我真的想问你 |
| 587 | to widen the horizon a bit | 以稍稍拓宽视野 |
| 588 | and look at a much, much bigger picture. | 看看一个大得多的画面 |
| 589 | There's something that pulls together | 有东西可以拉在一起 |
| 590 | all the issues that face us in the world today, | 当今世界面临的所有问题, |
| 591 | all the threats, all the problems, | 所有的威胁,所有的问题, |
| 592 | all the things that we regret | 我们后悔的一切 |
| 593 | so much about the world today. | 这么多关于今天的世界。 |
| 594 | And I'd like to say, | 我想说, |
| 595 | I have every confidence in His Majesty's government | 我对陛下的政府充满信心 |
| 596 | that they are the few people | 他们是少数的人, |
| 597 | who are addressing these issues. | 他们正在处理这些问题。 |
| 598 | Everybody knows that the hardest thing in politics | 人人都知道政治最难办的事 |
| 599 | is to actually put together the reality | 就是把现实拼凑起来 |
| 600 | that everybody knows what has to be done, | 人人都知道该怎么做 |
| 601 | but nobody knows how to get re-elected | 但没人知道如何连任 |
| 602 | while they're doing it. | 在他们这样做的时候 |
| 603 | And I think the problem we have in politics | 我认为我们的政治问题 |
| 604 | is this instant sugar rush, | 是这种即时的糖热, |
| 605 | this instant hit, | 这个瞬间击中, |
| 606 | the instant gratification | 即时满足 |
| 607 | that we've suffered in politics. | 我们在政治方面受了苦 |
| 608 | Now, much reference has been made | 现在,已经提到了很多 |
| 609 | to Mrs. Thatcher, the previous prime minister, | 给前首相撒切尔夫人 |
| 610 | and I think, in many ways, | 我认为,在许多方面, |
| 611 | a lot of the issues that we face today | 我们今天面临的许多问题 |
| 612 | come as a result of two of the terrible missteps | 是因为两个可怕的错误 |
| 613 | that we've taken in this country. | 我们在这个国家所接受的。 |
| 614 | One is so obvious I don't need to go through it. | 一个是那么明显 我不需要经过它。 |
| 615 | It's the absolute screaming disaster, | 这是绝对的尖叫灾难, |
| 616 | the absolute economic semi-suicide of Brexit. | 绝对的经济半自杀 Brexit。 |
| 617 | And I hope that those people | 我希望这些人 |
| 618 | who believe we're going to somehow start trading | 相信我们会开始交易 |
| 619 | with Mesopotamia and Cathay | 与美索不达米亚和卡赛 |
| 620 | and some imagined countries in the distant past | 和一些想象中的国家 在遥远的过去 |
| 621 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}意识到它是如此强大 | |
| 622 | to stand together with our friends, | 和我们的朋友站在一起, |
| 623 | our fellow Europeans, | 我们的欧洲同胞, |
| 624 | in an increasingly dangerous way. | 越来越危险 |
| 625 | Leaving aside Brexit for a moment, | 别管布莱克西特了 |
| 626 | which, Mr. President, is a subject maybe for another night, | 主席先生,这也许是一个话题 一个晚上, |
| 627 | what I'd like to say is | 我想说的是 |
| 628 | what we did in the 1980s | 我们在1980年代所做的 |
| 629 | was such a disaster, | 真是一场灾难 |
| 630 | so corrosive to the social structure of this nation, | 对这个国家的社会结构如此腐蚀, |
| 631 | to the cement that binds us together as a society, | 与凝结 我们作为一个社会, |
| 632 | as a community, | 作为一个社区, |
| 633 | that we are still feeling the dreadful pains | 我们仍然感受到可怕的痛苦 |
| 634 | about the hangover from the awful period. | 关于宿醉 从可怕的时期。 |
| 635 | What happened in that period affects us all today. | 在此期间发生的事情影响到今天的我们所有人。 |
| 636 | Now, it would be crude and easy for me to go through a litany | 现在,这将是粗糙和容易 我走过一升 |
| 637 | of what is absolutely bloody marvelous | 绝对是绝妙的 |
| 638 | about the Labour Party | 关于工党 |
| 639 | and what is simply awful about the other parties. | 而其他政党的可怕之处何在 |
| 640 | But I'm not going to insult your intelligence by that. | 但我不会以此来侮辱你的智力 |
| 641 | I'm actually going to ask you | 其实我要问你 |
| 642 | to look at the biggest, the broad horizon here. | 看看这里最大的 广阔的地平线 |
| 643 | What we did in the 1980s | 我们在1980年代所做的 |
| 644 | was, in Harold McMillan's words, | 用哈罗德·麦克米兰的话来说 |
| 645 | selling the family silver. | 卖家银. |
| 646 | What we did is we destroyed the cohesion, | 我们所做的就是摧毁了凝聚力, |
| 647 | the social community that actually binds us together. | 社会团体将我们凝聚在一起 |
| 648 | And without that social cohesion, | 没有这种社会凝聚力, |
| 649 | we don't get the productivity in the country, | 我们没有得到国家的生产力, |
| 650 | we don't get the social status. | 我们没有得到社会地位。 |
| 651 | Crime rises. | 犯罪率上升。 |
| 652 | And look at the high streets today. | 且看今日高街. |
| 653 | Is that you, Leighton? | 是你吗,莱顿? |
| 654 | I've heard of you. | 我听说过你。 |
| 655 | Do you think, seriously, that it is cohesive | 你认真的认为它有凝聚力吗? |
| 656 | to bring in millions of migrants, | 带来数百万移民, |
| 657 | many of hundreds of thousands illegally, | 数十万非法, |
| 658 | and many legally as well, | 以及许多法律, |
| 659 | from all parts of the world, different cultures, | 从世界各地,不同的文化, |
| 660 | many of whom don't speak English? | 很多人不会说英语? |
| 661 | Is that seriously cohesive to the British people? | 这是否与英国人民有严重的凝聚力? |
| 662 | May I respectfully ask | 我敬请您 |
| 663 | that you address that question to Boris Johnson? | 你问鲍里斯・约翰逊的问题? |
| 664 | The figure two and a half million springs to mind. | 这个数字是250万个泉水 |
| 665 | Let's just think where we are today | 让我们想想我们今天在哪 |
| 666 | in terms of our high streets. | 在我们的街道上。 |
| 667 | Does anybody honestly think | 有人真的认为 |
| 668 | that Thames water, | 泰晤士河的水, |
| 669 | floating with excrement and effluent | 随粪便和污水漂浮 |
| 670 | down everyone, including the beautiful river out there, | 包括那条美丽的河 |
| 671 | somehow is better than when we had a national water board? | 不知何故,比我们有 国家水板? |
| 672 | When is privatisation so successful there? | 私有化什么时候能成功? |
| 673 | Look at every single aspect. | 看看每一个方面。 |
| 674 | The government that sold off our gas, water, electricity, | 卖掉我们的煤气、水、电的政府 |
| 675 | sold off the very soul of this nation, | 出卖了这个国家的灵魂, |
| 676 | sold it off for a quick fix to actually not to invest, | 把它卖了 快速解决实际上不投资, |
| 677 | not to do what the Norwegians have done. | 不做挪威人已经做的。 |
| 678 | The Norwegians have to say | 挪威人不得不说 |
| 679 | when they had this great gushing tsunami of cash | 当他们有了巨大的海啸 现金 |
| 680 | emerging from the North Sea, | 从北海崛起, |
| 681 | did they give it to cut a few tax cuts | 他们有没有给它 削减一些减税 |
| 682 | for the millionaires like we did in this country? | 像我们这个国家的百万富翁一样? |
| 683 | No, they set up a sovereign wealth fund | 不,他们设立了主权财富基金 |
| 684 | and they now in Norway have virtually free adult social care | 现在在挪威 他们几乎免费的成人社会照顾 |
| 685 | because they thought for the future. | 因为他们想着未来 |
| 686 | We thought for today and not tomorrow. | 我们想到今天,而不是明天。 |
| 687 | And the problem we have even today, | 而我们今天的问题, |
| 688 | even today, we're facing that. | 即使是今天,我们面对着这一点。 |
| 689 | Just look at our high streets. | 看看我们的街道 |
| 690 | Now, look at what's happening. | 现在,看看发生了什么。 |
| 691 | Look at the hollowed out, | 看看那个空洞的 |
| 692 | look at the absolute agony of the public realm. | 看看公共领域的绝对痛苦。 |
| 693 | And I think if the public realm | 我想如果公共领域 |
| 694 | is in the state it is in the present time, | 是在现在的状态, |
| 695 | that encourages people to be even worse. | 这会鼓励人们更坏。 |
| 696 | It encourages appalling behaviour, you see. | 它鼓励了骇人听闻的行为 |
| 697 | And the difficulty is the real problem, | 困难是真正的问题 |
| 698 | and this is where I think this government is absolutely right. | 我觉得政府绝对是对的 |
| 699 | People who have no commitment to the nation, | 对国家没有承诺的人 |
| 700 | people who feel that their voice isn't heard, | 觉得自己的声音没被听到的人 |
| 701 | people who feel that they're crying in the wilderness, | 那些觉得自己在荒野中哭泣的人 |
| 702 | people who feel that their voices don't matter, | 觉得自己的声音不重要的人 |
| 703 | that their votes don't matter, | 他们的选票不重要, |
| 704 | that their views and opinions don't matter, | 他们的观点和观点不重要, |
| 705 | will never ever, ever be a happy and safe and stable community | 永远,永远,永远 是一个快乐,安全,稳定的社区 |
| 706 | because they do not have a stake in that society. | 因为他们与这个社会无关 |
| 707 | And that is what this government is trying to do. | 而政府正试图这样做。 |
| 708 | What we're trying to do is not to go back to the 1980s, | 我们想做的是不要回到1980年代 |
| 709 | it's to go forward to sanity, | 这是去前进的理智, |
| 710 | it's to go forward to the idea of social cohesion | 而是走向社会融合的思想 |
| 711 | where we are one nation, united. | 我们是一个国家,团结在一起。 |
| 712 | And then as one nation, | 然后作为一个国家 |
| 713 | then we can address all the issues that face us today, | 然后我们可以解决我们今天面临的所有问题, |
| 714 | environment, immigration to a certain extent, | 环境,在某种程度上移民, |
| 715 | yes, international warfare, | 是的,国际战争, |
| 716 | the threats of countries all around the world, | 世界各国的威胁, |
| 717 | it's all those things without a country coming together | 这一切都是没有国家会聚在一起 |
| 718 | as we have done in the past. | 和过去一样 |
| 719 | In the past, we've done it because of the external threat. | 过去因外道威胁而成就. |
| 720 | We've done it, we've come together | 我们成功了,我们走到一起 |
| 721 | because this country has been in danger. | 因为这个国家一直处于危险之中。 |
| 722 | We've come together because this country | 我们在一起是因为这个国家 |
| 723 | has been under absolute existential threat. | 一直处于绝对的生存威胁之下。 |
| 724 | I would say, in all seriousness, | 我会说,从所有认真, |
| 725 | this country is under major threat today. | 今天这个国家面临重大威胁 |
| 726 | But instead of uniting, | 但与其团结 |
| 727 | there are those voices who stick to the old mantra. | 有一些声音坚持旧的口号。 |
| 728 | It is so much easier to find a scapegoat | 找一个替罪羊容易多了 |
| 729 | than it is to find a solution. | 而不是找到一个解决方案。 |
| 730 | And it's no good simply attacking other people. | 直接攻击别人也没用 |
| 731 | We should actually be talking about coming together. | 我们实际上应该谈论 走到一起。 |
| 732 | And one of the single most important things together | 还有一件最重要的事情 |
| 733 | is to actually recognize, as I recognize, | 我承认, |
| 734 | that reform, the conservatives, the liberals, | 改革 保守派 自由派 |
| 735 | there are things in their manifestos, | 他们的《宣言》中确有许多迹象, |
| 736 | there are things in their policy, | 他们的政策中有些东西 |
| 737 | there are things in their hearts, | 他们心中有心事, |
| 738 | which I would agree with. | 我同意这一点。 |
| 739 | Because ultimately, very few people, in my opinion, | 因为归根结底, 很少有人,在我看来, |
| 740 | actually go into politics to destroy the country | 实际进入政治 摧毁国家 |
| 741 | in any way, do anything other than act for the common good. | 无论如何,除了为共同利益采取行动外,别无他法。 |
| 742 | I'd like to actually bring that together | 我很想把这件事说清楚 |
| 743 | because we are in a state of crisis. | 因为我们正处于危机之中。 |
| 744 | And to bring that together, | 并且为了把这件事结合起来, |
| 745 | we have to recognize that completely unfettered, | 我们必须认识到 完全不受限制, |
| 746 | red in tooth and claw capitalism simply isn't the answer. | 红色的牙齿和爪子资本主义 根本不是答案 |
| 747 | Look around the world. | 环顾世界. |
| 748 | Look at the countries which actually sign up to that, | 看看那些真正签约的国家 |
| 749 | and you'll not see a happy country. | 你将看不到一个快乐的国家。 |
| 750 | I happen to think that the idea | 我碰巧觉得这个想法 |
| 751 | that we can simply start throwing around words | 我们就可以开始兜圈子 |
| 752 | like communism and saying that we're happy | 就像共产主义 说我们很快乐 |
| 753 | and you've got Tehran is supporting us, | 你让德黑兰支持我们 |
| 754 | that's facile, that's appalling. | 这太简单了 太可怕了 |
| 755 | I think the single most important thing we can do today | 我认为今天最重要的事情 |
| 756 | is to recognize, as Andrew said, | 正如安德鲁所说, |
| 757 | that this is a great nation | 这是一个伟大的国家, |
| 758 | and it can be an even greater nation. | 它可以是一个更大的国家。 |
| 759 | We can only be a greater nation | 我们只能成为一个伟大的国家 |
| 760 | if we stop dividing ourselves, | 如果我们不再分裂自己 |
| 761 | we stop actually attacking people on this ruthless extent | 我们停止真正攻击 人在这个无情的程度 |
| 762 | and to actually say that sometimes, you know, | 而且实际上说,有时,你知道, |
| 763 | you can make a mistake. | 你可以犯一个错误。 |
| 764 | And I'd actually like to hear someone admit from the 1980s | 我想听听1980年代有人承认 |
| 765 | that selling off everything overnight, | 一夜之间卖掉一切 |
| 766 | flogging it to the situation, | 鞭打它的情况, |
| 767 | just a minute, where our gas, water, and electricity | 等一等 我们的煤气 水和电 |
| 768 | is in the back pockets of the Germans, | 在德国人的后口袋里 |
| 769 | the French, and hedge funds in Australia. | 法国和澳大利亚的对冲基金 |
| 770 | If the only people I've ever met | 如果我唯一见过的人 |
| 771 | who are completely happy and satisfied | 他们完全快乐和满意 |
| 772 | with the privatization of water, gas, and electricity | 水、煤气和电力的私有化 |
| 773 | are the shareholders of water, gas, and electricity, | 是水、煤气和电力的股东, |
| 774 | that is simply not good enough, not good enough for this country. | 这根本不够好,对这个国家也不够好。 |
| 775 | So what we lack at the moment, we don't lack ambition, | 因此,我们目前缺乏的, 我们并不缺乏野心, |
| 776 | we don't lack intelligence, we don't have the brains, | 我们没有智慧,没有头脑 |
| 777 | we don't lack that, we don't lack those issues | 我们不缺乏,我们不缺乏这些问题 |
| 778 | that make this country great. | 这使这个国家变得伟大。 |
| 779 | What we do lack is that sense of vision, that hope. | 我们所缺乏的是这种远见感和希望。 |
| 780 | And can I say we've heard the word hope thrown around a lot | 我可以说我们已经听到 这个词的希望扔了很多 |
| 781 | and it's easy to mock, Andy, for talking about hope. | Andy 说起希望很容易嘲笑 |
| 782 | But I happen to think these onto something very, very important | 但我碰巧觉得这些东西非常重要 |
| 783 | that never forget Seamus Heaney. | 永远忘不了海穆斯·海尼 |
| 784 | History says, don't hope on this side of the grave. | 历史说,不要指望在坟墓的这一边. |
| 785 | But then, once in a lifetime, | 但之后,在一生的一次, |
| 786 | the longed-for tidal wave of justice will rise up | 渴望的潮汐 正义的浪潮将崛起 |
| 787 | and hope and history rhyme. | 和希望与历史韵律。 |
| 788 | I have confidence that this government can achieve that. | 我相信这个政府能够做到这一点。 |
| 789 | I thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 790 | No, don't leave now. | 不,别走 |
| 791 | The debate is just about to get better. | 这场辩论即将好转。 |
| 792 | Okay, this is the part of the debate | 好了,这是辩论的一部分 |
| 793 | where we now invite the members of the audience | 我们现在邀请观众 |
| 794 | to give floor speeches. | 请各位发言。 |
| 795 | Now, before I do that, however, | 在我这样做之前, |
| 796 | I would encourage each of you, | 我会鼓励你们每一个人, |
| 797 | while you guys are walking down out of the chamber, | 在你们走出房间的时候 |
| 798 | to vote with your feet. | 用你的脚投票。 |
| 799 | So as you leave the chamber, the eyes to the right, | 所以当你离开房间, 眼睛在右边, |
| 800 | if you have no confidence in His Majesty's government, | 如果你对陛下的政府没有信心 |
| 801 | the nose to the left, | 左边的鼻子, |
| 802 | if you do have confidence in His Majesty's government. | 如果你对陛下的政府有信心的话 |
| 803 | Before I go any further, however, | 不过在我继续之前 |
| 804 | I will now pass the mic to the secretary | 我现在把麦克风递给秘书 |
| 805 | to announce the debate cocktails in the bar today. | 宣布辩论鸡尾酒 今天在酒吧。 |
| 806 | Hi, everyone. | 大家好,你们好。 |
| 807 | I hope you've been having a lovely time at the debate. | 我希望你在辩论会上玩得很开心 |
| 808 | We've seen great invigorating speeches from both sides. | 我们从两边都看到了令人振奋的演讲。 |
| 809 | If you wish to show your support in a more fun way, however, | 如果你想以更有趣的方式表示支持 |
| 810 | we have two drinks at the bar tonight | 我们今晚在酒吧喝两杯 |
| 811 | and it is my pleasure to announce the debate cocktails. | 我很高兴宣布辩论鸡尾酒 |
| 812 | So for side proposition, we have Keir's Tears | 因此,作为侧面的提议, 我们有基尔的眼泪 |
| 813 | and on side opposition, we have Andy's Ale. | 和侧面的反对, 我们有安迪的艾乐。 |
| 814 | So I'll see you all at the bar today. | 今天在酒吧见 |
| 815 | Please show your support for the motion | 请大家支持这个动议 |
| 816 | with the drinks you pick. | 你选的饮料。 |
| 817 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 818 | All right. | 好吧,我们走。 |
| 819 | Here's how this is going to go. | 事情是这样的 |
| 820 | I'm going to call for two floor speeches now. | 我现在要求两层楼的发言。 |
| 821 | I'm going to go back to our guest speakers | 我要回到我们的客座演讲者 |
| 822 | and then after I'm going to go | 之后,我会去 |
| 823 | for another two floor speeches after that. | 之后再做两层演讲 |
| 824 | So let's go. | 因此,我们走吧。 |
| 825 | Who has like to give a floor speech for the proposition? | 谁愿意为这个提议发言? |
| 826 | Okay, I call upon the ex-librarian, Padrao Pandey. | 好吧,我呼吁前图书馆家,帕德罗潘迪。 |
| 827 | I know in my heart we won't achieve the change we need | 我知道在我的心里 我们不会实现我们需要的改变 |
| 828 | with more of the same. | 与更多同样的。 |
| 829 | These are the words of our prime minister in September | 这是我们总理九月的话 |
| 830 | after he deposed the leader, | 在他废黜领袖之后, |
| 831 | which was democratically elected in a general election. | 在大选中经民主选举产生。 |
| 832 | It's really easy in these kinds of debates | 在这种辩论中很容易 |
| 833 | to get bogged down into the granular policy details. | 进入颗粒政策的细节。 |
| 834 | Really, I'm not really interested in that | 真的,我真的不感兴趣 |
| 835 | if I'm being honest with you. | 如果我对你诚实的话 |
| 836 | What I'm interested in is the key of this debate, | 我感兴趣的是这场辩论的关键 |
| 837 | which is that this government led by Andy Burnham | 也就是安迪·伯纳姆领导的政府 |
| 838 | has no mandate. | 没有授权。 |
| 839 | On the one hand, we have people like our esteemed librarian | 一方面,我们有像我们尊敬的图书管理员这样的人 |
| 840 | who say that Labour has a historic mandate. | 说工党有历史使命 |
| 841 | They were delivered so many seats in parliament. | 他们在议会中获得了这么多席位。 |
| 842 | They of course have a mandate to deliver their policies. | 他们当然有执行政策的任务。 |
| 843 | But on the other hand, | 但另一方面, |
| 844 | we have people like our prime minister himself | 我们有像首相这样的人 |
| 845 | saying that he's going to diverge from the policies | 说他会偏离政策 |
| 846 | that we elected in the last general election. | 我们在上次大选中当选 |
| 847 | And this is perfectly illustrated | 这一点非常清楚 |
| 848 | in the emergency debates | 紧急辩论中的发言 |
| 849 | which we just discussed about the triple lock. | 我们刚刚讨论了三联锁 |
| 850 | Abandoning the triple lock | 放弃三重锁 |
| 851 | is one of the most important, | 这是最重要的之一, |
| 852 | one of the most consequential divergences on policies | 在政策上最导致的分歧之一 |
| 853 | which this government has announced. | 这是政府宣布的 |
| 854 | Nobody elected it. | 没有人选它。 |
| 855 | Nobody voted for it. | 没有人投票支持它。 |
| 856 | It was just announced on a whim by a prime minister | 总理突然宣布 |
| 857 | who none of us elected. | 我们没有选举谁。 |
| 858 | That is the key of this debate. | 这是本次辩论的关键。 |
| 859 | If Andy Burnham wants to call a general election | 如果安迪·伯纳姆想举行大选 |
| 860 | and earn his own mandate, | 并获得自己的授权, |
| 861 | then he should do so. | 那么他应该这样做。 |
| 862 | I would support him in doing so, | 我会支持他这样做, |
| 863 | but he won't because he knows | 但他不会 因为他知道 |
| 864 | that if he faces the British public, | 如果他面对英国公众 |
| 865 | then he'll be voted out of office. | 然后他被淘汰出局 |
| 866 | Now, you know what? | 现在,你知道吗? |
| 867 | I'm going to make one very quick point. | 我要说一个非常简单的话。 |
| 868 | I know I mentioned | 我知道我提到过 |
| 869 | I won't go into the granular policy details, | 我不会再细述政策细节了 |
| 870 | but I think if there's one part of policy | 但我认为如果政策中有一部分 |
| 871 | which we should all consider | 我们都应该考虑 |
| 872 | in his economic policy, | 在他的经济政策中, |
| 873 | this government has been abysmal. | 这个政府非常糟糕 |
| 874 | You know, I read in the Financial Times quite recently | 你知道,我读 金融时报最近 |
| 875 | and it was celebrated in the Financial Times. | 并在"金融时报"上庆祝 |
| 876 | In August, we received 0.1% of economic growth. | 8月,我们获得了0.1%的经济增长。 |
| 877 | That was celebrated by the media. | 媒体对此进行了庆祝。 |
| 878 | That shows the abysmal state of our country | 这说明我国的恶劣状况 |
| 879 | that we celebrate 0.1% of growth. | 我们庆祝增长的0.1%。 |
| 880 | This government has no respect for businesses. | 这个政府不尊重企业. |
| 881 | They have no respect for people like you and I. | 他们不尊重你我这样的人 |
| 882 | They don't care about the future of economic growth. | 他们不在乎经济增长的未来. |
| 883 | All they care about is whatever will keep them in power. | 他们只关心什么能让他们保持权力 |
| 884 | And for that reason, | 为此, |
| 885 | the reason of the government having no mandate, | 政府没有授权的原因, |
| 886 | the government being abysmal in economic policy, | 在经济政策方面政府是极端恶劣的, |
| 887 | then I urge you all to vote | 那么我敦促你们大家投票 |
| 888 | that this house has no confidence | 这房子没有信心 |
| 889 | in his majesty's government. | 在他的政府中。 |
| 890 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 891 | I keep forgetting the mic. | 我总是忘了麦克风 |
| 892 | All right. | 好吧,我们走。 |
| 893 | Now, please raise your membership cards | 现在,请举起你的会员卡 |
| 894 | if you would like to speak for the opposition. | 请代表反对派发言。 |
| 895 | I call upon the ex-returning officer, | 我找那个退伍军官 |
| 896 | (原始内容存档于2018-09-21). Saigam Fahad. | |
| 897 | Ladies and gentlemen, | 女士们,先生们, |
| 898 | this is the picture of Sir Nick Clegg | 这是尼克·克莱格爵士的照片 |
| 899 | that I'm honored to carry in my pocket | 我很荣幸地带着我的口袋 |
| 900 | at all times being the good card-carrying liberal Democrat | 永远是持卡的民主主义者 |
| 901 | that I am. | 说我是。 |
| 902 | I hear you ask, therefore, | 我听到你问,因此, |
| 903 | why does the Lib Dem find himself on this side of the house | 为什么Lib Dem发现自己在房子的这边 |
| 904 | doing cope for the Labour Party? | 帮工党做事? |
| 905 | Well, I think it's because Andy Burnham | 我想是因为安迪·伯纳姆 |
| 906 | is the most effective liberal Democrat | 是最有效的自由民主党 |
| 907 | this century, perhaps, | 这个世纪,也许, |
| 908 | in the last 200 years of British politics. | 在英国政治的最后200年。 |
| 909 | Because finally, he is enacting | 因为最后,他正在制定 |
| 910 | the things that our party has talked about | 我们党讨论过的事情 |
| 911 | for a very, very, very long time. | 在非常,非常,非常长的时间。 |
| 912 | Finally, we get movement on the travesty | 最后,我们得到了移动 滑稽 |
| 913 | that is the British social care system. | 这是英国的社会关怀系统。 |
| 914 | Finally, we get a prime minister | 终于有首相了 |
| 915 | committing to moving away from first-past-the-post | 承诺从头到尾 |
| 916 | an electoral system designed by a six-year-old. | 由六岁儿童设计的选举制度。 |
| 917 | And finally, we get a prime minister | 最后,我们得到了一位总理 |
| 918 | committed to continuing on | 承诺继续 |
| 919 | with the devolution infrastructure | 权力下放基础设施 |
| 920 | that is fundamental to this country | 对这个国家至关重要 |
| 921 | and bringing together our history | 并汇集我们的历史 |
| 922 | as different nations in a way | 作为不同的国家 |
| 923 | that is functional and secure. | 这是功能和安全的。 |
| 924 | And so I think politics should be about more | 所以我认为政治应该更多 |
| 925 | than the colors of the party | 比派对的颜色 |
| 926 | that we are members of. | 我们是其中的一员。 |
| 927 | I think politics should be about | 我觉得政治应该是 |
| 928 | the policies that we believe in | 我们相信的政策 |
| 929 | and the things that we want to see enacted. | 以及我们想看到的事物 |
| 930 | And so for as long as I see a government | 所以只要我看到一个政府 |
| 931 | that I think is going to enact | 我想会颁布 |
| 932 | on the policies that I hold dear, | 关于我亲爱的政策, |
| 933 | I will be happy to say I have confidence in you. | 我很乐意说我对你有信心 |
| 934 | And more importantly, | 更重要的是, |
| 935 | I have confidence in this government | 我对政府有信心 |
| 936 | because I fear what comes next. | 因为我害怕接下来会发生什么 |
| 937 | If progressives, people on vaguely | 如果进步,人们在模糊的 |
| 938 | the center and the left | 中间和左边 |
| 939 | don't at least temporarily lend our support | 至少不要暂时支持我们 |
| 940 | to the Labour Party or coalition, | 致工党或联盟, |
| 941 | we may be faced with a reformed government. | 我们可能会面对一个改革的政府。 |
| 942 | And I think that is something for all of us | 我认为这对我们所有人来说都是一件好事 |
| 943 | to collectively be afraid of and fearful of. | 集体恐惧和恐惧 |
| 944 | I do not want to live in a country | 我不想在一个国家生活 |
| 945 | where people question | 人们质疑的地方 |
| 946 | whether my children could ever be English. | 我的孩子是否永远是英国人。 |
| 947 | I don't want to live in a country | 我不想在一个国家生活 |
| 948 | where our government rips up | 我们的政府撕裂的地方 |
| 949 | the human rights infrastructure | 人权基础设施 |
| 950 | designed by Winston Churchill | 温斯顿·丘吉尔设计 |
| 951 | and other Brits in the aftermath | 和其他英国人 |
| 952 | of the Second World War. | 第二次世界大战期间 |
| 953 | And I don't want to live in a country | 我不想在一个国家生活 |
| 954 | where the government backs | 政府支持的地方 |
| 955 | an American president who says | 一个美国总统说 |
| 956 | that the Ukrainian president should resign | 乌克兰总统辞职 |
| 957 | and supports a regime that shoots | 并且支持一个政权 拍摄 |
| 958 | its own citizens in the street. | 在街道上有自己的公民。 |
| 959 | I think the question facing this country | 我觉得这个国家所面临的问题 |
| 960 | in 2029 is fundamental. | 在2029年是根本性的。 |
| 961 | It is about who we are. | 而是我们是谁 |
| 962 | It is about our values. | 这是关于我们的价值观。 |
| 963 | It is about what this country stands for. | 这是关于这个国家代表什么。 |
| 964 | It is about whether we stand up for Ukraine, | 而是我们是否支持乌克兰, |
| 965 | whether we stand up for human rights. | 我们是否捍卫人权。 |
| 966 | And I think all of us | 我想我们所有人 |
| 967 | who oppose that brand of politics | 谁反对这个品牌的政治 |
| 968 | have a responsibility to do the right thing, | 有责任做正确的事情, |
| 969 | whatever the color of our party membership cards. | 不管我们党员卡的颜色 |
| 970 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 971 | I thank both floor speakers | 我感谢两位发言者。 |
| 972 | or a pair of very fine speeches. | 或者一对非常好的演讲 |
| 973 | And now to carry on with our guest speakers, | 现在继续我们的客座演讲 |
| 974 | I call upon Mr. Gideon Amos, OBE MP. | 我请OBE议员吉迪恩·阿莫斯先生发言。 |
| 975 | Ladies and gentlemen, | 女士们,先生们, |
| 976 | thank you for inviting me | 谢谢你邀请我 |
| 977 | to this august institution. | 给这个庄严的机构。 |
| 978 | Mr. President, thank you. | 主席先生,谢谢你。 |
| 979 | If you wanted a passionate case | 如果你想要一个充满激情的案子 |
| 980 | for why complacency | 为什么自满? |
| 981 | with the current regime is not good enough, | 现在的政权还不够好, |
| 982 | it was the fantastic speech | 这是美妙的演讲 |
| 983 | made by the previous speaker | 前一位发言者的发言 |
| 984 | from the back of the hall. | 从后堂. |
| 985 | And it's for those reasons | 也是因为这些原因 |
| 986 | I say that the seriousness | 我说,认真的 |
| 987 | of the threat we are faced | 我们面临的威胁 |
| 988 | from a reform slash conservative government | 一个改革的保守政府 |
| 989 | with the one propping up the other, | 与一个扶助, |
| 990 | the most right-wing government | 最右翼政府 右翼政府 |
| 991 | we've ever seen in this country, | 我们在这个国家见过, |
| 992 | is so great that you have to vote | 如此伟大,你不得不投票 |
| 993 | for the motion of no confidence in the government | 不信任政府的动议 |
| 994 | because this government needs to go further, | 因为这个政府需要更进一步 |
| 995 | it needs to be more ambitious, | 它需要更雄心勃勃, |
| 996 | it needs to be bolder, | 它需要更大胆, |
| 997 | and it needs to take the decisive actions | 它需要采取果断行动 |
| 998 | and policies that will change our country | 改变我国的政策 |
| 999 | for the better, | 以更好的方式, |
| 1000 | which it has failed to do hitherto. | 它至今没有这样做。 |
| 1001 | It lacks ambition | 它缺乏野心 |
| 1002 | in most of the things it discusses. | 在它讨论的大部分事情。 |
| 1003 | Did you know that in the last five years, | 你知道在过去五年里 |
| 1004 | 104 children died | 104名儿童死亡 |
| 1005 | with temporary accommodation | 临时住宿 |
| 1006 | named as a contributory factor | 列为促成因素 |
| 1007 | in their death? | 在他们的死亡? |
| 1008 | In Britain today, | 在今天的英国, |
| 1009 | there are 175 children living | 有175名儿童生活着 |
| 1010 | in hotel bed and breakfast rooms, | 在旅馆的床和早餐室, |
| 1011 | in hostels, | 在招待所里, |
| 1012 | in bed and breakfast landlord accommodation, | 在床上和早餐房东的住所, |
| 1013 | and they're dying as a result. | 他们因此死亡 |
| 1014 | The housing ambition is not bold enough, | 住房野心不够大胆 |
| 1015 | the housing ambition has not been delivered | 住房目标尚未实现 |
| 1016 | in the strength it needs to, | 以它所需要的力量, |
| 1017 | and we need to send a message to the government, | 我们需要向政府发出一个信息, |
| 1018 | they need to do better, | 他们需要做得更好, |
| 1019 | they need to go further, | 他们需要更进一步, |
| 1020 | they need to build not just | 他们需要建设 不只是 |
| 1021 | the 90,000 social homes | 90 000个社会之家 |
| 1022 | that Shelter and National Housing Federation | 住房和全国住房联合会 |
| 1023 | say that we need, | 说我们需要, |
| 1024 | and by the way, | 顺便说一句, |
| 1025 | the government, I'm sorry, | 政府,对不起, |
| 1026 | Stephen, are only committing | 史蒂芬,只是犯规 |
| 1027 | to 18,000 homes, | - 18,000个家庭; |
| 1028 | and the Liberal Democrats, | 和自由民主党, |
| 1029 | we want to see 150,000 social rent homes, | 我们想看15万套社会租房 |
| 1030 | homes that are genuinely affordable | 真正负担得起的住房 |
| 1031 | for young people, | 为年轻人, |
| 1032 | for working people, | 为劳动人民, |
| 1033 | for all those who cannot afford | 对所有无力负担的人 |
| 1034 | the rocketing house prices | 房价暴涨 |
| 1035 | that are making home ownership | 拥有房屋的人 |
| 1036 | out further and further | 越远越好 |
| 1037 | out of reach for younger generations. | 年轻一代无法企及 |
| 1038 | They're not ambitious enough on Europe, | 他们在欧洲的野心还不够大 |
| 1039 | and the issue of immigration | 移民问题 |
| 1040 | was raised a few moments ago, | 刚才被养大了 |
| 1041 | and I noticed people are often reluctant | 我注意到人们常常不情愿 |
| 1042 | to talk about it, | 谈谈这件事 |
| 1043 | and my friends in the Reform Party | 和我在改革党的朋友 |
| 1044 | often say they're the only ones | 常说只有他们 |
| 1045 | willing to talk about immigration. | 愿意谈论移民。 |
| 1046 | Well, Mr. President, | 总统先生 |
| 1047 | I'm going to talk about immigration | 我要谈谈移民问题 |
| 1048 | because I'm going to say plainly and clearly, | 因为我要说清楚 |
| 1049 | we need immigration in our country, | 我们需要移民到我们的国家, |
| 1050 | we celebrate those | 我们庆祝这些 |
| 1051 | who have brought their lives here, | 他们带来了他们的生活, |
| 1052 | who have strengthened our local businesses, | 他们加强了我们的地方企业, |
| 1053 | who care for our loved ones, | 他们关心我们所爱的人, |
| 1054 | and who nurse our relatives. | 并照顾我们的亲戚。 |
| 1055 | Those are the migrants | 他们是移民 |
| 1056 | who make our country stronger, | 他们使我们的国家更加强大, |
| 1057 | and those are the migrants | 他们是移民, |
| 1058 | that we need to serve | 我们需要服务 |
| 1059 | and support our aging population, | 并且支持我们的老龄人口, |
| 1060 | who are the biggest reason | 谁是最大的原因 |
| 1061 | for the increase in population. | 为增加人口。 |
| 1062 | Don't believe the lies, | 不要相信谎言, |
| 1063 | there's immigration, | 有移民, |
| 1064 | there's swelling population | 人口膨胀 |
| 1065 | more than anything else. | 比其他任何东西都要多 |
| 1066 | It's the fact, the glorious fact, | 这是事实,光荣的事实, |
| 1067 | that we live longer, | 我们活得更久 |
| 1068 | and we have an entire | 我们有一个完整的 |
| 1069 | another generation to look after, | 还要照顾另一代人 |
| 1070 | and that's why we need | 这就是为什么我们需要 |
| 1071 | the diversity of our country. | 我们国家的多样性。 |
| 1072 | We need immigration to support that | 我们需要移民支持 |
| 1073 | and support our loved ones | 支持我们的爱人 |
| 1074 | and our economy. | 我们的经济。 |
| 1075 | So we're not going further, | 所以,我们没有进一步, |
| 1076 | or fast enough on Europe. | 或足够快的欧洲。 |
| 1077 | Labour need to break their red lines | 劳动需要打破他们的红线 |
| 1078 | of no single market, | 没有单一市场, |
| 1079 | no customs union, | 没有关税同盟, |
| 1080 | and no freedom of movement. | 没有行动自由。 |
| 1081 | We want to restore freedom of movement | 我们要恢复行动自由 |
| 1082 | for young people | 年轻人 |
| 1083 | so you can once again live, | 这样你就可以再次活着 |
| 1084 | fall in love, | 坠入爱河 |
| 1085 | and work all over Europe, | 在欧洲各地工作, |
| 1086 | all over your life. | 你一生都这样 |
| 1087 | I give way to the gentleman. | 我让位给这位先生 |
| 1088 | I believe that our country is made stronger | 我相信我们的国家会变得更强大 |
| 1089 | by the contributions of those | 由这些捐助者的捐款 |
| 1090 | who have come and made their lives here. | 他们来到这里 并在这里谋生。 |
| 1091 | Of course, and don't mistake that | 当然了,别误会 |
| 1092 | for a liberal standing here | 为自由主义者站在这里 |
| 1093 | saying I want uncontrolled immigration. | 说我要不受控制的移民 |
| 1094 | I don't. | 我没有。 |
| 1095 | We should have controlled migration. | 我们应该控制移民 |
| 1096 | We need immigration, | 我们需要移民 |
| 1097 | but we should have controlled migration. | 但我们应该控制移民 |
| 1098 | And you know the best way | 你知道最好的办法 |
| 1099 | to control uncontrolled immigration, | 控制不受控制的移民, |
| 1100 | the best way to do that | 最好的办法 |
| 1101 | would be to work together | 将会是合作 |
| 1102 | with our European neighbours. | 与我们的欧洲邻国。 |
| 1103 | Did you know not a single person | 你不认识一个人 |
| 1104 | crossed the channel by boat in 2017 | 2017年乘船过海 |
| 1105 | Brexit问题之前 | |
| 1106 | took hold and took effect? | 保持了状态并生效了? |
| 1107 | Not a single person came over | 没有一个人过来 |
| 1108 | on a small boat. | 在一条小船上。 |
| 1109 | Why? | 为什么? |
| 1110 | Because we had cooperation | 因为我们有合作 |
| 1111 | with our European friends, | 与我们的欧洲朋友, |
| 1112 | our European allies, | 我们的欧洲盟友, |
| 1113 | and we need to return | 我们需要回来 |
| 1114 | to the European migration pact | 《欧洲移民条约》 |
| 1115 | which they've just developed | 他们刚刚发展起来 |
| 1116 | in which every country in Europe | 欧洲每个国家 |
| 1117 | will have a returns agreement | 将有一个返回协议 |
| 1118 | with every other country in Europe. | 与欧洲其他任何国家。 |
| 1119 | We are losing 90 billion pounds a year | 我们每年损失九百亿磅 |
| 1120 | in tax revenue from the disaster | 损失的税收 |
| 1121 | that was Brexit. | 这是布莱克西特。 |
| 1122 | It's the biggest act of masochism | 这是最大的虐恋行为 |
| 1123 | that any country has committed on itself. | 任何国家都对自己作出承诺。 |
| 1124 | Labour is not bold enough. | 劳动不够大胆。 |
| 1125 | It's not going far enough | 还不够远 |
| 1126 | on the European Union. | 欧洲联盟主席 |
| 1127 | We need to build towards | 我们需要建设 |
| 1128 | a new economic and defence pact | 新的经济和国防条约 |
| 1129 | with the European Union | 与欧洲联盟的合作 |
| 1130 | and eventually move towards | 最终走向 |
| 1131 | a single market | 单一市场 |
| 1132 | and find our place once again | 再次找到我们的位置 |
| 1133 | in Europe, in the heart of Europe, | 在欧洲,在欧洲的心脏, |
| 1134 | where the UK belongs as a driving force. | 英国属于这里作为动力 |
| 1135 | And Labour is also | 劳动也是 |
| 1136 | not going further enough | 不够深入 |
| 1137 | or fast enough on the cost of living | 足够快的生活费 |
| 1138 | and on fairness | 公平问题 |
| 1139 | and supporting people | 支持人民 |
| 1140 | with household bills | 家庭账单 |
| 1141 | and the costs they're facing. | 他们面对的代价 |
| 1142 | The tax burden has never been big enough, | 税负一直不够大 |
| 1143 | never been bigger than it is today | 从来没有比今天更大的 |
| 1144 | and we should be cutting people's taxes | 我们应该削减人们的税收 |
| 1145 | but we can only do that. | 但我们只能这样做。 |
| 1146 | And by the way, | 顺便说一句 |
| 1147 | we should also be cutting the taxes | 我们也应该减税 |
| 1148 | on the small businesses | 小企业 |
| 1149 | that Andy Burnham himself has said | 安迪·伯纳姆本人说过 |
| 1150 | was a mistake of the last two or three years. | 是过去两三年的一个错误 |
| 1151 | But we can only do that | 但我们只能这么做 |
| 1152 | if we build our economy | 如果我们建立我们的经济 |
| 1153 | and we build the economic growth | 我们建立经济增长 |
| 1154 | that we need | 我们需要 |
| 1155 | and we can only build | 我们只能建造 |
| 1156 | the economic growth we need | 我们需要的经济增长 |
| 1157 | if we remember and recognise | 如果我们记得和识别 |
| 1158 | and rediscover that we're part | 并重新发现我们的一部分 |
| 1159 | of the biggest market, | 在最大的市场, |
| 1160 | one of the biggest markets | 最大的市场之一 |
| 1161 | in the world on our doorstep, | 在我们门前的世界 |
| 1162 | which we cut ourselves off from, | 我们从中断绝, |
| 1163 | creating red tape | 创建繁体字 |
| 1164 | and fees for small businesses | 小企业收费 |
| 1165 | across the United Kingdom. | 横跨英国 |
| 1166 | We need to break that logjam. | 我们需要打破僵局。 |
| 1167 | We need to break that red tape. | 我们需要打破繁文缛节。 |
| 1168 | We need to rejoin our rightful place | 我们需要重新回到我们应有的位置 |
| 1169 | in the European marketplace | 在欧洲市场上 |
| 1170 | and we're not going fast enough either | 我们的速度也不够快 |
| 1171 | on the river pollution | 关于河流污染 |
| 1172 | that Stephen outlined. | 史蒂芬概述。 |
| 1173 | In my constituency, | 在我的选区, |
| 1174 | the River Tone is full of unmentionables | 托尼河充满了不可思議的东西 |
| 1175 | on an epic scale | 在史诗规模上 |
| 1176 | and 40 billion pounds | 和400亿英镑 |
| 1177 | since privatisation | 自私有化以来 |
| 1178 | has been passed to shareholders, | 已经转给股东, |
| 1179 | mostly living in Malaysia. | 大部分居住在马来西亚. |
| 1180 | Imagine if that kind | 想象一下如果那样 |
| 1181 | of investment have gone | 投资已经消失 |
| 1182 | into cleaning up our rivers, | 进入清理我们的河流, |
| 1183 | cleaning up our water system, | 清理我们的供水系统, |
| 1184 | cleaning up our environment | 清理我们的环境 |
| 1185 | and addressing climate change. | 和应对气候变化。 |
| 1186 | We need to radically change | 我们需要彻底改变 |
| 1187 | our approach to the environment. | 我们对环境的态度 |
| 1188 | recognise we are one of the most nature depleted countries in the world and we | 承认我们是世界上最穷困的国家之一 |
| 1189 | need to embrace a future that aligns climate change with people's pockets. | 需要拥抱一个将气候变化与人民的口袋联系起来的未来。 |
| 1190 | We | 我们 |
| 1191 | need to generate cheaper energy, we need to regrow our renewable energy in the | 我们需要产生更便宜的能源, 我们需要重新调整我们的可再生能源 |
| 1192 | way that Ed Davey as climate and energy secretary took the UK to the biggest | 艾德·戴维作为气候和能源秘书 将英国带到了最大的 |
| 1193 | offshore wind generating nation on the planet. | 离岸风力发电国 |
| 1194 | We can do that again, we can go | 我们可以再做一次,我们可以走了 |
| 1195 | further, we can bring free renewable energy into the system and lower | 此外,我们可以将免费可再生能源带入系统,降低 |
| 1196 | people's bills so that they can afford to live and afford the luxuries, the | 人们的账单,以便他们能够 生活和支付奢侈品, |
| 1197 | little luxuries that we all want to take for granted. | 我们想当做理所当然的奢侈品 |
| 1198 | So we need to vote for this | 所以我们得投票支持这个 |
| 1199 | motion not just because we need to see change but not just because we need to | 动动不仅仅是因为我们需要看到变化 不仅仅是因为我们需要 |
| 1200 | see a new Liberal government and of course we do, a hundred years it's been | 看到一个新的自由政府 当然,我们这样做,一百年了 |
| 1201 | far too long but with 72 MPs, the biggest number of Liberal MPs in | 时间太长了,但有72名议员, 人数最多的自由党议员 |
| 1202 | Parliament for a hundred years, the prospect of Liberals being in government | 百年来的议会,自由党执政的前景 |
| 1203 | again has never been closer and we will deliver on that and that's why I say we | 从此再也没有更接近过,我们会做到这一点 这就是为什么我说,我们 |
| 1204 | need to vote tonight for the motion to make Labour go further, be bolder and | 今晚必须投票支持让工党走得更远 更大胆一点 |
| 1205 | ultimately to see a more Liberal and a better Britain, a Britain that believes | 最终看到一个更加自由 更好的英国 一个相信 |
| 1206 | in freeing people to fulfil their lives in the way they want to with a decent | 以他们想要的方式实现他们的生活 |
| 1207 | home, a Liberalism that believes in fairness and a Liberalism that believes | 自由主义信仰公平 自由主义信仰公平 |
| 1208 | in protecting the environment for the best interests of our planet. | 为了我们地球的最高利益保护环境。 |
| 1209 | Thank you | 谢谢 |
| 1210 | very much. | 非常喜欢 |
| 1211 | I thank Mr. Gideon Amos for that fine speech and now to continue | 我感谢吉迪恩·阿莫斯先生的精彩发言,现在继续 |
| 1212 | 我向Fraser Campbell Casey先生呼吁反对。 | |
| 1213 | Mr. President, | 主席先生, |
| 1214 | ladies and gentlemen, brothers and sisters, comrades, I want to make clear | 女士们,先生们,兄弟姐妹们,同志们,我想说清楚 |
| 1215 | that nobody on this side of the house suggests that Prime Minister Burnham is | 房子这边没有人 暗示伯纳姆总理 |
| 1216 | absolutely perfect. | 绝对完美 |
| 1217 | You have heard that he went to Cambridge and we happen | 你听说他去了剑桥,我们发生了 |
| 1218 | to believe on this side of the house that people in this country, despite | 相信在房子的这一边 这个国家的人,尽管 |
| 1219 | horrible early disadvantage, can still find a meaningful place in society. | 早期的恶劣处境,仍然可以在社会中找到有意义的位置。 |
| 1220 | He | |
| 1221 | also has, and this may be a particular point of personal vulnerability on my | 这也许是我个人的弱点 |
| 1222 | point, a disconcerting habit of putting middle-aged King's Council out of a job. | 点,一个令人不安的习惯 使中年的国王议会 失业。 |
| 1223 | I hope that doesn't become a general policy but the imperfection does not end | 我希望这不会成为一般政策 但不完美不会结束 |
| 1224 | and in our submission to you does not really compare with the imperfection | 而在我们向你们递交的呈文中,并没有真正地与不完善的事物相比较。 |
| 1225 | that we can detect on the other side of the house in your, Mr. President, hand-picked | 主席先生,我们可以在房子的另一边 发现你亲手挑选的 |
| 1226 | artisanal coalition of chaos on the proposition bench this evening. | 今晚在提案席上 出现混乱的个体联盟 |
| 1227 | It's a | 这是一个 |
| 1228 | great pleasure to follow Mr. Amos. | 很高兴跟随阿莫斯先生 |
| 1229 | Sometimes one forgets, perhaps it's | 有时候会忘记 也许 |
| 1230 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}想着英国政治界的Lib Dems {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}事实上 | |
| 1231 | They are irrepressible. | 它们是不可压抑的。 |
| 1232 | You can guarantee that the morning after nuclear | 你可以保证核子之后的早上 |
| 1233 | Armageddon, the only creatures scuttling across the face of the planet will be | 世界末日 地球上唯一一个 被撞倒的生物 |
| 1234 | A. cockroaches and B. people in yellow rosettes handing out by election | A. 蟑螂和B. 穿着黄玫瑰花的人通过选举分发 |
| 1235 | leaflets with misleading bar graphs declaring only we can beat the zombies | 带有误导性的条形图的传单 声明只有我们能打败僵尸 |
| 1236 | here. | 在这里。 |
| 1237 | And of course, like a Lib Dem of old, Mr. Amos said all sorts of things | 当然,像Lib Dem一样,阿莫斯先生说了各种各样的话 |
| 1238 | that are expressed in such a reasonable tone and such a level of abstraction | 以如此合理的语气和如此抽象的 |
| 1239 | that it's very hard to disagree with. | 很难不同意 |
| 1240 | Well no, no one's in favor of children in | 嗯,不,没有人赞成孩子英寸 |
| 1241 | poverty, no one's in favor of excluding ourselves from the broader world, no | 贫困,没有人赞成将我们排斥在更广泛的世界之外,没有 |
| 1242 | one's in favor of climate change. | 一赞成气候变化。 |
| 1243 | I exclude certain of your colleagues who | 我排除了你某些同事 |
| 1244 | in a moment, but nobody reasonable is in favor of any of these. | 但是没有人会赞成这些 |
| 1245 | But there was a | 但有一个 |
| 1246 | wonderful Freudian slip. | 美丽的弗洛伊德滑倒。 |
| 1247 | Did you detect it from Mr. Amos when he perorated that | 你从阿莫斯先生那里发现的吗? |
| 1248 | it's about time for a liberal government the first, did he say, in a hundred years? | 他说一百年后 自由政府应该开始执政了吗? |
| 1249 | No, Mr. Amos, much as you would love to forget it, we've had a liberal government | 不,阿莫斯先生,尽管你很想忘记, 我们有一个自由政府 |
| 1250 | much more recently than that, a liberal coalition government headed by a certain | 更近些时候,一个自由联合政府 由某个人领导 |
| 1251 | Mr. Cameron and a certain Mr. Osborne. | 卡梅伦先生和奥斯本先生 |
| 1252 | 这时Lib Dems展示了他们 | |
| 1253 | true colors, when they had a choice as to which type of government they could prop | 真正的颜色 当他们可以选择什么样的政府时 |
| 1254 | up and to get their backsides on the back seat of a ministerial limousine, | 上楼去,然后让他们的后背 在部长轿车的后座上, |
| 1255 | they chose to prop up the government that brought you austerity, that brought | 他们选择支持政府 给你带来紧缩,带来 |
| 1256 | you a horrifying increase in child poverty during those years, that brought | 这些年来,儿童贫困的加剧令人恐惧,这带来了 |
| 1257 | you a failure to invest in anything that could actually stimulate the economy and | 你没有投资任何能真正刺激经济的东西 |
| 1258 | that ultimately, as we know, led to Brexit. | 最终,我们知道, 导致布雷克西特。 |
| 1259 | That's the recent, much more | 这是最近的事 更多 |
| 1260 | recent record of the Lib Dems in government and they don't deserve, I say | 最近Lib Dems在政府中的记录 他们不值得,我说 |
| 1261 | respectfully, your attention on matters of this kind. | 恕我直言,请大家注意这类问题。 |
| 1262 | And we have, of course, | 我们当然有 |
| 1263 | our friend from Reform. | 我们改革的朋友 |
| 1264 | I'm old enough to remember Mr. Rosendell when he was a | 我长大了 记得罗森戴尔先生 |
| 1265 | separately standard, slightly amusing Tory with a little bulldog dressed up in | 单挑标准,有点趣味的托里 穿着小斗牛犬 |
| 1266 | a Union Jack waistcoat. | a 联衣杰克。 |
| 1267 | And now, of course, he's changed. | 现在,他当然变了 |
| 1268 | He is our very own | 他是我们自己的 |
| 1269 | tonight celebrity traitor having thrown in his lot with Mr. Farage. | 今晚 名人叛徒 投进了他的地盘 与法拉吉先生。 |
| 1270 | And what did | 到底发生了什么 |
| 1271 | we hear from him? | 我们有他的消息吗? |
| 1272 | Apart from all the AI slop about going back to the 1970s, what | 除了那些回想1970年代的人工智能之外 |
| 1273 | did we actually hear about policies? | 我们真的听说过政策吗? |
| 1274 | There was a teasing reference to wanting | 有一则笑话提到渴望 |
| 1275 | to go back to 1997 and reverse some unnamed constitutional reforms that | 回溯到1997年,并扭转一些无名的宪法改革 |
| 1276 | apparently have led in some way to this country's present status, as he says, as | 正如他所说,显然在某种程度上导致了这个国家的现状。 |
| 1277 | a sick man of the world. | 是一个世界的病人。 |
| 1278 | Who knows what they are? | 谁知道他们是什么? |
| 1279 | It seems a bit niche to me. | 这对我来说有点特别 |
| 1280 | Do | 执行 |
| 1281 | we really need to go back and tinker with the Data Protection Act 1998? | 我们真的需要回去修补1998年的数据保护法? |
| 1282 | Is | 已经 |
| 1283 | that his problem? | 他的问题? |
| 1284 | Is it the Freedom of Information Act 2000? | 是《2000年新闻自由法》吗? |
| 1285 | Is devolution the | 是权力转移 |
| 1286 | thing that supposedly destroyed our armed forces? | 那些应该摧毁我们武装部队的东西? |
| 1287 | I mean, it's nonsense. | 我的意思是,这是胡说八道。 |
| 1288 | But | 不过 |
| 1289 | then again, a Freudian slip. | 再说一遍,佛洛伊德的滑板 |
| 1290 | He said, and I wrote it down, he said, it's not | 他说,我写下来,他说,这不是 |
| 1291 | about the state. | 关于州. |
| 1292 | It's about helping individuals who create wealth. | 而是帮助创造财富的个人. |
| 1293 | Well, that | 那个 |
| 1294 | is the Reform way, ladies and gentlemen. | 女士们先生们,这是改革的方式。 |
| 1295 | But ask yourself, which individuals who | 但问问你自己,谁 |
| 1296 | create wealth, do they want to help? | 他们能创造财富吗? |
| 1297 | How do they want to help them? | 他们想怎样帮助他们? |
| 1298 | And on what | 在什么问题上 |
| 1299 | terms? | 条件? |
| 1300 | The individuals who create wealth that Mr. Farage and his colleagues are | 法拉吉先生及其同事创造财富的个人 |
| 1301 | interested in are the sort of individuals we saw played in that case by actors on | 有兴趣的是,我们看到的 那种人 在那情况下,演员玩 |
| 1302 | our television screens not long ago, offering behind the scenes, under the | 我们的电视屏幕 不久前, 提供幕后, |
| 1303 | table, donations. | 表,捐赠. |
| 1304 | And Mr. Farage's acolytes being only too willing to pedal | 而法拉吉先生的阴茎只是太愿意踩踏 |
| 1305 | influence and to sell the prospect of access to the next Reform government. | 并出售进入下一个改革政府的机会。 |
| 1306 | God | 天呐 |
| 1307 | help us. | 帮帮我们 |
| 1308 | The people whose wealth they are interested in are the people who will | 他们所关心的财富是愿意 |
| 1309 | share some of that wealth with them, ideally personally through personal gifts, | 和他们分享一些财富 最好通过个人的礼物 |
| 1310 | if possible, otherwise to get them into office. | 如果可能的话,否则让他们上任。 |
| 1311 | They are not interested in | 他们不感兴趣 |
| 1312 | driving wealth creation other than for their own high command. | 推动创造财富,而不是为自己的最高命令。 |
| 1313 | And then, of | 礛 |
| 1314 | course, we've yet to hear fully from the Tories, but we had an eloquent | 当然,我们还没有完全听到 从托里斯, 但我们有一个雄辩的 |
| 1315 | introduction from the Honourable Gentleman from Merton. | 来自默顿的绅士阁下的介绍 |
| 1316 | The 1970s, the | 20世纪70年代, |
| 1317 | only major political figure who is presently cosplaying as a 1970s | 只有一位主要政治人物,他现在正在扮演1970年代的角色 |
| 1318 | politician or LARPing, as I gather the contemporary term is, is Kimmy Badenock, | 政治人物或拉平,据我所知, 当代术语是,Kimmy Badenock, |
| 1319 | who is obsessed with painting herself as Margaret Thatcher circa 1978. | 他沉迷于把自己画成1978年的玛格丽特·撒切尔 |
| 1320 | | |
| 1321 | actually published a policy paper which borrowed the title from a conservative | 其实是发表一篇政策文件 从保守派借来的 |
| 1322 | policy paper in 1978. | 1978年的政策文件。 |
| 1323 | She's a desperate LARPer. | 她是一个绝望的拉普。 |
| 1324 | And why does that worry me? | 为什么我担心? |
| 1325 | Why | 为什么 |
| 1326 | do I say it should worry you? | 我说你应该担心吗? |
| 1327 | Because listen to what Ms. Badenock and her | 因为听巴登克女士和她 |
| 1328 | colleagues wanted you to hear from the last conservative conference. | 同事们想听听上次保守派会议的消息 |
| 1329 | Two | 两个 |
| 1330 | messages, and they conveyed them successfully, and I think revealingly. | 他们成功地传达了讯息 我认为很明白 |
| 1331 | One, they want to do away with inheritance tax. | 一,他们想取消遗产税. |
| 1332 | That's their answer to | 这就是他们的答案 |
| 1333 | what they say is a battle for the soul of the nation. | 他们说的,是为国家的灵魂而战。 |
| 1334 | Get rid of inheritance | 摆脱继承 |
| 1335 | tax. | 税。 |
| 1336 | That's what's really holding us back. | 这才是真正阻止我们的原因. |
| 1337 | What nonsense. | 胡说 |
| 1338 | And secondly, | 第二,我们... |
| 1339 | they're very worried that too many people on benefits are using some of | 他们非常担心 太多领取福利的人 正在使用一些 |
| 1340 | those benefits to buy scratch cards. | 买刮卡的好处。 |
| 1341 | That's their diagnosis for the social | 这是他们对于社交的诊断 |
| 1342 | ills that plague this country. | 困扰这个国家的弊病。 |
| 1343 | That is the same old Tories, bribing the rich | 那可是老玩具,贿赂富人 |
| 1344 | and defaming the poor to try to get back into office. | 并诽谤穷人 试图回到办公室。 |
| 1345 | And I suggest this house | 我建议这房子 |
| 1346 | should have none of it. | 应该没有它。 |
| 1347 | This house should give that poor Cambridge-educated | 这房子应该能给剑桥受过教育的穷人 |
| 1348 | man a chance to actually run a country that he believes in, that this government | 人有机会管理一个他相信的国家 这个政府 |
| 1349 | believes in, that this government actually likes, that doesn't want to | 相信,这个政府其实喜欢,那不想 |
| 1350 | turn back the clock to some prior era, doesn't want to sell out our political | 回到以前的时代 不想出卖我们的政治 |
| 1351 | system, either to the Tories in a coalition government or to any foreign | 向联合政府中的托里斯或任何外国 |
| 1352 | millionaire who wants to buy influence, but actually wants to help this | 百万富翁想要买到影响力 但其实想帮忙 |
| 1353 | country's people succeed. | 国家人民成功。 |
| 1354 | I ask you to reject the motion. | 我请你拒绝动议 |
| 1355 | I thank Mr Fraser Campbell Casey for that fine speech. | 我感谢弗雷泽·坎贝尔·凯西先生的精彩讲话。 |
| 1356 | And now, to continue | 现在,继续 |
| 1357 | the case for the proposition, Lord Dominic Johnson. | 多米尼克·约翰逊勋爵,这个提议的理由 |
| 1358 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 1359 | Well, I'm sorry, I'm clearly clearing the room. | 抱歉,我正在清理房间 |
| 1360 | How did you know my | 你怎么会知道我的 |
| 1361 | speech was going to be this bad? | 演讲会这么糟吗? |
| 1362 | But thank you very much for those of you who | 但非常感谢你们中那些 |
| 1363 | are staying and thank you for inviting me to speak here this evening. | 感谢你邀请我今晚在这里发言 |
| 1364 | Thank you | 谢谢 |
| 1365 | also, by the way, Harry, for your introduction to me. | 顺便说一句,哈利,你给我介绍一下 |
| 1366 | And I'm sorry to say | 对不起 |
| 1367 | this in front of your delightful-looking mother and father, but I came here a | 这在你们可爱的妈妈和父亲面前 但我来到这里 |
| 1368 | year ago debating against the Labour Party. | 一年前在辩论反对工党。 |
| 1369 | You were speaking on behalf of the | 你当时是代表 |
| 1370 | Labour movement and we thrashed you. | 劳工运动和我们打你。 |
| 1371 | So I'm rather looking forward to doing it | 所以我很期待这样做 |
| 1372 | again this evening. | 今晚再来一次 |
| 1373 | But thank you very much for those kind words. | 但非常感谢你所说的客气话。 |
| 1374 | And I'm so | 我是这样 |
| 1375 | delighted to see so many freshers here, although some have walked out hands up | 很高兴看到这么多新人在这里, 虽然有些人已经走出了双手 |
| 1376 | if you're a fresher. | 如果你是一个新鲜的。 |
| 1377 | I've definitely got freshers' flues since a nice lady | 从一个好女人开始,我肯定有新鲜的烟雾 |
| 1378 | speaking on our side's been coughing all over me for much of the evening. | 说到我们这边 整晚都在咳嗽 |
| 1379 | And | 还有 |
| 1380 | well done for coming to the Union. | 做得很好 来到联盟。 |
| 1381 | This is such a great place. | 这地方好棒 |
| 1382 | When I joined the | 当我加入 |
| 1383 | Durham Union, I'm afraid I didn't go to Oxford, the president of the Union said | Durham Union 恐怕我没有去牛津 工会主席说 |
| 1384 | to me that debating is a bit like sex, he said. | 他说辩论有点像性 |
| 1385 | Well, I'm sorry to tell you it | 嗯,我很抱歉告诉你 |
| 1386 | isn't, but it's fabulous all the same. | 虽然不是 但还是很棒 |
| 1387 | And I've done a lot of debating, by the | 我做了很多辩论,根据 |
| 1388 | way, to prove the point. | 来证明这一点 |
| 1389 | And it's important because through debate and | 这很重要,因为通过辩论和 |
| 1390 | through discourse we get to the truth. | 我们通过对话了解真相。 |
| 1391 | This is the whole principle of this | 这是整个原则 |
| 1392 | forum this evening, to get to the truth. | 今晚的论坛, 得到真相。 |
| 1393 | And truth is crucial because you can | 真相至关重要,因为你可以 |
| 1394 | only be free, you can only have freedom if you have truth. | 只有自由,你才能有自由 如果你有真理。 |
| 1395 | And for me tonight is | 今晚对我来说 |
| 1396 | a battle between freedom, those who want to take it away from us, and those who | 自由之战 想要夺走自由的人和想要夺走自由的人 |
| 1397 | want to take it back and keep it. | 欲取还而留之. |
| 1398 | And the most important freedom there is, is the | 最重要的自由是... ... . . |
| 1399 | freedom from fear. | 免于恐惧。 |
| 1400 | And my extremely good friend, Araf, who spoke beautifully at the | 我非常好的朋友,阿拉夫, 他说话优美 |
| 1401 | beginning at very short notice, by the way, she even made another round of | 顺便说一句,从很短的时间开始 她甚至又做了一轮 |
| 1402 | applause because that was a hell of an applause. | 掌声 因为那真是热烈的掌声 |
| 1403 | He rightly pointed out | 他说得对 |
| 1404 | that we live in a great state of fear, crime, immigration, defence, tens of | 我们生活在恐惧 犯罪 移民 防卫 数十人 |
| 1405 | thousands of criminals released in the last few weeks alone. | 仅在过去几周就释放了数千名罪犯。 |
| 1406 | My good friend | 我亲爱的朋友 |
| 1407 | Fraser here probably helped spring them from their prisons. | 弗雷泽可能帮他们从监狱里逃出来 |
| 1408 | Uncontrolled porous | 无控制漏洞 |
| 1409 | borders, as my good friend Andrew Rosendale pointed out, which portrays a | 正如我的好朋友安德鲁·罗森代尔所指出,边境线描绘了 |
| 1410 | deep insecurity for the nation. | 国家极度不安全。 |
| 1411 | And as we heard earlier that extraordinary phrase, | 正如我们之前听到的 不寻常的短语, |
| 1412 | social security ahead of national security, welfare before warfare. | 社会保障先于国家安全,战前福利. |
| 1413 | The | 那个 |
| 1414 | one core function of a government is to defend its people and keep it safe, | 政府的一个核心职能是保卫人民,保障其安全, |
| 1415 | where everything that you do, coming to Oxford to learn, to aspire, to achieve, | 在那里你所做的一切,来到牛津学习, 渴望,实现, |
| 1416 | is worthless if we've been invaded by another country or you've been killed | 如果我们被别国入侵 或者你被杀了 就一文不值 |
| 1417 | by a criminal. | 一个罪犯。 |
| 1418 | So on that point alone, the government has fundamentally failed, | 光是这一点 政府根本失败了 |
| 1419 | which it should be ashamed and I hope you would support us. | 它应该感到羞愧 我希望你能支持我们 |
| 1420 | And the second | 和第二个 |
| 1421 | thing I want to say to you is that I want you to realise the best version of | 我想对你说,我希望你 实现最好的版本 |
| 1422 | myself. | 我个人 |
| 1423 | Who here wants to do well in their life? | 谁想在生活中做好事? |
| 1424 | Hands up. | 举起手来 |
| 1425 | Who aspires to make | 谁渴望创造 |
| 1426 | money, build a great life, have a great job, create a great country? | 钱,造大寿,有大业,造大国? |
| 1427 | Everything | 所有的东西 |
| 1428 | the government has done since they came in has been to take away my freedom to | 自从他们进来后,政府就一直 夺走我的自由 |
| 1429 | be able to achieve that. | 能够做到这一点。 |
| 1430 | They've raised my taxes, they've regulated me, they've | 他们提高我的税收, 他们管理我,他们 |
| 1431 | even limited how I can speak. | 我说话的方式甚至有限 |
| 1432 | This is an enormous problem because actually | 这是一个巨大的问题 因为实际上 |
| 1433 | Britain, and we haven't been celebratory enough about it, is the greatest country | 英国,我们没有 庆祝它,是伟大的国家 |
| 1434 | in the world as far as I'm concerned. | 就我而言,这世上 |
| 1435 | I'm standing in one of the most | 我站在一个最 |
| 1436 | extraordinary educational establishments ever created. | 曾经创建过非常的教育机构。 |
| 1437 | Of the top 10 | 10强中 |
| 1438 | universities in the world, does anyone know how many are in the UK? | 世界上的大学,谁知道有多少在英国? |
| 1439 | Hands up. | 举起手来 |
| 1440 | Who knows? | 谁知道呢? |
| 1441 | How many of the top 10 in the world? | 世间前十名中有多少人. |
| 1442 | Anyone? | 有人吗? |
| 1443 | Four. | 四门. |
| 1444 | Did someone say 10? | 有人说10号吗? |
| 1445 | That seems like a lot. | 这似乎很多。 |
| 1446 | It's actually only four but it's a hell of a lot. | 实际只有4个,但很多都是地狱. |
| 1447 | If you | 如果你们 |
| 1448 | round it up, that's half of the top universities in the world are in this | 把它围起来,这是一半 世界顶尖大学是在这个 |
| 1449 | country. | 国家。 |
| 1450 | We're the third biggest exporter of services in the world behind | 我们是世界第三大服务输出国 |
| 1451 | China and the United States. | 中国和美国. |
| 1452 | Two significant countries, wouldn't you say? | 两个重要国家,你说呢? |
| 1453 | And if you think of our tech sector, we have more unicorns. | 如果你想到我们的技术部门, 我们有更多的独角兽。 |
| 1454 | Everyone know what a | 每个人都知道什么是 |
| 1455 | unicorn is? | 独角兽是? |
| 1456 | More unicorns than the rest of Europe put together. | 独角兽比欧洲其他国家加起来还要多. |
| 1457 | In fact, | 事实上, |
| 1458 | if you took a hot air balloon and you looked down on England on a wonderful | 如果你拿一个热气球 你低头看英格兰 一个美妙的 |
| 1459 | day like today, what would you see? | 像今天一样,你会看到什么? |
| 1460 | You would see herds of | 你会看到牛群 |
| 1461 | unicorns galloping across the green fields of this nation with a | 独角兽横跨全国的绿地 |
| 1462 | sunlight glinting off their horns and hoofs. | 阳光照耀着他们的角和蹄 |
| 1463 | So we have | 所以我们有 |
| 1464 | everything here and Andy Burnham, our new Prime Minister, | 我们的新总理安迪·伯纳姆 |
| 1465 | he could at the press of a button or the stroke of a pen | 他可以在按键或笔的中风 |
| 1466 | free us to achieve our greatest potential but he doesn't. | 释放出我们最大的潜力 但他没有 |
| 1467 | Aside from the | 除了这个 |
| 1468 | fact we've heard he is from Cambridge and aside from the | 我们听说他来自剑桥 除了... |
| 1469 | fact, by the way, he supported Jeremy Corbyn and aside from the | 顺便说一句,他支持杰里米·科宾,除了... |
| 1470 | fact that unfortunately he was Chief | 可惜他当了局长 |
| 1471 | Secretary of the Treasury just before Britain went bankrupt. | 英国破产前的财政部长 |
| 1472 | All he's done | 他所做的一切 都结束了 |
| 1473 | since he came into power is focused on inanities | 自从他掌权以来 一直关注着虚无 |
| 1474 | and press relations stunts, of which we need no more. | 我们不需要这种特技 |
| 1475 | Netflix | 净弗利克斯 |
| 1476 | subscriptions was the first thing that he railed about. | 订阅是他首先关心的 |
| 1477 | Two-pound bus | 2磅公交车 |
| 1478 | fares, devolution, as my good friend Andrew Rosendell mentioned, the idea | 正如我的好朋友安德鲁·罗森戴尔提到的那样, |
| 1479 | that having a number 10 in Manchester will make us richer, will it make us | 在曼彻斯特拥有10号会让我们更富有, 它会让我们 |
| 1480 | happier, safer, give us longer lives? | 更快乐,更安全,给我们更长的生命? |
| 1481 | We know this not to be the case. | 我们知道情况并非如此。 |
| 1482 | And his | 还有他的 |
| 1483 | final point, and we heard so much of this from Stephen Pound, no thank you, | 最后一点 我们从Stephen Pound那里听到了这么多 不 谢谢 |
| 1484 | I like your trousers though, and we heard a lot of this from Stephen | 不过我喜欢你的裤子 我们从史蒂芬那里听到很多 |
| 1485 | Pound who I have the greatest respect for. | 我最敬重的一击 |
| 1486 | Nationalisation. | 国有化. |
| 1487 | Now most of us are | 现在我们大部分人 |
| 1488 | too young even me to realise how awful it was when the British Government ran | 连我都还太年轻 都不知道英国政府逃跑时有多可怕 |
| 1489 | things. | 东西。 |
| 1490 | Who here thinks the British Government does a good job? | 这里谁认为英国政府做得很好? |
| 1491 | I'm not | 我没有 |
| 1492 | talking about party political but delivers good services. | 谈论政党政治,但提供良好的服务。 |
| 1493 | Anyone put their | 谁都把他们的 |
| 1494 | hand up? | 手举起来? |
| 1495 | Two people. | 两人 |
| 1496 | So you think that if they now start running the railways | 所以,你认为 如果他们现在开始运行铁路 |
| 1497 | and the water works those things are going to get better? | 水的作用 那些东西会变得更好? |
| 1498 | There's a great | 有一个伟大的 |
| 1499 | line from Ronald Reagan. | 罗纳德·里根的专辑 |
| 1500 | He said, he described a wonderful situation | 他说,他描述了一个美妙的情况 |
| 1501 | communist Russia where a man goes to buy a car because that's what we're ending | 共产主义的俄罗斯 一个人去买车 因为这就是我们要结束的 |
| 1502 | up doing and the car salesman says I've got a wonderful car for you it'll be | 汽车推销员说我有一辆车给你 |
| 1503 | ready in five years time and he said five years time and he said yes but um | 5年后准备好,他说了5年,他说是的,但是... |
| 1504 | we give you a window for delivery do you want it delivered in the morning or the | 我们给你一个窗口 交付 你想它交付 在早晨或 |
| 1505 | afternoon and the guy said oh the afternoon please and the salesman said | 下午那人说下午好 推销员说 |
| 1506 | that seems pretty specific and he said yes I've got the plumber coming in the | 这似乎非常具体 他说是的 我让水管工进来了 |
| 1507 | morning and that's all heading back to groans from here but I don't think | 早上,所有 回到呻吟 从这里,但我不认为 |
| 1508 | everyone had heard that joke by the way I thought it was quite funny when I read | 所有人都听到这个笑话了 我读的时候觉得很有趣 |
| 1509 | it the other day. | 那天我看见了 |
| 1510 | Now if you turn the argument around because we are in a | 现在,如果你扭转争论 因为我们在一个 |
| 1511 | debate and if you're a socialist hands up if you're a labor supporter hands | 辩论 如果你是社会主义者 举起手来 如果你是劳动支持者 |
| 1512 | up if you're a labor supporter there are some of you dupes out there even at this | 如果你是劳动支持者 你们中有些人甚至还在这里 |
| 1513 | amazing university I mean I thought that the people bright enough to come to | 令人惊叹的大学,我的意思是,我认为 人们聪明到可以来 |
| 1514 | Oxford would know that you're being duped because if you are a labor | 牛津知道你被骗是因为如果你是个劳工 |
| 1515 | supporter this government has done nothing for you. | 支持政府没有为你做任何事 |
| 1516 | If you think of the key | 如果你想到钥匙 |
| 1517 | tenets of what labor support the economically vulnerable by the workers | 劳动者支持经济弱势者的原则 |
| 1518 | rights legislation these people now can't get jobs because of the energy | 这些人因为精力不够 找不到工作 |
| 1519 | policies truly simple emotional political nonsense people can't heat | 政策真的很简单 情感政治废话 人们不能热 |
| 1520 | their homes they can't afford to buy the food because of those price feed | 因为他们的家 买不起食物 因为那些价格饲料 |
| 1521 | throughs so the economically vulnerable are not looked after instead all the | 这样经济弱势者就不会得到照顾 |
| 1522 | government have tried to do we've heard this is raise the welfare benefits to | 政府试图这样做 我们听说这是提高福利福利 |
| 1523 | trap people away from the dignity of creating their own life and standing on | 使人们远离创造自己生命的尊严 |
| 1524 | their own two feet and the next are the three key labor tenets of the future | 他们自己的两只脚,接下来是未来的三大劳动原则 |
| 1525 | generations this is you guys by the way so listen up you're going to leave | 世世代代,你们这些家伙 听好了,你们要走了 |
| 1526 | university personally with tens of thousands of pounds in debt you are | 你身负数万磅债务的大学 |
| 1527 | going to leave university with trillions of pounds of additional debt on your | 准备离开大学 背负数万亿磅的额外债务 |
| 1528 | shoulders because they are not brave enough this prime minister isn't brave | 因为他们不够勇敢 这位首相不够勇敢 |
| 1529 | enough to be true with us about what we can afford and he's not willing to take | 足够和我们说实话了 我们付得起的,他不愿意接受 |
| 1530 | the difficult decisions to create growth that will enable us to earn the money to | 创造增长的艰难决定 将使我们能够挣钱 |
| 1531 | pay the bills I am so sorry for you I left university with no debt because I | 付帐单,对不起,我离开大学,没有债务 因为我 |
| 1532 | was paid to go to university and minimal national debt and you won't and the last | 付了钱去上大学 和最低的国债 而你不会和最后 |
| 1533 | people who labor stand for are the working classes how are the working | 工人们是工人阶级,他们是如何工作的? |
| 1534 | classes currently served by this labor government no one I've met believes they | 我见过的没有人相信他们 |
| 1535 | either stand up for them or illustrated in their policy principles how they're | 或支持他们,或在其政策原则中说明他们是如何的 |
| 1536 | going to make their life better because all we've heard from the opposition is | 我们从反对派那里听到的就是 |
| 1537 | how terrible we are no one has put forward a plan for Britain in my last | 多么可怕,我们没有人 提出一个计划 英国在我的最后一个 |
| 1538 | few moments if I may madam secretary I want to talk a bit about my life I was | 几秒钟,如果我可以 秘书夫人 我想谈谈我的生活,我曾经 |
| 1539 | born poor you may not believe it but we had an outdoor lavatory with a sort of | 生来就很可怜,你可能不相信 但我们有室外厕所 |
| 1540 | heated light I had to wear a school uniform rather than casual clothes I know | 发热的灯光,我不得不穿校服,而不是我认识的便衣 |
| 1541 | I can see the tears coming down your cheeks but I was lucky I got a bursary | 我看见你脸颊流着泪 但我很幸运我拿到奖学金 |
| 1542 | to a great boarding school Marlborough College I went to Durham for free I got a | 我免费去达勒姆寄宿学校 |
| 1543 | job I bought a house I built great wealth for myself and I've ended up a | 我买了个房子 我为自己建了个大房子 结果却成了 |
| 1544 | that's a great journey thank you very much with someone clapping I'm delighted | 旅途愉快 非常感谢有人鼓掌 我很高兴 |
| 1545 | about that thank you that that's a that's a great journey through my own effort | 感谢您,这是一个伟大的旅程 通过我自己的努力 |
| 1546 | and a lot of luck and people supporting me but the most important thing is I did | 运气和人们支持我 但最重要的是我做了 |
| 1547 | that in a framework where I was free to do it you guys I'm sorry to say because | 在一个框架里,我做它的自由 伙计们,我很抱歉说,因为 |
| 1548 | of the actions of these individuals here and the government they support directly | 这些人的行动和他们直接支持的政府 |
| 1549 | because of the choices that they have made you won't be able to afford the house | 因为他们的选择 你买不起房子 |
| 1550 | that I bought you can't go to the school that I went to because they put taxes up | 我买下你不能去我上过的学校 因为他们把税加起来 |
| 1551 | on education you won't be able to keep the wealth and you won't be able to take | 在教育方面 你无法保住财富 也无法接受 |
| 1552 | the journey that I took from a house with an outdoor bog to the house of | 我从一个有室外沼泽的房子 来到了 |
| 1553 | lords and I'm very sorry about that for you but tonight you can do something | 大人们,我很抱歉,但今晚你可以做点什么 |
| 1554 | about it this extraordinary chamber resonates across the country and if you | 这间特别的庭院在全国引起共鸣 如果你 |
| 1555 | vote for us and show the country that you understand their needs that will | 投票给我们,并向国家表明你理解他们的需要 |
| 1556 | an important signal to number 10 Downing Street and we will have removed the first brick away | 向唐宁街10号发出重要信号 我们将拆除第一块砖头 |
| 1557 | from this complacent government to call an election to allow you to make a fresh choice | 从这个自满的政府召集选举 让你做出新的选择 |
| 1558 | that is why I hope you support the proposition thank you very much I thank Lord Dominic Johnson | 这就是为什么我希望你支持这个提议 非常感谢你 非常感谢多米尼克·约翰逊勋爵 |
| 1559 | for that fine speech and now to continue the case for the opposition I call upon Lord Paul Murphy | 我恳求保罗·墨菲大人 |
| 1560 | when I came to Aurel in 1967 I came from the working class my father was a coal miner | 1967年我来到奥雷尔时 我来自工人阶级 我父亲是煤矿工人 |
| 1561 | I was the first person in my family to go to university because of the 1945 labor government | 我是全家第一个上大学的人 因为1945年的劳动政府 |
| 1562 | and because of a labor council if they hadn't done it I wouldn't have come here | 也因为一个劳动委员会 如果他们不这样做,我就不会来这里 |
| 1563 | it's as simple as that but it's good to be with you the last time I came to this great hall to | 就这么简单... ...但是我上次来到这个大大厅时... |
| 1564 | exactly the same debate was 21 years ago I thought I was going to say that that was the | 完全相同的辩论是21年前 我想说,这就是 |
| 1565 | time when most of you hadn't even been born but since we've had a rather large exodus of people | 那时候你们大半还没出生 但自从我们人口大量外流 |
| 1566 | I think probably I know I've got an older audience to talk to this evening so it was 21 years ago | 我想我大概知道我有 年长的观众 今晚谈话,所以它是21年前 |
| 1567 | I was with Michael Heseltine debating on whether Tony Blair's government | 我和迈克尔·海瑟汀在争论托尼·布莱尔的政府 |
| 1568 | should be supported or not and I'm glad to say that they agreed with me and we won the motion | 我很高兴他们同意我的意见 我们赢得了这个动议 |
| 1569 | three or four weeks later there was a general election and we won that general election of 2005 | 三四个星期后,举行了大选,我们赢得了2005年大选。 |
| 1570 | now that was the last general election that my party won for 19 years | 那是我党19年来最后一次大选 |
| 1571 | and part of what we've heard this evening it isn't simply about whether you like this government or | 我们今晚听到的 不只是你喜欢这个政府还是 |
| 1572 | not is what the government faced in 2024 after 14 years of conservative and indeed at one stage | 与2024年政府面临的情况不同, |
| 1573 | liberal government as well of course there was austerity of course our public services declined | 自由政府当然也实行紧缩 我们的公共服务当然下降 |
| 1574 | over those 14 years and it isn't right by the way that we were bankrupt it was all a question | 14年来,我们破产了,这是个问题 |
| 1575 | of what was happening in the world I was a member of the national economic council as the as a | 我曾经是国民经济委员会的成员 |
| 1576 | member of the cabinet and what Gordon Brown did was if anything to save the world from economic | 内阁成员 Gordon Brown所做的是 如果有什么能拯救世界 |
| 1577 | disaster but nevertheless we lost and that austerity was there for 14 years and when we've | 但尽管如此,我们还是输了 14年来的紧缩 以及当我们 |
| 1578 | listened tonight to complaints about prisoners being let out but why were they let out they | 今晚听到关于囚犯被放出来的投诉 但为什么他们被放出来 |
| 1579 | didn't spend a penny on prisoners in all those 14 years and they were full up so we had no option | 这14年没有花一分钱给犯人 他们都满了 所以我们别无选择 |
| 1580 | but to do precisely that after the decade and a half of Tory government and of course in that time | 但正是在10年半的 托里政府之后, 当然在那个时候 |
| 1581 | we had the Brexit vote Stephen referred to the fact that it was the most disastrous | 我们让布莱克西特的投票 史蒂芬提到一个事实 这是最灾难性的 |
| 1582 | vote most disastrous policy in my political lifetime my former constituency gained tens | 我的政治生涯中最灾难性的投票政策 我以前的选区赢得了几十个 |
| 1583 | and tens of millions of pounds as a consequence of being a member of the European community and | 和几千万英镑,因为是欧洲社会的一员, |
| 1584 | that was a major disaster which we've never really recovered from and then to look at the final | 那是一场重大灾难 我们从来没有真正恢复过 然后看看最后 |
| 1585 | years of that government I was in the house of Collins for a short time and then went to the | 在那届政府里,我在柯林斯家呆了很短一段时间 然后去了 |
| 1586 | place to witness the pantomime of Johnson the pantomime of trust and is it any wonder that | Johnson的童话 信任的童话 |
| 1587 | when the time came for a general election they'd had enough of them they had enough of them and | 当大选到来的时候 他们已经受够了 他们已经受够了 |
| 1588 | I'm glad to say that we can't wipe away from the public memory what happened in those 14 years | 我很高兴地说,我们不能抹去 公众的记忆 在这14年发生的事情 |
| 1589 | now I'm not saying for one second when Keir took over in 2024 in that last two years of the Labour | 现在我不是说一秒钟 当基尔在2024年接任 工党的最后两年 |
| 1590 | government that all was well of course it didn't all go well the winter fuel allowance issue | 政府,一切都很好,当然, 它不是都很好 冬季燃料补贴问题 |
| 1591 | was disastrous and was reversed the issue for example on inheritance tax on farming that was | 其后果是灾难性的,并扭转了农业继承税等问题。 |
| 1592 | the same and was reversed but I say this to you that I make no apologies whatsoever for improving | 也一样,但被推翻了... ...但是我告诉你,我并不为改进而道歉 |
| 1593 | the rights of workers in this country in the way they work I make no apology whatsoever for | 这个国家的工人在工作方式上的权利,我并不为 |
| 1594 | improving the rights of leaseholders I make no apology whatsoever for recognizing the state of | 改善租户的权利 我对承认 |
| 1595 | Palestine all those were issues which we did under Keir Starmer and I believe they were the | 巴勒斯坦所有这些问题都是我们在凯尔·斯塔默领导下做的,我认为它们是 |
| 1596 | right things to do but they weren't good enough in the elections earlier this year in my part of the | 但在今年早些时候的选举中,他们做得不够好 |
| 1597 | country in Wales in our country there we lost disastrously in Scotland in parts of England | 我们的苏格兰在英格兰部分地区惨败 |
| 1598 | it wasn't good enough and it was necessary to have a change but all the good that Keir had done | 不够好,必须改变 但基尔所做的一切 |
| 1599 | we had to have a change and I think the change is the right one I think that Andy Burnham is | 我们不得不改变 我认为改变是正确的 我认为安迪・伯纳姆是 |
| 1600 | the right man for the job I've known him for 25 years I sat in the cabinet with him I was with | 我认识他25年了 我和他坐在柜子里 |
| 1601 | him yesterday talking about the issues that he is so serious about now can anyone here doubt | 他昨天谈到他现在如此严肃的问题 任何人都可以怀疑 |
| 1602 | that a national care service is what this country wants I have seen in 50 years of representing | 国家护理服务是这个国家想要的 我50年来代表 |
| 1603 | people in one form or another the disaster of our social care system and it has to change | 我们社会关怀体系的灾难,必须改变 |
| 1604 | I remember Tony Blair going around the cabinet table many years ago saying to each of us what's | 我记得托尼·布莱尔很多年前绕着柜台 跟我们每个人说 |
| 1605 | the issue you think is going to be most significant over the next 20 or 30 years and I had no | 你认为这个问题 将是最重要的 在未来20到30年 而我没有 |
| 1606 | hesitation whatsoever to say that it was social care and so he's right on having a national care | 犹豫不决地说这是社会关怀 所以他有国民关怀是对的 |
| 1607 | service and he's right in looking at the voting system I've been an advocate of the first past | 服务,他是正确的 看投票系统 我曾经是第一历史的倡导者 |
| 1608 | the vote system for many years but I'm getting my doubts I think we're in a multi-party setup now a | 多年来的投票制度... ...但我开始怀疑... ...我想我们是在多党制中 |
| 1609 | structure all together and we need to look at it but can anybody say at all that nationalization | 整个结构,我们需要看看它, 但任何人都可以说 国有化 |
| 1610 | of the railways is a bad thing can anyone say that this terrible state of our water industry | 铁路是坏事 任何人都可以说 水工业的这种可怕的状态 |
| 1611 | is a good thing can anyone point to privatization which has helped every ordinary person | 是好事,任何人都可以指 私有化 已经帮助了每一个普通人 |
| 1612 | in this country over the last 10 years of course you can't go out and ask the opinion polls to what | 在过去十年里,你无法出去 问民意调查的结果是什么 |
| 1613 | they say and they'll tell you that we need seriously to consider bringing back into public | 他们说,他们会告诉你, 我们需要认真考虑 带回公众 |
| 1614 | ownership the water industry and the railways which we are doing and also possibly some of | 拥有水产业和铁路,而我们正在这样做,可能还有部分 |
| 1615 | the energy companies as well and I also believe that Andy Burnham is absolutely right on ensuring | 我还认为安迪·伯纳姆在确保 |
| 1616 | that Ukraine is backed Zelensky was in London yesterday with the Prime Minister | 乌克兰得到支持 泽连斯基昨天在伦敦和总理在一起 |
| 1617 | and we've got to do everything in our power to stop Trump destroying that country everything | 我们必须竭尽所能 阻止川普摧毁这个国家 |
| 1618 | because liberty itself freedom itself is at stake in our continent and also I believe very clearly | 因为自由本身在我们大陆处于危险之中 我也坚信 |
| 1619 | that we should be heading towards greater union of some sort or another with the European | 我们应当走向与欧洲的某种或另一种联盟。 |
| 1620 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}我并不是在暗示 {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}那意味着加入他们 | |
| 1621 | that we need to be closer to our nearest neighbors and so I think we've heard tonight what other | 所以今晚我们听说了其他的 |
| 1622 | parties say I was amused with the Honorable Member for Taunton most of which I agreed other than | 党内人士说,我对塔恩顿的荣誉成员很感兴趣,我同意除了 |
| 1623 | to suggest that if you vote confidence which in parliamentary terms being you bring down a government | 暗示如果你投下信任票... ...在议会的哪些方面... |
| 1624 | that's the way to make that government more progressive I can't quite see the logic | 这才是让政府更进步的方法 我无法完全理解逻辑 |
| 1625 | in that one and whether the 72 members of the Liberal Democrats in the House of Commons would | 以及下议院72名自由民主党议员是否会 |
| 1626 | actually do that very much doubt it to bring in a reform government if that's to be the case | 如果真是这样的话,那么就让政府改革 实在是太怀疑了 |
| 1627 | and so finally I say to you is that yes we've had 18 Prime Ministers since the Second World War | 最后,我告诉你,是的,我们有18个总理 自第二次世界大战以来 |
| 1628 | 14 of them have come from this great university none from Aurel I'm afraid but 14 came this | 14个来自这个伟大的大学 恐怕没有来自奥雷尔 但有14个来了 |
| 1629 | Cambridge man this Andy Burnham holds hope for us all and don't whatever we do underestimate don't | 剑桥人这个安迪·伯纳姆 给我们带来希望 并且不要低估我们所做的一切 |
| 1630 | undervalue the importance of boldness and of hope he gives us that anyone who saw this conference | 他低估了大胆的重要性和给我们的希望 任何看到这个会议的人 |
| 1631 | speech will see how sincere he is on that and so tonight I want you to defeat this motion | 演讲会看到他有多真诚 所以今晚我要你击败这个动议 |
| 1632 | with all the strength that you've got I thank you Lord Murphy for that fine speech now I'm | 以你的力量,我感谢你 墨菲勋爵的精彩演讲 现在我 |
| 1633 | going to call for another pair of floor speeches so if you would like to speak for the proposition | 请大家发言,如果您愿意的话 |
| 1634 | please raise your cards all right how about the gentleman in the blue zip-up sweater all the way | 请举起牌来,怎么样先生 在蓝色的拉链毛衣一路 |
| 1635 | back over there yes you yes well dear comrades I'd like to start by saying just how much it pains | 回到那边是的,是的,是的,好的 同志们... ...我想首先说... |
| 1636 | me to be on this side of the house sharing well with the Liberal Democrat and that really is a | 我站在房子的这一边 与自由民主党人分享的很好 这真的是一个 |
| 1637 | sort of a source of embarrassment and with the Reform MP as well but naturally my instinct is | 有点尴尬 和改革党议员,但自然我的本能是 |
| 1638 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}就站在这栋房子的一边 {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}那栋房子的雄辩令人惊叹 | |
| 1639 | a joy to listen to you for the opposition but my doubt comes from the fact that if we look at all | 我很乐于为反对派倾听你的呼声 但我的怀疑来自于一个事实 如果我们一看 |
| 1640 | the great Prime Ministers of history all of the great governments there has been some kind of real | 伟大的历史总理们 所有伟大的政府 都有某种真正的 |
| 1641 | revolutionary transformative agenda at the heart of what they want to do and your side of the house | 革命性变革议程 核心 他们想做什么 和你的房子一方 |
| 1642 | has put it so so clearly the legacy of Tory, Thatcherite, Monetarist, Deindustrialisation | 托里、撒切尔特、莫内塔里斯特、去工业化的遗产 |
| 1643 | and I'm in such complete agreement with you violent agreement with you about that but I don't see | 我完全同意你对你的暴力协议 但我看不出来 |
| 1644 | within the the Burnham project or the Starmer project or really the wider PLP any kind of real | 伯纳姆计划或星际争霸计划 或更广大的PLP计划 |
| 1645 | economic analysis to challenge that there's no revolutionary alternative form of government that | 经济分析来挑战 没有革命的替代政府形式 |
| 1646 | I can see bubbling away somewhere under the surface and that's what that's what annoys me | 我可以看到在地表下面的某个地方 涌动着,这就是让我烦恼的原因 |
| 1647 | that's why I can't support this government and I think that in order to to really grapple with | 这就是为什么我不能支持这个政府 我认为为了真正解决 |
| 1648 | the problems that you all of you have laid out so plainly and so clearly and with such grace | 你们都清楚明了地 以如此优雅地阐述的问题 |
| 1649 | that is really what lies at the heart of it I don't see any kind of way any revolutionary | 这才是它的核心 我不觉得有什么革命性的东西 |
| 1650 | actually transformative nature that's going to bring through so it is with great regret | 真正的变革性 将带来通过 所以它非常遗憾 |
| 1651 | that I have to support the motion thank you very much and now a floor speech in favor of the | 我不得不支持这个动议 非常感谢你 现在发言支持 |
| 1652 | opposition uh okay uh the lady who's just raised their card yeah I am an American and I have not | 反对,嗯... ... 那个刚刚举牌的女士... |
| 1653 | learned the government yet I know there's the Reform Party and there's the Labour Party and | 学会了政府 但我知道有改革党 还有工党 |
| 1654 | there's probably Ravenclaw in there too but what I do know from this debate is rhetoric and that's | 里面可能还有雷文克劳 但我从这场辩论中知道 |
| 1655 | what I've been picking up on I've been trying to pick up the values of each side because when you | 我一直在想 每一边的价值观 因为当你 |
| 1656 | have an argument and you get down to what people really disagree on it's always values and so | 有争论,你下到什么 人们真正不同意 它总是价值,所以 |
| 1657 | that's what I've been trying to learn from the opposition and the proposition and what I've | 这就是我一直试图 从反对派 和命题,我有什么 |
| 1658 | detected is that the opposition has a love for Britain that I do not see supported in the | 发现反对派对英国的爱, |
| 1659 | the proposition consistently attacks not the Labour Party but Britain itself which is a scope far too | 这个提议一直攻击的不是工党,而是英国本身, 英国本身也是个范围 |
| 1660 | wide for this discussion you do not lack confidence in the Labour Party but in Britain you harp on | 你对工党并不缺乏信心 但在英国你却对 |
| 1661 | things like Brexit which is not a fault of the Labour Party and when you say that Britain is a | 布莱克西特不是工党的错 当你说英国是一个 |
| 1662 | country that has more confidence in it from Putin and Hamas than its own people you insult the | 普京和哈马斯对它更有信心的国家 比他们自己的人民还多 你侮辱他们 |
| 1663 | authorities in power are are so foolish to let open the door to Putin and Hamas and everything | 让普京和哈马斯 以及一切事情敞开大门 |
| 1664 | then how foolish are the people for following them you insult the the British services and use the | 那人们跟随他们是多么的愚蠢 你侮辱了英国人 |
| 1665 | river Thames Thames you guys say that one as a punch line whereas you guys support the services | 泰晤士河 泰晤士河 你们说一个作为一击线 而你们支持的服务 |
| 1666 | and you believe in a Britain where those public services do good and when I see that happening | 你相信英国的公共服务是好的 当我看到这种情况发生时 |
| 1667 | when I see that love for the country happening on one side and not in the other I'm reminded | 当我看到对祖国的爱 发生在一边而不是另一边 我被提醒 |
| 1668 | my own country and the people I believe in too because in the US we we talk about no confidence | 我所信仰的祖国和人民 因为在美国 我们谈论的是不信任 |
| 1669 | it's not a matter of tradition it's a matter of reflex and so the people who do not have confidence | 这不是传统问题 而是反射问题 所以没有信心的人 |
| 1670 | in the American government and lead it in the wrong direction do not have that love of country | 在美国政府领导它走向错误的方向 并没有那种对国家的爱 |
| 1671 | and when I see love of country I see something good and I see it in this side and that's why I | 当我看到对祖国的爱 我看到一些好的事物,我看到它在这里, 这就是为什么我 |
| 1672 | have to support the opposition okay all right last but certainly not least to close the case | 一定要支持反对派 好吧,最后但肯定不是最不重要的是结案 |
| 1673 | out for the proposition I call upon Anya Peshaka firstly I'd like to say but I was | 为了这个提议,我首先呼吁安雅·佩沙卡。 我想说,但我当时 |
| 1674 | awfully surprised a few hours ago when I was asked to speak in this debate I was even more | 几小时前我被邀请在这场辩论中发言 我更惊讶 |
| 1675 | surprised when I was asked to speak for the proposition I know that I have notably gone | 当有人要求我为这个提议发言时,我感到惊讶,我知道,我特别走了 |
| 1676 | between political parties however my actual allegiance is with the Labour Party however | 但是,我实际上效忠于工党 |
| 1677 | I do have to say I do have some concerns to begin I'd like to apologize those who came here | 我不得不说,我确实有一些 担心开始 我想道歉的人 谁来到这里 |
| 1678 | for David Davis and Moffin Ali due to some last-minute changes you'll have to listen to me | 大卫・戴维斯和莫芬・阿里 由于一些最后的改变 你将不得不听我说 |
| 1679 | instead however I do plan to speak about the European Union and nationalization just as much | 不过,我确实计划谈论欧盟和国有化 |
| 1680 | so do not worry I'd like to begin by stating clearly I agree with the direction that Annie | 所以别担心 我首先要明确指出 我同意安妮的指示 |
| 1681 | has chosen completely over the last 40 years of successive governments we have seen that | 在过去40年中,我们相继选择了 |
| 1682 | privatization has failed we're outsourcing our services and the public are paying the price for | 私有化失败了 我们正在外包我们的服务 公众要付出代价 |
| 1683 | that Burnham isn't wrong Burnham isn't wrong when saying that privatization has failed but just being | 伯纳姆没有错 伯纳姆没有错 当说私有化失败了 |
| 1684 | aware of it doesn't make a difference being aware of your freshest flu which has now been pointed | 知道你现在最新鲜的流感 也没什么区别 |
| 1685 | out thank you very much um being aware of your freshest flu doesn't do anything if you're still | 谢谢你,嗯... ... 知道你最新鲜的流感... |
| 1686 | drinking every night as I'm sure many of us currently are I am clearly not very right-wing | 每天晚上喝酒,我敢肯定,我们很多人现在都是 我显然不是非常右翼 |
| 1687 | however I'm also not far left I believe in pragmatism and governing based on what works | 但我也不远 我相信实用主义 以及基于什么行之有效的治理 |
| 1688 | and avoiding what doesn't as we seem to have forgotten to be completely honest we've seen | 避免我们似乎忘记的 完全诚实,我们已经看到了 |
| 1689 | public ownership work however we need the initiative to pursue it admitting that the | 然而,我们需要采取主动行动,争取承认: |
| 1690 | consensus doesn't work is one thing and change changing course is another I do not have full | 共识不起作用是一回事,改变方向是另一件事,我没有满满的 |
| 1691 | confidence that his majesty's government is willing to take the key steps necessary to put | 相信陛下政府愿意采取必要的关键步骤 |
| 1692 | Britain back on track some of Burnham's loudest pledges have been around housing beginning on | 英国回到轨道上 一些伯纳姆最响亮的保证 已经围绕着住房开始 |
| 1693 | rough sleeping Burnham has announced 102 million pound scheme to help those without shelter | 粗睡的伯纳姆宣布了1.02亿英镑的计划 帮助那些没有避难所的人 |
| 1694 | everyone in sounds lovely but it's only a temporary solution as it was intended when it was brought | 每个人听起来都不错 但这只是一个临时的解决方案 因为它是被送来的 |
| 1695 | in during Covid it doesn't offer any meaningful long-term support to keep people from falling | 在科维德期间 它没有提供任何有意义的长期支持 防止人们下降 |
| 1696 | into homelessness in the first place these kinds of solutions are great for a news headline | 首先,这些解决方案对新闻头条很重要 |
| 1697 | but not very useful for those who are actively struggling and those who may fall into it in the | 但对于那些积极挣扎的人和那些可能陷入其中的人来说,并不十分有用。 |
| 1698 | future on housing availability Burnham has announced the your first home scheme first time buyers | Burnham首次宣布了你的首次购房计划 |
| 1699 | are locked out of the housing market we're all aware of it however the solution is not rebranding | 被锁在房市之外 我们都知道 但解决办法不是重新命名 |
| 1700 | a failed abolished osborne era policy we had it we got rid of it we brought it back but instead | 一个失败的废旧时代政策 我们有它 我们摆脱它 我们把它带回来 |
| 1701 | 5% deposit we're going for 2.5% why are we lending to those who can't afford to borrow | 5%的存款,我们用2.5%, 为什么我们贷款给那些无力借钱的人 |
| 1702 | we did we saw that in the early 2000s and then we got 2008 let's not go back to it this policy | 我们从2000年代初到2008年都看到过 我们不要再继续这个政策了 |
| 1703 | addresses non-existence demand side issues and it is not going to solve the supply side issues | 解决不存在的需求方问题,解决不了供应方问题 |
| 1704 | that we have I believe it was a shortage of 6.5 million homes in the UK we need to focus on the | 我认为,英国缺少650万户住房,我们需要集中力量 |
| 1705 | and most notably of social housing which we sold off since the 1970s rather than having people | 特别是我们从1970年代以来卖掉的社会住房 而不是人 |
| 1706 | rent from the government the government pays out benefits in huge amounts so that people can pay | 政府支付巨额福利,让人民能够支付 |
| 1707 | rent private landlords plus have a premium of profit attached that's not sustainable that's | 租房的私人房东 加上附加的利润 无法维持 |
| 1708 | not going to cut down the size of the government and it's not going to cut down the amount that we | 不削减政府规模 也不削减我们的数量 |
| 1709 | pay in tax it's only going to spiral I'm going to move on onto an even more crucial aspect | 交税,只会螺旋上升 我将进入一个更重要的方面 |
| 1710 | which is water water companies are drowning in debt while we are drowning in sewage it is | 我们被污水淹没时 水上公司却负债累累 |
| 1711 | completely unreasonable to pay more for the privilege of aging infrastructure and constant | 付更多钱给老旧的基础设施 和恒定的 |
| 1712 | pollution Burnham has again recognized that the current system doesn't work and has announced a | 伯纳姆再次认识到,目前的系统不起作用,并宣布 |
| 1713 | water bill repealing Thatcher's ban on public ownership of water companies I don't see where | 水法案废除了撒切尔对水公司公共所有权的禁令 我看不出在哪里 |
| 1714 | that gets us when our local authorities can't even afford to buy out these water companies | 我们的地方当局连买不起这些水公司都买不起 |
| 1715 | our local authorities are like going bankrupt more often than not it's not a useful policy so | 我们的地方当局好像经常破产,所以这不是一个有用的政策 |
| 1716 | if we want to see change if we want to stop paying a premium for subpar services we are going to | 如果我们想看到变化 如果我们想停止支付 附加费服务 |
| 1717 | need full nationalization we are not going to see any success otherwise water companies currently | 需要完全国有化 我们不会看到任何成功 否则水公司目前 |
| 1718 | have 60 billion pounds of liabilities and can't maintain their infrastructure and yet they're | 有600亿磅的负债 无法维持他们的基础设施 但他们仍然 |
| 1719 | still pumping out both sewage and dividends to their shareholders privatization is obviously | 排污和股息都给股东私有化了 |
| 1720 | expensive in the short term but it's not any different than paying a premium in the long term | 短期内很贵 但从长远来看 这跟付保险费没什么两样 |
| 1721 | year on year legalizing public ownership is fine but local government can't afford it the same | 将公有制合法化是好的,但地方政府负担不起 |
| 1722 | approach goes to energy British consumers face some of the highest energy prices within Europe | 英国消费者面临欧洲最高能源价格 |
| 1723 | we sold off the grid and rely on private energy companies and haven't invested properly in our | 我们卖掉电网 依靠私人能源公司 却没好好投资 |
| 1724 | infrastructure we've announced the great British grid sounds lovely but we still it doesn't matter | 英国的基础设施听起来不错 但我们还是无所谓了 |
| 1725 | we own the wires that our energy goes through if we still can't own and support the production | 我们拥有我们的能量所经过的线 如果我们仍然不能拥有和支持生产 |
| 1726 | of energy especially when we are so reliant on coal and gas we see what's happening now | 特别是当我们如此依赖煤和煤气的时候,我们看到现在发生了什么 |
| 1727 | the US is going a bit mad um more than usual and we are seeing we are seeing energy prices shoot | 美国变得有点疯狂 比平常更疯狂 我们看到能源价格下跌 |
| 1728 | up it doesn't matter if we use our own oil it's still traded on international markets | 如果用我们自己的石油 它仍然在国际市场交易 |
| 1729 | we can't keep going in the direction which we currently are while we often hate the thought | 我们无法继续沿着我们目前的方向前进 而我们却常常讨厌这种想法 |
| 1730 | the French do occasionally get it right they own their own energy and they get lower prices and | 法国人偶尔会得到正确的, 他们拥有自己的能源, 他们得到较低的价格, |
| 1731 | cleaner energy with around 70 percent from nuclear energy I think like we're not going far enough on | 更清洁的能源 约70%来自核能 我认为我们没有足够远 |
| 1732 | that either so I think love what Burnham's doing like he sees what's wrong but it doesn't make a | 所以我认为伯纳姆的爱 就像他看到了什么是错的,但它不意味着一个 |
| 1733 | difference if he isn't actually doing anything to change it it's just baby steps and I don't know | 如果他真的没有做任何改变 它只是婴儿步,我不知道 |
| 1734 | if I'm confident that he will go further continuing from America going mad we've all seen the | 如果我相信他会继续 从美国走得更远 疯狂,我们都看到了 |
| 1735 | situation and I don't think any people in this room seriously view a state that considers public | 我觉得这间屋子里的人 并没有严肃地看待一个 认为公共的状态 |
| 1736 | executions to be an ally why are we then not pulling away from the US with more vigor at the | 为什么我们不从美国撤出? |
| 1737 | EU why then has he kicked the football down the line again why what is the point of Stammer's | 为什么他又把足球踢下台 为什么Stammer的点是什么 |
| 1738 | red lines if they are shackles on the UK we've heard enough about the trade consequences of | 红线如果在英国是枷锁 我们听够了 |
| 1739 | leaving the EU we all know we shot ourselves in the foot however I'm going to talk about an | 离开欧盟 我们都知道我们自己被射中了脚 但我要说的是 |
| 1740 | alternative angle our sovereignty the right wants to take back control so why did they hand it off | 换个角度 我们的主权 权利想要夺回控制权 所以他们为什么交出它 |
| 1741 | in the first place we have no choice but to engage with Europe we have the same interests | 首先,我们别无选择,只有与欧洲接触,我们有同样的利益 |
| 1742 | and they are our main trading partner so why did we leave the EU and why did we leave our seats at | 他们是我们的主要贸易伙伴 所以我们为什么离开欧盟 为什么留下我们的座位 |
| 1743 | the negotiating table which was once ours we had favorable times and we gave all of that away | 曾经是我们的谈判桌,我们有 美好的时光,我们给了所有这一切 |
| 1744 | what for so that we could have less regulation on private companies it's it's actually insane | 干嘛让我们对私营公司的监管减少 其实是疯了 |
| 1745 | because we have lost sovereignty since then what's the point of leaving the EU and making | 因为我们从那时起就丧失了主权了 离开欧盟和制造 |
| 1746 | a trading agreement with like what was it like India I think it was New Zealand | 和像印度一样的贸易协议 我认为是新西兰 |
| 1747 | they're ages away we're not going to trade with them like it's mental furthermore in the EU we | 他们已经很久了,我们不会跟他们交易 就像在欧盟里,我们是精神上的 |
| 1748 | had a seat at the table as far as foreign policy goes and shared foreign policy interests we don't | 就外交政策而言 我们没有外交政策利益 |
| 1749 | have that anymore we are locked out of those discussions how can we expect to exert influence | 我们不再参与这些讨论 如何影响我们 |
| 1750 | on the global stage when we are attached to the United States our special relationship with the | 我们与美国的特殊关系 |
| 1751 | US is it Stockholm syndrome or romance we have to make a choice because at the moment it's looking | 美国是斯德哥尔摩综合症还是浪漫 我们必须做出选择 因为眼下它正在寻找 |
| 1752 | more like Stockholm syndrome they hold us hostage they control our communications technology they | 更像斯德哥尔摩综合症 他们挟持我们 控制我们的通信技术 |
| 1753 | sold us our military equipment and even things like visa and mastercard are not off limits for | 我们的军械被卖了 甚至签证和硕士卡等物品 |
| 1754 | the US to use as leverage as we have seen the EU is adapting it's making new technologies to push | 正如我们所看到的那样,美国正在利用欧盟的杠杆作用来改造它正在制造新的技术来推动 |
| 1755 | out American influence and if we work together we could contribute but instead we are locked out we | 如果我们一起合作,我们就能有所贡献 但是,我们被锁定在外 |
| 1756 | are reliant on a state which does not care about our interests and we cannot we cannot reclaim our | 依赖一个不关心我们利益的国家 我们不能恢复 |
| 1757 | sovereignty how much time do I have left no more all right in conclusion um yeah I think | 我还有多少时间 已经没有权利了 |
| 1758 | love what Burnham's doing I'm glad that he actually knows what's wrong with the country | 喜欢伯纳姆做的事 我很高兴他知道国家有什么问题 |
| 1759 | but he's just not going far enough like he needs to be more confident like I got told a few hours | 但他只是走的不够远 他需要更加自信 就像我被告知几个小时 |
| 1760 | ago but I have to be up here and I figured it out he can figure it out as well thank you very much | 之前,我必须在这里,我猜到了 他也可以想出,非常感谢 |
| 1761 | I thank Ganya for that very fine speech and last but certainly not the least | 感谢甘雅的精彩演讲 最后但肯定不是最不重要的 |
| 1762 | to close out the case for the opposition I call upon George Christensen | 我恳请乔治·克里斯滕森 |
| 1763 | please come up all right it's fine okay excellent excellent thank you Mr President and uh speaking | 请上来吧 没事的 非常好 谢谢 总统先生 |
| 1764 | last in such an illustrious and eloquent lineup of speakers on the opposition side I find myself | 最后,在如此杰出和雄辩的演讲阵容 在反对派一方,我发现自己 |
| 1765 | rather pressed to identify new arguments that have not been covered and rebuttals to the | 更强烈地要求找出尚未涵盖的新论点,并反驳 |
| 1766 | opposition that have not been very thoroughly exposed so let me expand the scope of this motion | 因此,请允许我扩大这项动议的范围。 |
| 1767 | beyond partisan lines there are a few things in this country that are almost universally accepted | 除了党派之外,这个国家还有几件事几乎被普遍接受 |
| 1768 | complaints about potholes the poor state of the weather and also superiority to Cambridge of | 关于坑洞的抱怨 恶劣的天气状态 也优于剑桥 |
| 1769 | similarly I intend to make a non-partisan appeal it is without doubt that the struggle against | 同样地,我打算发出无党派呼吁,毫无疑问,反对 |
| 1770 | radical populism is the defining challenge of our political age the fearsome advance | 激进的民粹主义是我们政治时代的决定性挑战 可怕的进步 |
| 1771 | of both right and left wing populist parties in the last 10 to 15 years has shaken and transformed | 右翼和左翼民粹主义政党 在过去的10到15年中 动摇和转变 |
| 1772 | western political debate this is why as I have mentioned I recently was a conservative | 西方政治争论,这就是为什么,正如我所提到的,我最近是一个保守派。 |
| 1773 | I speak to you not as a party man but as a moderate a pragmatist and a patriot | 我说话不是作为党人 而是作为一个温和的务实主义者和爱国者 |
| 1774 | you do not have to agree with the vast majority or even many of the specific policies of this | 您无需同意绝大多数甚至许多具体政策 |
| 1775 | government to support the opposition tonight rather I encourage you to recognize that this | 今晚政府支持反对派 我鼓励你承认这一点 |
| 1776 | is a centrist government it has the right values and vision and gets the most important calls | 这是一个中间派的政府 它有正确的价值和远见 并得到了最重要的电话 |
| 1777 | right yates acclaimed line things fall apart the center cannot hold seems a foreboding portent | 右Yates 声名狼藉的线条 中心无法支撑的东西 似乎预示着 |
| 1778 | for the future of British politics the insurgent populist movements are united by a few unpleasant | 为了英国政治的未来 反叛的民粹主义运动 被一些不愉快的 |
| 1779 | qualities a marked weakness on defense especially with regards to Russia's tyrannical regime | 质量是防守的明显弱点,特别是在俄罗斯的专制政权方面 |
| 1780 | a fiscal recklessness that would panic investors and further dampen economic growth although I | 财政上的鲁莽 会使投资者惊慌失措 进一步抑制经济增长 |
| 1781 | might add that under this labor government economic growth in the first half of this year was the | 可能还会说,在这个劳动政府下半年的经济增长是: |
| 1782 | highest in the g7 so much for all of this decline is talk that we hear on the proposition bench | 最高的G7 这么多 这一切下降 是谈话,我们听到 在命题板上 |
| 1783 | and an obsession and the fanaticism and an extremism on both left and right with regards | 执着、狂热、狂妄, |
| 1784 | to immigration when labor is proposing moderate centrist policies for a controlled attitude | 当劳工提出温和的中间政策以控制的态度时, |
| 1785 | towards immigration alongside tolerance towards those who already live here and who will come | 移民与容忍 已经住在这里的人和将要来的人 |
| 1786 | no matter their background their culture or their religion it is my firm belief that labor is | 不管他们的背景如何 他们的文化或宗教 我坚信劳动是 |
| 1787 | currently the party best placed to counter the populist threat to the norms and institutions | 目前是对抗民粹主义对规范和机构的威胁的最佳政党 |
| 1788 | that have governed British political life for decades every government of every philosophy | 几十年来统治着英国政治生活的每个政府 每一个哲学 |
| 1789 | in the modern age is judged on three salient issues is the country secure is the country | 在现代,根据三个突出问题来判断 国家安全就是国家 |
| 1790 | prosperous and of late how does it control its borders defense of the realm is the first duty | 国家如何控制边界 保卫国土是首要任务 |
| 1791 | of any government so let me begin here this government is the latest in a long lineage | 任何政府,所以让我在这里开始 这个政府是最新的 在长的血统 |
| 1792 | that has protected british interests through investment in defense we have committed to | 通过对国防的投资保护了英国的利益 |
| 1793 | spending three and a half percent of gdp on defense by 2035 in line with the nato target | 到2035年时,按照Nato目标,将GDp的3%半用于防御 |
| 1794 | most importantly this government has continued britain's steadfast support for ukraine whose | 最重要的是,政府继续坚定支持 |
| 1795 | is fighting on behalf of liberty across europe uh yes the british military i mean the ideal is | 代表自由而战 横跨欧洲 是的 英国军方 |
| 1796 | that we don't have to use the british military right which is why it's so important to have | 我们不必使用英国的军事权利 这就是为什么有如此重要 |
| 1797 | the deterrence through aiding ukraine and for investing in our defense most importantly as i | 通过帮助乌克赖恩 以及投资我们的防御 |
| 1798 | say it is this aid for ukraine which the populist parties seem to be unable to recognize the | 民粹主义政党似乎无法承认 |
| 1799 | importance of nigel farage's first reaction when russian tanks rolled into ukrainian soil in 2022 | 俄国坦克在2022年进入乌克赖因土壤时 Nigel farage 第一次反应的重要性 |
| 1800 | was to blame nato for provoking it he has repeatedly expressed his admiration for putin | 他一再表示钦佩Putin, |
| 1801 | and his fascist regime in russia the greens are unwilling to commit to our nuclear deterrent | 和他在俄罗斯的法西斯政权 绿种人不愿意致力于我们的核威慑 |
| 1802 | and more than unwilling to commit to it my apologies they want to cancel it and they're | 更不愿意承诺 我道歉 他们想要取消它,他们 |
| 1803 | willing to commit to our membership in nato neither party is able to provide an effective | 双方都无法提供有效的 |
| 1804 | deterrent to secure peace through strength which is what labor is currently doing to migration | 遏制通过力量确保和平,这是劳工目前对移徙所做的 |
| 1805 | an increasingly salient issue in modern political debate legal migration has been significantly | 在现代政治辩论中,一个日益突出的问题就是合法移徙。 |
| 1806 | curtailed under this labor government from the boris wave in 22 and 23 under the conservative | 22年和23年在保守派统治下 被从波里斯浪潮中削减的劳动政府 |
| 1807 | government indeed in 2025 legal migration was just 121 000 down a quarter of a million from its | 事实上,在2025年,政府的合法移徙从25万下降121,000人。 |
| 1808 | peak just three years ago the greens principal policy document commits the party to allowing | 三年前的高峰 绿地主要政策文件承诺 党允许 |
| 1809 | to i quote people to move if they wish to this is a rather conspicuous euphemism for uncontrolled | 我引用人们的话,如果他们愿意的话,这是对无节制的委婉说法。 |
| 1810 | migration on the other extreme reforms policy pledges include replacing permanent residents | 其他极端改革政策承诺的移徙包括取代永久居民 |
| 1811 | with a renewable five-year visa and 600 000 deportations which would entail withdrawal | 持有可续签的五年签证和60万驱逐,这将导致撤销。 |
| 1812 | from major international treaties including the refugee convention and the european court of human | 难民公约和欧洲人权法院 |
| 1813 | rights which is among many other things integral to the good friday agreement and peace in northern | 人权是周五良好协定和北方和平的组成部分。 |
| 1814 | ireland to the economy as i've already stated in the first half of this year britain was the fastest | 正如我在上半年说过的 英国对经济的影响是最快的 |
| 1815 | growing economy in the g7 this government has passed the largest employments rights legislation | 政府通过了最大的就业权利立法 |
| 1816 | of this century and although there is much work still to do we are working towards balancing the | 尽管我们仍有许多工作要做,但我们正在努力平衡本世纪的工作。 |
| 1817 | budget now when you look at the economic proposals of both populist parties reforms unfunded tax | 现在预算,当你看两个民粹主义政党的经济提案 改革没有资金的税收 |
| 1818 | cuts and the greens 170 billion pounds of pledge tax raises both would crash the economy labor | 削减和绿地一千七百亿英镑的认捐税 将消耗经济劳动力 |
| 1819 | is the only party that understands the importance of balancing the books which as the conservatives | 只有一方懂得平衡 书籍的重要性 作为保守派 |
| 1820 | demonstrated in 2022 is a rather important priority we're all familiar moreover with the | 2022年展示的 是一个相当重要的优先事项 我们都熟悉 |
| 1821 | populist's campaign tactics they exploit voters disillusion to provoke resentment and intolerance | 民粹主义者的竞选策略 他们利用选民的失望 挑起不满和不容忍 |
| 1822 | they use inflammatory rhetoric for media coverage and social media clips this government has done | 他们用煽动性言论来报道媒体, |
| 1823 | what the center has failed to do for over a decade it has offered people something stronger | 中心十几年来未能做到的 它为人们提供了更强大的东西 |
| 1824 | than despair and hatred it has offered them hope again it is not just a slogan this is | 这不仅仅是一个口号, |
| 1825 | increasingly representative of the national mood this party is beating the populists | 越来越能代表国民的情绪 这个党正在打败民粹主义者 |
| 1826 | in june in mackinfield a working-class seat that reform had its eyes on this prime minister beat | 在马金菲尔德的June 一个工人阶级的席位 改革有它的眼睛 总理的节奏 |
| 1827 | them by more than 9 000 votes and just one week ago in holborn and some pancreas the green party | 他们以9000多票 一周前在Holborn 和一些胰腺绿党 |
| 1828 | leader zach polanski who was sort of standing to the edge of the stage embarrassed after his | 站在舞台边缘的领袖Zach Polanski 感到尴尬 |
| 1829 | electoral defeat by more than 3 000 votes so i urge you even if you oppose this government's | 因此我敦促你 即使你反对政府 |
| 1830 | particular policies if you oppose it on taxation on welfare and foreign policy you must accept | 如果你反对福利税和外交政策,你必须接受 |
| 1831 | that it stands by the fundamental values that have governed british political discourse | 它坚持指导英国政治言论的基本价值观 |
| 1832 | for decades peace through strength economic credibility and tolerance towards all who live | 数十年来通过增强经济信誉和容忍所有生活在 |
| 1833 | here the populists seek to divide and conquer by appeal to our primal instincts they exploit | 在这里,民粹主义者寻求分裂和征服 通过呼吁我们的原始本能 他们利用 |
| 1834 | discontent to provoke resentment intolerance for their own electoral game by virtue of this | 藉此引起民众不满, |
| 1835 | government's policies and leadership we can hope again that the center can hold it is in this spirit | 政府的政策和领导力,我们再次希望,中心能够坚持这种精神。 |
| 1836 | that i urge all of you to vote against the motion tonight thank you very much george for what was an | 我敦促你们今晚投票反对动议 非常感谢George |
| 1837 | excellent speech and can we once again ask for a round of applause for all of our guest speakers | 精彩的演讲,我们能再次请大家鼓掌吗? |
| 1838 | who put up an amazing show tonight | 今晚他办了一场精彩的演出 |
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